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June 27th, 2026 at 4:56:23 PM permalink
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Shame! Matches in gameday #3 are fake. Both teams play for a tie to advance. Mockery of a competition. FIFA should find a way to avoid such situations. hit the cheaters with big fines.
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Cha Ching for those that took advantage of that knowledge.

Also, the teams not playing their best players! France did and Norway didn’t. The USA put in their scrubs against Turkey.

Expanding to 48 teams was only about $$$. 72 games to eliminate 16 bottom feeders. A zero-zero tie is considered a great result for many teams. Anyone taking Cape Verde over Argentina?

Fun fact. Praia is the capital of the small island nation. Only real ‘city’ (over 100k people) in Cape Verde. So you would expect it to have more players on the national team from there than any other city. You’d be wrong. There are six ROTTERDAM born players…. Only 4 from Praia….
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I bet someone $10 I could point out Cape Verde on a map, within 1000 miles, and lost. I thought it was off the coast of Africa, in the southern Indian Ocean.

Interesting fact: There are weekly direct flights between Providence Rhode Island and Praia Cape Verde.
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June 27th, 2026 at 5:01:48 PM permalink
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I bet someone $10 I could point out Cape Verde on a map, within 1000 miles, and lost. I thought it was off the coast of Africa, in the southern Indian Ocean.



I only knew it was further north than that because it is only about a 6.5 hour flight from Providence.
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June 27th, 2026 at 5:06:20 PM permalink
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I bet someone $10 I could point out Cape Verde on a map, within 1000 miles, and lost. I thought it was off the coast of Africa, in the southern Indian Ocean.



I only knew it was further north than that because it is only about a 6.5 hour flight from Providence.
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I didn't even get the ocean right.
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June 27th, 2026 at 5:43:12 PM permalink
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Shame! Matches in gameday #3 are fake. Both teams play for a tie to advance. Mockery of a competition. FIFA should find a way to avoid such situations. hit the cheaters with big fines.
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Cha Ching for those that took advantage of that knowledge.

Also, the teams not playing their best players! France did and Norway didn’t. The USA put in their scrubs against Turkey.

Expanding to 48 teams was only about $$$. 72 games to eliminate 16 bottom feeders. A zero-zero tie is considered a great result for many teams. Anyone taking Cape Verde over Argentina?

Fun fact. Praia is the capital of the small island nation. Only real ‘city’ (over 100k people) in Cape Verde. So you would expect it to have more players on the national team from there than any other city. You’d be wrong. There are six ROTTERDAM born players…. Only 4 from Praia….
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No different than when a MLB teams sets their rotation after making the playoffs and rosters expand to 40 players. No different than when a NFL coach pulls his starters after making the playoffs. WC teams played their best players in the early games, which is why they won and qualified for the knock-out rounds with 1 or 2 games left to play. Win early, make the knock out rounds, rest the key players for health and/or yellow card reasons and go in to the next round fully loaded and ready to go. As a fan, I'd rather see my team win early and make the playoffs than have them struggle and press to have to win game 4 to earn the last seed. The teams earned the right to rest their starters. As for the ticket buying fan, they bought tickets to see their team compete, not to see any one player or players.

I assume your expanded pool objections also apply to NCAA D1 basketball, wild card MLB teams, the possible expansion of NCAA D1 football playoffs.
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One big difference is that people are paying playoff prices for the tickets, and a non-base television audience is watching what is advertised as the world's best.
I'd argue the fans bought tickets to see the team that won its way into the tournament, not their understudies.
In any event, we are now in the knockout stage so its pedal to the medal from here on out.
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People pay full price for MLB games in Sept and Oct when the rosters expand to 40 and the other teams are eliminated. And the ballpark is sold out anyway. People pay full price when the NFL team locks up the number 3 seed and rests their starters. And the stadium is sold out regardless. Let my team win big, early and often and coast in to the next round.
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June 28th, 2026 at 3:45:24 AM permalink
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Shame! Matches in gameday #3 are fake. Both teams play for a tie to advance. Mockery of a competition. FIFA should find a way to avoid such situations. hit the cheaters with big fines.
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Cha Ching for those that took advantage of that knowledge.

