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June 19th, 2026 at 11:19:19 AM permalink
Lacrosse has long been an American Indian sport, and the way they play it gave it a reputation for being ridiculously violent. These games were once used as a proxy for warfare. The modern (male) version of it is still a bit rough.
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June 19th, 2026 at 12:42:39 PM permalink
While we discuss soccer in the US, be aware that the US had the first soccer association outside of the British Isles. Soccer has always had a presence in the US.
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June 20th, 2026 at 5:55:11 AM permalink
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Lacrosse was big in some areas, and still has a presence, because Gridiron Football was banned for high school sports for a while, New York state comes to mind. Soccer benefited too? Doesn't seem like it to me
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Is Lacrosse big anywhere besides the Northeast? I know many areas have club Lacrosse but do most high schools have Lacrosse anywhere besides the Northeast. When I was growing up in Ohio I knew one person that played it in high school. He went to a private school and I had never even heard of it before then.

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June 20th, 2026 at 6:38:25 AM permalink
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Lacrosse was big in some areas, and still has a presence, because Gridiron Football was banned for high school sports for a while, New York state comes to mind. Soccer benefited too? Doesn't seem like it to me
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Is Lacrosse big anywhere besides the Northeast? I know many areas have club Lacrosse but do most high schools have Lacrosse anywhere besides the Northeast. When I was growing up in Ohio I knew one person that played it in high school. He went to a private school and I had never even heard of it before then.

Go Crystal Mangum.
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Mostly the northeast. I don't know if any other states prohibited gridiron football for high school other than NY, which did for a while
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June 20th, 2026 at 6:40:37 AM permalink
Had to look Miss Magnum up. You rooted for her stuff?
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June 20th, 2026 at 8:05:41 AM permalink
Betting on Team USA was a safe bet. Not very high returns tho. With Paraguay -105. with Australia -127. Bet 232 to win 200. Still a win is a win. Probably many were betting 2320 to make 2000 profit. Aint bad tho.

But look at the cold Turkeys. They bet 1400+1000 and lost it all! Quite a few were thinking Turkey would win the USA group!

BTW – why doesn’t everybody here vote on a winner or more favorites? It costs nothing. just post your real bets, nobody would know about that.
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June 20th, 2026 at 8:31:26 AM permalink
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Betting on Team USA was a safe bet. Not very high returns tho. With Paraguay -105. with Australia -127. Bet 232 to win 200. Still a win is a win. Probably many were betting 2320 to make 2000 profit. Aint bad tho.

But look at the cold Turkeys. They bet 1400+1000 and lost it all! Quite a few were thinking Turkey would win the USA group!

BTW – why doesn’t everybody here vote on a winner or more favorites? It costs nothing. just post your real bets, nobody would know about that.
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There is no such thing as a safe bet in sports, its probabilistic rather than deterministic.

That said I agree with you the home teams are value propositions. Significant numbers of the foreign audience are not able to attend so home advantage is much stronger than it would be normally, with most of the seats filled by home nations. Most do not seem to be aware of how significant this is for betting purposes.

Whether any of the home nations are strong enough to beat the top nations is doubtful, but they are certainly value bets.
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June 20th, 2026 at 8:42:53 AM permalink
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Lacrosse was big in some areas, and still has a presence, because Gridiron Football was banned for high school sports for a while, New York state comes to mind. Soccer benefited too? Doesn't seem like it to me
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Is Lacrosse big anywhere besides the Northeast? I know many areas have club Lacrosse but do most high schools have Lacrosse anywhere besides the Northeast. When I was growing up in Ohio I knew one person that played it in high school. He went to a private school and I had never even heard of it before then.

