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November 8th, 2019 at 8:49:45 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I call 'em as I see 'em. And I don't think it's bullying to call out belittling trash talk against other members. His previous insults were directed at posts people had made, but these are directed at people he doesn't like, themselves. That's where I've drawn the line many times. And I'm drawing it there this time, too.


I donít disagree with a word you wrote, BUT what got us to this point, is the non stop snarky comments, that I and others recognize as ďsoftĒ bullying, which eventually leads to what we have here.
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November 8th, 2019 at 8:59:46 AM permalink
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I donít disagree with a word you wrote, BUT what got us to this point, is the non stop snarky comments, that I and others recognize as ďsoftĒ bullying, which eventually leads to what we have here.



I stand with BBB. I have tried to politely interact with MD and his responses have been less than polite. The other members have called out his outrageous claims as..... outrageous claims! If you want to call that bullying we can agree to disagree......

As is often the case, the suspension meted out by BBB is due to the sum of many posts, not any single one.
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November 8th, 2019 at 9:08:26 AM permalink
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The other members have called out his outrageous claims as..... outrageous claims! If you want to call that bullying we can agree to disagree......


You note outrageous claim. Possibly. Have you seen him play? Does the Martingale, for example never work? Have you blocked him? Disagreement is not bullying, continuing snarky comments are. My point is that, for example, we suspend Axel, for these two weeks, we might in the future reduce the bullying.

My point is that behavior modification is due for semi professional posters on this board.
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November 8th, 2019 at 9:46:08 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

I donít disagree with a word you wrote, BUT what got us to this point, is the non stop snarky comments, that I and others recognize as ďsoftĒ bullying, which eventually leads to what we have here.



I can't disagree with anything you wrote here, either. More of a "mean girls" culture than "bullying", but pervasive and cringe-worthy overall.

I'm in favor of him taking us along for the ride, whether fact or fiction, but for me, the conflict comes when he credits his success to a gambling system that is patently unsound. It just feeds the susceptible non-math-based fantasies of the GenPop, which we are supposed to be educating.

He takes it a step further by ignoring any factual rebuttal, and advising other posters in blog comments and baccarat threads to apply his Gambler's Fallacies, and draws disparagement from people who have given up on refuting his claims, but who still are addressing his posts, not him, now in a derogatory fashion.

He then gets defensive, still mistaking variance for viability, and mistaking debunking substance for resentment or envy, and makes it personal by addressing individual detractors of his system in belittling and condescending descriptors, bragging about blocking the naysayers, all the rest.

This is where I step in.

He did not understand the difference last time. He likely won't understand it this time, though I keep trying to explain.

How many times have we seen this downward spiral from system players? 20? 30? 100? Some politely persist, some blow up, most either leave or learn. But it seems to need to play itself out every time.
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November 8th, 2019 at 10:11:46 AM permalink
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November 8th, 2019 at 10:25:52 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

You note outrageous claim. Possibly. Have you seen him play? Does the Martingale, for example never work? Have you blocked him? Disagreement is not bullying, continuing snarky comments are. My point is that, for example, we suspend Axel, for these two weeks, we might in the future reduce the bullying.

My point is that behavior modification is due for semi professional posters on this board.
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He has said that itís a fact that varying bet size cancels out the effects of the house edge.

He has also said that if gamblers would just walk away from sessions while ahead at -EV games, casinos would immediately go bankrupt.

He has also said that knowing when banker or player is due based on the prior pattern is the basis to his lifetime of consistent winning.

If people like that were welcomed to the board and encouraged to continue posting their nonsense, and were immune to being called out on their b.s. , then what would the purpose of the board be? Itís a forum thatís connected to a web site meant to educate and make people smarter bettors. If someone new joined the forum, who was interested in playing baccarat, and they see this guys incorrect theories being posted without rebuke , who does that help ?

If it makes him feel better to post mathematically unsound ideas as facts and block anyone who says otherwise , then let him do it at another board. Maybe in the next two weeks heíll find a place for it.
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November 8th, 2019 at 10:34:38 AM permalink
Casinos probably would go bankrupt if anytime someone was ahead they'd quit. I don't know how likely you are to ever be ahead, but I think there's a pretty good chance at some point you'll be ahead. if that person quits forever, they aren't going to expose themselves to the house edge anymore because they won't play anymore. It's tough for a casino to keep the lights on if people aren't playing.