Also, the teams not playing their best players! France did and Norway didn’t. The USA put in their scrubs against Turkey.

Expanding to 48 teams was only about $$$. 72 games to eliminate 16 bottom feeders. A zero-zero tie is considered a great result for many teams. Anyone taking Cape Verde over Argentina?

Fun fact. Praia is the capital of the small island nation. Only real ‘city’ (over 100k people) in Cape Verde. So you would expect it to have more players on the national team from there than any other city. You’d be wrong. There are six ROTTERDAM born players…. Only 4 from Praia….
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No different than when a MLB teams sets their rotation after making the playoffs and rosters expand to 40 players. No different than when a NFL coach pulls his starters after making the playoffs. WC teams played their best players in the early games, which is why they won and qualified for the knock-out rounds with 1 or 2 games left to play. Win early, make the knock out rounds, rest the key players for health and/or yellow card reasons and go in to the next round fully loaded and ready to go. As a fan, I'd rather see my team win early and make the playoffs than have them struggle and press to have to win game 4 to earn the last seed. The teams earned the right to rest their starters. As for the ticket buying fan, they bought tickets to see their team compete, not to see any one player or players.

I assume your expanded pool objections also apply to NCAA D1 basketball, wild card MLB teams, the possible expansion of NCAA D1 football playoffs.
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One big difference is that people are paying playoff prices for the tickets, and a non-base television audience is watching what is advertised as the world's best.
I'd argue the fans bought tickets to see the team that won its way into the tournament, not their understudies.
In any event, we are now in the knockout stage so its pedal to the medal from here on out.
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People pay full price for MLB games in Sept and Oct when the rosters expand to 40 and the other teams are eliminated. And the ballpark is sold out anyway. People pay full price when the NFL team locks up the number 3 seed and rests their starters. And the stadium is sold out regardless. Let my team win big, early and often and coast in to the next round.
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“when the NFL team locks up the number 3 seed and rests their starters”

Legit. It’s good coaching. Rest the best players and even prevent costly injuries. The opponents target the value players in that sort of games.

But in tournament soccer they do somethin illegal sometimes. The dreadful tie that qualifies both teams. there were a few matches in gameday #3. It is fixing. Illegal. FBI cases if the matches are played in USA. Euro 2024 had an even more defiant case. Portugal intentionally lost their match against Georgia to avoid Holland in playoffs (round of 16).

It is blatant but hard to prove legally. Impossible.
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June 28th, 2026 at 6:52:46 AM permalink
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“when the NFL team locks up the number 3 seed and rests their starters”

Legit. It’s good coaching. Rest the best players and even prevent costly injuries. The opponents target the value players in that sort of games.

But in tournament soccer they do somethin illegal sometimes. The dreadful tie that qualifies both teams. there were a few matches in gameday #3. It is fixing. Illegal. FBI cases if the matches are played in USA. Euro 2024 had an even more defiant case. Portugal intentionally lost their match against Georgia to avoid Holland in playoffs (round of 16).

It is blatant but hard to prove legally. Impossible.
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It's not necessarily "fixing." Do you want to be the coach that has to explain to their country's fans, "Yes, it was a mistake to press for a meaningless goal that ended up resulting in our opponents catching us out of position and scoring the goal that knocked us out, when we could have just played for the draw to advance"?

The problem is, the way the competition is organized. If you want to prevent that sort of thing, pretty much the only way to do it is, only one team per round-robin group advances. Good luck getting anybody to agree to doing that. I remember when what is now the European Champions League was a single-elimination tournament.
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June 28th, 2026 at 7:32:35 AM permalink
In 2010 Spain won the World Cup. They played a total of seven games and scored a total of eight goals in those seven games. What an exciting sport.
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June 28th, 2026 at 8:12:00 AM permalink
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Shame! Matches in gameday #3 are fake. Both teams play for a tie to advance. Mockery of a competition. FIFA should find a way to avoid such situations. hit the cheaters with big fines.
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Cha Ching for those that took advantage of that knowledge.

