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March 21st, 2025 at 12:30:04 PM
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My remaining games are:
5 Memphis +2
9 Oklahoma +5.5
4 Arizona -14.5
7 Marquette -4
16 Norfolk State +28
13 Grand Canyon +10.5
11 North Carolina -1.5
10 Vanderbilt +4
5 Memphis +2
9 Oklahoma +5.5
4 Arizona -14.5
7 Marquette -4
16 Norfolk State +28
13 Grand Canyon +10.5
11 North Carolina -1.5
10 Vanderbilt +4
You can't know everything, but you can know anything.
March 21st, 2025 at 1:43:01 PM
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The Big East Tournament was my go-to weekend. It started with a quadruple header on Friday, followed by two games on Saturday, then Championship Sunday and the Selection Show. My fraternity had chapters at all the Big East schools, so we'd somehow squeeze in a few activities beyond the B-Ball.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
March 21st, 2025 at 6:02:22 PM
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That Florida basketball coach looks like he could be 17 years old.
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March 22nd, 2025 at 5:34:19 AM
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WATHS PLATFORM YOU USE ?
March 22nd, 2025 at 2:01:54 PM
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Refs are screwing up a great SJ-Arkansas game.
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March 22nd, 2025 at 3:04:10 PM
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Quote: billryanRefs are screwing up a great SJ-Arkansas game.
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I was happy with the outcome. I had Arkansas + 7 and I also root against Rick Pitino.
Tonight I have:
Tennessee -5
Houston -5
Drake + 7.5
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March 23rd, 2025 at 5:23:51 AM
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I like the Raptors at home - 120 over the Spurs
Fox and Webanyama are out for the Spurs
Spurs have lost 9 of their last 11 road games usually by a lot of points
Raptors are certainly not a good team but they're much better at home than the Spurs are on the road
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I like the Raptors at home - 120 over the Spurs
Fox and Webanyama are out for the Spurs
Spurs have lost 9 of their last 11 road games usually by a lot of points
Raptors are certainly not a good team but they're much better at home than the Spurs are on the road
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March 23rd, 2025 at 5:39:15 AM
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Quote: billryanThe Big East Tournament was my go-to weekend. It started with a quadruple header on Friday, followed by two games on Saturday, then Championship Sunday and the Selection Show. My fraternity had chapters at all the Big East schools, so we'd somehow squeeze in a few activities beyond the B-Ball.
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I went to every game of the first tourney. I only have vague recollections now.
I remember the 1983 tourney more. Especially the first game. It was a 9 versus 8 play in game. Me and my friend were there with a few thousand Providence and Seton Hall fans. There were very few of us non affiliated fans in the mostly empty building.
I’ve gone to a few NCAA tourney games. Frankly, if you don’t have a rooting interest in one of the schools playing it’s less exciting than most on campus games.
March 23rd, 2025 at 5:52:22 AM
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Quote: DRichThat Florida basketball coach looks like he could be 17 years old.
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My friends son is an assistant coach for Florida. Go gators! And next year they have the 7 foot 9 inch kid playing. I’ll try and go to a few games. (Older son also lives in Gainesville)
March 23rd, 2025 at 6:37:45 AM
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Quote: DRichQuote: billryanRefs are screwing up a great SJ-Arkansas game.
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I was happy with the outcome. I had Arkansas + 7 and I also root against Rick Pitino.
Tonight I have:
Tennessee -5
Houston -5
Drake + 7.5
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someone needs to check RJ Lewis's bank records. I think they'll find a few unexplained deposits. I'm not a Pitino fan, but St Johns has always been " my school" even though I never attended. I've been going to their games since they were the Redmen.
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March 23rd, 2025 at 6:42:11 AM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: billryanThe Big East Tournament was my go-to weekend. It started with a quadruple header on Friday, followed by two games on Saturday, then Championship Sunday and the Selection Show. My fraternity had chapters at all the Big East schools, so we'd somehow squeeze in a few activities beyond the B-Ball.
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I went to every game of the first tourney. I only have vague recollections now.
I remember the 1983 tourney more. Especially the first game. It was a 9 versus 8 play in game. Me and my friend were there with a few thousand Providence and Seton Hall fans. There were very few of us non affiliated fans in the mostly empty building.