Is MDawg permabanned yet? Or can we still not insult him yet?
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November 8th, 2019 at 10:40:33 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

what got us to this point, is the non stop snarky comments, that I and others recognize as ďsoftĒ bullying, which eventually leads to what we have here.

I have to also respectfully disagree. I have reread this thread, and with the possible exception of PG's 'friends' comment and Axel's response, I didn't find any snark. Perhaps you and I see snark differently.

But IMHO, what got us to this point was the hostility in the OP's posts. I'd invite you to read his response to the first comment about his trip back on Page 1. I found this to be insulting not only to the commenter, but to the forum as a whole.

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My point is that behavior modification is due for semi professional posters on this board.

Perhaps. I'll agree with you that this place can occasionally get a little "clique-y," but I don't think that was the issue in this particular case.
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November 8th, 2019 at 11:22:24 AM permalink
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He has said that itís a fact that varying bet size cancels out the effects of the house edge.

He has also said that if gamblers would just walk away from sessions while ahead at -EV games, casinos would immediately go bankrupt.

He has also said that knowing when banker or player is due based on the prior pattern is the basis to his lifetime of consistent winning.

If people like that were welcomed to the board and encouraged to continue posting their nonsense, and were immune to being called out on their b.s. , then what would the purpose of the board be? Itís a forum thatís connected to a web site meant to educate and make people smarter bettors. If someone new joined the forum, who was interested in playing baccarat, and they see this guys incorrect theories being posted without rebuke , who does that help ?

If it makes him feel better to post mathematically unsound ideas as facts and block anyone who says otherwise , then let him do it at another board. Maybe in the next two weeks heíll find a place for it.





This is an excellent post! Well said.
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November 8th, 2019 at 11:39:29 AM permalink
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Who says bullying doesnít work? It just did. Maybe if the bullyís would share the two week suspension, the bullying on this site might lessen.

He has all the... so called bullies blocked, so how could it have worked?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 8th, 2019 at 11:43:08 AM permalink
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Maybe in the next two weeks heíll find a place for it.

I think it's called Twitter.
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November 8th, 2019 at 12:32:10 PM permalink
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I think it's called Twitter.




Uh oh, I just logged in and first thing I saw was the dreaded brown ink. lol Poor guy, I thought he was harmless.

Anyway, just fyi, Twitter is banning all kinds of folks. Especially if you lean to the Right. Or maybe I'm wrong, maybe that's youtube. I dunno, I can't keep up. I still miss Alex Jones. Hey that would be cool if he was a member here. He and Babs would hit it off great.
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November 8th, 2019 at 1:24:59 PM permalink
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Uh oh, I just logged in and first thing I saw was the dreaded brown ink. lol Poor guy, I thought he was harmless.

Anyway, just fyi, Twitter is banning all kinds of folks. Especially if you lean to the Right. Or maybe I'm wrong, maybe that's youtube. I dunno, I can't keep up. I still miss Alex Jones. Hey that would be cool if he was a member here. He and Babs would hit it off great.



I find myself leaning more and more to the right.

however I have ascribed that to a limp caused by my Gouty left leg
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November 8th, 2019 at 1:29:51 PM permalink
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I find myself leaning more and more to the right.

however I have ascribed that to a limp caused by my Gouty left leg



Do you prefer the left or right side of the bus? Front or back? Window or aisle?
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November 8th, 2019 at 2:29:55 PM permalink
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Do you prefer the left or right side of the bus? Front or back? Window or aisle?



right, front, window.

one of my most powerful AP moves - allows me to see the casino before I arrive so I can gauge how powerful the Baccarat tables are

EDIT: that's a joke for those who cant tell
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November 8th, 2019 at 2:58:59 PM permalink
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right, front, window.

one of my most powerful AP moves - allows me to see the casino before I arrive so I can gauge how powerful the Baccarat tables are

EDIT: that's a joke for those who cant tell

Replace Baccarat tables with roulette tables and it's no longer a joke.

See Dark's roulette system inquiries way back when.

Also see his super duper bonus round perdiciabilliy claims.
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November 8th, 2019 at 3:56:21 PM permalink
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Replace Baccarat tables with roulette tables and it's no longer a joke.

