2021 WoV Picks Game Discussion Thread

Week 16 Results

Mission146 (3-3)
FALCONS -5.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
JETS -1 (win)
BILLS +2.5 (win)
STEELERS +8.5 (loss)
RAIDERS PK (win)

Wizard (3-3)
BROWNS +7.5 (win)
PANTHERS +10 (loss)
GIANTS +10 CONFIDENCE (loss)
TEXANS +10 (win)
LIONS +5.5 (win)

SOOPOO (5-1)
DOLPHINS -1.5 CONFIDENCE. (win)
LIONS +5.5 (win)
BROWNS +7.5 (win)
STEELERS +8.5 (loss)
BILLS +2.5 (win)

AZDUFFMAN (2-2)
BILLS +2.5 (win)
STEELERS +8.5 (loss)
RAVENS +3 (loss)
BROWNS OVER 46 CONFIDENCE (push)
RAIDERS PK (win)

Gordonm888 (6-0)
BROWNS +7.5 (win)
COLTS +1 (win)
BENGALS -3 (win)
BEARS +6.5 (win)
DOLPHINS UNDER 37.5 CONFIDENCE (win)

JohnnyQ (6-0)
BROWNS (+7.5) CONFIDENCE (win)
COLTS (+1) (win)
LIONS (+5.5) (win)
JETS (-1) (win)
BILLS (+2.5) (win)

JW17 (1-5)
BRONCOS (PK) CONFIDENCE (loss)
PACKERS (-7.5) (loss)
CARDINALS (-1) (loss)
JETS (-1) (win)
PATRIOTS (-2.5) (loss)

PlayYourCardsRight (4-2)
PACKERS -7.5 (loss)
COLTS +1 (win)
EAGLES -10 (win)
JAGUARS +1 (loss)
DOLPHINS -1.5 CONFIDENCE (win)

RideTheEdge (1-4)
CARDINALS -1 (loss)
BUCCANEERS OVER 42.5 (loss)
CHARGERS -10 (loss)
FALCONS -5.5 (loss)
RAMS -3 (win)

IndyJeffrey (4-1)
COLTS +1 (win)
LIONS +5.5 (win)
BENGALS -3 (win)
JETS -1 (win)
PATRIOTS -2.5 (loss)

scolist (2-4)
BUCCANEERS -10 (win)
BUCCANEERS OVER 42.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
PATRIOTS -2.5 (loss)
RAIDERS PK (win)
SAINTS +1.5 (loss)

Joeman (5-1)
DOLPHINS -1.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
BENGALS -3 (win)
PANTHERS OVER 42.5 (loss)
RAMS -3 (win)
CHIEFS -8.5 (win)

EdCollins (4-2)
FALCONS -5.5 (loss)
BILLS +2.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
CHIEFS -8.5 (win)
FOOTBALL TEAM +10.5 (loss)
DOLPHINS -1.5 (win)

Sparty10k (4-1)
BENGALS -3 (win)
RAMS -3 (win)
JETS -1 (win)
CHIEFS -8.5 (win)
SAINTS +1.5 (loss)

JML24 (3-3)
BUCCANEERS -10 (win)
VIKINGS +3 (loss)
BILLS +2.5 (win)
CHIEFS -8.5 (win)
SAINTS +1.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)

FourFiveFace (4-2)
GIANTS +10 (loss)
TEXANS +10 (win)
BENGALS -3 CONFIDENCE (win)
VIKINGS +3 (loss)
BEARS +6.5 (win)

unJon (1-5)
CHARGERS -10 (loss)
FALCONS -5.5 (loss)
BENGALS -3 (win)
BENGALS UNDER 45 (loss)
BEARS UNDER 42.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)

miplet (4-2)
FALCONS -5.5 (-6.5) (loss)
BENGALS -3 CONFIDENCE (win)
RAMS -3 (-3.5) (win)
BILLS +2.5 (+1) (win)
FOOTBALL TEAM +10.5 (+9.5) (loss)