Go Crystal Mangum.
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Mostly the northeast. I don't know if any other states prohibited gridiron football for high school other than NY, which did for a while
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That is twice you've said NY banned football. I don't see anything about that on the searches I've done. A league in NYC banned kickoffs but where did they ban football?
Arizona has a number of high schools that play lacrosse as a club, and it is thought that it's a few seasons from having Varsity teams.
Grand Canyon University has a great club team trying to gain NCAA recognition.
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June 20th, 2026 at 8:49:33 AM permalink
In East Tennessee some high schools have women's lacrosse. Not for men though.
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June 20th, 2026 at 8:52:24 AM permalink
While lacrosse has been popular on Long Island for generations, it was almost nonexistent next door in NYC. In 2005, a couple of Long Island guys began sponsoring lacrosse clinics in Queens, and over the last 20 years, 75 schools have fielded varsity teams, and a couple of dozen have club teams.
BTW- In a school system that graduates less than half its students, CITY LAX claims 99% of its athletes graduate.
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June 20th, 2026 at 10:03:42 AM permalink
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That is twice you've said NY banned football. I don't see anything about that on the searches I've done. A league in NYC banned kickoffs but where did they ban football?
Arizona has a number of high schools that play lacrosse as a club, and it is thought that it's a few seasons from having Varsity teams.
Grand Canyon University has a great club team trying to gain NCAA recognition.
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That was something I thought I learned.... maybe 50 years ago. Back then you had to size up your source and decide if it was believable. I clearly thought so, enough to not bother looking it up on the internet [which you can do now]
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June 20th, 2026 at 10:15:32 AM permalink
This is what I get now. Apologies. The Rochester thing may have been what led somebody to tell me a NY ban encouraged lacrosse in the state. It's behind a paywall so we don't know exactly the details

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/high-school/2024/11/27/football-was-banned-in-rochester-ny-for-several-seasons-heres-why/76568849007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=false&gca-epti=z1195xxe1195xxv000021&gca-ft=194&gca-ds=sophi

And I assume from time to time you see articles like the below

https://www.burnedbylax.com/post/why-transitioning-from-football-to-lacrosse-is-the-smartest-move-for-athletes
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June 20th, 2026 at 10:19:39 AM permalink
a Kansas City early 20th century ban

https://kchistory.org/blog/boy-killing-game-1905-football-ban .
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June 20th, 2026 at 10:41:38 AM permalink
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a Kansas City early 20th century ban

https://kchistory.org/blog/boy-killing-game-1905-football-ban .
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Congress almost banned college football after a number of prominent young men were killed or severely crippled, but Teddy Roosevelt held a summit that resulted in saner rules, including helmets. They banned the flying wedge, which was considered particularly violent.
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June 20th, 2026 at 11:42:06 AM permalink
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a Kansas City early 20th century ban

https://kchistory.org/blog/boy-killing-game-1905-football-ban .
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Congress almost banned college football after a number of prominent young men were killed or severely crippled, but Teddy Roosevelt held a summit that resulted in saner rules, including helmets. They banned the flying wedge, which was considered particularly violent.
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Related to the origin of flag football. That was military, because no tackle football was allowed on base. You know the rule- no getting hurt or killed until they tell you to! (At least for the enlisted- they still played throughout the wars at the academies.)

Has anyone tried a flying half-wedge, where the carrier goes down the sideline with an angled formation alongside him? That seems like it would be even more effective, and also circumvent the rule against the flying wedge.
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June 21st, 2026 at 3:38:12 AM permalink
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Betting on Team USA was a safe bet. Not very high returns tho. With Paraguay -105. with Australia -127. Bet 232 to win 200. Still a win is a win. Probably many were betting 2320 to make 2000 profit. Aint bad tho.

But look at the cold Turkeys. They bet 1400+1000 and lost it all! Quite a few were thinking Turkey would win the USA group!

BTW – why doesn’t everybody here vote on a winner or more favorites? It costs nothing. just post your real bets, nobody would know about that.
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Why would so many deviate so much from the subject on hand? It’s too much beer, I guess. Lacrosse and football proper> You gotta be drunk!
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June 21st, 2026 at 3:41:51 AM permalink
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Betting on Team USA was a safe bet. Not very high returns tho. With Paraguay -105. with Australia -127. Bet 232 to win 200. Still a win is a win. Probably many were betting 2320 to make 2000 profit. Aint bad tho.

But look at the cold Turkeys. They bet 1400+1000 and lost it all! Quite a few were thinking Turkey would win the USA group!

BTW – why doesn’t everybody here vote on a winner or more favorites? It costs nothing. just post your real bets, nobody would know about that.
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There is no such thing as a safe bet in sports, its probabilistic rather than deterministic.

That said I agree with you the home teams are value propositions. Significant numbers of the foreign audience are not able to attend so home advantage is much stronger than it would be normally, with most of the seats filled by home nations. Most do not seem to be aware of how significant this is for betting purposes.