See Dark's roulette system inquiries way back when.

Also see his super duper bonus round perdiciabilliy claims.



inquiries are inquiries. I never claimed a winning roulette system.

As for bonus round predictions I always stated that it did not overcome the house edge for various reasons.

My AP is strictly based on realistic methods.

NOW I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT ME DISCUSSING THEM HERE TO PROVE A POINT AND EXPOSE MULTICARD PLAYS, DO YOU?
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November 8th, 2019 at 4:44:45 PM permalink
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inquiries are inquiries. I never claimed a winning roulette system.

As for bonus round predictions I always stated that it did not overcome the house edge for various reasons.

My AP is strictly based on realistic methods.

NOW I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT ME DISCUSSING THEM HERE TO PROVE A POINT AND EXPOSE MULTICARD PLAYS, DO YOU?

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And I would like to say that it's much harder breaking into Hollywood than it is winning Roulette. At least for me, it has.

But, I'll keep plugging away at both.

Are you still plugging away at cracking roulette?
Are you still convinced you can predict when non accumulating(something part of the design such as Scarabs) slots bonus rounds are coming?

If you are looking for an excuse to expose stuff and get some attention with someone to blame that's on you. Would that be cutting off your nose to spite MY face? For the record, I have never suggested you don't play with an advantage using a solid method. I'm certain you do have a significant advantage and make money using your method. I don't even think others have disputed that.

I think the fact that you claim you're the most for your AP on the other coast (Whatever that's actually supposed to mean) I think you intentionally use the word feared since that's a bit subjective and you can claim it means just about anything. Of course, we all know what most everyone would interpret that Into being the best. It's carefully chosen word so you can actually imply that and yet you can claim you never implied that but it was others who did.

I also think the ease and amounts that you insinuate you are making seem much greater than the reality of the situation. If you're making three, four or five hundred thousand + a year I highly suggest you just keep making it if not encourage competition, especially since it's doubtful you're doing something extra special many others can't figure out and are not currently doing. If it's as good as you say and the more you keep adjusting that eventually if it's true you'll be faced with a much bigger more organized team that'll come in and rape it silly hurting the casinos bottom lines significantly forcing them all to change things.
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November 8th, 2019 at 5:15:58 PM permalink
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Are you still plugging away at cracking roulette?
Are you still convinced you can predict when non accumulating(something part of the design such as Scarabs) slots bonus rounds are coming?

If you are looking for an excuse to expose stuff and get some attention with someone to blame that's on you. Would that be cutting off your nose to spite MY face? For the record, I have never suggested you don't play with an advantage using a solid method. I'm certain you do have a significant advantage and make money using your method. I don't even think others have disputed that.

I think the fact that you claim you're the most for your AP on the other coast (Whatever that's actually supposed to mean) I think you intentionally use the word feared since that's a bit subjective and you can claim it means just about anything. Of course, we all know what most everyone would interpret that Into being the best. It's carefully chosen word so you can actually imply that and yet you can claim you never implied that but it was others who did.

I also think the ease and amounts that you insinuate you are making seem much greater than the reality of the situation. If you're making three, four or five hundred thousand + a year I highly suggest you just keep making it if not encourage competition, especially since it's doubtful you're doing something extra special many others can't figure out and are not currently doing. If it's as good as you say and the more you keep adjusting that eventually if it's true you'll be faced with a much bigger more organized team that'll come in and rape it silly hurting the casinos bottom lines significantly forcing them all to change things.



Do you really keep records of quotes from other members, lol?

I pretty certain I meant "beat casinos" than "win at roulette" However I did go through a period where I used red/black at roulette to generate comps so that is probably where the mispoken intent came from.

I chose the word "feared" because casinos on the East Coast have been discussing me and my play, and attributing a few correct but mostly incorrect data on me. I am privy to much of this internal communications because of discovery in court.

If a group of casinos has you that much in their sights then they fear you, at least for the financial harm I can do to them (all legal under the law which makes them fear me even more)

You imply I am being sneaky with my choice of words but that is your reading into it a boast I didnt make. I never claimed to be the best or even most successful. What I claimed was right on the button of what I meant
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November 8th, 2019 at 5:56:17 PM permalink
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Are you still convinced you can predict when non accumulating(something part of the design such as Scarabs) slots bonus rounds are coming?