Also, the teams not playing their best players! France did and Norway didn’t. The USA put in their scrubs against Turkey.

Expanding to 48 teams was only about $$$. 72 games to eliminate 16 bottom feeders. A zero-zero tie is considered a great result for many teams. Anyone taking Cape Verde over Argentina?

Fun fact. Praia is the capital of the small island nation. Only real ‘city’ (over 100k people) in Cape Verde. So you would expect it to have more players on the national team from there than any other city. You’d be wrong. There are six ROTTERDAM born players…. Only 4 from Praia….
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I assume your expanded pool objections also apply to NCAA D1 basketball, wild card MLB teams, the possible expansion of NCAA D1 football playoffs.
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Absolutely! The ‘devaluing’ of regular season play in most sports is the direction we have gone in.

You want to see an 83-79 Reds team in the playoffs?
We needed a 19-14 Vanderbilt team in the NCAA tourney?
The LA Kings went 35-47 this year. I need them to be in the playoffs?
Who was stoked to see the 37-45 Warriors after the regular season ended?
And the Panthers 8-9 mediocrity was a fine addition to the NFL playoffs.

SOOPOO solution.
NCAA tourney. 48 teams. Top 16 get byes
NHL. 8 teams
NBA. 8 teams
NFL. 8 teams
MLB. 8 teams
NCAAF 8 teams

For interest, the EPL has no playoff. You win the most games during the season, you are the champion. (.Ties count as 1/3 of a win)

I’d have EPL have a 1 game playoff at the home field of the team with more points.
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June 28th, 2026 at 8:47:58 AM permalink
Get in price for Ecuador/Mexico match is over $2900. For the worst seat in the house.
It’s not ‘the people’s game’. It’s the uber-wealthy’s game.

Edit. Face value was just $105. So lots of ‘regular’ fans could get tickets. If you want a ticket now it’s ’rich Only’
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June 28th, 2026 at 9:55:39 AM permalink
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“when the NFL team locks up the number 3 seed and rests their starters”

Legit. It’s good coaching. Rest the best players and even prevent costly injuries. The opponents target the value players in that sort of games.

But in tournament soccer they do somethin illegal sometimes. The dreadful tie that qualifies both teams. there were a few matches in gameday #3. It is fixing. Illegal. FBI cases if the matches are played in USA. Euro 2024 had an even more defiant case. Portugal intentionally lost their match against Georgia to avoid Holland in playoffs (round of 16).

It is blatant but hard to prove legally. Impossible.
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It's not necessarily "fixing." Do you want to be the coach that has to explain to their country's fans, "Yes, it was a mistake to press for a meaningless goal that ended up resulting in our opponents catching us out of position and scoring the goal that knocked us out, when we could have just played for the draw to advance"?

The problem is, the way the competition is organized. If you want to prevent that sort of thing, pretty much the only way to do it is, only one team per round-robin group advances. Good luck getting anybody to agree to doing that. I remember when what is now the European Champions League was a single-elimination tournament.
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I agree, and there's nothing dishonorable about playing for a tie in events where ties count and are common. Soccer fans don't feel cheated when they see a tie. I'd worry a little more about it in gridiron football where OT is an oddity and a tie outcome is a rarity, rare enough that it could have the look of being an outcome that was planned from the beginning of the game.
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June 28th, 2026 at 2:44:43 PM permalink
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In 2010 Spain won the World Cup. They played a total of seven games and scored a total of eight goals in those seven games. What an exciting sport.
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June 28th, 2026 at 4:13:08 PM permalink
A 1-0 World Series game would be talked about forever, especially if it went to extra innings.
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June 28th, 2026 at 4:25:21 PM permalink
I like the FIFA World Cup format. Given that you organize a national team and travel thousands of miles to the host countries, I think its nice that every team gets to play in three Round 1 games spaced roughly a week apart - so they and their fans can have the experience of being in the World Cup. Sure there are some clunker games but the participation trophy is actually a valuable goal. After Round 1 it becomes single game knockout.