I’ve gone to a few NCAA tourney games. Frankly, if you don’t have a rooting interest in one of the schools playing it’s less exciting than most on campus games.
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Back then, the NCAA field was much smaller, so the NIT tournament that immediately followed the Big East Tournament at MSG offered some great matchups.
At one point, the National Invitational Tournament was bigger and more prestigious than the NCAA Champions Tournament, as it was then known.
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March 23rd, 2025 at 6:42:28 AM
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Quote: billryanI've been going to their games since they were the Redmen.
In my mind they are still the Redmen and Louie Carnesecca is still the coach.
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March 23rd, 2025 at 6:51:45 AM
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I remember when they expanded the field to 32 teams and allowed non-champions to enter. That's because one year, the #2 and #3 rated teams in the country were not included, and one year, Marquette decided to skip the tournament because it didn't like the first-round draw. They won the NIT instead, and got a bigger financial incentive .
They quickly went from 32 to 40 and then expanded almost yearly to 64. What is it now? 72 teams? 96 teams?
They quickly went from 32 to 40 and then expanded almost yearly to 64. What is it now? 72 teams? 96 teams?
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March 23rd, 2025 at 8:17:01 AM
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Quote: DRichQuote: billryanI've been going to their games since they were the Redmen.
In my mind they are still the Redmen and Louie Carnesecca is still the coach.
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When I was growing up, there was a kid in my grandmother's neighborhood who was thought to be destined to be a star. His name was William Schaeffer and I believe he was the NYC Player of the Year his Junior year. He was recruited by Notre Dame, Marquette, Boston and several West Coast teams, but Lou Carnesecca convinced him to play for St. Johns. It was a shock as St Johns was not a powerhouse and didn't even have dorms at the time.
It was Carnesecca's first big recruiting win, so what happens? Carnesecca takes the job as head coach of the NY Nets and leaves St Johns.
Schaeffer went on to be an All-American, but struggled a bit in the NCAA his senior year and slips out of the first round in the draft. The Nets take him in the second round and a big deal is made about how he'll finally play for Lou Carnessca.
Except, that summer, Carnesecca quit the Nets and returned to coaching St. Johns. Schaeffer struggled with the pro game and was a bit player for a few seasons. The Nets were ABA champs when they drafted him, and won the title after trading him mid-season. Because he was on the Nets roster the year they won the ABA title, he was given a ring but he never wore it.
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March 23rd, 2025 at 2:45:37 PM
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Quote: billryanQuote: DRichQuote: billryanI've been going to their games since they were the Redmen.
In my mind they are still the Redmen and Louie Carnesecca is still the coach.
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When I was growing up, there was a kid in my grandmother's neighborhood who was thought to be destined to be a star. His name was William Schaeffer and I believe he was the NYC Player of the Year his Junior year. He was recruited by Notre Dame, Marquette, Boston and several West Coast teams, but Lou Carnesecca convinced him to play for St. Johns. It was a shock as St Johns was not a powerhouse and didn't even have dorms at the time.
It was Carnesecca's first big recruiting win, so what happens? Carnesecca takes the job as head coach of the NY Nets and leaves St Johns.
Schaeffer went on to be an All-American, but struggled a bit in the NCAA his senior year and slips out of the first round in the draft. The Nets take him in the second round and a big deal is made about how he'll finally play for Lou Carnessca.
Except, that summer, Carnesecca quit the Nets and returned to coaching St. Johns. Schaeffer struggled with the pro game and was a bit player for a few seasons. The Nets were ABA champs when they drafted him, and won the title after trading him mid-season. Because he was on the Nets roster the year they won the ABA title, he was given a ring but he never wore it.
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Interesting. I don't remember Carnesecca coaching the Nets. As I just looked it up I am not surprised that I don't remember it, I was four years old at the time.
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March 23rd, 2025 at 4:40:56 PM
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Quote: lilredrooster.
