Desperately Seeking Baccarat
Quote: Beethoven9thHuh? *shrug*
My little spiel was a take on a famous exchange from Princess Bride.
Guess I assumed everyone has seen it. Ah well...at least I entertained myself =p
Quote: FaceMy little spiel was a take on a famous exchange from Princess Bride.
Guess I assumed everyone has seen it. Ah well...at least I entertained myself =p
Oh crap...sad part? I DID see it! *hangs head in shame*
It's been years since I saw it though. (I know, I know...lame excuse! LOL!)
Quote: FaceMy little spiel was a take on a famous exchange from Princess Bride.
Guess I assumed everyone has seen it. Ah well...at least I entertained myself =p
The biggest lesson of the Princess Bride : Vizzini was right! Well up until the point he decided to drink...
Quote: Beethoven9thActually, baccarat originated in either France or Italy. I never did quite understand how it became so popular among Asians.
You know, I would just about bet money that the French and Italians still bicker about the game's origins to this day.
As to the Asians, I suspect a lot of them don't even know why the game is popular amongst them.
Quote: rob45As to the Asians, I suspect a lot of them don't even know why the game is popular amongst them.
The Asians are, generally speaking, a rather superstitious people, and this game, with its intricacies such as the unique card-drawing rules and the pattern/trend matches, falls directly into their gaming comfort zones. Those that play it are, IMHO, virtually addicted to it.
Quote: gr8playerThose that play it are, IMHO, virtually addicted to it.
Yep. And deluded into thinking that they can use past patterns to predict future results, too.
Quote: gr8playerThose that play it are, IMHO, virtually addicted to it.
Then you must be Asian, teacher!
Quote: rdw4potusYep. And deluded into thinking that they can use past patterns to predict future results, too.
Hello, rdw4potus. I trust all is well with you.
Use the "past patterns" how, exactly? It's all in the "how", my friend.
Me? I keep tally of their results and play a measured, variance-based bet selection and money-management process.
I seek to "pedict" nothing, for I claim no clairvoyance.
I just put my money up and take my chances, just as any other player. But that's where the similarity ends. Inside that betting circle.
You see, I'm betting on the side that I deem appropriate based upon certain statistics that I carry, with the similarly-appropriate amount.
And I've an answer to the results, win or lose. That answer and response is all pre-set, even before the cards are drawn. Win = this move; lose = that move.
You see, rdw4potus, I play a game of Baccarat such as you've never witnessed, and to paint me with the same broad brush as you seem to apply to every Baccarat player is your mistake in judgement, not mine. Deal with that....
Quote: gr8player
I just put my money up and take my chances, just as any other player. But that's where the similarity ends. Inside that betting circle.
You see, I'm betting on the side that I deem appropriate based upon certain statistics that I carry, with the similarly-appropriate amount.
Mmmhmm...and where the delusion part comes in is where you think that your magic statistics are better than the random selection of a bet in a situation where the outcome is...wait for it...random.
Quote: rdw4potusMmmhmm...and where the delusion part comes in is where you think that your magic statistics are better than the random selection of a bet in a situation where the outcome is...wait for it...random.
OK. Here's the problem:
You're busy concentrating on single outcomes, where I'm much more concerned with the much larger picture that is formed over a much larger sampling of outcomes. My statistics will bear themselves out over the longer term, not necessarily on a decision-by-decision basis.
Quote: gr8playerOK. Here's the problem:
You're busy concentrating on single outcomes, where I'm much more concerned with the much larger picture that is formed over a much larger sampling of outcomes. My statistics will bear themselves out over the longer term, not necessarily on a decision-by-decision basis.
LMFAO
Edit: The sum of a string of random events is also random...
+1Quote: rdw4potusLMFAO
Edit: The sum of a string of random events is also random...
He also thinks he can spin straw into gold. LOL!
You know what I find funny?
I find it absolutely hysterical when people quote the "negative expectation" and the "random event" statistics while they've no true regard nor understanding of what I might be doing in response to those statistics.
Might my game be enough to counteract theirs?
Nah....better, and easier, to laugh it all off....
Quote: gr8playerWhat's so funny, rdw4potus? I see no humor in my responses to your queries, rather I see only misunderstanding.
You know what I find funny?
I find it absolutely hysterical when people quote the "negative expectation" and the "random event" statistics while they've no true regard nor understanding of what I might be doing in response to those statistics.