JohnZimbo (3-3)
BENGALS -3 (win)
BENGALS UNDER 45 CONFIDENCE (loss)
SEAHAWKS -6.5 (loss)
DOLPHINS -1.5 (win)
DOLPHINS UNDER 37.5 (win)


Standings Through Week 16

Name	Wins	Losses	%
RideTheEdge	63	32	66.32%
JohnZimbo	62	34	64.58%
unJon	55	39	58.51%
EdCollins	54	40	57.45%
PlayYourCardsRight	49	39	55.68%
IndyJeffrey	49	44	52.69%
JW17	47	43	52.22%
Mission146	47	43	52.22%
jml24	40	38	51.28%
miplet	46	44	51.11%
Joeman	47	47	50.00%
scolist	43	43	50.00%
Wizard	47	47	50.00%
FourFiveFace	47	48	49.47%
Gordonm888	46	48	48.94%
mwalz9	44	46	48.89%
AZDuffman	44	49	47.31%
SOOPOO	43	52	45.26%
JohnnyQ	41	53	43.62%
GenWyzgy	37	52	41.57%
Sparty10k	35	60	36.84%
Totals	986	941	51.17%

Record of Skip Weeks
miplet: Week 2
JW17: Week 6
jml24: Week 8
Mission146: Week 9
PlayYourCardsRight: Week 12
scolist: Week 12
GenWyzgy: Week 16
mwalz9: Week 16

The beauty of a having a 2nd Place & 3rd Place Prize, along with a Most Average Prize and a You Suck Prize, is that with two weeks to go, everyone playing still has a chance to win one of those prizes.

The Most Average Prize, again, is hotly contested. No less than eight players are at .500 or within two games of it.

Mission, could you update and recap all of the prize amounts this week?

The following was taken from the rules you posted a couple of months ago: Is it all still accurate?

1st Place: $300 + all entry fees (21 x $25) = net win of $825.
2nd Place: $175 less your entry fee to 1st Place winner = net win of $150.
3rd Place: $25 less your entry fee to 1st Place winner = net win of $0.

Most Average Consolation Prize: $75 less your entry fee to 1st Place winner = net win of $50.
You Suck Consolation Prize: $75 less your entry fee to 1st Place winner = net win of $50.

(Note that Fast Eddie is still responsible to pay $25 to the winner. I believe someone generously said they vouched for him and if he didn't pay it, they would.)

Quote: EdCollins

Mission, could you update and recap all of the prize amounts this week?

The following was taken from the rules you posted a couple of months ago: Is it all still accurate?

1st Place: $300 + all entry fees (21 x $25) = net win of $825.
2nd Place: $175 less your entry fee to 1st Place winner = net win of $150.
3rd Place: $25 less your entry fee to 1st Place winner = net win of $0.

Most Average Consolation Prize: $75 less your entry fee to 1st Place winner = net win of $50.
You Suck Consolation Prize: $75 less your entry fee to 1st Place winner = net win of $50.

(Note that Fast Eddie is still responsible to pay $25 to the winner. I believe someone generously said they vouched for him and if he didn't pay it, they would.)
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I will cover Fast Eddie’s $25, though I am certain he will pay it to me, by one means or another.

As far as the remaining prizes to go out, I will account for them fully in the morning as I’m just about to go to bed. I’m actually awake later than normal, but that’s because my fiancée was up watching something.

Also, I’m on my phone and it will be easier on the computer.

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Gordonm888 (6-0)
BROWNS +7.5 (win)
COLTS +1 (win)
BENGALS -3 (win)
BEARS +6.5 (win)
DOLPHINS UNDER 37.5 CONFIDENCE (win)

JohnnyQ (6-0)
BROWNS (+7.5) CONFIDENCE (win)
COLTS (+1) (win)
LIONS (+5.5) (win)
JETS (-1) (win)
BILLS (+2.5) (win)

Woot woot !

Quote: EdCollins

Mission, could you update and recap all of the prize amounts this week?

The following was taken from the rules you posted a couple of months ago: Is it all still accurate?