I like the Raptors at home - 120 over the Spurs
Fox and Webanyama are out for the Spurs
Spurs have lost 9 of their last 11 road games usually by a lot of points
Raptors are certainly not a good team but they're much better at home than the Spurs are on the road
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Raptors seem to be forfeiting. No Poeltl. No Dick (yes, that’s his name). No Ingram. And the cherry on top. No Quickley. Quickley is their quality point guard. What’s his injury? ‘Rest’. I kid you not. A young, superbly conditioned NBA speedster is on the injury report listing his injury as ‘rest’. Barely an NBA team. Only down 25 or so as I type this.
March 23rd, 2025 at 7:04:26 PM
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Quote: DRichQuote: billryanQuote: DRichQuote: billryanI've been going to their games since they were the Redmen.
In my mind they are still the Redmen and Louie Carnesecca is still the coach.
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When I was growing up, there was a kid in my grandmother's neighborhood who was thought to be destined to be a star. His name was William Schaeffer and I believe he was the NYC Player of the Year his Junior year. He was recruited by Notre Dame, Marquette, Boston and several West Coast teams, but Lou Carnesecca convinced him to play for St. Johns. It was a shock as St Johns was not a powerhouse and didn't even have dorms at the time.
It was Carnesecca's first big recruiting win, so what happens? Carnesecca takes the job as head coach of the NY Nets and leaves St Johns.
Schaeffer went on to be an All-American, but struggled a bit in the NCAA his senior year and slips out of the first round in the draft. The Nets take him in the second round and a big deal is made about how he'll finally play for Lou Carnessca.
Except, that summer, Carnesecca quit the Nets and returned to coaching St. Johns. Schaeffer struggled with the pro game and was a bit player for a few seasons. The Nets were ABA champs when they drafted him, and won the title after trading him mid-season. Because he was on the Nets roster the year they won the ABA title, he was given a ring but he never wore it.
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Interesting. I don't remember Carnesecca coaching the Nets. As I just looked it up I am not surprised that I don't remember it, I was four years old at the time.
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Carnesecca signed up to coach the Nets, but St John's wouldn't release him for a year. Lou worked as the St. Johns coach and the Nets unofficial GM that last year, His first official act when he took over was signing Rick Barry, the current NBA scoring champion.
Biggest day in Nets history,.
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March 24th, 2025 at 4:54:55 AM
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I like the Pacers -126 over the Timberwolves
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I like the Pacers -126 over the Timberwolves
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March 25th, 2025 at 5:05:11 AM
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I like the Trail Blazers +6.5 over the Cavaliers
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I like the Trail Blazers +6.5 over the Cavaliers
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March 26th, 2025 at 4:51:31 AM
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I like the Pacers +1.5 over the Lakers
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I like the Pacers +1.5 over the Lakers
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March 28th, 2025 at 5:03:02 AM
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I like the Bucks + 1 over the Knicks
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I like the Bucks + 1 over the Knicks
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April 1st, 2025 at 8:53:02 AM
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I am becoming a Ping Pong betting savant. I won my bet today and that makes five in a row for me. Sometimes that little ball bounces in the right direction.
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April 1st, 2025 at 9:07:10 AM
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I've never lost a bet on ping pong in my life, and I'm sure I'm far from alone.
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April 1st, 2025 at 9:28:08 AM
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Quote: billryanI've never lost a bet on ping pong in my life, and I'm sure I'm far from alone.
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Sure, but you are not living the glamorous life of a high rolling Ping Pong bettor. I am up well over $100 in lifetime Ping Pong betting income.
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April 4th, 2025 at 5:31:10 AM
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the link is a great article describing how sports books reward big losers and do the opposite with those who win
quite a few who the sports books court as VIPs have had their finances destroyed by gambling addiction - some have lost everything
https://archive.ph/mdsPH
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the link is a great article describing how sports books reward big losers and do the opposite with those who win
quite a few who the sports books court as VIPs have had their finances destroyed by gambling addiction - some have lost everything
https://archive.ph/mdsPH
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the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
April 4th, 2025 at 7:00:44 AM
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of course this is an old story, with consistency in coldblooded house greed, gambler idiocy, and the new twist being how easy it all is to do now. I don't get shocked at any of what's related and soon get bored and don't finishQuote: lilredrooster.
the link is a great article describing how sports books reward big losers and do the opposite with those who win
quite a few who the sports books court as VIPs have had their finances destroyed by gambling addiction - some have lost everything
https://archive.ph/mdsPH
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how do you feel when you read stuff like that?