I have never liked the fact that 64 or more college teams wildly celebrate making the NCAA basketball tournament and then 32+ of those teams are eliminated from the tournament in the first 2 days. Its just so . . . dismissive.
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June 28th, 2026 at 4:45:50 PM permalink
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Shame! Matches in gameday #3 are fake. Both teams play for a tie to advance. Mockery of a competition. FIFA should find a way to avoid such situations. hit the cheaters with big fines.
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Cha Ching for those that took advantage of that knowledge.

Also, the teams not playing their best players! France did and Norway didn’t. The USA put in their scrubs against Turkey.

Expanding to 48 teams was only about $$$. 72 games to eliminate 16 bottom feeders. A zero-zero tie is considered a great result for many teams. Anyone taking Cape Verde over Argentina?

Fun fact. Praia is the capital of the small island nation. Only real ‘city’ (over 100k people) in Cape Verde. So you would expect it to have more players on the national team from there than any other city. You’d be wrong. There are six ROTTERDAM born players…. Only 4 from Praia….
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I assume your expanded pool objections also apply to NCAA D1 basketball, wild card MLB teams, the possible expansion of NCAA D1 football playoffs.
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Absolutely! The ‘devaluing’ of regular season play in most sports is the direction we have gone in.

You want to see an 83-79 Reds team in the playoffs?
We needed a 19-14 Vanderbilt team in the NCAA tourney?
The LA Kings went 35-47 this year. I need them to be in the playoffs?
Who was stoked to see the 37-45 Warriors after the regular season ended?
And the Panthers 8-9 mediocrity was a fine addition to the NFL playoffs.

SOOPOO solution.
NCAA tourney. 48 teams. Top 16 get byes
NHL. 8 teams
NBA. 8 teams
NFL. 8 teams
MLB. 8 teams
NCAAF 8 teams

For interest, the EPL has no playoff. You win the most games during the season, you are the champion. (.Ties count as 1/3 of a win)

I’d have EPL have a 1 game playoff at the home field of the team with more points.
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How would the sports make up for the lost revenue? The Mens NCAA hoops revenue pays for a lot of non-revenue sports.
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June 28th, 2026 at 11:31:46 PM permalink
Interesting discussion thread—lots of back-and-forth perspectives, which makes it a good example of how detailed and opinion-driven these forum conversations can get
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June 29th, 2026 at 2:23:10 AM permalink
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“when the NFL team locks up the number 3 seed and rests their starters”

Legit. It’s good coaching. Rest the best players and even prevent costly injuries. The opponents target the value players in that sort of games.

But in tournament soccer they do somethin illegal sometimes. The dreadful tie that qualifies both teams. there were a few matches in gameday #3. It is fixing. Illegal. FBI cases if the matches are played in USA. Euro 2024 had an even more defiant case. Portugal intentionally lost their match against Georgia to avoid Holland in playoffs (round of 16).

It is blatant but hard to prove legally. Impossible.
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It's not necessarily "fixing." Do you want to be the coach that has to explain to their country's fans, "Yes, it was a mistake to press for a meaningless goal that ended up resulting in our opponents catching us out of position and scoring the goal that knocked us out, when we could have just played for the draw to advance"?