Whether any of the home nations are strong enough to beat the top nations is doubtful, but they are certainly value bets.
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Out of the 6 games played by the home teams, 5 were successful bets. Only Canada half-stumbled against Bosnia. But things will get tougher later on when the homies will face the super powers of football proper. I did bet on USA and one on Mexico tho. The payouts would be phantastic. Over 5000 for 100+100 if either one wins it all.
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June 21st, 2026 at 4:37:54 AM permalink
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BTW – why doesn’t everybody here vote on a winner or more favorites?
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If you like following betting that is -EV, there are threads at Reddit and so on. You'll see a lot of bragging about their great payoffs and a bit of whining sometimes about somebody who loses all the time. Not for me.

This site when discussing gambling is largely, OK not entirely, but largely about Advantage Play. For mathematical reasons, favorites are seldom the right choice to take advantage of +EV offers.
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June 21st, 2026 at 7:54:07 AM permalink
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BTW – why doesn’t everybody here vote on a winner or more favorites?
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If you like following betting that is -EV, there are threads at Reddit and so on. You'll see a lot of bragging about their great payoffs and a bit of whining sometimes about somebody who loses all the time. Not for me.

This site when discussing gambling is largely, OK not entirely, but largely about Advantage Play. For mathematical reasons, favorites are seldom the right choice to take advantage of +EV offers.
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Is 5 out of 6 winning bets +EV? What is “advantage play” anyway? Are you an advantage player or just a bragger on redit as per your say? Meanwhile the 5 of 6 winners are facts. Look at the score sheets!
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June 21st, 2026 at 9:36:02 AM permalink
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Quote: odiousgambit

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BTW – why doesn’t everybody here vote on a winner or more favorites?
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If you like following betting that is -EV, there are threads at Reddit and so on. You'll see a lot of bragging about their great payoffs and a bit of whining sometimes about somebody who loses all the time. Not for me.

This site when discussing gambling is largely, OK not entirely, but largely about Advantage Play. For mathematical reasons, favorites are seldom the right choice to take advantage of +EV offers.
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Is 5 out of 6 winning bets +EV?

knowing in advance that 5/6 would be winners would be +EV, and what did they pay? If only 3 of the 6 won, your bankroll presumably shrank. Maybe if 4 of the 6 won, it shrunk. You can check that out.
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What is “advantage play” anyway? Are you an advantage player or just a bragger on redit as per your say? Meanwhile the 5 of 6 winners are facts. Look at the score sheets!
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I only brag if I followed the math and it paid off. If you stick around here, you will learn what an advantage player is. And Wikipedia has a page
"Unlike cheating, which is by definition illegal, advantage play exploits innate characteristics of a particular game to give the player an advantage relative to the house or other players"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advantage_gambling .
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June 21st, 2026 at 10:03:49 AM permalink
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Quote: toolyp

Quote: odiousgambit

Quote: toolyp


BTW – why doesn’t everybody here vote on a winner or more favorites?
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If you like following betting that is -EV, there are threads at Reddit and so on. You'll see a lot of bragging about their great payoffs and a bit of whining sometimes about somebody who loses all the time. Not for me.

This site when discussing gambling is largely, OK not entirely, but largely about Advantage Play. For mathematical reasons, favorites are seldom the right choice to take advantage of +EV offers.
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Is 5 out of 6 winning bets +EV?

knowing in advance that 5/6 would be winners would be +EV, and what did they pay? If only 3 of the 6 won, your bankroll presumably shrank. Maybe if 4 of the 6 won, it shrunk. You can check that out.
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What is “advantage play” anyway? Are you an advantage player or just a bragger on redit as per your say? Meanwhile the 5 of 6 winners are facts. Look at the score sheets!
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I only brag if I followed the math and it paid off. If you stick around here, you will learn what an advantage player is. And Wikipedia has a page
"Unlike cheating, which is by definition illegal, advantage play exploits innate characteristics of a particular game to give the player an advantage relative to the house or other players"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advantage_gambling .
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“you will learn what an advantage player is”
What is? If you knew you’d say. Are you one? Is it a poker player? All of them lost it all at one time or another. it's a quote from a good movie I just watched the past couple of hours. Rounders, starrin Matt Damon and Edward Norton.
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Uh... well, invincible ignorance is a thing
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June 21st, 2026 at 11:36:39 AM permalink
If you needed another reason to hate soccer- there is a rule where you get ejected from a game if you cover your mouth when speaking to another player.

https://www.foxnews.com/outkick-sports/paraguays-miguel-almiron-first-player-ejected-fifa-mouth-covering-rule-world-cup

Now you know why they're covering their mouths. They're cursing. By covering their mouths, two adversaries can share a FU without the people in the stands getting it, or the officials thinking you're directing that towards them, and most importantly in this age of recordings and HDTV, a billion people watching don't have to be insulted too when they see your top teeth hooking over your lower lip, unmistakably pronouncing a certain consonant.