Might my game be enough to counteract theirs?
Nah....better, and easier, to laugh it all off....
We are laughing as there is nothing you can do in response to those statistics. To pretend there is, is magical thinking... more importantly, it fails to understand what those numbers MEAN.
Don't worry, there's other posters here who think they can read random or tell what number is going to come up on a Roulette wheel. We laugh at those ideas as well.
Maybe the laughter is misplaced, but without any further evidence of those extra-ordinary claims, I think it's the best reaction. Taking it too seriously would make you grow old far too fast.
Quote: gr8playerI find it absolutely hysterical when people quote the "negative expectation" and the "random event" statistics while they've no true regard nor understanding of what I might be doing in response to those statistics.
Might my game be enough to counteract theirs?
Nah....better, and easier, to laugh it all off....
Please prove the world wrong, and accept rdw4potus' challenge, teacher!!
Quote: Dicenor33I checked Wizard's Macau site and found that most casinos down there offer mostly baccarat , I understand mathematics is against players, but what other game can let you really win? Here you have chops, trends, patterns. What BJ has? Counting cards, are you allowed, craps- DI's are not welcomed or maybe no limit poker- watch 5 people calling you with your pocket aces. It's only game where you have a fare chance of winning.
Hello, Dicenor33.
Yes, Macau is "Baccarat Central". As I stated before, Asians are all up into that game.
"Chops, trends, and patterns", eh? Well, my friend, around here, you might just as well have said "lions and tigers and bears, oh my..."
And you've better than "a fair chance of winning" if you remain consistent in your bet selections and patient enough to await their appearance. Then construct a money-management plan around their inherent avg win/loss streaks and....presto!....you'll have a fantastic opportunity at long term success.
And I do wish it all for you. Stay well.
Quote: gr8playerYou see, I'm betting on the side that I deem appropriate based upon certain statistics that I carry, with the similarly-appropriate amount.
There are nearly 5 quadrillion possible combinations of cards for a Baccarat hand.
Specifically 2,292,252,566,437 for Banker, 2,230,518,282,592,256 for Player, and 475,627,426,473,216 for Ties.
Yet, you've been able to assemble 'certain statistics' to bet on the side that you deem appropriate.
Quote: TankoThere are nearly 5 quadrillion possible combinations of cards for a Baccarat hand.
Specifically 2,292,252,566,437 for Banker, 2,230,518,282,592,256 for Player, and 475,627,426,473,216 for Ties.
Yet, you've been able to assemble 'certain statistics' to bet on the side that you deem appropriate.
Never fear!
"TEACHER GOT GAME!"
Quote: gr8playerMight my game be enough to counteract theirs?
Quote: Dicenor33I checked Wizard's Macau site and found that most casinos down there offer mostly baccarat , I understand mathematics is against players, but what other game can let you really win? Here you have chops, trends, patterns. What BJ has? Counting cards, are you allowed, craps- DI's are not welcomed or maybe no limit poker- watch 5 people calling you with your pocket aces. It's only game where you have a fare chance of winning.
Craps can let you win, with a fair chance.
Blackjack too.
In fact most games you have a chance of winning. It's just generally less than the chance of losing.
I tried to play BJ 100 times and I lost 100 times. I read every book on a subject and I can count aces by using my feet. I tried to play no limit 100 times and I lost100 times, I memorized every problem Harrington , Sklansky and Miller published. I can figure out EV for many situations, it does not matter, these games are rigged. When you have 20 dealer has 21 and it happens most of the time. Winning at craps? Are you suggesting betting 100 on a random shooter? Unless you are a millioner.Quote: thecesspitCraps can let you win, with a fair chance.
Blackjack too.
In fact most games you have a chance of winning. It's just generally less than the chance of losing.
Quote: Dicenor33I tried to play BJ 100 times and I lost 100 times. I read every book on a subject and I can count aces by using my feet. I tried to play no limit 100 times and I lost100 times, I memorized every problem Harrington , Sklansky and Miller published. I can figure out EV for many situations, it does not matter, these games are rigged. When you have 20 dealer has 21 and it happens most of the time. Winning at craps? Are you suggesting betting 100 on a random shooter? Unless you are a millioner.
I don't think there's much point in explaining, as you've got your own position sorted out already it seems.