The problem is, the way the competition is organized. If you want to prevent that sort of thing, pretty much the only way to do it is, only one team per round-robin group advances. Good luck getting anybody to agree to doing that. I remember when what is now the European Champions League was a single-elimination tournament.
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I agree, and there's nothing dishonorable about playing for a tie in events where ties count and are common. Soccer fans don't feel cheated when they see a tie. I'd worry a little more about it in gridiron football where OT is an oddity and a tie outcome is a rarity, rare enough that it could have the look of being an outcome that was planned from the beginning of the game.
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FIFA World Cup 2026 – the knockout phase started. Easy to see the difference on the pitch. The competition was real. Both Canada and SouthAfrika played as if there was no tomoz. Luckily the game didnt end in a penalty kick shootout.
When I said “fixing” it didnt imply “money”. It’s kinduv “a gentlemen’s crooked agreement”. Both teams tacitly agree on a draw without secret communication before the match. Everyone watching the game has a strong feeling itll end up in a tie. and it does 99% of the time.
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June 29th, 2026 at 3:29:31 AM permalink
Anybody check out how you would have done betting on draws on "both advance" games? This must be known to oddsmakers
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June 29th, 2026 at 4:20:52 AM permalink
Iran had a goal that would have put them through, disallowed on a technicality, but could still advance if the Algeria-Austria match ended in anything but a tie. That game was tied after regulation, but Algeria scored in added time. Never in the history of the Cup have both teams scored in OT, but that is what happened next, as Austria stormed down the pitch and scored as the ref was calling the game.
Tie game, both teams advance, Iran out.
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June 29th, 2026 at 5:24:47 AM permalink
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Anybody check out how you would have done betting on draws on "both advance" games? This must be known to oddsmakers
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I got these payouts for drwas in gameday #3 –
Japan - Sweden +250 (result 1-1)
Paraguay - Australia +230 (0-0)
Egypt - IR Iran +210 (1-1)
Colombia - Portugal +240 (0-0)
Algeria - Austria +230 (3-3)
Only Iran failed to advance.
Profit 1,160 for 100 bet. Nice.
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June 29th, 2026 at 5:27:31 AM permalink
I didn't know it was that easy!
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June 29th, 2026 at 5:37:24 AM permalink
The bookies kept it balanced. For example
Cape Verde - Saudi Arabia +163 +250 +185
The tie was the most attractive bet but not big diff from either victory. Saudi needed victory in this match tho. Cape Verde advanced with 3 ties! The luckiest qualifier.
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June 29th, 2026 at 6:06:04 AM permalink
Gameday #2 round of 32
The latest Brazil vs. Japan odds from FanDuel Sportsbook list Brazil at -145 (risk $145 to win $100) on the 90-minute money line, with Japan at +420 and a draw at +270.
Germany-Paraguay
Germany -300 (bet $300 to win $100) | Paraguay +775 (bet $100 to win $775) | Draw +425 (bet $100 to win $425) BetMGM Sportsbook Betting on Germany is not attractive at all; better draw 90 minutes.
Netherlands-Morocco +125 +200 +250; very close, but Morocco win would have been more attractive at +500.