Covering their mouths for foul language should be required, not forbidden. Yankee pitcher Andy Pettitte, when he would throw a bad pitch sometimes you'd see his glove go up to his mouth and I've seen other players do that too. His family is watching; he tells his kids not to say that but then they see that he's saying it? Better to direct that language into your own hand than anywhere else.

But apparently the soccer Euros think punishing someone for what they say is more important than ensuring no one other than the intended recipient hears it. That means they're not really concerned about people being offended by the language, but they might want power over the players and to be able to influence outcomes.
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June 21st, 2026 at 1:25:16 PM permalink
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If you needed another reason to hate soccer- there is a rule where you get ejected from a game if you cover your mouth when speaking to another player.

https://www.foxnews.com/outkick-sports/paraguays-miguel-almiron-first-player-ejected-fifa-mouth-covering-rule-world-cup

Now you know why they're covering their mouths. They're cursing. By covering their mouths, two adversaries can share a FU without the people in the stands getting it, or the officials thinking you're directing that towards them, and most importantly in this age of recordings and HDTV, a billion people watching don't have to be insulted too when they see your top teeth hooking over your lower lip, unmistakably pronouncing a certain consonant.

Covering their mouths for foul language should be required, not forbidden. Yankee pitcher Andy Pettitte, when he would throw a bad pitch sometimes you'd see his glove go up to his mouth and I've seen other players do that too. His family is watching; he tells his kids not to say that but then they see that he's saying it? Better to direct that language into your own hand than anywhere else.

But apparently the soccer Euros think punishing someone for what they say is more important than ensuring no one other than the intended recipient hears it. That means they're not really concerned about people being offended by the language, but they might want power over the players and to be able to influence outcomes.
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Rule against covering the mouth is in place to combat racist abuse by players to opposing players. If one has something so say, say it openly...and suffer consequences.
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June 21st, 2026 at 1:40:40 PM permalink
I don't watch the sport, but I reserve the right to complain about it, especially the parts I don't understand.
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June 21st, 2026 at 1:44:03 PM permalink
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If you needed another reason to hate soccer- there is a rule where you get ejected from a game if you cover your mouth when speaking to another player.

https://www.foxnews.com/outkick-sports/paraguays-miguel-almiron-first-player-ejected-fifa-mouth-covering-rule-world-cup

Now you know why they're covering their mouths. They're cursing. By covering their mouths, two adversaries can share a FU without the people in the stands getting it, or the officials thinking you're directing that towards them, and most importantly in this age of recordings and HDTV, a billion people watching don't have to be insulted too when they see your top teeth hooking over your lower lip, unmistakably pronouncing a certain consonant.

Covering their mouths for foul language should be required, not forbidden. Yankee pitcher Andy Pettitte, when he would throw a bad pitch sometimes you'd see his glove go up to his mouth and I've seen other players do that too. His family is watching; he tells his kids not to say that but then they see that he's saying it? Better to direct that language into your own hand than anywhere else.

But apparently the soccer Euros think punishing someone for what they say is more important than ensuring no one other than the intended recipient hears it. That means they're not really concerned about people being offended by the language, but they might want power over the players and to be able to influence outcomes.
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Rule against covering the mouth is in place to combat racist abuse by players to opposing players. If one has something so say, say it openly...and suffer consequences.
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Oh, so it's better to have the entire stadium and TV audience exposed to the racist abuse than just one individual! Makes perfect sense!

Back when I played stuff a typical exchange would be one player speculating about the sexual preference of another, who would respond to the effect of perhaps that's how you see me, but your mother and sister have a different perspective, and back and forth like that until a coach or official tells you "Shut up" and then you shut up. The locker room has a vernacular, and that's OK but it's probably best to keep those exchanges between peers.