Ooh, I wanna piece of this action.
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November 8th, 2019 at 6:18:10 PM permalink
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Ooh, I wanna piece of this action.



slot machines are somewhat predictable with bonus rounds.

Axel seems to think I am claiming that I know on the very next spin its going to be a bonus round.

a gross misinterpretation of what I am saying.

I have also observed it works mostly if not entirely on class II machines.

It also does not overcome house edge.
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November 8th, 2019 at 7:37:38 PM permalink
Guys.

Just because MDawg is in red doesn't mean you can hijack his thread. Go challenge (and respond) in one of darkoz's threads if you've got more to say.
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November 8th, 2019 at 11:22:41 PM permalink
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Guys.

Just because MDawg is in red doesn't mean you can hijack his thread. Go challenge (and respond) in one of darkoz's threads if you've got more to say.




Sorry 'bout that.
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November 10th, 2019 at 7:08:07 PM permalink
Looks like my Vegas photos! lol
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November 10th, 2019 at 10:07:01 PM permalink
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Looks like my Vegas photos! lol


Iím sure it does 🙄
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November 21st, 2019 at 7:25:53 PM permalink
So the guys come in say that one of my Rolexes is a fake, which it isn't, and I respond "How would you know, you guys have maybe five hundred bucks worth of watches between the lot of you," and I get suspended.

By the same token, EvenBob states for the record that AlexWolf wouldn't know a thing about Bacc because he's never really played the game.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/21350-baccaratfrom79s-response-to-the-board/20/#post441457


Anyway, this latest trip continues well, and no the chips below do not represent a mere pull against my line, and yes this watch is just another of many many of mine and no it is not a fake. For my Gambling Adventures during my Wiz hiatus I found a different venue, not my own, but one with a friendly Admin. that gave me my own corner. Thank you BBB.


The pit boss where I am playing the current segment of the trip (different from the casino represented in the above photo, which represents the first segment of this ongoing trip), said they have me logged at 110 hours play this year alone, with ahead for the year, and ahead lifetime.
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November 21st, 2019 at 9:36:26 PM permalink
Welcome back Mr Dawg.
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November 21st, 2019 at 9:55:45 PM permalink
Congrats on your parole, MDawg.
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November 21st, 2019 at 11:22:58 PM permalink
I'm super jealous of that watch and those chips. That picture makes me envy and admire you as a gambler and as a human being. You are truly an excellent man.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 12:20:47 AM permalink
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I'm super jealous of that watch and those chips. That picture makes me envy and admire you as a gambler and as a human being. You are truly an excellent man.

You mean all the Folex watches don't do it for you?
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November 22nd, 2019 at 12:22:40 AM permalink
Okay if I didn't know this MDawg and I looked at that post just made yesterday, I'd think, 'What a d**k."

But, on the other hand, sometimes, you have to say, "What the f*ck."

Make your move.

That's one thing I've learned in all my years.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 2:43:51 AM permalink
I have never understood all the bickering posts in this thread and have now come to the conclusion that I do not understand any of the Non-Bickering posts either.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 4:02:24 AM permalink
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November 22nd, 2019 at 4:48:42 AM permalink
How many watches do you take with you when you go to Vegas?
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November 22nd, 2019 at 7:32:44 AM permalink
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How many watches do you take with you when you go to Vegas?



The better question is how many does he leave with?
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November 22nd, 2019 at 7:48:40 AM permalink
Let's just say that I change my watch when I want to change my luck, or just for the hell of it, for fun. But no, I don't travel with all of my watches. Also, I don't really wear any jewelry or these level of precious metal watches regularly, but Vegas is one place where I think it's okay to get a little excessive.

If you take a look at the Baccarat tables in Vegas at some of the casinos you'll see a half million or more in watches collectively at the table at any given time. Not so much with the Asian players though most of them wear very cheap watches, or no watch at all, but some of the American and especially most all of the European or Middle Eastern players generally sport something that costs a good sum.

All are insured and some have a GPS tracker hidden on them when stored, plus into the cases where they are stored. I take extra measures when traveling.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 7:49:37 AM permalink
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You mean all the Folex watches don't do it for you?



True story! My mother worked in Manhattan for many years. Bought a watch on the street for $20. It was beautiful, and looked like the brand it was made to copy. I asked her what brand it was. Her answer?