1st Place: $300 + all entry fees (21 x $25) = net win of $825.
2nd Place: $175 less your entry fee to 1st Place winner = net win of $150.
3rd Place: $25 less your entry fee to 1st Place winner = net win of $0.

Most Average Consolation Prize: $75 less your entry fee to 1st Place winner = net win of $50.
You Suck Consolation Prize: $75 less your entry fee to 1st Place winner = net win of $50.

(Note that Fast Eddie is still responsible to pay $25 to the winner. I believe someone generously said they vouched for him and if he didn't pay it, they would.)
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Okay, so the first thing that I want to do is congratulate JohnnyQ and Gordonm888 on a shared perfection bonus! It wasn't such a bad one to share since nobody won it last week.

With that, our Perfection Bonuses now stand as follows:

Perfection Bonus Log (Fully Updated):

Week 1: UnJon ($10)

Week 3: JohnZimbo ($20)

Week 6: PlayYourCardsRight ($15) & SOOPOO ($15)

Week 7: JohnZimbo ($5) & EdCollins ($5)

Week 9: Unjon ($30)

Week 10 RidetheEdge: ($20)

Week 11 RidetheEdge: ($20)--->This is not a mistake!

Week 12 JW17: ($20)

Week 14 AZDuffman: ($40)

Week 16 JohnnyQ ($20) and Gordonm888 ($20)

With that, we have $240 in awarded Perfection Bonuses with a possibility for another $40 depending on what happens the next two weeks. $160/$240 and $20/$40 comes from the fact that my contribution to the Perfection Bonus is $10/week and UnJon generously contributed $100 and matched my $10/week for the final ten weeks.

In terms of fixed prizes, we have:

1st Place: $300
2nd Place: $175 ($150 paid you and I pay your $25 Entry Fee to the winner)
3rd Place: $25 (By Way of my paying your Entry Fee to the winner)

Most Average: $75 ($50 paid you and I pay your $25 Entry Fee to the winner)
You Suck: $75 ($50 paid you and I pay your $25 Entry Fee to the winner)

Additionally, if someone has won more than $25 on a Perfection Bonus, or accumulated Perfection Bonuses of more than $25 without winning any other prize, then the first $25 of that will be used to pay their Entry Fee and they will receive the rest.

If someone has won LESS THAN $25 in Perfection Bonuses without winning any other prize, then I will send them the amount won and they will just pay their $25 Entry Fee to the winner, due to the fact that two transactions will be required one way or the other. I guess they could send me $25 - (Perfection Bonus Winnings) if they wanted to, but I'd probably only want to do that if it were some form of electronic payment.

SUM OF PERFECTION BONUSES:

Unjon: $40
AZDuffman: $40
RidetheEdge: $40
JohnZimbo: $25
JW17: $20
JohnnyQ: $20
Gordonm888: $20
PlayYourCardsRight: $15
SOOPOO: $15
EdCollins: $5

As it stands, Unjon, AZDuffman, RidetheEdge and JohnZimbo will not have to pay Entry Fees directly to the winner regardless of anything else that happens.

As to the matter of paying the winner, as I understand it, there are 21 players other than myself, because I do not pay an Entry Fee. That being the case, there are going to be 21 * 25 = $525 in total Entry Fees paid to the winner by one means or another.

After the standings post Week 18 are up, then I will create a separate thread for all payouts to be handled and accounted for, similar to the way that we did that at the end of the 2019 WoV Picks Game.

Out of curiosity, if there were to be multiple "Most Average" winners (which seems like a distinct possibility given the current logjam around the 50% mark), how does the tie breaker work?

Quote: Joeman

Out of curiosity, if there were to be multiple "Most Average" winners (which seems like a distinct possibility given the current logjam around the 50% mark), how does the tie breaker work?
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Quote: Mission146

Rules:

1.) The winner will be determined by having the highest winning percentage. In the event of a tie for any prize, the winners will have the option of either splitting the take, or they may agree to PM me a Super Bowl pick prior to the Super Bowl, but after the combatants are known, consisting of the winning team, spread and TD's thrown; the winner will be determined in that order. If two Members PM me the same thing, they will BOTH be asked to change at least one aspect of their picks.