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
April 4th, 2025 at 7:45:38 AM
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Quote: odiousgambitof course this is an old story, with consistency in coldblooded house greed, gambler idiocy, and the new twist being how easy it all is to do now. I don't get shocked at any of what's related and soon get bored and don't finishQuote: lilredrooster.
the link is a great article describing how sports books reward big losers and do the opposite with those who win
quite a few who the sports books court as VIPs have had their finances destroyed by gambling addiction - some have lost everything
https://archive.ph/mdsPH
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how do you feel when you read stuff like that?
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the article made a funny point about how this doesn't happen in other areas of life that are addictive
for example - imagine going into a bar and ordering a bourbon - and then having the bartender tell you that if you drink 6 more bourbons you get a free steak dinner ______________(-:)
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April 4th, 2025 at 8:00:59 AM
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Quote: lilredroosterQuote: odiousgambitof course this is an old story, with consistency in coldblooded house greed, gambler idiocy, and the new twist being how easy it all is to do now. I don't get shocked at any of what's related and soon get bored and don't finishQuote: lilredrooster.
the link is a great article describing how sports books reward big losers and do the opposite with those who win
quite a few who the sports books court as VIPs have had their finances destroyed by gambling addiction - some have lost everything
https://archive.ph/mdsPH
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how do you feel when you read stuff like that?
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the article made a funny point about how this doesn't happen in other areas of life that are addictive
for example - imagine going into a bar and ordering a bourbon - and then having the bartender tell you that if you drink 6 more bourbons you get a free steak dinner ______________(-:)
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A club will tell to buy an overpriced bottle and we'll give you a free table behind velvet ropes. Casinos are designed to separate people from their money. I don't think they hide it.
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April 4th, 2025 at 8:15:44 AM
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sports betting is now being handled in a way similar to blackjack where card counters are not welcome
I don't believe it should be legal to impose a limit on players because they are winners
a player should be allowed to bet up to at least $500 on anything he wants to no matter if he's a winner or not
the books should be able to make a line so accurate that a bet on any side has no edge - right now they don't seem to be able to do this - their opening lines are often weak - that's their problem - they shouldn't be able to make it the bettor's problem
there is no or very little regulation of this industry - imo the way it is being run is horrible
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sports betting is now being handled in a way similar to blackjack where card counters are not welcome
I don't believe it should be legal to impose a limit on players because they are winners
a player should be allowed to bet up to at least $500 on anything he wants to no matter if he's a winner or not
the books should be able to make a line so accurate that a bet on any side has no edge - right now they don't seem to be able to do this - their opening lines are often weak - that's their problem - they shouldn't be able to make it the bettor's problem
there is no or very little regulation of this industry - imo the way it is being run is horrible
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April 7th, 2025 at 5:05:10 PM
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Although I had no intention of betting the championship game tonight, I was able to get Houston +2.5 (+100). It will probably lose but it seems like it may be slightly +EV.
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April 10th, 2025 at 4:33:54 PM
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Quote: DRichAlthough I had no intention of betting the championship game tonight, I was able to get Houston +2.5 (+100). It will probably lose but it seems like it may be slightly +EV.
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Nice hit! Tonight I’m using Pacers over Cavs in pretty much everything. Seems like a Cavs forfeit. Not playing Mitchell, Garland, Turner, Strus, others. Pretty sure Pacers need to win for playoff positioning. This is the black eye of the NBA.
The Nuggets coach was fired soon after his ‘forfeit’ loss to the Spurs. That might cost them a home playoff game. I’m guessing owners care about home playoff games.
April 10th, 2025 at 4:50:06 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: DRichAlthough I had no intention of betting the championship game tonight, I was able to get Houston +2.5 (+100). It will probably lose but it seems like it may be slightly +EV.
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Nice hit! Tonight I’m using Pacers over Cavs in pretty much everything. Seems like a Cavs forfeit. Not playing Mitchell, Garland, Turner, Strus, others. Pretty sure Pacers need to win for playoff positioning. This is the black eye of the NBA.
The Nuggets coach was fired soon after his ‘forfeit’ loss to the Spurs. That might cost them a home playoff game. I’m guessing owners care about home playoff games.