Itís a Bolex! The R in Rolex was Ďclosedí to look more like a B!

She loved her Bolex.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 8:10:43 AM permalink
Didnt varmenti talk about watches too?
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November 22nd, 2019 at 8:55:57 AM permalink
Sometimes I look at my phone to see what time it is, and lament over how much better the experience would be if I was doing it on a 10k wristwatch instead of my $150 Moto G or X or whatever shit phone I have.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 3:02:06 PM permalink
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True story! My mother worked in Manhattan for many years. Bought a watch on the street for $20. It was beautiful, and looked like the brand it was made to copy. I asked her what brand it was. Her answer?

Itís a Bolex! The R in Rolex was Ďclosedí to look more like a B!

She loved her Bolex.

I have so many stories about fake Rolexes, I wouldn't even know where to start.
Whenever I'm approached with the Rolex scam I quickly cut them off and let them know they know what the deal is and ask him what the Rock Bottom price is. If they make me a fair deal I'll buy a few so they can make a small profit.
I've given them away as gifts to people obviously letting them know they're fake. Some people think it's pretty cool having one, even though it's fake. There are people that are willing to pay two or three hundred dollars for good quality fake Rolex. My nephew was begging me to send me all my fakes because all of his friends we're willing to pay a decent amount for a fake one.



I've gotten some really good looking replicas for $40 with sweeping movement.

I have one sitting in the junk drawer somewhere and my wife has one in her jewelry box.

It would be almost impossible to tell a good fake from a real one buy just looking at a picture especially from the front side.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 22nd, 2019 at 4:12:27 PM permalink
Yesterday was 39th anniversary of mgm fire. Mdawg you said back in your heyday you were in Vegas all time. Did you get to witness that tragedy by happenstance?
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November 22nd, 2019 at 7:50:49 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Yesterday was 39th anniversary of mgm fire. Mdawg you said back in your heyday you were in Vegas all time. Did you get to witness that tragedy by happenstance?

Way too obvious.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 22nd, 2019 at 7:59:33 PM permalink
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Yesterday was 39th anniversary of mgm fire. Mdawg you said back in your heyday you were in Vegas all time. Did you get to witness that tragedy by happenstance?



I was living across the street from the DuPont Plaza in San Juan for the fire. We were drinking on the balcony enjoying the fire until they started bringing out body bags by the score. Worst thing I ever saw until 2001.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 9:25:12 PM permalink
MGM fire was before my time.

But I was staying at Bellagio when Caesar's was on fire, this is the pic I took from my penthouse, as I recall, 2001.


Axel, if you post a pic of any of those fake Rolexes at any online watch forum anyone there will immediately detect that it is a fake. What might look indistinguishable to the real thing to you, is obviously fake to anyone who knows Rolexes. I'd go over all the nuances, but it would take a small paragraph. Actually, give anyone who knows, a good pic of the front of the watch and he will be able to tell easily whether it is real or fake. The BACK of the Rolex is where it might be harder to tell, as there is no writing on the back (except on some very, very old Rolexes) and less tell tale signs of replica, but still the crown would be visible and anyone in the know may tell the difference between the real Rolex crown and replica. On the other hand, I will agree that flashed in an instant on one's wrist, it is harder to tell the real from the fake, but one thing about real versus fake that anyone with jewelry experience may tell easily in person, is the difference between precious metals (platinum, gold) and for example fake gold-tone crapola. Platinum especially, in person, anyone experienced may tell the difference between it and say, stainless steel, just visually notwithstanding that platinum weighs a ton compared to even 18K gold.

Most fake watches just try to imitate something in stainless steel, because it isn't worth the price of gold or platinum to place these precious metals into a worthless fake, nor are there any imitations to precious metals that look anything like the real thing.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 9:31:39 PM permalink
At a recent session the female pit boss, and I know her pretty well but she is one of those types who doesn't get excited one way or another at much, was telling me to stop banging the winning cards on the table, because the sound bothered her. I ignored her, but afterwards, up in the suite, after the winning session, I was actually fairly mad at her. The nerve.

And then towards the end of my session my shoe got bad so I moved to another table with a few K leaving most of my chips at the first table, and she actually said "you can't do that" as in can't have chips at two tables. I literally laughed in her face and told her "I'll do what I want." What a silly ___.

