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MaxPen
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November 6th, 2019 at 1:04:34 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

We're number 1! We're number 1!
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You can interpret that many ways. I shall refrain from explaining due to not wanting to have my comments misunderstood as an insult to leadership.

Edit to add:

Nathan's Corner was #1 longer. You have a long way to go filling in those shoes. Or should I say bus seat😃🤣
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November 6th, 2019 at 1:05:44 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

And by beaten I mean consistent lifetime winning over many sessions.

Whenever the baccarat guys are confronted with the math they admit it's a negative game over a lifetime IF you were sitting there flat betting continually for a longtime. They want us to believe they can outplay the math with some cockamamie betting system that usually consists of pretending it's not all just one big long session especially if you vary your bets. They think they just need lots of winning sessions to generate a profit long term and somehow everything will be ok as long as you don't play too long in one session.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 6th, 2019 at 1:43:02 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

When you say “his view”, are you referring to the claim that baccarat can be beaten with strategies like hit and run , and varying your bet size ? And by beaten I mean consistent lifetime winning over many sessions.



MDawg's claims that baccarat can be beaten are only like 20% of what he posts. The rest is legitimate trip reporting. In fact, I don't think he's even mentioned his "system" at all in this thread.
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November 6th, 2019 at 1:49:16 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

MDawg's claims that baccarat can be beaten are only like 20% of what he posts. The rest is legitimate trip reporting. In fact, I don't think he's even mentioned his "system" at all in this thread.



He has stated several times in other threads that his method for avoiding the baccarat house edge involves “hit and run sessions, quitting while ahead”.. and varying bet size.
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November 6th, 2019 at 1:51:51 PM permalink
For tax purposes it's best to finish your gambling session at even or ahead. Losing may involve deep pockets.
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November 6th, 2019 at 2:18:09 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

He has stated several times in other threads that his method for avoiding the baccarat house edge involves “hit and run sessions, quitting while ahead”.. and varying bet size.



I know. And that's only part of what he talks about. The rest is legitimate trip reporting.
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November 6th, 2019 at 3:28:37 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

The rest is legitimate trip reporting.

That's what some people thought about B79's BS. Someone even lost a few hundred bucks over it(As it turns out... that was the best day of their life. 😄)

Legitimate to you and I might mean different things.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 6th, 2019 at 4:17:21 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

I know. And that's only part of what he talks about. The rest is legitimate trip reporting.



When the entire basis for the trip reports and what’s included in them , is winnings that are from a mathematically unsound method, then how much “legitimacy” can be assumed from anything that person says ?
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November 6th, 2019 at 5:24:22 PM permalink
Quote: Mdawg

I didn't mean that you'll get all of the theoretical loss in comps,

But that's exactly what you said..."two grand in comps earned just like that...", which is 100% of the theoretical loss on $200,000 in bacc play.


Quote: Mdawg

but the % is much higher than 15%. 15% against actual loss, against theoretical is much higher %.

No that's not the case. The comp rate for most play in the casino is 30ish% of the player's theo. For VP and bacc it's notoriously LESS than that. A 15% comp rate on bacc theo is about right, even for $500 a hand play.

Your trip report is quite enjoyable, but again, the numbers don't really add up.
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November 6th, 2019 at 5:41:25 PM permalink
Quote: UP84



Your trip report is quite enjoyable, but again, the numbers don't really add up.



Really? Say it isn't so.😂

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