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Now that the Cavs have the #1 locked up I am guessing their next few games will be "sloppy".
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April 11th, 2025 at 8:21:17 AM
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Quote: DRichQuote: SOOPOOQuote: DRichAlthough I had no intention of betting the championship game tonight, I was able to get Houston +2.5 (+100). It will probably lose but it seems like it may be slightly +EV.
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Nice hit! Tonight I’m using Pacers over Cavs in pretty much everything. Seems like a Cavs forfeit. Not playing Mitchell, Garland, Turner, Strus, others. Pretty sure Pacers need to win for playoff positioning. This is the black eye of the NBA.
The Nuggets coach was fired soon after his ‘forfeit’ loss to the Spurs. That might cost them a home playoff game. I’m guessing owners care about home playoff games.
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Now that the Cavs have the #1 locked up I am guessing their next few games will be "sloppy".
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Pacers hit, but barely. Cavs 2nd teamers were better than the Pacers, up 11 I think in second half. But (lucky for me) Cavs coach put the 3rd teamers in the second half of the 4th quarter. It really seemed he was trying to lose.
My hedge also hit. I got Cavs + 2.5 sometime in the fourth quarter. I love it when my money line hits by a point or two….
April 16th, 2025 at 5:41:41 AM
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article about pro and college sports being fixed
a huge prop bet on the under was made on NBA player Jontay Porter who conspired with gamblers and took himself out of the game early faking an injury
more of this now due to the huge increase in legalized sports betting
https://archive.ph/q3NCo
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article about pro and college sports being fixed
a huge prop bet on the under was made on NBA player Jontay Porter who conspired with gamblers and took himself out of the game early faking an injury
more of this now due to the huge increase in legalized sports betting
https://archive.ph/q3NCo
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April 24th, 2025 at 4:20:36 PM
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Hard Rock has been basically giving money away in their ‘Battle of the Bets’ promotion. They offer two choices, example today is Panthers/over 5.5 or Lightning/over 5.5. The Lightning are small favorites. Over 5.5 is a small favorite. So I put my $1 on Lightning/over at +250. If it hits you get your $3.50 AND a bonus bet, the lowest it has been is $25. If neither hits that goes up. Usually the $1 bet on its own is slightly -EV. So you can bet $1, or more. But today I reflexively put my bet on Lightning/over. After I looked at it more carefully I think the base bet is +EV. So I went to bet more on it…. but….. it’s no longer available for me! I guess they decided it was +EV as well!.
April 26th, 2025 at 4:47:27 AM
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casinos refusing to pay sports bettor who won big
all kinds of ridiculous excuses - really sucks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK7BXQu0klE&t=283s
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casinos refusing to pay sports bettor who won big
all kinds of ridiculous excuses - really sucks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK7BXQu0klE&t=283s
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April 26th, 2025 at 7:19:34 AM
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Quote: lilredrooster.
casinos refusing to pay sports bettor who won big
all kinds of ridiculous excuses - really sucks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK7BXQu0klE&t=283s
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That report is not a report. Unless I missed something, it said ‘he bet, won, but Caesars said he broke the rules.’
No example of a single bet. No example of a single rule Caesars said he broke. No examples of some of the losing bets. No number of how many bets. No mention of the size of the bets. No mention of if boosts or bonuses were used.
In other news, there was a crime in one of the suburbs,
Mrs. Jones alleges.
April 26th, 2025 at 7:42:39 AM
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Did you watch any of the pacers game last night? What was the line considering the pacers were up 2-0 in the series before last night,?
April 26th, 2025 at 8:00:43 AM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: lilredrooster.
casinos refusing to pay sports bettor who won big
all kinds of ridiculous excuses - really sucks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK7BXQu0klE&t=283s
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That report is not a report. Unless I missed something, it said ‘he bet, won, but Caesars said he broke the rules.’
No example of a single bet. No example of a single rule Caesars said he broke. No examples of some of the losing bets. No number of how many bets. No mention of the size of the bets. No mention of if boosts or bonuses were used.
In other news, there was a crime in one of the suburbs,
Mrs. Jones alleges.
