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Quote: SOOPOOFor interest, the EPL has no playoff. You win the most games during the season, you are the champion. (.Ties count as 1/3 of a win)
I’d have EPL have a 1 game playoff at the home field of the team with more points.
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IIRC, with the exception of Liechtenstein, every top level national soccer league in Europe determines its champion based solely on its (usually) double round-robin (home-and-home) regular season.
Note that there have been ties for the top spot in the EPL/England's (old) Division 1, and there was no playoff; in fact, in 1988-89, not only did Arsenal and Liverpool tie on 76 points, but they both had a goal difference of +37; rather than having a playoff, Arsenal were declared the champions as they had scored 73 goals to Liverpool's 65. (Note that Arsenal's "reward" for winning what was then Division 1 of the Football League was to sit home and watch every other country's champion compete in the 1989-90 European Cup as England's teams were still banned after the incident at the 1985 European Cup final.)
In my mind, offsides is such an easy infraction to avoid. You look towards the goal. If there isn't two defenders between you and the goal, you move backwards until there is.
one defender is enough.Quote: GenoDRPhAnother game changing goal was disallowed after VAR revue, this time due to offsides.
In my mind, offsides is such an easy infraction to avoid. You look towards the goal. If there isn't two defenders between you and the goal, you move backwards until there is.
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The zone where you are offsides if in it is very fluid, you can be easily caught in the zone as it transitions ... and with the video, there is zero tolerance from what I can tell
Besides soccer, there are many games in which there are two teams with opposing goals and a "ball".Quote: odiousgambitone defender is enough.Quote: GenoDRPhAnother game changing goal was disallowed after VAR revue, this time due to offsides.
In my mind, offsides is such an easy infraction to avoid. You look towards the goal. If there isn't two defenders between you and the goal, you move backwards until there is.
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The zone where you are offsides if in it is very fluid, you can be easily caught in the zone as it transitions ... and with the video, there is zero tolerance from what I can tell
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I'm not a rules expert but it seems that soccer is unusual by defining 'off-sides' by where the opponents are positioned. In ice hockey, which is fairly similar to soccer, offsides is defined by lines. This seems more sensible.
Basketball has no offsides penalties and as a result its a North-South game. Soccer is comprised of a lot of lateral passing.
but there is a 3 second zone, 4 seconds making you 'offsides' so to speakQuote: gordonm888
Basketball has no offsides penalties ...
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Good point; you're right.Quote: odiousgambitbut there is a 3 second zone, 4 seconds making you 'offsides' so to speakQuote: gordonm888
Basketball has no offsides penalties ...
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Quote: odiousgambitone defender is enough.Quote: GenoDRPhAnother game changing goal was disallowed after VAR revue, this time due to offsides.
In my mind, offsides is such an easy infraction to avoid. You look towards the goal. If there isn't two defenders between you and the goal, you move backwards until there is.
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The zone where you are offsides if in it is very fluid, you can be easily caught in the zone as it transitions ... and with the video, there is zero tolerance from what I can tell
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Rules state two defenders between you and the goal: one defender and usually a goalkeeper.
Fluid or not, stay onsides and leave no doubt!
As the Powers In Charge sold out the integrity of the game to add a few commercials, perhaps they can be bribed into changing this rule, too. Any rule that keeps Christian Reynoldo from scoring obviously needs to go.
When discussing the offside rule as written, being very officious and lawyerlike, you state 'two defenders' like that. When discussing the offside rule with regular people, it's easiest to just assume the goaltender is there in place. You can do otherwise and cause the confusion like we had here. People will understand that someone else can stand in for the goalkeeper temporarilyQuote: GenoDRPh
Rules state two defenders between you and the goal: one defender and usually a goalkeeper.
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I wonder if you can use your hands if you stand in?
Quote: odiousgambitWhen discussing the offside rule as written, being very officious and lawyerlike, you state 'two defenders' like that. When discussing the offside rule with regular people, it's easiest to just assume the goaltender is there in place. You can do otherwise and cause the confusion like we had here. People will understand that someone else can stand in for the goalkeeper temporarilyQuote: GenoDRPh
Rules state two defenders between you and the goal: one defender and usually a goalkeeper.
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I wonder if you can use your hands if you stand in?