I abhor rules like this because they're arbitrary and allow officials to use too much non-sports-related judgment to make the call. A ref could be unusually sensitive about language, or might think the word is funny and not recognize it as unacceptable, or being a lot of different languages are being spoken out there he might not understand the true intent and implications of the word, or whether or not it is considered offensive by the people who use it. But if that ref also happens to be a betting man, he now has an additional tool he can use for his side business and kick a star out of a game based on a word that he is the only one claiming he heard.
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June 21st, 2026 at 1:54:44 PM permalink
Perhaps the players could grow up and not pull stunts that get them kicked out of games. When a player is ejected, doesn't that mean his team plays a man short the rest of the game? I'm sure he'll get a hero's welcome when he gets home. Hopefully not the reception Andres Escobar got in the 94 tourney.
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June 21st, 2026 at 2:11:44 PM permalink
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Perhaps the players could grow up and not pull stunts that get them kicked out of games. When a player is ejected, doesn't that mean his team plays a man short the rest of the game? I'm sure he'll get a hero's welcome when he gets home. Hopefully not the reception Andres Escobar got in the 94 tourney.
Professional players should conduct themselves professionally, especially when representing their nation on the world stage.
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I'll be a hypocrite and agree with you! Sure I want to see them act like professionals, but sports lore is full of entertaining stories where they didn't and we like that too.
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June 21st, 2026 at 2:25:55 PM permalink
Don't do anything dumb that will get you thrown out of the game and cause your team to lose. It's not a tough standard to try to live up to.
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June 21st, 2026 at 2:58:44 PM permalink
If I'm reading things correctly, there is a possibility the US will play Iran in the Quarter Finals if both continue to advance.
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June 24th, 2026 at 2:20:32 AM permalink
Just about everything is a record in this WC 2026. Number of teams, number of games, number of players, number of goals, number of yellow and red cards…

Not to mention these two “goats”, Messi and Ronaldo. “The youngest and the oldest to score at a WC”; “Most consecutive World Cups”; “Goals in every and almost-every WC”… “The oldest to get fouled earliest in the game”; “The oldest to foul earliest in the match”…

Disgusting!!!
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June 24th, 2026 at 5:32:26 AM permalink
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If I'm reading things correctly, there is a possibility the US will play Iran in the Quarter Finals if both continue to advance.
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It happened before, in the group stage, WC France 1998. IR Iran (!) won 2-1. The moment I thought soccer collapsed irrecuperably in the USA.

BTW - I forgot to ask - any relation to Bill Ryan of CBS sports fame?
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Just about everything is a record in this WC 2026. Number of teams, number of games, number of players, number of goals, number of yellow and red cards…

Not to mention these two “goats”, Messi and Ronaldo. “The youngest and the oldest to score at a WC”; “Most consecutive World Cups”; “Goals in every and almost-every WC”… “The oldest to get fouled earliest in the game”; “The oldest to foul earliest in the match”…

Disgusting!!!
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They did ask the coach of the Iranian soccer team which of his players he thought was the GOAT.

He said "That is a private matter, but when traveling I believe they all take turns."
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June 24th, 2026 at 12:29:12 PM permalink
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Just about everything is a record in this WC 2026. Number of teams, number of games, number of players, number of goals, number of yellow and red cards…

Not to mention these two “goats”, Messi and Ronaldo. “The youngest and the oldest to score at a WC”; “Most consecutive World Cups”; “Goals in every and almost-every WC”… “The oldest to get fouled earliest in the game”; “The oldest to foul earliest in the match”…

Disgusting!!!
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They did ask the coach of the Iranian soccer team which of his players he thought was the GOAT.

He said "That is a private matter, but when traveling I believe they all take turns."
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Are you willing to explain the meaning of this joke openly here?
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June 25th, 2026 at 4:42:42 AM permalink
Quote: AutomaticMonkey

Quote: toolyp

Just about everything is a record in this WC 2026. Number of teams, number of games, number of players, number of goals, number of yellow and red cards…

Not to mention these two “goats”, Messi and Ronaldo. “The youngest and the oldest to score at a WC”; “Most consecutive World Cups”; “Goals in every and almost-every WC”… “The oldest to get fouled earliest in the game”; “The oldest to foul earliest in the match”…

Disgusting!!!
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They did ask the coach of the Iranian soccer team which of his players he thought was the GOAT.

He said "That is a private matter, but when traveling I believe they all take turns."
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Post of the year.

Organizers got what they wanted. No major power eliminated yet. USA, Mexico, Canada all advance. Positive press generally outweighing negative press. Quality of play pretty good, even from the ‘bad’ teams. No major ‘security’ type incident.

Funny fact. Canada denies higher percentage of visa applications to attend this WC than the US! You’d think that would be BIG news but doesn’t fit any predetermined media narrative so getting little coverage…
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June 25th, 2026 at 8:50:50 AM permalink
Japan-Sweden tonight.

Japan needs only to tie to advance. Sweden must win.