Betano in Europe has quite different odds for Germany-Paraguay
-142 +355 +925
more attractive to bet on Germany; very attractive a bet Paraguay.
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June 29th, 2026 at 7:39:13 AM permalink
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A 1-0 World Series game would be talked about forever, especially if it went to extra innings.
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Really?. I have not heard anyone talking about the 1991 World Series game between the Twins and Braves that ended 1-0 in 10 innings
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June 29th, 2026 at 7:40:39 AM permalink
I just made my first World Cup bet. Mexico vs Ecuador over 1.5 goals.
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June 29th, 2026 at 8:25:04 AM permalink
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A 1-0 World Series game would be talked about forever, especially if it went to extra innings.
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Really?. I have not heard anyone talking about the 1991 World Series game between the Twins and Braves that ended 1-0 in 10 innings
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It's ranked fourth on MLB's list of ten greatest WS games.
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June 29th, 2026 at 9:08:31 AM permalink
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I just made my first World Cup bet. Mexico vs Ecuador over 1.5 goals.
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That looks to be a very exciting match.
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June 29th, 2026 at 9:18:11 AM permalink
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Anybody check out how you would have done betting on draws on "both advance" games? This must be known to oddsmakers
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I got these payouts for drwas in gameday #3 –
Japan - Sweden +250 (result 1-1)
Paraguay - Australia +230 (0-0)
Egypt - IR Iran +210 (1-1)
Colombia - Portugal +240 (0-0)
Algeria - Austria +230 (3-3)
Only Iran failed to advance.
Profit 1,160 for 100 bet. Nice.
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you averaged better than +1000 on odds you got I just realized
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June 29th, 2026 at 9:39:09 AM permalink
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Anybody check out how you would have done betting on draws on "both advance" games? This must be known to oddsmakers
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I got these payouts for drwas in gameday #3 –
Japan - Sweden +250 (result 1-1)
Paraguay - Australia +230 (0-0)
Egypt - IR Iran +210 (1-1)
Colombia - Portugal +240 (0-0)
Algeria - Austria +230 (3-3)
Only Iran failed to advance.
Profit 1,160 for 100 bet. Nice.
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you averaged better than +1000 on odds you got I just realized
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It’s Mdawgs odds. And he bet 100k chips.
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June 29th, 2026 at 7:17:12 PM permalink
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I like the FIFA World Cup format. Given that you organize a national team and travel thousands of miles to the host countries, I think its nice that every team gets to play in three Round 1 games spaced roughly a week apart - so they and their fans can have the experience of being in the World Cup. Sure there are some clunker games but the participation trophy is actually a valuable goal. After Round 1 it becomes single game knockout.
48 qualfiied for the W
I have never liked the fact that 64 or more college teams wildly celebrate making the NCAA basketball tournament and then 32+ of those teams are eliminated from the tournament in the first 2 days. Its just so . . . dismissive.
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It's not like national federations put a team together and just show up. There are 211 national associations in FIFA, and 48 qualified for the WC this year. That's not even a quarter of the nations. Teams earn the participation trophy.
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June 29th, 2026 at 7:18:51 PM permalink
Stolen from my cousin:

World Cup in America.
2 of the first 3 teams eliminated in the knockout round:
Japan and Germany.

These colors don’t run.
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June 30th, 2026 at 3:01:19 AM permalink
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Gameday #2 round of 32
The latest Brazil vs. Japan odds from FanDuel Sportsbook list Brazil at -145 (risk $145 to win $100) on the 90-minute money line, with Japan at +420 and a draw at +270.
Germany-Paraguay
Germany -300 (bet $300 to win $100) | Paraguay +775 (bet $100 to win $775) | Draw +425 (bet $100 to win $425) BetMGM Sportsbook Betting on Germany is not attractive at all; better draw 90 minutes.
Netherlands-Morocco +125 +200 +250; very close, but Morocco win would have been more attractive at +500.

Betano in Europe has quite different odds for Germany-Paraguay
-142 +355 +925
more attractive to bet on Germany; very attractive a bet Paraguay.
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“Betting on Germany is not attractive at all; better draw 90 minutes.”
+425 for 100.
Mdawg took my tip to the bank. And he always bets 100k chips. Did you think he would be grateful?
Netherlands-Morocco +125 +200 +250; very close, but Morocco win would have been more attractive at +500.
Another nice bet on a tie.
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June 30th, 2026 at 9:22:03 AM permalink
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I just made my first World Cup bet. Mexico vs Ecuador over 1.5 goals.
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That looks to be a very exciting match.
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I will definitely not be watching it. I don't know that I have ever watched a full soccer game.
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June 30th, 2026 at 10:29:36 AM permalink
You missed three very good games yesterday. Brazil won on a last-second goal while Paraguay turned a seeming defeat into victory with a dramatic last-minute goal to tie it. A Paraguayan player had a chance to win it for his team by simply making a penalty kick. After decoying the goal to the right, he had a wide-open goal and clanked his shot, missing horribly. Luckily, his teammate picked him up later in the shootout.
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June 30th, 2026 at 2:26:43 PM permalink
Yesterday afternoon, tickets for Match 89 were in high demand. France vs Germany would be one of the premier matchups of the tournament, with the cheapest tickets selling for over $3,000. Germany's loss has driven ticket prices down to under $1,000. If all the tickets drop in value like that, secondary sellers are looking at a near-billion-dollar loss.
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June 30th, 2026 at 5:54:55 PM permalink
France is the best team in the tournament. Mbappe is the best player. I like the chances of France champions/Mbappe Golden Boot.
Messi not bad, either.
Haaland can fill the net, but I expect t they lose next game.
Kane a live long shot.