I might have to get a bit more creative than that if we have a three way tie, but even then, all three could agree to split it or I might go with what any two of the three want. In any event, I might have to play it by ear if there ends up being a more than two way tie.

Greetings!

The Week 17 Lines are as follows:

Raiders (+7) @ Colts (-7) O/U 44.5
Giants (+6) @ Bears (-6) O/U 37
Buccaneers (-13.5) @ Jets (+13.5) O/U 45.5
Falcons (+14.5) @ Bills (-14.5) O/U 44.5
Cardinals (+6) @ Cowboys (-6) O/U 51.5
Panthers (+6.5) @ Saints (-6.5) O/U 37.5
Eagles (-3.5) @ Football Team (+3.5) O/U 44.5
Chiefs (-5) @ Bengals (+5) O/U 51
Jaguars (+15.5) @ Patriots (-15.5) O/U 41.5
Dolphins (+3) @ Titans (-3) O/U 39.5
Broncos (+6.5) @ Chargers (-6.5) O/U 45.5
Texans (+12.5) @ 49ers (-12.5) O/U 44
Lions (+7) @ Seahawks (-7) O/U 42.5
Rams (-4.5) @ Ravens (+4.5) O/U 46.5
Vikings (+7) @ Packers (-7) O/U 46.5
Browns (-3.5) @ Steelers (+3.5) O/U 41

Perfection Bonus Log (Fully Updated):

Week 1: UnJon ($10)

Week 3: JohnZimbo ($20)

Week 6: PlayYourCardsRight ($15) & SOOPOO ($15)

Week 7: JohnZimbo ($5) & EdCollins ($5)

Week 9: Unjon ($30)

Week 10 RidetheEdge: ($20)

Week 11 RidetheEdge: ($20)--->This is not a mistake!

Week 12 JW17: ($20)

Week 14 AZDuffman: ($40)

Week 16 JohnnyQ ($20) and Gordonm888 ($20)

Think most of the drama is going to be the scramble for third place.

First/second race is getting pretty tight also.

In Week 17 we have a full 16 games, but only one game with a spread of 3 points, and no games with a spread less than 3 points!

Greetings!

The Week 17 Picks are as follows:

Mission146:
Raiders +7
Dolphins +3
Ravens +4.5
Browns -3.5
Steelers OVER 41

JohnnyQ:
Skips Week 17

Wizard:
Skips Week 17

Joeman:
Texans +12.5
Bengals OVER 51
Packers -7 -Confidence
Rams -4.5
Cardinals +6

SOOPOO:
Falcons +14.5 Confidence
Steelers +3.5
Chargers -6.5
Texans +12.5
Jaguars +15.5

IndyJeffrey
Giants +6
Cowboys -6
Chiefs -5
Titans -3-Confidence
Lions +7

EdCollins
Packers -7 Confidence
Packers Under 46.5
Chargers -6.5
Rams -4.5
Steelers +3.5

RideTheEdge:
Colts -7
Titans -3
Chargers -6.5
Rams -4.5
Packers -7-Confidence

Sparty10k:
Buccaneers -13.5
Chiefs -5
Texans +12.5
Packers -7
Steelers +3.5-confidence

mwalz9:
Eagles (-3.5)
Titans (-3)
Chargers (-6.5)
Vikings UNDER 46.5 CONFIDENCE
Steelers UNDER 41

FourFiveFace:
Cardinals +6
Bengals +5
Texans +12.5-Confidence
Lions +7
Steelers +3.5

Gordonm888
Bills -14.5
Patriots -15.5
Texans +12.5
Packers -7 Confidence
Steelers +3.5

PlayYourCardsRight:
Colts -7
Cowboys -6
Bengals +5
Lions +7
Packers -7 CONFIDENCE

