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January 11th, 2023 at 8:26:18 AM permalink
Are the $50 and $100 min max bets quoted on a “to risk” or “to win” basis? Or is it a mix many sports books that + money is a “to risk” and - money is “to win”?

In other words, for a -110 line is my min beg $50 to win $45.45 or $55 to win $50. And max bet is $100 to win $90.90 or $110 to win $100?
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January 11th, 2023 at 9:05:42 AM permalink
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I expect to end up south of the Mendoza Line.
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Sadly, my batting average was always south of the Mendoza line.
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January 11th, 2023 at 9:42:30 AM permalink
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Ugggh. NFL Wild Card games are notoriously difficult to pick. And two of the games have major QB uncertainties (Tua and Lamar). And we have a new contest structure and rules that none of us has experience with (and praise for Mission for conjuring up such an interesting structure.)

And, in this contest, the formidable Johnzimbo will be playing to win, not to lose. Miplet and EdCollins are blue-chip pickers who surely can't run bad forever. I'm also worried about that group of pickers that finished 2nd through 6th in the previous contest : VegasBrent, IndyJeffrey, FourFiveFace, Jim Rockford and PlayYourCardsRight- IMO, those guys have game. Wizard can't be counted out because he has probably won more of the forum's NFL picks contests than anyone. And, KSDJDJ and SOOPOO are experienced sports gamblers who know what they are doing and may be about to give the rest of us a lesson.

And the pattern of history is that darkhorse contestants often emerge as the front-runner and eventual contest winner.

For myself, I predict: PAIN.
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Thank you for the compliment; although, I'd prefer it be complementary this time, but you're probably going to win my money again. JK

I just hope that I didn't miss any loopholes, but I trust that, even if I did, everyone will play this contest (which does have totally new rules) within the spirit of the rules.

On that note, would you mind if I PM you my Picks? You don't have to open them and can even delete the PM's a week or so after the contest, but the timestamp will prove that I submitted my Picks to you prior to looking at anyone else's Picks, if necessary.
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January 11th, 2023 at 9:44:14 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

I expect to end up south of the Mendoza Line.
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Just make sure your passport is current before you go; I hear getting back into .200 country can be a pain, if not.
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January 11th, 2023 at 9:45:48 AM permalink
Quote: unJon

Are the $50 and $100 min max bets quoted on a “to risk” or “to win” basis? Or is it a mix many sports books that + money is a “to risk” and - money is “to win”?

In other words, for a -110 line is my min beg $50 to win $45.45 or $55 to win $50. And max bet is $100 to win $90.90 or $110 to win $100?
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The betting requirements are based entirely on risk, not amount to be won. I suspect you knew this answer and wanted to get written clarification as to this potential oversight on my part without causing me undue humiliation; you're a sly one, unJon, I don't care what DRich says about you. JK

If you're well in the lead and want to play it safe with a -1000 LINE in the Super Bowl, you can...although a little birdie told me there aren't going to be any minus lines for the Super Bowl other than regular game lines.
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January 11th, 2023 at 1:10:44 PM permalink
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On that note, would you mind if I PM you my Picks? You don't have to open them and can even delete the PM's a week or so after the contest, but the timestamp will prove that I submitted my Picks to you prior to looking at anyone else's Picks, if necessary.
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Of course, I would be happy to help in that way, no problem. And good luck to you, I'm very glad you're playing.
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January 12th, 2023 at 7:21:26 AM permalink
Hey Mission, despite your well-worded rules, I have a question clarification.

Assume it's next week, the Divisional Round. Assume a player lost $370 during Wildcard weekend and thus only has $130 left.

One of the contest rules says that a player's minimum bet for this week is $50. Another rule says that at least three bets must be made this Divisional Playoff weekend.

For this player with just $130 left, he obviously can't satisfy both rules. So which rule takes precedent?

The three-bet minimum takes precedent, correct? This player must three bets. (Say, $50-$50-$30 or $55-$60-$15 or maybe $50-$70-$10.) He isn't allowed to make, say, one bet of $130 or two bets, of say, $100-$30.

If a player can't satisfy both criteria, he must do his best to first satisfy the three-bet minimum requirement, correct?

Or no?
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January 12th, 2023 at 7:32:58 AM permalink
2e.) All players will make no fewer than three bets in the Divisional Round of the Playoffs. (However, if it is only possible to make two-$$$-that is permitted)

I took this rule to mean that due to insufficient funds to make a $50 bet, a player can 2 bets.

With $130 left in the example, a player would have to use amounts to maximize the number of bets they make. So, a player can't make a $100 bet and say they can't make anymore due to having only $30 left.

That's how I read it, anyway.
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January 12th, 2023 at 7:38:14 AM permalink
Quote: Vegasbrent

That's how I read it, anyway.

Yea... that's how I read it too. Just wanted a clarification.

Mission, if a player makes this (honest) mistake, he's instantly disqualified?

It wouldn't surprise me if, with this new format, if one or more players do make a mistake in some fashion, when submitting their picks.
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January 12th, 2023 at 8:05:50 AM permalink
Thanks for bringing this up, Ed. I was wondering the same thing. Based on my performance in the regular season, I envision myself in this position at some point!

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Mission, if a player makes this (honest) mistake, he's instantly disqualified?

It wouldn't surprise me if, with this new format, if one or more players do make a mistake in some fashion, when submitting their picks.
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It seems to me that if picks are due Sat @ 10 EST, and kickoff of the first game isn't until 4:30, there could be time to notify people of any rules issues and allow them to make corrections, if Mission so chooses. I'm sure this would be extra work for him, and I would certainly understand if he doesn't want to do this.

The way I look at it, it's a freeroll. If I 'foul' my bets, that's on me, and I have lost nothing. So, no biggie.
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