What bothers me about the whole affair is the negative energy it will create to have a showdown with her over anything that should really, be none of her business. Do they tell craps players to be quiet when they're winning?
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November 22nd, 2019 at 11:10:17 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

MGM fire was before my time.

But I was staying at Bellagio when Caesar's was on fire, this is the pic I took from my penthouse, as I recall, 2001.


Axel, if you post a pic of any of those fake Rolexes at any online watch forum anyone there will immediately detect that it is a fake. What might look indistinguishable to the real thing to you, is obviously fake to anyone who knows Rolexes. I'd go over all the nuances, but it would take a small paragraph. Actually, give anyone who knows, a good pic of the front of the watch and he will be able to tell easily whether it is real or fake. The BACK of the Rolex is where it might be harder to tell, as there is no writing on the back (except on some very, very old Rolexes) and less tell tale signs of replica, but still the crown would be visible and anyone in the know may tell the difference between the real Rolex crown and replica. On the other hand, I will agree that flashed in an instant on one's wrist, it is harder to tell the real from the fake, but one thing about real versus fake that anyone with jewelry experience may tell easily in person, is the difference between precious metals (platinum, gold) and for example fake gold-tone crapola. Platinum especially, in person, anyone experienced may tell the difference between it and say, stainless steel, just visually notwithstanding that platinum weighs a ton compared to even 18K gold.

Most fake watches just try to imitate something in stainless steel, because it isn't worth the price of gold or platinum to place these precious metals into a worthless fake, nor are there any imitations to precious metals that look anything like the real thing.

I thought I was on block???
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I was talking without being able to see the movement.

Anyone can look up on YouTube video and take a crash course in detecting fakes. Any decent one most people probably can't tell from just a photo taken and post up here.

For anybody interested in the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upAJE_XhT2Y
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November 22nd, 2019 at 11:49:00 PM permalink
I toleja I unbanned most everyone.

The movement isn't integral to figuring out fake or not, just a good clear still photo of the front and most anyone who knows may tell real or not. There are a lot of tell tale signs on and aspects to the dial, crown, case that give it away, if you know what to look for.

The good fakes have Japanese sweep movement in them and sweep just like the real ones.

Tell ya' what, take a very good still photo of your fake Rolex and post it in one of the watch forums. Not one person there will be fooled, and you'll get an education in what to look for.

(In that video you posted I could tell which one was fake instantly, just from the circular sweep grooving in the sub-dials.) PLUS in that video you are taking about a fake that costs a couple THOUSAND dollars. I actually have that exact watch, the real one, a Daytona with the ceramic dial, and mine cost about twenty grand, and that was a very good deal. I can't see someone paying thousands of dollars for a great fake that still, end of the day, is a fake. Your typical Rolex fake costs fifty bucks and looks ridiculous.

And by the way, just as I mentioned above, that "great" (but still detectable) fake you posted in your video there is stainless steel. That's as far as they'll go with the fakes, imitating stainless steel watches, they're not going to slam that fake movement and dial into a block of platinum or 18K gold, no way.

Also, just as it says at the end of your video, and this answers sabre's question, "You can fake the watch, but can you fake the way it makes you feel?" Wearing a fake makes you feel...fake. Wearing the real thing, well, that's right up there with how you feel when driving a nice car versus a basic transportation car, or how you feel when you pull up to your ocean front or mountain view estate, versus a little apartment. Any car will get you where you're going, any watch will tell the time, and any house will shelter you from the rain, but...nice versions of these will make you feel differently. Unless of course you're a Buddhist monk, wrapped in a sheet, in which case you don't give a sh*t about any of that, or at least you're not supposed to.
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November 23rd, 2019 at 2:02:28 AM permalink
I thought I'd bet on Tie but it didn't show up until 39 hands later. What's the record?
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November 23rd, 2019 at 3:09:28 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

MGM fire was before my time.

But I was staying at Bellagio when Caesar's was on fire, this is the pic I took from my penthouse, as I recall, 2001.


This picture was obviously not taken from a Bellagio penthouse because you can see the Bellagio on the left.
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November 23rd, 2019 at 3:43:42 AM permalink
Is that little bit of road Flamingo? If the pic is from Bellagio, then that road would be Dean Martin, right?

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