JML24:
Saints -6.5
Bengals +5
Broncos +6.5
Seahawks -7
Packers -7 CONFIDENCE

GenWyzgy:
Colts -7
Eagles -3.5
Dolphins +3
Ravens +4.5
Packers -7 CONFIDENCE

JohnZimbo:
Packers -7 confidence
Packers under 46.5
Bears -6
Cardinals over 51.5
Falcons under 44.5

unJon:
Eagles -3.5
Bengals +5
Chargers -6.5
Texans +12.5
Packers -7-confidence

scolist:
Cardinals +6
Packers -7 Confidence
Steelers +3.5
Saints -6.5
Titans -3

miplet:
Eagles -3.5 (-6)
Bengals +5 (+3.5)
Seahawks -7-confidence
Rams -4.5 (-6.5)
Packers -7 (-12.5)

And I thought I was gonna be the only one taking the Packers :)

Game not played yet…. But Ride The Edge, our fearless leader, actually picked the Colts? Hasn’t Wentz been ruled out for a while?

Quote: SOOPOO

Game not played yet…. But Ride The Edge, our fearless leader, actually picked the Colts? Hasn’t Wentz been ruled out for a while?
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Wentz is playing

Quote: Johnzimbo

And I thought I was gonna be the only one taking the Packers :)
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I think Packers -7 would be about 2 to 1 if you could find anyone to offer that alternate line. I was going to avoid confidence picks to reduce variance, but couldn't resist those odds. Then I woke up in the middle of the night realizing it was such an obvious pick that you might pick the Vikings for the 1 in 3 chance to overtake me in just one game.

Quote: SOOPOO

Game not played yet…. But Ride The Edge, our fearless leader, actually picked the Colts? Hasn’t Wentz been ruled out for a while?

Thanks for the compliment, but I don't think you should follow me, seeing as I don't know who Wentz is or if/when he plays. Mission offered Colts-7, but the line was -8. Colts should be about a 5:4 or 4:3 favorite at -7 I believe.

Packers should be a lock here. I randomized my picks trying to go 4-2. Im wanting to win the Most Average prize. LoL

I’m DQd I totally flaked again ugh! Oh well best of luck to everyone. Sorry about that hope to be back next year

Quote: Mission146

miplet:
Eagles -3.5 (-6)
Bengals +5 (+3.5)
Seahawks -7-confidence
Rams -4.5 (-6.5)
Packers -7 (-12.5)
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Well, I guess that we can tell how miplet makes his selections because he kindly (or inadvertently) left his notes about the "final" line on the selections that he made.

Quote: unJon

Quote: SOOPOO

Game not played yet…. But Ride The Edge, our fearless leader, actually picked the Colts? Hasn’t Wentz been ruled out for a while?
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Wentz is playing
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That could be one of the reasons I’m fighting for 15th place…

Quote: mwalz9

Packers should be a lock here. I randomized my picks trying to go 4-2. Im wanting to win the Most Average prize. LoL
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I've decided that my approach will be to go for the 6-0 weekly prize and let the NFL provide the randomness that might bring me a share of the Most Average Prize.

Antonio Brown needs to seek mental health help immediately.

Quote: Mission146

Greetings!

The Week 17 Lines are as follows:
Browns (-3.5) @ Steelers (+3.5) O/U 41

Hey, I'm not a sports bettor generally. But am I missing something here ? As always, thanks for furthering my meager gambling education.



Also, YES on Antonio.

The line moved almost 6 points once it was determined Cleveland had nothing to play for.

A lot of bettors who had Pittsburgh +3 are buying back Cleveland +3 now.

Quote: mwalz9

The line moved almost 6 points once it was determined Cleveland had nothing to play for.

A lot of bettors who had Pittsburgh +3 are buying back Cleveland +3 now.
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As much as I don't personally care for him, I think Mayfield is a competitor and PIT/CLE has become a legitimate rivalry again. I imagine there is nothing that the Browns would like more than to cause the Steelers to not have to worry about anything next week...by beating them tonight and ending their playoff hopes immediately.

Also, this might be Ben Roethlisberger's last home game, or should be, anyway. I'd love nothing more than to see him basically finish his career by getting blown out by the Browns.

I'm a genius!

