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July 23rd, 2026 at 2:09:34 AM permalink
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Can anyone please identify if this 5 Card Poker is related to any known existing game? It seems like Oasis Poker but it says you can draw two cards...
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Looks like Caribbean draw, with the exception of AK vs 88 to qualify.
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July 23rd, 2026 at 6:05:43 AM permalink
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harris,

Is this a 6D game?

Dog Hand
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Unsure, they probably have different pay tables depending on the number of decks
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July 23rd, 2026 at 8:49:06 AM permalink
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Quote: harris

Can anyone please identify if this 5 Card Poker is related to any known existing game? It seems like Oasis Poker but it says you can draw two cards...
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Looks like Caribbean draw, with the exception of AK vs 88 to qualify.
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I didn't see a 5 Card Poker paytable for the BET wager. They mention that a Flush pays 5X if the dealer qualifies. Do you know of a paytable?
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July 23rd, 2026 at 8:52:53 AM permalink
I don't have any more information on this game than what the website provides.
Has anyone here gambled in India?
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July 23rd, 2026 at 10:48:57 AM permalink
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Quote: Torghatten

Quote: harris

Can anyone please identify if this 5 Card Poker is related to any known existing game? It seems like Oasis Poker but it says you can draw two cards...
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Looks like Caribbean draw, with the exception of AK vs 88 to qualify.
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I didn't see a 5 Card Poker paytable for the BET wager. They mention that a Flush pays 5X if the dealer qualifies. Do you know of a paytable?
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There was a slightly difference in the lower paypouts.


AK 88
RF 100 100
SF 50 50
4OK 20 20
FH 7 7
Flush 5 5
Straight 4 3
3OK 3 2
2 pair 2 1
Pair or lower 1 1


Payouts from "my casino"
https://casinostenerife.com/poker-con-descarte/
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July 23rd, 2026 at 12:03:22 PM permalink
So when would player pay a fee of one Ante bet to draw 1 or 2 cards?

On 4 cards to a Royal Flush such as: AsKsQsTs2h

On 4 cards to a straight flush such as Qs5d4d3d2d

Anything else? Not draw 2 cards to a 3oaK, I think. It's close and I haven't done the math, but you'd lose your fee if dealer doesn't qualify, right?
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July 23rd, 2026 at 2:39:21 PM permalink
Sorry i didnt see the line first time i read it:
Quote:

5 Card Poker, there is also an added option of exchanging a maximum of 2 cards each for the price of an Ante bet. You perform this exchange if you think your cards can be in a better sequence by exchanging two cards. You also forfeit the jackpot bonus when doing an exchange.



Which makes it a complete different game...
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July 27th, 2026 at 6:46:05 PM permalink
I saw an interesting dice-based ETG game which you can see here. It's vaguely like Sic Bo - but six dice are rolled and each randomly gets a color.
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July 28th, 2026 at 12:02:14 AM permalink
A new pay table for Pot of Gold was noted recently.

I calculate the house edge to be about 4.05%. Might be off by a few permyriads so let's just say the house edge is 4% :D
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July 28th, 2026 at 1:26:06 PM permalink
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I saw an interesting dice-based ETG game which you can see here. It's vaguely like Sic Bo - but six dice are rolled and each randomly gets a color.
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I was at Firekeepers in Battle Creek, MI a few days ago and saw this game. I didn't play it and didn't see anybody playing it while I was there. It had a $3 min bet.
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July 28th, 2026 at 2:37:18 PM permalink
Did you see any other new games there? I feel like FireKeepers is where a lot of games get their first chance.
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July 28th, 2026 at 3:13:22 PM permalink
They had a game that was like the Battleship board game.
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July 29th, 2026 at 3:06:42 PM permalink
I was alerted by a forum member (thanks) to a new Craps side bet at Pechanga called Around The Horn Twice. The goal is to get 2, 3, 11, and 12 before rolling 7. If you do that once, you get paid 60:1. Do it twice in a row, you get paid 600:1

I calculate a 22.915% house edge.

Personally I think there is a lot of room in innovation in the field of Craps bets, compared to blackjack, baccarat, and poker-based table games.
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July 29th, 2026 at 6:02:48 PM permalink
I was curious how this works. Do you have to go all the way around the horn once before you can start counting numbers towards the second time? or if you roll a number twice off the bat it counts towards the second time around....
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July 29th, 2026 at 6:31:19 PM permalink
I think you have to go "all the way around the horn" before you start counting numbers again
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July 30th, 2026 at 9:17:59 AM permalink
I saw that 3 Dice Yahtzee came out recently, the rules can be seen here. "3 Dice Duel" and "3 Dice Baccarat" are the same game by Galaxy Gaming, so I assumed that 3 Dice Yahtzee was just another rebrand of the same concept. I was wrong, it's a different game.

Official Harris analysis coming soon (next week)
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July 30th, 2026 at 9:14:44 PM permalink
I think the house edge for the main two bets are really low: just between 1.2153% and 0.9849% house edge depending on the payout for 6-6-6.

I've decided to let the side bets be an exercise for the reader. I could easily find the RTPs but I don't think anyone in this forum would care since they probably have really high house edges to offset the low house edge of the main bet. If someone crowns me Wizard 2 or Mage or something and lets me write an article on the website for the benefit of random gamblers around America, I would put in the effort and get the side bet house edges.

