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3 votes (15.78%)
4 votes (21.05%)
10 votes (52.63%)
3 votes (15.78%)
No votes (0%)
2 votes (10.52%)
1 vote (5.26%)
4 votes (21.05%)
2 votes (10.52%)
3 votes (15.78%)

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Wizard
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MrCasinoGames
September 29th, 2018 at 1:13:23 PM permalink
I hear the Rio is hosting a field trial of the game Dragon Poker. Click that link to play their demo, which is nicely done, especially the "help" button. Basically, it seems like a cross between Three Card Poker and Ultimate Texas Hold 'Em, but played with a modified deck, as follows, in rank order, from highest to lowest:

3 Fire Dragons
3 Water Dragons
1 wild Gold Dragon
7 Phoenixes (what is the plural of phoenix?)
8 Tigers
9 Pandas
10 Monkeys
12 Rabbits

I will try to check it out shortly, maybe even this evening.

The help pages suggest raising with a Phoenix-Panda or higher.

The question for the poll is would you play Dragon Poker?
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TigerWu
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September 29th, 2018 at 1:19:31 PM permalink
I'll wait till you tell me what the house edge is before I decide to play it.

But I am at least interested enough to wait for the analysis.
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September 29th, 2018 at 1:26:51 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

I'll wait till you tell me what the house edge is before I decide to play it.

But I am at least interested enough to wait for the analysis.



I very wise position. For now, I can at least do the side bets. Stay tuned.
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September 29th, 2018 at 2:01:35 PM permalink
Here is my analysis of the 3 Card Bonus. Any agreements or disagreements from the other math wizards on the forum?

Event Pays Combinations Probability Return
Three Dragons 40 35 0.001494 0.059763
Three Phoenices 30 56 0.002391 0.071715
Three Tigers 15 84 0.003586 0.053786
Other trips 10 571 0.024375 0.243746
Two Dragons 4 966 0.041236 0.164945
Two Phoenix 2 1,218 0.051994 0.103987
Two Tigers 1 1,480 0.063178 0.063178
Other -1 19,016 0.811748 -0.811748
Total 23,426 1.000000 -0.050628
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September 29th, 2018 at 2:10:43 PM permalink
Here is my analysis of the Dragon Bonus. I assume the top two awards must be natural (otherwise the return is 97%, which seems too high for a max $5 side bet). Pays are on a "for one" basis.

Event Pays Combinations Probability Return
Three Fire Dragons 1000 1 0.000043 0.042688
Three Water Dragons 1000 1 0.000043 0.042688
Three Dragons with Gold Dragon 200 15 0.000640 0.128063
Three Natural Dragons 60 18 0.000768 0.046103
Two Dragons 7 966 0.041236 0.288654
One Gold Dragon 5 1,035 0.044182 0.220908
All other 0 21,390 0.913088 0.000000
Total 23,426 1.000000 0.769103
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September 29th, 2018 at 2:42:31 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard


3 Fire Dragons
3 Water Dragons
1 wild Gold Dragon
7 Phoenixes (what is the plural of phoenix?)
8 Tigers
9 Pandas
10 Monkeys
12 Rabbits



And a partridge in a pear tree.

Seriously, what's up with these new games that require goofy custom decks?
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September 29th, 2018 at 2:45:34 PM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

Seriously, what's up with these new games that require goofy custom decks?



I'm assuming they're trying to appeal to younger crowds who grew up with collectible card games and video games and all that kind of jazz.
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September 29th, 2018 at 4:44:30 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

I'm assuming they're trying to appeal to younger crowds who grew up with collectible card games and video games and all that kind of jazz.



I think anybody alive can remember baseball cards. As for me, I was big on Wacky Packs and Charlie's Angels Cards. With I still had them -- my brother stole many and the mother threw away the rest.
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September 29th, 2018 at 5:20:59 PM permalink
Isn't this what Bill Cosby used to do?

Drag and poke her :)

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September 29th, 2018 at 6:18:48 PM permalink
I played a couple hundred hands. It was a steady drain, and the occasional odds pay didn't make up for it. I was never ahead of the original stake.

I think phoenix/panda is too optimistic. I played dragon/tiger or fold, did not fold a single winner, lost several good hands.

Moved to dragon/panda 2nd hundred cards, folded 3 winners, two phoenix high. Lost 6 dragon/panda, 2 dragon/tiger to better non-pair hands.

Easily could be variance, and if the math says phoenix/panda, that's what it says. But just because the preponderance of the cards are panda or lower doesn't seem to mean the dealer will get them.
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