Quote: Mission146

Steelers 23 @ Bills 16: Six yards per passing attempt, not completion. Roethlisberger's fat ass should have left when the Killer B's did, so the Steelers could move on at quarterback rather than some weird mediocrity holding pattern. That said, some games you don't really need the offense to do a lot. I at least hope the defensive trend continues, the Steelers are good at reminding people Allen is mortal.

Oh, wait...I'm an idiot:

Quote: Mission146

Vikings 24 @ Bengals 27: Haha, Kirk Cousins, even when you don't suck, you still suck. Now, everyone point and laugh at the kids who lost to the Bungles! This shouldn't change anything. The Bengals should still be awful and the Vikings anywhere from 7-10 to 10-7 and a Wildcard loss.

I had the Vikings season outlook exactly right, but man did I miss big on what I said about the Bengals. Now, everyone point and laugh at the idiot who said the Bengals were going to still be awful this year.

In fairness, the only people who thought that the Bengals would win the division by a mile eat chili on their spaghetti.

Quote: Mission146

Quote: mwalz9

The line moved almost 6 points once it was determined Cleveland had nothing to play for.

A lot of bettors who had Pittsburgh +3 are buying back Cleveland +3 now.
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As much as I don't personally care for him, I think Mayfield is a competitor and PIT/CLE has become a legitimate rivalry again. I imagine there is nothing that the Browns would like more than to cause the Steelers to not have to worry about anything next week...by beating them tonight and ending their playoff hopes immediately.

Also, this might be Ben Roethlisberger's last home game, or should be, anyway. I'd love nothing more than to see him basically finish his career by getting blown out by the Browns.
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For the record, I am now instead pulling for the Steelers tonight and hope Ben Roethlisberger lights it up the rest of the game, but I’m not going to say why I have changed my position on this.

Week 17 Results

Mission146 (2-3)
RAIDERS +7 (win)
DOLPHINS +3 (loss)
RAVENS +4.5 (win)
BROWNS -3.5 (loss)
STEELERS OVER 41 (loss)

Joeman (4-2)
TEXANS +12.5 (loss)
BENGALS OVER 51 (win)
PACKERS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)
RAMS -4.5 (loss)
CARDINALS +6 (win)

SOOPOO (4-2)
FALCONS +14.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
STEELERS +3.5 (win)
CHARGERS -6.5 (win)
TEXANS +12.5 (loss)
JAGUARS +15.5 (loss)

IndyJeffrey (2-4)
GIANTS +6 (loss)
COWBOYS -6 (loss)
CHIEFS -5 (loss)
TITANS -3 CONFIDENCE (win)
LIONS +7 (loss)

EdCollins (4-2)
PACKERS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)
PACKERS UNDER 46.5 (loss)
CHARGERS -6.5 (win)
RAMS -4.5 (loss)
STEELERS +3.5 (win)

RideTheEdge (4-2)
COLTS -7 (loss)
TITANS -3 (win)
CHARGERS -6.5 (win)
RAMS -4.5 (loss)
PACKERS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)

Sparty10k (3-3)
BUCCANEERS -13.5 (loss)
CHIEFS -5 (loss)
TEXANS +12.5 (loss)
PACKERS -7 (win)
STEELERS +3.5 CONFIDENCE (win)

mwalz9 (4-2)
EAGLES (-3.5) (win)
TITANS (-3) (win)
CHARGERS (-6.5) (win)
VIKINGS UNDER 46.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
STEELERS UNDER 41 (win)

FourFiveFace (3-3)
CARDINALS +6 (win)
BENGALS +5 (win)
TEXANS +12.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
LIONS +7 (loss)
STEELERS +3.5 (win)

Gordonm888 (4-2)
BILLS -14.5 (loss)
PATRIOTS -15.5 (win)
TEXANS +12.5 (loss)
PACKERS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)
STEELERS +3.5 (win)

PlayYourCardsRight (3-3)
COLTS -7 (loss)
COWBOYS -6 (loss)
BENGALS +5 (win)
LIONS +7 (loss)
PACKERS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)

JML24 (5-1)
SAINTS -6.5 (win)
BENGALS +5 (win)
BRONCOS +6.5 (loss)
SEAHAWKS -7 (win)
PACKERS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)