I got in on stupid bet….. USA to beat England in WC final at + 17760.
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June 30th, 2026 at 6:03:00 PM permalink
I made two small bets.
1) The US advances at least as far as Mexico at even money
2) One of the three host countries makes the finals
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June 30th, 2026 at 7:59:45 PM permalink
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I just made my first World Cup bet. Mexico vs Ecuador over 1.5 goals.
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Thanks for the tip. The Mrs. and I are $1.30 richer — and it's only halftime! Shoulda, coulda, woulda bet the farm!
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July 1st, 2026 at 3:13:36 AM permalink
Mexico played amazingly for much of the first half, but as soon as they were up 2-0, they shut down the offense and played a tough defense.
Aztec Stadium offers a much better home-field advantage than any team left in the tournament.
This is the first match I really questioned the judging. It seemed that Mexico got every close call.
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July 1st, 2026 at 7:48:42 AM permalink
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I just made my first World Cup bet. Mexico vs Ecuador over 1.5 goals.
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Thanks for the tip. The Mrs. and I are $1.30 richer — and it's only halftime! Shoulda, coulda, woulda bet the farm!
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Please do not assume that my bets are good or reliable. My extensive soccer knowledge could be explained in a Haiku.
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July 1st, 2026 at 8:33:19 AM permalink
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I just made my first World Cup bet. Mexico vs Ecuador over 1.5 goals.
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Thanks for the tip. The Mrs. and I are $1.30 richer — and it's only halftime! Shoulda, coulda, woulda bet the farm!
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Please do not assume that my bets are good or reliable. My extensive soccer knowledge could be explained in a Haiku.
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It’s OK. We put down just $2. Figured it’s more entertaining to have community joy or sorrow.
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July 1st, 2026 at 9:34:55 AM permalink
There is an article pinned to my Yahoo front page about the lack of a water break in last night's Mexico-Colombia game. The article repeatedly mentions how Colombia was at a disadvantage at Azteca Stadium. It appears that the AP has done away with its fact-checkers.
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July 1st, 2026 at 2:51:34 PM permalink
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There is an article pinned to my Yahoo front page about the lack of a water break in last night's Mexico-Colombia game. The article repeatedly mentions how Colombia was at a disadvantage at Azteca Stadium. It appears that the AP has done away with its fact-checkers.
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Colombia was at the ultimate disadvantage. They weren’t even allowed to play. The cancellation of the water breaks tells you all you need to know about the reason they HAVE these ‘hydration breaks’. Due to the weather delay FIFA was able to fit in the ‘hydration break’ commercials before the game. Hence no need for a ‘hydration break’.
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July 1st, 2026 at 2:56:14 PM permalink
It wasn't fair to have 30 teams play quarters while 2 teams played halves, so ultimately Mexico and Ecuador were allowed hydration breaks. Colombia was not consulted.
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July 2nd, 2026 at 6:46:40 AM permalink
Heroic effort by the US team last night. After an utterly ridiculous red card, the Eagles were forced to play the last thirty-five minutes down a man. Not only did they survive, but they actually expanded their lead and will go into the round of 16 with a good deal of momentum.
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July 2nd, 2026 at 11:50:53 AM permalink
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Heroic effort by the US team last night. After an utterly ridiculous red card, the Eagles were forced to play the last thirty-five minutes down a man. Not only did they survive, but they actually expanded their lead and will go into the round of 16 with a good deal of momentum.
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Heroic? The USA beat the SIXTY FOURTH ranked country in the world. It is so small, it only houses a few more people than…. Brooklyn! And it was essentially a home game as well. Imagine if ‘Brooklyn’ had to play a road game against France in Paris? I’m not feeling a 2-0 win for France being called ‘heroic’.