Watch party in Japantown tonight. Want to bet on Japan because it’d be more fun. Hedge bet and put some money on tie? Break one of the Wizard’s gambling commandments?!
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June 25th, 2026 at 8:54:26 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: AutomaticMonkey

Quote: toolyp

Just about everything is a record in this WC 2026. Number of teams, number of games, number of players, number of goals, number of yellow and red cards…

Not to mention these two “goats”, Messi and Ronaldo. “The youngest and the oldest to score at a WC”; “Most consecutive World Cups”; “Goals in every and almost-every WC”… “The oldest to get fouled earliest in the game”; “The oldest to foul earliest in the match”…

Disgusting!!!
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They did ask the coach of the Iranian soccer team which of his players he thought was the GOAT.

He said "That is a private matter, but when traveling I believe they all take turns."
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Post of the year.

Organizers got what they wanted. No major power eliminated yet. USA, Mexico, Canada all advance. Positive press generally outweighing negative press. Quality of play pretty good, even from the ‘bad’ teams. No major ‘security’ type incident.

Funny fact. Canada denies higher percentage of visa applications to attend this WC than the US! You’d think that would be BIG news but doesn’t fit any predetermined media narrative so getting little coverage…
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Never change, SooPoo. You are nothing if not predictable.

If your funny fact isn't big news, how did you hear of it? And Canada isn't the US,
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June 25th, 2026 at 12:52:58 PM permalink
I don't remember them playing as many night games the last time the WC was here.
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June 25th, 2026 at 1:15:18 PM permalink
Quote: GenoDRPh

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: AutomaticMonkey

Quote: toolyp

Just about everything is a record in this WC 2026. Number of teams, number of games, number of players, number of goals, number of yellow and red cards…

Not to mention these two “goats”, Messi and Ronaldo. “The youngest and the oldest to score at a WC”; “Most consecutive World Cups”; “Goals in every and almost-every WC”… “The oldest to get fouled earliest in the game”; “The oldest to foul earliest in the match”…

Disgusting!!!
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They did ask the coach of the Iranian soccer team which of his players he thought was the GOAT.

He said "That is a private matter, but when traveling I believe they all take turns."
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Post of the year.

Organizers got what they wanted. No major power eliminated yet. USA, Mexico, Canada all advance. Positive press generally outweighing negative press. Quality of play pretty good, even from the ‘bad’ teams. No major ‘security’ type incident.

Funny fact. Canada denies higher percentage of visa applications to attend this WC than the US! You’d think that would be BIG news but doesn’t fit any predetermined media narrative so getting little coverage…
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Never change, SooPoo. You are nothing if not predictable.

If your funny fact isn't big news, how did you hear of it? And Canada isn't the US,
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Through an outlet that covers little news?
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June 25th, 2026 at 6:39:58 PM permalink
Quote: rainman

Quote: GenoDRPh

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: AutomaticMonkey

Quote: toolyp

Just about everything is a record in this WC 2026. Number of teams, number of games, number of players, number of goals, number of yellow and red cards…

Not to mention these two “goats”, Messi and Ronaldo. “The youngest and the oldest to score at a WC”; “Most consecutive World Cups”; “Goals in every and almost-every WC”… “The oldest to get fouled earliest in the game”; “The oldest to foul earliest in the match”…

Disgusting!!!
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They did ask the coach of the Iranian soccer team which of his players he thought was the GOAT.

He said "That is a private matter, but when traveling I believe they all take turns."
link to original post



Post of the year.

Organizers got what they wanted. No major power eliminated yet. USA, Mexico, Canada all advance. Positive press generally outweighing negative press. Quality of play pretty good, even from the ‘bad’ teams. No major ‘security’ type incident.

Funny fact. Canada denies higher percentage of visa applications to attend this WC than the US! You’d think that would be BIG news but doesn’t fit any predetermined media narrative so getting little coverage…
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Never change, SooPoo. You are nothing if not predictable.

If your funny fact isn't big news, how did you hear of it? And Canada isn't the US,
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Through an outlet that covers little news?
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Leading up to the WC there was article after article describing how difficult the US is making it for the visitors from the WC countries to get in here. Not a peep about Canada. Until this one article that mentioned it a day or so ago.
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June 26th, 2026 at 4:34:17 AM permalink
Quote: GenoDRPh

Quote: AutomaticMonkey

Quote: toolyp

Just about everything is a record in this WC 2026. Number of teams, number of games, number of players, number of goals, number of yellow and red cards…

Not to mention these two “goats”, Messi and Ronaldo. “The youngest and the oldest to score at a WC”; “Most consecutive World Cups”; “Goals in every and almost-every WC”… “The oldest to get fouled earliest in the game”; “The oldest to foul earliest in the match”…

Disgusting!!!
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They did ask the coach of the Iranian soccer team which of his players he thought was the GOAT.