GenWyzgy (4-2)
COLTS -7 (loss)
EAGLES -3.5 (win)
DOLPHINS +3 (loss)
RAVENS +4.5 (win)
PACKERS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)

JohnZimbo (4-2)
PACKERS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)
PACKERS UNDER 46.5 (loss)
BEARS -6 (win)
CARDINALS OVER 51.5 (loss)
FALCONS UNDER 44.5 (win)

unJon (5-1)
EAGLES -3.5 (win)
BENGALS +5 (win)
CHARGERS -6.5 (win)
TEXANS +12.5 (loss)
PACKERS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)

scolist (6-0)
CARDINALS +6 (win)
PACKERS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)
STEELERS +3.5 (win)
SAINTS -6.5 (win)
TITANS -3 (win)

miplet (5-1)
EAGLES -3.5 (-6) (win)
BENGALS +5 (+3.5) (win)
SEAHAWKS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)
RAMS -4.5 (-6.5) (loss)
PACKERS -7 (-12.5) (win)

JW17 (0-5)
forfeit loss (2nd Skipped Week)
forfeit loss (2nd Skipped Week)
forfeit loss (2nd Skipped Week)
forfeit loss (2nd Skipped Week)
forfeit loss (2nd Skipped Week)


Standings Through Week 17

Name	Wins	Losses	%
RideTheEdge	67	34	66.34%
JohnZimbo	66	36	64.71%
unJon	60	40	60.00%
EdCollins	58	42	58.00%
PlayYourCardsRight	52	42	55.32%
jml24	45	39	53.57%
scolist	49	43	53.26%
miplet	51	45	53.13%
Mission146	49	46	51.58%
IndyJeffrey	51	48	51.52%
Joeman	51	49	51.00%
Gordonm888	50	50	50.00%
mwalz9	48	48	50.00%
Wizard	47	47	50.00%
FourFiveFace	50	51	49.50%
JW17*	47	48	49.47%
AZDuffman	44	49	47.31%
SOOPOO	47	54	46.53%
JohnnyQ	41	53	43.62%
GenWyzgy	41	54	43.16%
Sparty10k	38	63	37.62%
Totals	1,052	981	51.75%

Record of Skip Weeks
miplet: Week 2
JW17: Week 6, Week 17
jml24: Week 8
Mission146: Week 9
PlayYourCardsRight: Week 12
scolist: Week 12
GenWyzgy: Week 16
mwalz9: Week 16
AZDuffman: Week 17
JohnnyQ: Week 17
Wizard: Week 17

If I forget to mention it next week, thanks to everyone for playing, and thanks to Mission for hosting.

Let’s get that 12-way tie for Most Average!

Congratulations to Scolist on this week’s Perfection Bonus!

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If I forget to mention it next week, thanks to everyone for playing, and thanks to Mission for hosting.
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Thank you for posting the results and updated standings every week! More than lightening my load, you took the most time-consuming aspect of running the contest out of my hands!

I just now noticed that if one less point had been scored in the Vikings/Packers game, mwalz9 would have finished with a perfect 6-0 record this week. As it was, he finished 4-2.

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I just now noticed that if one less point had been scored in the Vikings/Packers game, mwalz9 would have finished with a perfect 6-0 record this week. As it was, he finished 4-2.
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So close to perfect this week!

4-2 did make me .500 exactly. Hoping I go 3-3 this week. I may just let my girlfriend blind pick 5 teams and hope the law of averages works out.

Quote: mwalz9

Quote: EdCollins

I just now noticed that if one less point had been scored in the Vikings/Packers game, mwalz9 would have finished with a perfect 6-0 record this week. As it was, he finished 4-2.
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So close to perfect this week!

4-2 did make me .500 exactly. Hoping I go 3-3 this week. I may just let my girlfriend blind pick 5 teams and hope the law of averages works out.
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Why not use your skip week?

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Let’s get that 12-way tie for Most Average!

Congratulations to Scolist on this week’s Perfection Bonus!
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Thank you Mission146 for the acknowledgement!

