tournamentking
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January 2nd, 2014 at 6:22:44 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I would hate to go back and quote what you said about, VP and VP AP's.

Stick to slots or Rob Singer VP is for losers



I'm trying to learn what you guys already know. Opinions vary and can change. Give me a chance. I get that you don't like him, why is RS for losers? I used to occasionally read a column he wrote in a paper who's name escapes me at the moment, for years it seems. Besides, he has one of the largest vp hand wins posted anywhere. If he's for losers I want some of that.
Twirdman
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January 2nd, 2014 at 6:39:51 AM permalink
Quote: tournamentking

I'm trying to learn what you guys already know. Opinions vary and can change. Give me a chance. I get that you don't like him, why is RS for losers? I used to occasionally read a column he wrote in a paper who's name escapes me at the moment, for years it seems. Besides, he has one of the largest vp hand wins posted anywhere. If he's for losers I want some of that.



Getting lucky on a high bet hand does not make one a good professional gambler. I mean if thats all it takes you should just try and talk to a lottery winner they have far bigger wins.

The issue is if someone is not playing consistently with an advantage they will lose over the long run. Yeah they may win some monster hands in the journey there but ultimately they will lose. I mean what would you prefer to do win a 100,000 VP hand and still end up losing 50k for the year or have your biggest win only 5000 but win 50k over the year.
Ibeatyouraces
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January 2nd, 2014 at 6:55:39 AM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
AxelWolf
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January 2nd, 2014 at 7:00:20 AM permalink
Quote: tournamentking

I'm trying to learn what you guys already know. Opinions vary and can change. Give me a chance. I get that you don't like him, why is RS for losers? I used to occasionally read a column he wrote in a paper who's name escapes me at the moment, for years it seems. Besides, he has one of the largest vp hand wins posted anywhere. If he's for losers I want some of that.

I'm still looking for that apology from you to AP's because of your bashing of VP AP's

I DON'T DISLIKE ROB SINGER. I DON'T DISLIKE ROB SINGER. his system is bunk, HIS SYSTEM IS BUNK. So I don't like his system. I am sure he is a nice guy. Where are all the RS fans, that used his system and won? You cant learn his system, because it is based on gut feeling and he cant even describe his system, its always changing. I hear RS will show you his system for free, why don't you put up your money and go with him? If I really thought someone had a system like his, that worked, I would be knocking down his door, with a fist full of money.

I can show you bigger Jackpots then he has. That's meaningless it proves nothing. If you bet high enough you will hit big jackpots this dose not mean you are winning.

Put up enough money and ill take a challenge that i will get 100k in tax-forms and take pictures in less then 6 hrs. I recently found a play and had a member of this forum play it for us . He earned over 40k in tax-forms in 8 hrs

Don't you get it? 95% of people who are authorities or real AP's disagree with ROB'S system. Why dose that not mean anything to you?

Not everyone wants to post up everything they hit, Most real AP's are trying to hide what machines they are playing, not rub it in the casinos face.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
gpac1377
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January 2nd, 2014 at 7:12:06 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I am sure he is a nice guy.


(He's not a nice guy.)
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mickeycrimm
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January 3rd, 2014 at 1:00:03 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I have never read any VP books. When I started I heard Dan Paymar had some good books. They may be a bit outdated now. Most people go for Bob dancers book now days. Some people refuse to buy his books because he works with casinos.



I started out reading Lenny Frome articles about video poker in the early nineties. He was published in Cardplayer and Gaming Today. In 1996, after I made some money on the advantage slots, I decided I needed to diversify my portfolio. I went to Gambler's General Store and found Paymar's "Precision Play" and "The Best of Video Poker Times." Paymar had a monthly newsletter called "Video Poker Times." He had a video poker writer named Doug Reul who I eventually became friends with, the best machine pro I've ever met personally.

The great thing about these two guys was they were teaching quarter video poker players how to make dollar money. With games like Stand Alone Flush Attack and Jackpot Card where we were getting 4% and 5% edges on quarters. But those games are extinct today. Paymar updated "Precision Play" to "Video Poker Optimum Play." Even if some of the games are extinct his book is still a great primer on video poker.
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AxelWolf
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January 3rd, 2014 at 2:02:30 PM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

I started out reading Lenny Frome articles about video poker in the early nineties. He was published in Cardplayer and Gaming Today. In 1996, after I made some money on the advantage slots, I decided I needed to diversify my portfolio. I went to Gambler's General Store and found Paymar's "Precision Play" and "The Best of Video Poker Times." Paymar had a monthly newsletter called "Video Poker Times." He had a video poker writer named Doug Reul who I eventually became friends with, the best machine pro I've ever met personally.

The great thing about these two guys was they were teaching quarter video poker players how to make dollar money. With games like Stand Alone Flush Attack and Jackpot Card where we were getting 4% and 5% edges on quarters. But those games are extinct today. Paymar updated "Precision Play" to "Video Poker Optimum Play." Even if some of the games are extinct his book is still a great primer on video poker.

I think Dan had the first article on Flush Attack in card player. I read it after I started playing. A few guys told me they thought FT was good but were not 100% positive if not for that artical they may not be as successful as they are now.

Ya Doug was a relentless animal, always firing on 2 machines. He was on some amazing stuff, including things people don't like to talk about.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Beethoven9th
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January 3rd, 2014 at 2:04:47 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I'm still looking for that apology from you to AP's because of your bashing of VP AP's


TK is entering gr8player/varmenti territory. :)
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AxelWolf
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January 3rd, 2014 at 2:06:59 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

TK is entering gr8player/varmenti territory. :)

Well it is Friday
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Perdition
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January 3rd, 2014 at 2:13:24 PM permalink
I guess there was an AP named "Johnny Chung" that claimed to make 80-130k a year on quarter VP only. I guess this was in the 90s. Does that sound right or do you think he was embellishing?

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