He said "That is a private matter, but when traveling I believe they all take turns."
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Are you willing to explain the meaning of this joke openly here?
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I f the coach is supposed to be revealing that he took GOAT to mean the animal, an abused one, and a player being one as substitute, then this is funny indeed
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June 26th, 2026 at 11:39:21 AM permalink
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Japan-Sweden tonight.

Japan needs only to tie to advance. Sweden must win.

Watch party in Japantown tonight. Want to bet on Japan because it’d be more fun. Hedge bet and put some money on tie? Break one of the Wizard’s gambling commandments?!
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So the Mrs. bet $5 on tie, and I put in $3 for a Japan win, so for-the-win was the hedge bet! So combined we won $9.

Also it turned out that both I and Sweden's star player didn't know that a tie would get Sweden into the knockout round!
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Shame! Matches in gameday #3 are fake. Both teams play for a tie to advance. Mockery of a competition. FIFA should find a way to avoid such situations. hit the cheaters with big fines.
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June 27th, 2026 at 3:42:29 AM permalink
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Shame! Matches in gameday #3 are fake. Both teams play for a tie to advance. Mockery of a competition. FIFA should find a way to avoid such situations. hit the cheaters with big fines.
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Cha Ching for those that took advantage of that knowledge.

Also, the teams not playing their best players! France did and Norway didn’t. The USA put in their scrubs against Turkey.

Expanding to 48 teams was only about $$$. 72 games to eliminate 16 bottom feeders. A zero-zero tie is considered a great result for many teams. Anyone taking Cape Verde over Argentina?

Fun fact. Praia is the capital of the small island nation. Only real ‘city’ (over 100k people) in Cape Verde. So you would expect it to have more players on the national team from there than any other city. You’d be wrong. There are six ROTTERDAM born players…. Only 4 from Praia….
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June 27th, 2026 at 4:53:33 AM permalink
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Shame! Matches in gameday #3 are fake. Both teams play for a tie to advance. Mockery of a competition. FIFA should find a way to avoid such situations. hit the cheaters with big fines.
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Cha Ching for those that took advantage of that knowledge.

Also, the teams not playing their best players! France did and Norway didn’t. The USA put in their scrubs against Turkey.

Expanding to 48 teams was only about $$$. 72 games to eliminate 16 bottom feeders. A zero-zero tie is considered a great result for many teams. Anyone taking Cape Verde over Argentina?

Fun fact. Praia is the capital of the small island nation. Only real ‘city’ (over 100k people) in Cape Verde. So you would expect it to have more players on the national team from there than any other city. You’d be wrong. There are six ROTTERDAM born players…. Only 4 from Praia….
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How many American players come from NYC?
Teams aren't nominated for the WC; they earn their way in. If Cape Verde plays better than bigger countries, they earn their way into the tournament.
Does anyone think Hofstra has a chance to win the NCAA men's hoop title, but they still get excited when they make the tournament?
The fans of those 16 extra nations don't care that the tournament is watered down. They care they made the trip..
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June 27th, 2026 at 5:32:57 AM permalink
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Shame! Matches in gameday #3 are fake. Both teams play for a tie to advance. Mockery of a competition. FIFA should find a way to avoid such situations. hit the cheaters with big fines.
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Cha Ching for those that took advantage of that knowledge.

Also, the teams not playing their best players! France did and Norway didn’t. The USA put in their scrubs against Turkey.

Expanding to 48 teams was only about $$$. 72 games to eliminate 16 bottom feeders. A zero-zero tie is considered a great result for many teams. Anyone taking Cape Verde over Argentina?

Fun fact. Praia is the capital of the small island nation. Only real ‘city’ (over 100k people) in Cape Verde. So you would expect it to have more players on the national team from there than any other city. You’d be wrong. There are six ROTTERDAM born players…. Only 4 from Praia….
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“Cha Ching for those that took advantage of that knowledge.”
The bookies lowered the payouts by a lot tho. WC Qatar 2022 paid huge for upsets like Saudi beating Argentina or Japan beating Germany. somethin like 25 to 1. Now they paid like 4 to 1 for Ecuador beating Germany.
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June 27th, 2026 at 8:20:09 AM permalink
The signage around Philly advises us to expect traffic delays due to tonight's game.