Quote: TankoThere are nearly 5 quadrillion possible combinations of cards for a Baccarat hand.
Specifically 2,292,252,566,437 for Banker, 2,230,518,282,592,256 for Player, and 475,627,426,473,216 for Ties.
Yet, you've been able to assemble 'certain statistics' to bet on the side that you deem appropriate.
Oh my Goodness, Tanko, I am not concerned with any of those "5 quadrillion combinations" in my Baccarat play.
Here's my concern:
One of my "preferred trend" plays carries an avg loss streak of 4.5.
Now, as it happens, that trend is in the midst of a 3 in-a-row loss streak.
I ask you this: Would you adjust your bet size on the next sighting of that trend?
Me? Yes, I'd graduate to slightly higher bet sizes on that particular trend.
And, after that loss streak ends, which means I'm now in the midst of an impending correction, I'd raise my bet a bit further.
That, right there, Tanko....that's my concern:
Professional Baccarat
Quote: Dicenor33I tried to play BJ 100 times and I lost 100 times. I read every book on a subject and I can count aces by using my feet. I tried to play no limit 100 times and I lost100 times, I memorized every problem Harrington , Sklansky and Miller published. I can figure out EV for many situations, it does not matter, these games are rigged. When you have 20 dealer has 21 and it happens most of the time. Winning at craps? Are you suggesting betting 100 on a random shooter? Unless you are a millioner.
You've obviously never played baccarat since it's easy to lose just as much, just as fast.
Quote: gr8playerOh my Goodness, Tanko, I am not concerned with any of those "5 quadrillion combinations" in my Baccarat play.
Here's my concern:
One of my "preferred trend" plays carries an avg loss streak of 4.5.
Now, as it happens, that trend is in the midst of a 3 in-a-row loss streak.
I ask you this: Would you adjust your bet size on the next sighting of that trend?
Me? Yes, I'd graduate to slightly higher bet sizes on that particular trend.
And, after that loss streak ends, which means I'm now in the midst of an impending correction, I'd raise my bet a bit further.
That, right there, Tanko....that's my concern:
Professional Baccarat
This one post tells us all we need to know about gr8player's system.
Shoes of baccarat are not correlated. To pretend otherwise or to pretend the math tells you anything of the sort is to misunderstand statistics 101.
Quote: FaceBut it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of the cards that have been dealt: have they come out in a sequence that would now favor Player or Banker? Now, a clever man would choose Player, because he would know that only a great fool would bet on the House. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wager favoring the casino. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose Player.
You've made your decision then?
Not remotely. Because Bacarrat comes from Asia, as everyone knows, and Asia is entirely populated with people battling the casino, and people battling the casino are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose Banker.
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Wait till I get going! Now, where was I?
Asia.
Yes, Asia. And you must have suspected I would have known Bacarrat's origin, so I can clearly not choose Player.
You're just stalling now.
You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? You've beaten my Blackjack, which means you're exceptionally strong, so you could've chosen Banker, trusting on your strength to save you, so I can clearly not choose Banker. But, you've also bested my Mississippi Stud, which means you must have studied, and in studying you must have learned that bankrolls are finite, so you would have put the winner as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose Player.
You're trying to trick me into giving away something. It won't work.
IT HAS WORKED! YOU'VE GIVEN EVERYTHING AWAY! I KNOW WHERE THE WINNER WAGER IS!
Then make your choice.
I will, and I choose - What in the world can that be?
What? Where? I don't see anything.
Well, I- I could have sworn I saw something. No matter. First, let's play. Me from Player, and you from Banker.
You guessed wrong.
You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched wagers when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a system player when Bacarrat is the topic"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...
"I want....a rhuuuumm." "Qu'est-que c'est que ca, monsieur? What's that you say?" "A rhuuuummmm...rhoooommmmm....a RHOOOOOM!" "Ah. Oui."
Quote: FaceBut it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of the cards that have been dealt: have they come out in a sequence that would now favor Player or Banker? Now, a clever man would choose Player, because he would know that only a great fool would bet on the House. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wager favoring the casino. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose Player.
You've made your decision then?
Not remotely. Because Bacarrat comes from Asia, as everyone knows, and Asia is entirely populated with people battling the casino, and people battling the casino are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose Banker.
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Wait till I get going! Now, where was I?
Asia.
Yes, Asia. And you must have suspected I would have known Bacarrat's origin, so I can clearly not choose Player.