As far as ‘momentum’, if you believe in such, it certainly would favor Belgium. They were down 2-0 with 5 minutes to go and won, and will have their top scorer on the field, not n the stands like the USA will.

All that factored in, the game is as 50-50 as can be.

GO USA!
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July 2nd, 2026 at 12:04:27 PM permalink
Not only was it the first time a US team had won a World Cup match while playing a man down for 30 minutes or more, but, according to Alexa, it's the first time any team has done it.

Looking at the list of teams in soccer tournaments that won while playing 11-10 for more than a few minutes shows how difficult it is.
One of the post-game announcers called their effort "herculean"; I'll go with heroic.
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July 2nd, 2026 at 1:48:34 PM permalink
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Heroic effort by the US team last night. After an utterly ridiculous red card, the Eagles were forced to play the last thirty-five minutes down a man. Not only did they survive, but they actually expanded their lead and will go into the round of 16 with a good deal of momentum.
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Heroic? The USA beat the SIXTY FOURTH ranked country in the world. It is so small, it only houses a few more people than…. Brooklyn! And it was essentially a home game as well. Imagine if ‘Brooklyn’ had to play a road game against France in Paris? I’m not feeling a 2-0 win for France being called ‘heroic’.

As far as ‘momentum’, if you believe in such, it certainly would favor Belgium. They were down 2-0 with 5 minutes to go and won, and will have their top scorer on the field, not n the stands like the USA will.

All that factored in, the game is as 50-50 as can be.

GO USA!
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Well, the 64th ranked team made it into the knockout round, when some higher ranked teams didn't.

As for momentum, Belgium had an exciting come from behind win, but if I were Belgium, I'd worry about why they were behind in the first place, while the US lead wire-to-wire.
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July 2nd, 2026 at 2:11:24 PM permalink
The red card was clearly a terrible mistake by the referee. The two players got their feet tied up and the off-balance Balogun stepped backwards (trying to tap the ball) without looking back and inadvertently stepped on the foot/ankle of the other player. There was no intent to foul. That does not merit a red card ejection and suspension for the next game.
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July 2nd, 2026 at 2:32:46 PM permalink
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The red card was clearly a terrible mistake by the referee. The two players got their feet tied up and the off-balance Balogun stepped backwards (trying to tap the ball) without looking back and inadvertently stepped on the foot/ankle of the other player. There was no intent to foul. That does not merit a red card ejection and suspension for the next game.
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Agree. Soccer yellow cards/red cards/‘verbal warnings’ are stupid. Water polo and hockey and lacrosse have it right. Timed penalties.

I think a red card should require bad intentions. Balogun just was trying to put his foot on the ground.

I also think carrying over a suspension to next round is stupid, especially for a once every four year tournament.
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July 2nd, 2026 at 2:37:49 PM permalink
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The red card was clearly a terrible mistake by the referee. The two players got their feet tied up and the off-balance Balogun stepped backwards (trying to tap the ball) without looking back and inadvertently stepped on the foot/ankle of the other player. There was no intent to foul. That does not merit a red card ejection and suspension for the next game.
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Agree. Soccer yellow cards/red cards/‘verbal warnings’ are stupid. Water polo and hockey and lacrosse have it right. Timed penalties.

I think a red card should require bad intentions. Balogun just was trying to put his foot on the ground.

I also think carrying over a suspension to next round is stupid, especially for a once every four year tournament.
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He's responsible to where his foot goes, intention or otherwise. Nobody else.

Carrying over the red card disincentives naughty behavior. Want to participate and play in a once-every-four-year tourny? Then be on your best behavior.
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