buzzpaff
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September 7th, 2012 at 9:12:54 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

That was set up before they started asking for our opinions.

Remember that they also purchased that booth space before they knew what the house edge was.




This is what you see when you are viewing info at the G2E website. Thay have access to change that NOW !
buzzpaff
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September 8th, 2012 at 8:26:05 PM permalink
Hey Doubleluck, look up here.
buzzpaff
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September 8th, 2012 at 9:02:43 PM permalink
I sent doubleluck a PM chastising him for being here instead of working on G2E. He promptly left. Hopefully i will not have to rat him out to his brother.
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December 3rd, 2012 at 5:37:44 PM permalink
The Riverboat seems to have left the dock for uncharted waters. The website no longer any contact info and the Linkedin company
profile no longer lists any products. Seems a shame. I met the brothers at G2E and they seemed like straight shooters.

But they were in over their heads. Getting any sort of game into a casino or the interest of a distributor is a tuff, tuff game.
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DJTeddyBear
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December 3rd, 2012 at 9:46:12 PM permalink
They redesigned the website. It DOES have contact info. A form, phone number and address are on the contact page.

For the record, they are one of the featured exhibitors at the Raving Table Game Conference this week.
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May 20th, 2013 at 2:25:59 PM permalink
Only chance of making this work is to use the french roulette number system, a double zero wheel has no chance of getting any traction. Good luck though
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charliepatrick
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September 26th, 2013 at 1:48:51 PM permalink
The game is now being trialled and I saw the wheel in Salford last weekend - sadly it was Sunday afternoon so the table wasn't actually open (there was a United-City match distracting everybody!). Thus I didn't see how much of an issue odds such as 7/5 or 8/5 would be in practice. While watching five goals on TV, I worked out that offering 6/4 2/1 and 5/2 (albeit 2/1 has no house edge) would have been so much easier (cf simple Craps), so suspect different neighbourhood sizes might work easier.
Buzzard
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September 26th, 2013 at 2:43:46 PM permalink
This from the Luck Brothers

Kevin Luck <e8kluck@yahoo.com>

3:20 PM (21 minutes ago)

to me
We have a version where there are 8 color neighborhoods that all pay 2:1. However, that means even MORE colors and an even MORE crowded felt .....however, we're not opposed to giving the house / players what they want.
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doubleluck
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September 26th, 2013 at 3:40:33 PM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

While watching five goals on TV, I worked out that offering 6/4 2/1 and 5/2 (albeit 2/1 has no house edge) would have been so much easier (cf simple Craps), so suspect different neighbourhood sizes might work easier.



Buzz emailed me to let me know there has been some more activity on this thread so I thought I'd respond directly. We have SEVERAL variations of the game with varying sizes of neighborhoods, payouts, etc. It appears that the payouts you worked-out are coming solely from a dealer's perspective 1.5 to 1; 2 to 1; and 2.5 to 1. While these may be cleaner for the dealer, the house edge on that version would be far too low. As a result, we don't believe that would be an attractive enough edge for the house. Of all the variations we have, we felt the version being trialed now best considers all parties involved.
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September 27th, 2013 at 4:41:58 AM permalink
Quote: doubleluck

...payouts...1.5 to 1; 2 to 1; and 2.5 to 1..house edge...far too low...

Thanks for your quick feedback. Yes I agree that the house edge would be far too low, which was a shame as it was such a neat paytable. I can also see that having eight sets of three slots, each paying 2 to 1, is an alternative option but has lots of colours and a higher HE (unless you use 7 losers), so the one you picked is probably the best (also casinos have 20p chips if they allow £1 minimums).

btw Gala used to have Dice Magic (see http://www.ukcasinotablegames.info/dicemagic.html ) which was simple Craps for the weekends and had some bets (e.g. 4 pays 2/1) at zero HE and a low maximum (£25); even so it had limited appeal. But on a roulette layout, I agree with you, and can't imagine a house allowing reasonable sized bets at 0HE.

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