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you're stating it was not a comprehensive report
fair enough
but to me the report has some value because it shows casinos refusing to pay a winner for no good reason
edit - well there were some reasons given - "structuring, and violation of anti-money laundering rules and repeat wagering policies"
just some doubletalk and nonsense
small bettors risking only hundreds prolly will have no problems -
but anybody who has a motivation to make big bucks at sports betting imo would be better off taking large risks in other area such as the stock market
if a person is sharp enough to crush sports he's prolly sharp enough to crush in the market - maybe not as much fun
again, casinos who operate this way really suck - they're destroying the reputation of the industry
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April 26th, 2025 at 9:38:54 AM
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Quote: avianrandyDid you watch any of the pacers game last night? What was the line considering the pacers were up 2-0 in the series before last night,?
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the line was Bucks - 4.5 and -205 on the money line
all of the lines for the major sports can be found at covers.com - see link
https://www.covers.com/sports/nba/matchups?selectedDate=2025-04-25
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April 26th, 2025 at 10:07:46 AM
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As a NY Giant fan, I was convinced they would be taking Shed Sanders with the #3 pick. I wasn't thrilled with it, but it appeared to be a done deal. Then I heard they were making a huge bid to get the #1 pick, trading two first-round picks to move up. That failed, and they picked a rusher at #3.
They then traded up to get a second pick in the first round, and again, they passed on Sanders, opting for a different quarterback.
Sanders, once considered for the top overall pick, slipped out of the first round. Then he went undrafted in the second round. Now he wasn't picked in the third round.
I don't think he can go back to school, and his future is quite uncertain right now.
Rumor has it that he showed up for an interview with the Giants' coaching staff unprepared, and it got a bit personal between the coaches and him. That doesn't explain why 29 other teams passed on him on multiple rounds. Or does it?
They then traded up to get a second pick in the first round, and again, they passed on Sanders, opting for a different quarterback.
Sanders, once considered for the top overall pick, slipped out of the first round. Then he went undrafted in the second round. Now he wasn't picked in the third round.
I don't think he can go back to school, and his future is quite uncertain right now.
Rumor has it that he showed up for an interview with the Giants' coaching staff unprepared, and it got a bit personal between the coaches and him. That doesn't explain why 29 other teams passed on him on multiple rounds. Or does it?
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April 26th, 2025 at 12:22:42 PM
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ok thanks. I know soopoo has some action on the pacers when they played the cavaliers. I seen on Twitter the pacers were up double digits at halftime but then tried a different strategy which ultimately ended up in disaster but they didn't say what it was. I didn't figure they would let the pacers go up 3-0 in the series but you never knowQuote: lilredroosterQuote: avianrandyDid you watch any of the pacers game last night? What was the line considering the pacers were up 2-0 in the series before last night,?
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the line was Bucks - 4.5 and -205 on the money line
all of the lines for the major sports can be found at covers.com - see link
https://www.covers.com/sports/nba/matchups?selectedDate=2025-04-25
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April 26th, 2025 at 7:43:12 PM
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Quote: billryanAs a NY Giant fan, I was convinced they would be taking Shed Sanders with the #3 pick. I wasn't thrilled with it, but it appeared to be a done deal. Then I heard they were making a huge bid to get the #1 pick, trading two first-round picks to move up. That failed, and they picked a rusher at #3.
They then traded up to get a second pick in the first round, and again, they passed on Sanders, opting for a different quarterback.
Sanders, once considered for the top overall pick, slipped out of the first round. Then he went undrafted in the second round. Now he wasn't picked in the third round.
I don't think he can go back to school, and his future is quite uncertain right now.
Rumor has it that he showed up for an interview with the Giants' coaching staff unprepared, and it got a bit personal between the coaches and him. That doesn't explain why 29 other teams passed on him on multiple rounds. Or does it?
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I heard that Shedeur Sanders:
1. skipped the scheduled meeting with the Giants. Just didn't show up.
2. His many recorded comments (E.g. that he (Shedeur) would be in charge of the culture in the locker room) created an impression that he was entitled and would be a disruptive personality. His father's comment that "he (Deion) would pick the NFL club his son would go to" in the same way that Eli Manning decided he would not play for San Diego - well, that also didn't sit well with executives and coaches. Apparently many clubs didn't want to give a 4-year contract to a person with the kind of psychological temperment he revealed when he opened his mouth.