You're just stalling now.
You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? You've beaten my Blackjack, which means you're exceptionally strong, so you could've chosen Banker, trusting on your strength to save you, so I can clearly not choose Banker. But, you've also bested my Mississippi Stud, which means you must have studied, and in studying you must have learned that bankrolls are finite, so you would have put the winner as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose Player.
You're trying to trick me into giving away something. It won't work.
IT HAS WORKED! YOU'VE GIVEN EVERYTHING AWAY! I KNOW WHERE THE WINNER WAGER IS!
Then make your choice.
I will, and I choose - What in the world can that be?
What? Where? I don't see anything.
Well, I- I could have sworn I saw something. No matter. First, let's play. Me from Player, and you from Banker.
You guessed wrong.
You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched wagers when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a system player when Bacarrat is the topic"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...
I don't know how I missed this before. HOLY CRAP is this funny. In unrelated news, I think going against a system player when baccarat is the topic may be analogous with fighting to the pain...
Quote: thecesspitThis one post tells us all we need to know about gr8player's system.
Please don't let this fact get out into the open.
I have heard that someone has been preparing for years of rigorous study. Rumor is that he may have even planted an apple tree.
Quote: treetopbuddygr8player...."takes a licking and keeps on ticking"....will the watch stop first or will it be gr8player?
gr8 has been at it for almost 7 years now. He ain't stopping any time soon. He will outlast Timex!
Quote: thecesspitI don't think there's much point in explaining, as you've got your own position sorted out already it seems.
+1
Why he bothers to post here is beyond my comprehension.
Quote: gr8playerOne of my "preferred trend" plays carries an avg loss streak of 4.5.
Now, as it happens, that trend is in the midst of a 3 in-a-row loss streak.
I ask you this: Would you adjust your bet size on the next sighting of that trend?
Me? Yes, I'd graduate to slightly higher bet sizes on that particular trend.
And, after that loss streak ends, which means I'm now in the midst of an impending correction, I'd raise my bet a bit further.
Nearly 5,000,000,000,000,000 possible hand combinations and you can spot a 'trend' after three consecutive losses.
Quote: thecesspitShoes of baccarat are not correlated. To pretend otherwise or to pretend the math tells you anything of the sort is to misunderstand statistics 101.
Hello, thecesspit. I trust all is well with you.
"Statistics 101".....I took that course at CW POST some 40 years ago.....but I only graduated last year...j/k
Majored in Accounting, wound up hating it, got into sales....much more gratifying.
I am well-versed regarding baccarat shoes, and their "correlations". I dare say I know a lot more than you do regarding that subject. And I'll tell you this:
You're right. Oh, and you're wrong.
Statistically, I doubt we'd find any underlying correlations.
But I live in the real world, at real Baccarat tables, and in that world, my friend, you'll find those correlations, and, please make no mistake of this, you might even be able to CAPITALIZE on those correlations, assuming you know what to look for.
I just love it when people who know less than nothing about my play just keep right on assuming all Bac players are identical and inseparable in their approaches. I can assure you....they are not, and assumptions to the contrary are at the same time erroneous and belittling.
Quote: treetopbuddygr8player...."takes a licking and keeps on ticking"....will the watch stop first or will it be gr8player?
Hello, TTB. Always a pleasure whenever you get the chance to chime in. I trust all is well with you, my friend.
Yeah...I've faced my share of naysayers, and I totally understand their position. It's mine that gets lost in the shuffle....but it's all good.
Stay well.
Quote: Beethoven9thgr8 has been at it for almost 7 years now. He ain't stopping any time soon. He will outlast Timex!
I'm quite certain that you'll "outlast" me, Beethoven9th. You're a rather persistent and determined individual. Your goal, at least as it pertains to "anything gr8player", is blatantly obvious; keep it up, you're doing just fine for yourself.
Quote: TankoNearly 5,000,000,000,000,000 possible hand combinations and you can spot a 'trend' after three consecutive losses.
Hello again, Tanko.
I'm afraid you're looking at this game in the wrong light, my friend. The gross "hand combinations" that you continue to cite have little to do with anything regarding my Baccarat game.
The "trend spotting" is only on that one singular trend that is in the midst of the 3 IAR losing streak, where its avg loss steak extends but to 4 1/2. A very viable play, IMHO, especially with some bet sizing "adjustments".