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Not my fault if others can't understand plain language. If you'd like to know the source of the confusion, go to the nearest washroom or mirror and peer into said mirror. The very first person you see looking back at you, is the person to blame.
Quote: billryanIt's a stupid rule in a stupid game, but somehow one team will overcome it and win. In four years, they'll do it again, and America will pay attention for a couple of weeks.
As the Powers In Charge sold out the integrity of the game to add a few commercials, perhaps they can be bribed into changing this rule, too. Any rule that keeps Christian Reynoldo from scoring obviously needs to go.
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It's a ridiculous rule and makes it not a legitimate sport, when what some opponent does determines if you are off sides. In every other sport that has off sides it's what you do that determines it.
The rule as written, as I read it, means a whole team could line up at midfield, except for the goaltender, and no one could take a shot past midfield because they would be both in the opponent's half of the field and there would be only the goaltender between the shooter and the goal. So a team composed of one barely competent goaltender and 10 WoV members could force a 0-0 tie in any game.
That would be the goalie, who can do anything he wantsQuote: GenoDRPh
The very first person you see looking back at you, is the person to blame.
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of course that's a joke, but it would be me, and so ..............................
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanIt's a stupid rule in a stupid game, but somehow one team will overcome it and win. In four years, they'll do it again, and America will pay attention for a couple of weeks.
As the Powers In Charge sold out the integrity of the game to add a few commercials, perhaps they can be bribed into changing this rule, too. Any rule that keeps Christian Reynoldo from scoring obviously needs to go.
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It's a ridiculous rule and makes it not a legitimate sport, when what some opponent does determines if you are off sides. In every other sport that has off sides it's what you do that determines it.
The rule as written, as I read it, means a whole team could line up at midfield, except for the goaltender, and no one could take a shot past midfield because they would be both in the opponent's half of the field and there would be only the goaltender between the shooter and the goal. So a team composed of one barely competent goaltender and 10 WoV members could force a 0-0 tie in any game.
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I guess you don’t watch soccer. What you describe is called a ‘high line’. If all are lined up there you would just hit it over their heads with a teammate breaking through the ‘high line’, gaining possession and advancing for an easy one on one matchup with the goalie.
That’s not to say I like the rule. The original intent of course was to prevent ‘goal hanging’, but has turned into the preeminent strategy decision in all high level soccer games.
Mohamed Hany just scored his second goal this WC while suiting up for Egypt. This goal was beautiful header deftly placed around the goaltender. Too bad it was his team’s goaltender. Just like his first goal. If Egypt loses I expect a plethora of death threats.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanIt's a stupid rule in a stupid game, but somehow one team will overcome it and win. In four years, they'll do it again, and America will pay attention for a couple of weeks.
As the Powers In Charge sold out the integrity of the game to add a few commercials, perhaps they can be bribed into changing this rule, too. Any rule that keeps Christian Reynoldo from scoring obviously needs to go.
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It's a ridiculous rule and makes it not a legitimate sport, when what some opponent does determines if you are off sides. In every other sport that has off sides it's what you do that determines it.
The rule as written, as I read it, means a whole team could line up at midfield, except for the goaltender, and no one could take a shot past midfield because they would be both in the opponent's half of the field and there would be only the goaltender between the shooter and the goal. So a team composed of one barely competent goaltender and 10 WoV members could force a 0-0 tie in any game.
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I guess you don’t watch soccer. What you describe is called a ‘high line’. If all are lined up there you would just hit it over their heads with a teammate breaking through the ‘high line’, gaining possession and advancing for an easy one on one matchup with the goalie.
That’s not to say I like the rule. The original intent of course was to prevent ‘goal hanging’, but has turned into the preeminent strategy decision in all high level soccer games.
Mohamed Hany just scored his second goal this WC while suiting up for Egypt. This goal was beautiful header deftly placed around the goaltender. Too bad it was his team’s goaltender. Just like his first goal. If Egypt loses I expect a plethora of death threats.
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As the rule is written, it appears the offensive player charging at the goal with just the goalie would be off sides, and would be penalized.
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside
If that's not actually the rules, it should be clarified, but it reads that if there are fewer than two defenders between you and the opponent's goal, including the goalkeeper, you may not participate in a play.