Prime understatement, that.
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June 27th, 2026 at 4:08:36 PM permalink
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Shame! Matches in gameday #3 are fake. Both teams play for a tie to advance. Mockery of a competition. FIFA should find a way to avoid such situations. hit the cheaters with big fines.
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Cha Ching for those that took advantage of that knowledge.

Also, the teams not playing their best players! France did and Norway didn’t. The USA put in their scrubs against Turkey.

Expanding to 48 teams was only about $$$. 72 games to eliminate 16 bottom feeders. A zero-zero tie is considered a great result for many teams. Anyone taking Cape Verde over Argentina?

Fun fact. Praia is the capital of the small island nation. Only real ‘city’ (over 100k people) in Cape Verde. So you would expect it to have more players on the national team from there than any other city. You’d be wrong. There are six ROTTERDAM born players…. Only 4 from Praia….
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No different than when a MLB teams sets their rotation after making the playoffs and rosters expand to 40 players. No different than when a NFL coach pulls his starters after making the playoffs. WC teams played their best players in the early games, which is why they won and qualified for the knock-out rounds with 1 or 2 games left to play. Win early, make the knock out rounds, rest the key players for health and/or yellow card reasons and go in to the next round fully loaded and ready to go. As a fan, I'd rather see my team win early and make the playoffs than have them struggle and press to have to win game 4 to earn the last seed. The teams earned the right to rest their starters. As for the ticket buying fan, they bought tickets to see their team compete, not to see any one player or players.

I assume your expanded pool objections also apply to NCAA D1 basketball, wild card MLB teams, the possible expansion of NCAA D1 football playoffs.
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June 27th, 2026 at 4:42:47 PM permalink
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Shame! Matches in gameday #3 are fake. Both teams play for a tie to advance. Mockery of a competition. FIFA should find a way to avoid such situations. hit the cheaters with big fines.
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Cha Ching for those that took advantage of that knowledge.

Also, the teams not playing their best players! France did and Norway didn’t. The USA put in their scrubs against Turkey.

Expanding to 48 teams was only about $$$. 72 games to eliminate 16 bottom feeders. A zero-zero tie is considered a great result for many teams. Anyone taking Cape Verde over Argentina?

Fun fact. Praia is the capital of the small island nation. Only real ‘city’ (over 100k people) in Cape Verde. So you would expect it to have more players on the national team from there than any other city. You’d be wrong. There are six ROTTERDAM born players…. Only 4 from Praia….
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Interesting fact: There are weekly direct flights between Providence Rhode Island and Praia Cape Verde.
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June 27th, 2026 at 4:51:25 PM permalink
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Shame! Matches in gameday #3 are fake. Both teams play for a tie to advance. Mockery of a competition. FIFA should find a way to avoid such situations. hit the cheaters with big fines.
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Cha Ching for those that took advantage of that knowledge.

Also, the teams not playing their best players! France did and Norway didn’t. The USA put in their scrubs against Turkey.

Expanding to 48 teams was only about $$$. 72 games to eliminate 16 bottom feeders. A zero-zero tie is considered a great result for many teams. Anyone taking Cape Verde over Argentina?

Fun fact. Praia is the capital of the small island nation. Only real ‘city’ (over 100k people) in Cape Verde. So you would expect it to have more players on the national team from there than any other city. You’d be wrong. There are six ROTTERDAM born players…. Only 4 from Praia….
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No different than when a MLB teams sets their rotation after making the playoffs and rosters expand to 40 players. No different than when a NFL coach pulls his starters after making the playoffs. WC teams played their best players in the early games, which is why they won and qualified for the knock-out rounds with 1 or 2 games left to play. Win early, make the knock out rounds, rest the key players for health and/or yellow card reasons and go in to the next round fully loaded and ready to go. As a fan, I'd rather see my team win early and make the playoffs than have them struggle and press to have to win game 4 to earn the last seed. The teams earned the right to rest their starters. As for the ticket buying fan, they bought tickets to see their team compete, not to see any one player or players.

I assume your expanded pool objections also apply to NCAA D1 basketball, wild card MLB teams, the possible expansion of NCAA D1 football playoffs.
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One big difference is that people are paying playoff prices for the tickets, and a non-base television audience is watching what is advertised as the world's best.
I'd argue the fans bought tickets to see the team that won its way into the tournament, not their understudies.
In any event, we are now in the knockout stage so its pedal to the medal from here on out.
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