Quote: gr8player
Statistically, I doubt we'd find any underlying correlations.
But I live in the real world, at real Baccarat tables, and in that world, my friend, you'll find those correlations, and, please make no mistake of this, you might even be able to CAPITALIZE on those correlations, assuming you know what to look for.
That's true, statistics are both irrelevant to and say nothing about the, 'real world,' why didn't I think of that before?
/sarcasm
Quote: Mission146That's true, statistics are both irrelevant to and say nothing about the, 'real world,' why didn't I think of that before?
Mission146, how are you? I hadn't seen a post of yours in any of my threads for quite some time, most probably since my last suspension....nice to see you posting here. I trust all is well with you.
Your sarcasm is not lost on me, and I totally understand your position.
But do you understand mine? What might you know about "table trends"? Anything? How about "shuffle trends"? Anything?
Please don't seek to "one-line" me away, Mission146, sarcasm notwithstanding. To me, it speaks much more about you than it does about me.
That all said, may I "sidenote" this post with:
I did read in another thread, I believe it was just yesterday, about your meeting with another forum member, and about that very interaction. And I must say, as I always speak my mind truthfully, I was rather impressed. Impressed with you, as a person. Forget the forum, for a moment, and forget our differences. We're talking about real life here. Very heartwarming read, the interaction between you and teddy. It revealed much about the both of you, and in a good way.
And, my friends, isn't that so very much more important than our "on-line personas"? Sure it is....
Quote: gr8playerMission146, how are you? I hadn't seen a post of yours in any of my threads for quite some time, most probably since my last suspension....nice to see you posting here. I trust all is well with you.
I'm doing well, thank you, and yourself? Everything is going well, discovered a new slot advantage play last night, I think it will be a reasonably frequent situation, too, and very low-risk, which I like.
Quote:Your sarcasm is not lost on me, and I totally understand your position.
But do you understand mine? What might you know about "table trends"? Anything? How about "shuffle trends"? Anything?
Well, if you're talking about shuffle-tracking, then that might be a viable method. Also, I find that the Banker/Player bets can both be counted, to a certain extent, though advantageous situations are few and far between. It seems that you can also look at the remaining cards in the shoe when you get down to one deck and assess the value of each card to each of those two bets to determine if either is at an advantage.
Again, few and far between, but possibly viable as a recreation.
In terms of trends, I don't really believe in trends, but I pretend that I do because it's fun. Let's say I'm playing my nine-pick Keno pattern, well, if I see that what would be my tenth number is hitting more than 1/4th (expected) of the time, then I'll pick up that tenth number. I'll especially do it if playing a game where bonus games occur upon hitting the last ball on a win, because I'm increasing both my overall win rate and bonus game frequency with that tenth number, anyway, 4/10 being more likely than 4/9.
Although, trends just as pure trends do absolutely nothing for me. Again, just a fun way to screw around on the Keno game, doesn't affect the House Edge against me too much as the difference in Pick-9 v. Pick-10 will vary, but negligibly.
I don't know anything about table trends, don't even pay attention in Craps because I usually only bet if I am shooting. Play BS in BJ, or count, so don't otherwise care about trends. Don't do the trending on Roulette, always make the same exact bet.
Quote:Please don't seek to "one-line" me away, Mission146, sarcasm notwithstanding. To me, it speaks much more about you than it does about me.
Okay, that's fair.
Quote:That all said, may I "sidenote" this post with:
I did read in another thread, I believe it was just yesterday, about your meeting with another forum member, and about that very interaction. And I must say, as I always speak my mind truthfully, I was rather impressed. Impressed with you, as a person. Forget the forum, for a moment, and forget our differences. We're talking about real life here. Very heartwarming read, the interaction between you and teddy. It revealed much about the both of you, and in a good way.
And, my friends, isn't that so very much more important than our "on-line personas"? Sure it is....
I appreciate the compliment, the only thing about Craps I like more than shooting is taking care of the crew, if that is what you are referring to.
Don't get me wrong, Gr8Player, Baccarat discussion aside, I'd just as easily hang out with you at the casino. I'd backcount a little Baccarat if that is strictly the only thing you play and Wong-in when the HE on either bet is less than .5%. I've got a pretty nice little count that works for that, correct 95% of the time, about (and even when wrong, the edge is less than 1%). I verify my backcount on the Wizard's Baccarat game, as much as I hate to admit it, I really enjoy that game.