Best I was hoping for was staying close to the Most Average Club. 8^)!

It looks like there are exactly TWO players who essentially are playing for nothing in the final week. PlayYourCardsRight, and, of course, SOOPOO. Since exactly .500 will be obtained by using skip weeks, even if I’m perfect I only get to one game below .500, I can’t even challenge for being Mr. Average. At least PYCR has been too GOOD to approach Mr.Average, but not good enough for a top 3 spot.

Quote: scolist

Quote: Mission146

Let’s get that 12-way tie for Most Average!

Congratulations to Scolist on this week’s Perfection Bonus!
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Thank you Mission146 for the acknowledgement!

Best I was hoping for was staying close to the Most Average Club. 8^)!
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The Perfection Bonus might be almost as much with how many people could split the Most Average prize. Besides that, just do the exact opposite this week and you'll be .500 again!

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It looks like there are exactly TWO players who essentially are playing for nothing in the final week. PlayYourCardsRight, and, of course, SOOPOO. Since exactly .500 will be obtained by using skip weeks, even if I’m perfect I only get to one game below .500, I can’t even challenge for being Mr. Average. At least PYCR has been too GOOD to approach Mr.Average, but not good enough for a top 3 spot.
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There’s always the perfection bonus.

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Quote: EdCollins

I just now noticed that if one less point had been scored in the Vikings/Packers game, mwalz9 would have finished with a perfect 6-0 record this week. As it was, he finished 4-2.
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So close to perfect this week!

4-2 did make me .500 exactly. Hoping I go 3-3 this week. I may just let my girlfriend blind pick 5 teams and hope the law of averages works out.
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Why not use your skip week?
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I already did the week of Christmas. Way too busy to remember to make picks.

Gordon is the only one who can use a skip week to stay at .500. Wiz and myself already used ours.

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Gordon is the only one who can use a skip week to stay at .500. Wiz and myself already used ours.
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Barring a tie, you guys need to go 3-2, with confidence pick one of the losses, or 2-3, with confidence pick a win. Good luck! I assume Gordon will sit it out securing his averageness….

Well, crud. I can go for the most average prize but attempting to get a 1-4 week. Or I can go for the perfection bonus, by making a confidence pick.

With my luck, I'll go 5-0.

Quote: mwalz9

Gordon is the only one who can use a skip week to stay at .500. Wiz and myself already used ours.
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I will indeed be taking my Skip Week on week 18 to preserve my 0.500 record. It's just the most +EV thing I can do.

I have gone 19-5 in the past 4 weeks to raise my terrible picking record up to 0.500, so by having a good stretch run I do have a sense that I earned whatever fraction of the Most Average payout that I receive. Also, I am just a lucky son of a gun, lol.

Needs 0-6
jml24 45 39
scolist 49 43
miplet 51 45

Needs 1-4
Mission146 49 46
IndyJeffrey 51 48

Needs 2-4
Joeman 51 49

Need 3-3
Wizard 47-47
Mwalz9 48-48

Need 3-2
FourFiveFace 50 51
JW17* 47 48 (disqualified)

Needs 5-0
AZDuffman 44 49

Anyone care to estimate what the probabilities are of 1 through 11 winners of the Most Average Prize?

Open questions:
I assume that the Most Average contenders who need a record with an odd number of picks will all be declining to designate a confidence bet, correct?
Will Average contenders be preferring to bet on lines with fractional points (say O/U 47.5) to avoid the slight chance of a push outcome? (I personally would avoid wagering on a +3 spread.)

Good luck to everyone!

(Edited to note that JW17 has unfortunately been DQ'ed.)

Please note that, unfortunately, JW17 is no longer eligible for the Most Average Prize. (Two Skipped Weeks.)

So, your chances of you being the only person to win that prize just went up a little bit, from whatever you estimated earlier. :)

Edit: Whoops. Just now saw that your own post was edited to reflect this.

I have also added Wizard and Mwalz9 to the list, after inadvertently omitting them. I reckon that they have the highest chances of qualifying for the award of anyone on that list.