He was eventually drafted in the 5th round by the Browns - who already had 3-4 other QBs*. Apparently so that they cut ties with him if he misbehaves without affecting the team's prospects or losing much money.
*Joe Flacco, Jameis Winston, Deshone Kizer and Dillon Gabriel (picked in the 3rd round).
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April 26th, 2025 at 8:13:11 PM
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I read that he showed up physically, but was mentally checked out. Guys on Big Blue claim he was unprepared and indifferent.
The team got lucky the last time they went with an Ole Miss QB, and I think they dodged a bullet by not drafting a diva.
Big Blue added a monster rusher and drafted the QB of the future. The nice thing is he can sit while they assemble an O-line.
The team got lucky the last time they went with an Ole Miss QB, and I think they dodged a bullet by not drafting a diva.
Big Blue added a monster rusher and drafted the QB of the future. The nice thing is he can sit while they assemble an O-line.
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April 27th, 2025 at 5:07:13 AM
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*Joe Flacco, Jameis Winston, Deshone Kizer and Dillon Gabriel (picked in the 3rd round).
You have old news.
Deshaun Watson
Kenny Pickett
Joe Flacco
Dillon Gabriel
Shedeur Sanders
Watson unlikely to play at all due to Achilles injury
Pickett most likely day 1 starter
Flacco might read the tea leaves and retire
Gabriel was probably ecstatic at opportunity to learn and step in when Pickett fails
Sanders of course unhappy with result of being the SECOND QB taken by a team.
If you have 5 QBs, you have no QB.
I did win my one draft bet. I had Ward at #1 a few months back at even money.
Bills first rounder seemed so enthusiastic! And he only has one rape allegation against him from college, so that’s a plus.
Speaking of rape allegations, how can ESPN keep Shannon Sharpe regardless of the outcome of his lawsuits?
April 27th, 2025 at 5:45:41 AM
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Quote: billryanI read that he showed up physically, but was mentally checked out. Guys on Big Blue claim he was unprepared and indifferent.
The team got lucky the last time they went with an Ole Miss QB, and I think they dodged a bullet by not drafting a diva.
Big Blue added a monster rusher and drafted the QB of the future. The nice thing is he can sit while they assemble an O-line.
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Quoting from a report:
The Browns passed on Sanders 6 times before selecting him as the 144th pick.
Sanders had hoped to be selected in the first round but was passed up on because of concerns about his attitude, as reported by journalist Tom Pelissero.
"Throughout the pre-draft process, Shedeur Sanders very much proceeded as if he was dictating to clubs where he was going to go rather than how the draft works, which is the other way around," Pelissero said.
"Some of his formal interviews did not go well. An assistant coach told me, in all his years, it was the worst formal interview he'd ever been through."
"People said that Shedeur was trying to dictate how he wanted things to go and made them feel small."
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
April 27th, 2025 at 8:07:50 AM
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It seems like he will get his wish. After a brief stay with the Browns, he'll most likely be cut and be able to choose the team he wants to play for. Only he'll be paid like a free agent, and not a first-round draft pick.
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April 27th, 2025 at 9:42:27 AM
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Quote: billryanIt seems like he will get his wish. After a brief stay with the Browns, he'll most likely be cut and be able to choose the team he wants to play for. Only he'll be paid like a free agent, and not a first-round draft pick.
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I would expect at some point he will be an NFL starter QB.
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April 27th, 2025 at 10:39:00 AM
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Quote: DRichQuote: billryanIt seems like he will get his wish. After a brief stay with the Browns, he'll most likely be cut and be able to choose the team he wants to play for. Only he'll be paid like a free agent, and not a first-round draft pick.
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I would expect at some point he will be an NFL starter QB.
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I've never seen him play, so I can't comment on his ability. From his actions, I'm not sure I'd turn over my franchise to him, but we shall see. He's already cost himself millions, and it will take years to recoup it unless he challenges the NCAA and returns to school for another year. He'll make more in NILs than with a 5th-round contract.
The NCAA rules prohibit his return, but few NCAA rules have withstood recent court cases.
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