Quote: gr8playerHello, thecesspit. I trust all is well with you.
"Statistics 101".....I took that course at CW POST some 40 years ago.....but I only graduated last year...j/k
Majored in Accounting, wound up hating it, got into sales....much more gratifying.
Well I believe you need to take a refresher. All the statistics you use are effects of the game being dealt, so reacting to them is meaningless, without changing the game, or having more information that PBT. Simple fact.
Quote:I am well-versed regarding baccarat shoes, and their "correlations". I dare say I know a lot more than you do regarding that subject. And I'll tell you this:
You're right. Oh, and you're wrong.
Statistically, I doubt we'd find any underlying correlations.
But I live in the real world, at real Baccarat tables, and in that world, my friend, you'll find those correlations, and, please make no mistake of this, you might even be able to CAPITALIZE on those correlations, assuming you know what to look for.
These two statements counter act themselves. Either you are using statistics properly to find correlations, or you are not. You can't have it both ways. I've done a lot of work on correlations and assessment of random strings. May be not to the keen depth you have in a small field, but trust me, I've done work on random strings, from a variety of sources.
Your model may work, but you have to find the base assumptions that are wrong between 'the real world' and the 'virtual world'... which features need to be precisely modelled... because, trust me, baccarat shoes are not so complex that they can't be modelled, analyzed and replayed to our hearts content.
Quote:
I just love it when people who know less than nothing about my play just keep right on assuming all Bac players are identical and inseparable in their approaches. I can assure you....they are not, and assumptions to the contrary are at the same time erroneous and belittling.
I know at -least- nothing about your play, and given your half-given clues, I'd say I know a little more than that too. Given your claims you are sharing your methods and techniques in the general form, it'd be your failure as a teacher if we are still guessing. All Bac players are playing the same game. How they make their decisions varies wildly, but the game is the same in all cases. I make no assumptions, I just respond to what YOU yourself have revealed. And it's up to you to either correct it with details, or just move along. Taking umbrage because your 'special' and 'different' without showing how... well, that's again your problem.
Quote: gr8playerI trust all is well with you.
Teacher, you trust all is well with everyone, huh?
Quote: Beethoven9thTeacher, you trust all is well with everyone, huh?
Maybe he's just copying that line from his GG posts, too?
Quote: rdw4potusMaybe he's just copying that line from his GG posts, too?
Check out the last line in Post #2 from 5 years ago:
http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board&topic=632
lol
Quote: Beethoven9thCheck out the last line in Post #2 from 5 years ago:
http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board&topic=632
lol
Did you copy that 'lol' from a previous post?
It's at my fingertips. All I do is press 'Ctrl + V'...hehehe ;)Quote: thecesspitDid you copy that 'lol' from a previous post?
As the purists on this site will state and experienced players will not refute.
Every hand is indeed a 50-50 outcome, every future hand has no correlation to the prior outcome or prior results.
So you venture to the Baccarat tables and decided to use FLD (follow the last decision as your bet selection, as the majority of players do). The shoe churns up, BPBPBPBPBP and you are losing hand after hand after hand. Alternatively you did a bit of research and discovered that Baccarat results are suppose / should follow the norms of expected streak distribution given a 100 or so hands, so you in your finite wisdom decided to bet OLD (opposite of whatever the last decision was) .
However the shoe has decided to produce;
BBBBBBBB
PPPPPPPPPP
BBBBBBB
PPPP
BBBBBBBBBBB
Subsequently you are winning 1 bet and losing a whole lot in between. So what are you going to do regarding any of the scenario's? Sit there and continually remind yourself, each hand is a 50-50 proposition and prior results have no bearing on future hands (which they don't, nobody is disputing it), while you continually feed the casinos chip tray, or will you go against your better judgement and go with the ebb and flow of the shoe?
Personally I don't subscribe to trending (although trending has many guises), it belongs in the realms of "gamblers fallacy", the notion of prior hands having any significance on the next hand and therefore influencing your bet selection is alien to my way of thinking. However the conundrum is, you can't just sit there and continually get beat up at the tables. If you start losing many consecutive hands and your chip stack becomes seriously depleted, it's maybe not wise to continually remind yourself of non-correlated outcomes, even though the statement is true, you face a dilemma.
