AxelWolf
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January 3rd, 2014 at 3:09:05 PM permalink
Quote: Perdition

I guess there was an AP named "Johnny Chung" that claimed to make 80-130k a year on quarter VP only. I guess this was in the 90s. Does that sound right or do you think he was embellishing?

He is legit, slightly over exaggerated for only .25 (normal plays) but that's not his real name. He found some of the stuff I mentioned people don't like to talk about.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
tournamentking
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January 17th, 2014 at 1:55:08 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

He's never proven, nor will he ever, that any of those wins are his.



Did some research on this subject. I can't see where ANYBODY who claims to be a big winner, including myself to a lesser extent and everyone here from all that I've read, has proven anything in any way. This guy singer, he used to write for some weekly I sometimes read, and at times it seemed to have pictures or info about lots of big hits. So are you saying he did and does what our friend Axel does and has other people play for him so he can take credit for the wins? I don't get the distinction. Why single him out? I admit seeing that pretty $50000 winner makes me feel envious. But come on man.
Ibeatyouraces
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January 17th, 2014 at 6:06:28 AM permalink
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mickeycrimm
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January 17th, 2014 at 8:30:01 AM permalink
Quote: tournamentking

Did some research on this subject. I can't see where ANYBODY who claims to be a big winner, including myself to a lesser extent and everyone here from all that I've read, has proven anything in any way. This guy singer, he used to write for some weekly I sometimes read, and at times it seemed to have pictures or info about lots of big hits. So are you saying he did and does what our friend Axel does and has other people play for him so he can take credit for the wins? I don't get the distinction. Why single him out? I admit seeing that pretty $50000 winner makes me feel envious. But come on man.



TK, as hard as it will be for you, try to understand that Rob Singer, AKA Rob Argentino, AKA Blob Dinger, does not give a rat's ass about video poker strategy. It's just his pretext for trolling people in the internet gambling forums. He is a sick person, TK. He's a malignant narcissist. He is a self loather and the only thing that makes him feel good is bringing other people down to his level. He has been banned. I'll say it again, BANNED. Get it, TK? BANNED from every gambling forum he has been on, vpFREE, Las Vegas Advisor forums, videopoker.com forums, Vegasrex forums, Wizard of Vegas forums.

But I have to tell you this funny story about Blob Dinger, er, Rob Singer. Several years ago, on FREEvpFREE, Rob created another account under the username of Acesup. So now he had two personnas on the forum. He had the persona of Rob Singer in one account, and the persona of Acesup in the other account. Acesup was singing the praises of Singer's gambling system. And Singer is patting Acesup on the back for doing such a good job. Robbie boy didn't have any of us fooled.

So one day Rob got the two accounts tangled up and posted as Rob Singer under the Acesup user name. We all died laughing at the imbecile. Of course, when he found out what he did, he made every excuse in the book for it. But it was too late. I'm still LMAO about it.
"Quit trying your luck and start trying your skill." Mickey Crimm
Ibeatyouraces
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January 17th, 2014 at 8:32:45 AM permalink
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AxelWolf
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January 17th, 2014 at 9:32:59 AM permalink
TK you are turning into a Bob Jr. I'm not just referring to this particular post, but a others.

You are the one that originally claimed anything can be faked when I offered up W2G's and casino reports of large jackpots and yearly winnings. Now you are upset we are saying that about RS. FYI A Jackpot means nothing, especially if you are playing $25 machines, $50k is not hard to hit. I told you before, I have hit for over 100k on a 3-coin $1 slot machine, that proves nothing.

Before camera phones, casinos offered to take pic of you and your jackpots. I normally declined as most AP's did, we wanted as little attention as we could get. It was almost embarrassing at times, there were also safety issues. Now even with camera phones, it's not something I normally care about or even think of. I want to play JP's off as fast as possible and get out of the casino. Its not something I would like to flash around on the internet anyways. Other AP's are smart and will quickly figure out where and what you are doing. Also, I know AP's that have been followed and robed at gun point in there house. I have to think of both me and my GF she already stands out. Casino Eyebrows were raised Just the other day, she was told she didn't look like the kind of person who would be playing in that particular casino.

The problem is, RS uses some "SYSTEM" that dose NOT use any real math, his "SYSTEM" goes against the the grain of 95% of most accredited gambling experts, and the, average day to day AP's. His "System uses some voodoo, guessing and martingale type crapola, that changes at his convenience, in order to fit whatever story he is hawking at the time. He is more of a conspiracy theorist than an AP, Anyone with a brain can see that. Unfortunately and fortunately, for some reason there are, and always will be people that want to believe. People are crazy, Heck..... there are people that don't believe we landed on the moon, people believe in big foot, the list goes on.

Once you make claims of a winning system and start touting it, in hopes of selling books, hawking your system, advancing your career and gaining popularity. intelligent, logical People want some good evidence. Usually solid math will do, case closed and everyone moves on.

RS has been in the public eye for a long time, I'm sure he's a skilled writer and knows many things about LV. More power to him he found a niche. if he can convince others he has a system, and people fall for it, I bow to him, just like I bow to the guys selling dice control classes.

He has been offered, time and time again to prove his system works or show documentation he is winning, with tax forms/returns etc, yet the only thing he can provide is a few pic's, once in a wile. If he wants to prove his system works so much, why not film or get a independent witness? Why didn't he pose with his 50K jackpot considering he seems so hell bent on proving his cockamamie system? He is already in the public eye and has been in videos so their cant be any issues with that. This system he claims to have, should have made him more money then God, 50K would be an insignificant amount. This system he claims works should work in most casinos on a large percentage of machines, 24/7 365. Most REAL AP's are not making such claims. Yes many AP's have been on some incredible stuff. Some make a steady income, some are fifthly rich. tho's guy's don't make claims of having this ongoing fail safe system that works indefinitely like RS. Ones who do, WONT TALK ABOUT IT.