Good night :)
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July 30th, 2026 at 9:34:47 PM permalink
We all know you will have it calculated and posted by tomorrow :)
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July 30th, 2026 at 9:36:22 PM permalink
I mostly play online casino and the one that i liked most .. is red door roulette.

it's a show type game.
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July 30th, 2026 at 9:39:35 PM permalink
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I saw an interesting dice-based ETG game which you can see here. It's vaguely like Sic Bo - but six dice are rolled and each randomly gets a color.
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I was at Firekeepers in Battle Creek, MI a few days ago and saw this game. I didn't play it and didn't see anybody playing it while I was there. It had a $3 min bet.
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They had a big launch party for this from what I could tell on their social media, but ya doesn't seem super familiar to players. I was hoping it was Yahtzee when I first saw it, but it wasn't...
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July 30th, 2026 at 9:42:14 PM permalink
I like the idea of trying to bring back dice games because it's an under-utilized modality of gambling. However the color aspect of the game is strange. Dice don't randomly change color in real life - unlike other dice-based ETGs there aren't real dice as far as I can tell.

In case the inventors are reading, I hope I'm wrong and that the game is successful beyond your wildest dreams
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July 30th, 2026 at 9:45:48 PM permalink
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I mostly play online casino and the one that i liked most .. is red door roulette.

it's a show type game.
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That game involves a slot reel so I can't figure out the RTP, but fortunately I can figure out the RTP by reading the listed RTP online which is 97.30% - same as regular roulette. I have seen many companies make online variations of this idea (roulette with multipliers). I think that mixing table games with random and opaque slot-based elements like reels are okay online but I wouldn't like to play a game like that in real life because the RTP and strategy wouldn't be clear to me.
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July 30th, 2026 at 10:08:18 PM permalink
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I mostly play online casino and the one that i liked most .. is red door roulette.

it's a show type game.
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That game involves a slot reel so I can't figure out the RTP, but fortunately I can figure out the RTP by reading the listed RTP online which is 97.30% - same as regular roulette. I have seen many companies make online variations of this idea (roulette with multipliers). I think that mixing table games with random and opaque slot-based elements like reels are okay online but I wouldn't like to play a game like that in real life because the RTP and strategy wouldn't be clear to me.
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Correct me if I am wrong. IRL casino has lesser RTP than online casinos.
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July 30th, 2026 at 10:19:09 PM permalink
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Correct me if I am wrong. IRL casino has lesser RTP than online casinos.
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I am correcting you

It depends but usually the table games have around the same RTP

Slots are a different story
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August 1st, 2026 at 11:49:35 AM permalink
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Can anyone please identify if this 5 Card Poker is related to any known existing game? It seems like Oasis Poker but it says you can draw two cards...
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I am trying to interpret something in the 5 Card poker rules.

"The dealer must have an Ace and King combination or better to qualify to play the round. If the dealer doesn’t qualify, it will result in a ‘Push’ irrespective of the player's hand."
"Ace/King is the lowest ranking combination in 5 Card Poker. It is the minimum rank to qualify. When both the dealer and the player have an Ace/King, the winning depends on the value of the other card of the highest value. The payout on winning with Ace/King is even money on the ante and the bet amount."


(1) Does this mean that the dealer qualifies with AKxxx or higher?
(2) Or with Kxxxx or higher?

As it is written it seems to be (1) but that means the DNQ frequency is very high (guessing about 45% ). That's a strange way to design a game. the more I look at the rules of this game, the less sense this game makes.
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August 1st, 2026 at 1:00:30 PM permalink
I think they mean AKxxx otherwise it would have just said “Kings or better”

Isn’t A/K the qualifier in Caribbean Stud Poker? I assume it’s based on that
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August 2nd, 2026 at 4:10:33 AM permalink
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I think they mean AKxxx otherwise it would have just said “Kings or better”

Isn’t A/K the qualifier in Caribbean Stud Poker? I assume it’s based on that
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In the draw version of Carribean Stud Poker the dealer also has the option to draw 2 cards. So the qualification rule for dealer is based on 7 cards.

In this game, the A/K qualification rule is for 5 dealer cards. The dealer will not qualify about 44% of the time, resulting in an automatic push. But this game also requires the player to pay a fee of one ante bet to exchange up two cards - and this is done before the dealer turns over their cards and reveals whether they have qualified. Usually the fee for exchanging/drawing cards is not refundable.

Why would anyone pay a fee of one ante bet to draw cards when there is a 44% chance of a DNQ causing you to lose your fee? This is madness.
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August 2nd, 2026 at 7:19:48 AM permalink
One of us should fly to India and ask the pit boss for clarification
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August 3rd, 2026 at 7:44:10 AM permalink
Slightly off-topic, but this weekend I made a database of all the "tables games" (backgammon variants) that I found from around the world, linked here. This was inspired by my previous database of checkers (draughts) varieties from around the world.

I have an even cooler database that I will share in a post later today... get mildly excited
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August 3rd, 2026 at 8:12:23 AM permalink
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Slightly off-topic, but this weekend I made a database of all the "tables games" (backgammon variants) that I found from around the world, linked here. This was inspired by my previous database of checkers (draughts) varieties from around the world.

I have an even cooler database that I will share in a post later today... get mildly excited
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Shoot, I remember a paper backgammon set from my youth with at least 6 variants listed inside the cover of the boardgame box.
I only see 2 familiar names listed.

Still, if you find a board games section at a thrift store, and there is a checkers/backgammon set, the inside may be calling your name...
May the cards fall in your favor.
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August 3rd, 2026 at 3:59:09 PM permalink
Just read about Foxwoods in the news while doing research for my upcoming Table Games-related project.

Good news, the game Double Hook Poker still exists. Additionally, Chase The Flush is coming to the East Coast.

But there is a new game which I haven't seen anywhere. At G2E I saw the game Party Pair and made a demo of it when I got home to New York City. I emailed the creator but he never got back to me so I completely forgot about it, and assumed it was never placed anywhere. Well, I was wrong :D I am not allowed to gamble at Foxwoods (work conflict) but maybe someone here will try out the game :)
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