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mrsuit31
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September 29th, 2018 at 7:05:36 PM permalink
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Seriously, what's up with these new games that require goofy custom decks?



One reason may be that the Smith decision expressly stated one example of patentable material being a custom deck of cards. Anyone with an idea that uses them has a better chance at patent issuence than others.

Not saying that is definitely the reason, but Iím sure itís a factor.
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September 29th, 2018 at 7:38:27 PM permalink
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Not saying that is definitely the reason, but Iím sure itís a factor.



I think it's a factor too.
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September 30th, 2018 at 1:16:53 PM permalink
In trying to program this game, I realize there is a rule I am not sure about. Who would win in the following situation:

Player: Fire dragon, Fire dragon, Water dragon
Dealer: Panda, Panda, Panda

I welcome your interpretation of the rules in this situation.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
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September 30th, 2018 at 2:02:48 PM permalink
What is the source of the house advantage on the play bet? Does the dealer's hand need to qualify? Also, do ties go to the dealer?
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September 30th, 2018 at 2:15:19 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

In trying to program this game, I realize there is a rule I am not sure about. Who would win in the following situation:

Player: Fire dragon, Fire dragon, Water dragon
Dealer: Panda, Panda, Panda

I welcome your interpretation of the rules in this situation.



Def. Player. Dragons are dragons and the highest 3OAK regardless of suit/color/wild.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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September 30th, 2018 at 2:17:48 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

What is the source of the house advantage on the play bet? Does the dealer's hand need to qualify? Also, do ties go to the dealer?



No HA on play except

1. You have to bet/fold first.
2. Mandatory blind bet only pays on panda pair or better, and ONLY if you win. Felt and instructions don't say this. If your panda pair loses to tiger pair, no blind pay.

But if you lose, you lose all 3 bets.

Dealer always qualifies.

Ties push.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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September 30th, 2018 at 2:27:12 PM permalink
I've played another 300 hands today. I strictly played their recommended strategy of phoenix/panda or better. I lost the first 25 times I played this (phoenix /panda or phoenix /tiger). I finally won 1, and it was phoenix/tiger. Lost any subsequent.

I also only played Dragon /panda or better with a dragon in the hand. I folded dragon/monkey/rabbit. That was correct 32 times in a row, then 2 in a row would have won.

I did not ever fold a winner otherwise, and went 250 hands without winning a phoenix top, then won 1 within the last 50. I did push panda/monkey/rabbit twice. I would have expected that more often, actually.

So, I think their OS is incorrect. I think dragon/panda or better is going to be mathematically correct, but I'll be very interested to see what you guys find by the numbers.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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September 30th, 2018 at 2:50:44 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Def. Player. Dragons are dragons and the highest 3OAK regardless of suit/color/wild.



Then why two different colors of dragons? Who would win here:

Player: Fire dragon, Fire dragon, Fire dragon
Dealer: Water dragon, Water dragon, Water dragon
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September 30th, 2018 at 3:33:09 PM permalink
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Then why two different colors of dragons? Who would win here:

Side bets
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Player: Fire dragon, Fire dragon, Fire dragon
Dealer: Water dragon, Water dragon, Water dragon


Tie.
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September 30th, 2018 at 3:57:07 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Then why two different colors of dragons? Who would win here:

Player: Fire dragon, Fire dragon, Fire dragon
Dealer: Water dragon, Water dragon, Water dragon



Speculating, so they could build the dragon bonus bet. No other reason I can see. But they differentiate several combos of dragons.

Just like any 7s purple 7s, red 7s on those 3 reel 20 line things. (Can't think of the name. Very popular IGT that awards 12 free spins if you get 3 spin symbols anywhere on the screen. Has cherries and 1,2,3 bars also. Triple double wilds.)

There seem to be equal numbers of purple and red 7s in that game, but the pay on each is different. Think it's arbitrary to build the return they want.

Anyway, I did have pair of blues panda and the board had pair of reds panda, and it was a tie.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.

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