TK, what kind of proof do you want? What do you want proof of? Let me know, make it worth my time and put your money where your mouth is.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
tournamentking
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January 17th, 2014 at 3:42:09 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I've posted these before, but here is some of my proof of big hits. Sure they're not single $50,000 wins, but they ARE mine. Also, I don't proclaim to have beaten a -EV game nor will I continue to. I got lucky as hell, period. As for Singer, I don't care or obsess over him. I'm primarily a table games player anyway.



I'll be nice about those: congratulations! But I guarantee you, if I had put up my $80k+ tax slip from a few years back, Axel and a few others would be saying the same stupid things they're saying about that $50k RS hit, that "how do we know it's his, how do we know he played with his money", on and on childish crap. And sorry, but that spells jealous. No one but axel and Crimm are obsessed over rs. My only obsession is how a simple quad can be worth so much. It also keeps drawing lengthy posts from Crimm that have all the markings of being drawn from the bottom of another bottle.
mickeycrimm
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January 17th, 2014 at 4:10:58 PM permalink
Quote: tournamentking[/q

I'll be nice about those: congratulations! But I guarantee you, if I had put up my $80k+ tax slip from a few years back, Axel and a few others would be saying the same stupid things they're saying about that $50k RS hit, that "how do we know it's his, how do we know he played with his money", on and on childish crap. And sorry, but that spells jealous. No one but axel and Crimm are obsessed over rs. My only obsession is how a simple quad can be worth so much. It also keeps drawing lengthy posts from Crimm that have all the markings of being drawn from the bottom of another bottle.



TK, I'm not obsessed over Singer. I have his emails blocked and I quit exchanging with Rob in the forums a long time ago. I don't want anything to do with him. I think YOU are the one who is obsessed with him. I don't care whether Rob hit a jackpot or not. Your accusation that I'm jealous is just another false premise. And the jackpot proves nothing about his system. But why don't you go over to the Alanbestbuys forum and ask Rob to send you or Alan a picture of the W2G so you can show it off over here.

Another thing, TK. Your inability to make heads or tails of the numbers on the screen in the Huck Seed jackpot picture told me everything I need to know about your gambling prowess. And sorry. I wasn't drunk when I made the post to you this morning....and I'm not drunk now. Another false premise by you.
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AxelWolf
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January 17th, 2014 at 5:41:28 PM permalink
Quote: tournamentking


I'll be nice about those: congratulations! But I guarantee you, if I had put up my $80k+ tax slip from a few years back, Axel and a few others would be saying the same stupid things they're saying about that $50k RS hit, that "how do we know it's his, how do we know he played with his money", on and on childish crap. And sorry, but that spells jealous. No one but axel and Crimm are obsessed over rs. My only obsession is how a simple quad can be worth so much. It also keeps drawing lengthy posts from Crimm that have all the markings of being drawn from the bottom of another bottle.

I better get this out now, since I doubt I will have much time tomorrow.

Post it up your JP. It is meaningless even if you did hit it (I will take it on faith you did hit a big jackpot, I think this has led you to an obsession with ALL slots) dose not make someone a REAL AP, they might just be a lucky SOB.

If you post it up, your JP, with an explanation, when, where and why you had an advantage then things would be different. Try including some math on the situation, I will even take estimated math. Because, I play some things I don't know the exact math, I just know dam well its a good play, and I can explain why.
IE. Someone posted up a pay schedule from some online casino VP game the other day. I didn't have to use a computer or get out a calculator to know dam well it was over 115%, worth a risk free (other then the fact that it was online) couple of hundred per hr. just on a .25 Machine. If I seen something like this in a casino I would jump on it no questions asked(other then, when will it get shut down, and how long can I play).

I am not obsessed with RS, you or others keep bringing him up. I kinda feel sorry for you or anyone that believes in his mumbo jumbo even tho it's in my best interest people like you do. One problem people have with RS.,Is he has been called out for making fake accounts and altering facts in order to make his system and himself look good.Also He has been banned from many gambling sites. You keep on calling out me and Micky for trying to debunk him. Many gaming experts have called him to task, he avoids showing any real challenges by having un-reasonable terms. There are a few other forums around where people call RS a complete idiot and question everything about him and his honesty. http://forum.videopoker.com/forum/printer_friendly_posts.asp?TID=403http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/video-poker/4949-the-rob-singer-challenge/ http://www.amazon.com/Undeniable-Truth-About-Video-Poker/dp/089650977X http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=36&threadid=240053&STARTPAGE=6


I still ask you, why RS dose't just make a Video and prove his claims?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
tournamentking
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January 17th, 2014 at 5:54:50 PM permalink
You never read straight axel. I've continually said how it's that odd hand that paid so much that amazes me, not you or RS or Crimm or anybody else. To me you're no different than RS or Crimm. You all claim to win but you all have deep faults within those claims. So we're left with you and Crimm feeling an overwhelming need to keep discrediting he who is not your friend. As I said, that smacks of jealousy. He's not even here for goodness sakes. I'm a successful ap whether you like it or not. The fact that I keep a lot of what I do to myself should come as a breath of fresh air to someone who criticizes Dancer for talking out of both sides of his mouth.

You need to get married and have kids. Find something and someone else to engage your conflict.

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