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IndyJeffrey
September 8th, 2021 at 5:28:52 PM permalink
For the past few contests, I seem to remember that our contestants' picks -as a group - had a somewhat low winning percentage in either Week#1 or Week#2. Week#1 has far more unknowns on which to base picks, but Week#2 is also treacherous because of the tendency to overvalue the teams that won in Week#1.

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FastEddie
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September 8th, 2021 at 6:23:53 PM permalink
The more unknowns the easier to spot the human error in the lines. And week two has a false factor as winners think they are invincible. I may wind up with my head handed to me but never liked after the fact know-it-alls. I care nothing about talent or lack of same . Just human errors in the posted lines.
Mission146
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September 9th, 2021 at 8:30:53 AM permalink
Probably going to post them up around 16:00 EST, for whoever wants to be the first to get them in.

Technically, second. Due to unavailability, one player made picks without knowing what the lines will be when they are posted.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
SOOPOO
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September 9th, 2021 at 11:43:43 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Probably going to post them up around 16:00 EST, for whoever wants to be the first to get them in.

Technically, second. Due to unavailability, one player made picks without knowing what the lines will be when they are posted.

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    I am glad you are allowing that. I thought in one of the rules you stated that to be an acceptable pick it had to have the team AND the spread. This way if you are unavailable th-su you can get legal picks in.
    Mission146
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    September 9th, 2021 at 11:49:37 AM permalink
    Quote: SOOPOO

    Quote: Mission146

    Probably going to post them up around 16:00 EST, for whoever wants to be the first to get them in.

    Technically, second. Due to unavailability, one player made picks without knowing what the lines will be when they are posted.

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    I am glad you are allowing that. I thought in one of the rules you stated that to be an acceptable pick it had to have the team AND the spread. This way if you are unavailable th-su you can get legal picks in.
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    True, but they would just send me the teams in a scenario such as this and I add whatever the spread happens to be to the Picks. Think of it as they are kind of disadvantaging themselves by partially making Picks in the dark, or at least, Picks with a little bit of time for possible variables that they would have otherwise known about.

    Also, these sorts of Picks will have to be made one week at a time (if done more than once) in a reasonable timeframe. Nobody can send multiple weeks in advance.
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    Mission146
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    September 9th, 2021 at 12:35:03 PM permalink
    Quote: miplet

    Below is a copy and paste and slightly edited of a previous post about the picks programs on my website:

    You can get the current lines in the same format that Mission148 uses by going to here. Copy all the text (ctr-a, ctr-c in windows). Then go to here, and paste (ctr-p) all the text in the box and click submit. If you did this now, you would get:

    Packers (-7) @ Bears (+7) O/U 49
    Chiefs (+1) @ Texans (-1) O/U 41
    Browns (+3.5) @ Jets (-3.5) O/U 39.5
    Colts (-2.5) @ Bills (+2.5) O/U 45
    Dolphins (-3.5) @ Redskins (+3.5) O/U 43.5
    Panthers (-3) @ Jaguars (+3) O/U 41
    Seahawks (-4) @ Rams (+4) O/U 40.5
    Saints (+2.5) @ Cardinals (-2.5) O/U 48.5
    Lions (+3) @ Chargers (-3) O/U 46
    Titans (+3) @ Buccaneers (-3) O/U 41
    Bengals (-3) @ Raiders (+3) O/U 43
    Ravens (+4.5) @ Broncos (-4.5) O/U 48
    Giants (+6) @ Cowboys (-6) O/U 51.5
    Eagles (-3) @ Falcons (+3) O/U 55
    Vikings (-2.5) @ 49ers (+2.5) O/U 41.5

    You will have to manually remove games we don't use eg Thursday or next weeks game.
    To compare the current lines to the WoV lines, just click on the compare lines button. Make sure the WoV lines is updated as it might be the previous week. If you did this now you would get:
    Jets -3 (-3.5)
    Jaguars UNDER 41.5 (41)
    Cardinals OVER 48 (48.5)
    Broncos UNDER 48.5 (48)

    The number in parenthesis is the current line.
    You can get random picks here. Just check it is for the current week.
    Let me know of any errors ,questions, comments, or suggestions.
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    With a huge thank you to Miplet who, like EdCollins, has made this game SO much easier to run:

    GREETINGS!

    The Week 1 Lines are as follows:

    Steelers (+6.5) @ Bills (-6.5) O/U 48.5
    Jets (+4) @ Panthers (-4) O/U 44
    Jaguars (-3) @ Texans (+3) O/U 45
    Cardinals (+3) @ Titans (-3) O/U 52
    Chargers (+1) @ Redskins (-1) O/U 44.5
    Eagles (+3.5) @ Falcons (-3.5) O/U 48
    Seahawks (-3) @ Colts (+3) O/U 49.5
    Vikings (-3) @ Bengals (+3) O/U 47.5
    49ers (-7.5) @ Lions (+7.5) O/U 45.5
    Browns (+5.5) @ Chiefs (-5.5) O/U 54
    Dolphins (+3) @ Patriots (-3) O/U 43.5
    Broncos (-3) @ Giants (+3) O/U 41.5
    Bears (+7.5) @ Rams (-7.5) O/U 47
    Packers (-4) @ Saints (+4) O/U 50
    Ravens (-4.5) @ Raiders (+4.5) O/U 50.5

    As a reminder, every player MUST make five unique picks against the spread, the Over/Under, or any combination totaling exactly five Picks.

    An optional, "Confidence Pick," may be made which will count as either two wins, or two losses, unless it pushes. While the Confidence Pick itself is optional, you MUST make a Confidence Pick in order to qualify for the, "Perfection Bonus," for any given week.

    There are no applicable, "Early Games," this week, so ALL Picks are due at, or before, 10:00 EST on Sunday, September 12th.

    It's good to be back!

    Week 1 Perfection Bonus: $10 (Will be split in the event of multiple winners and rounded up to the nearest dollar, if needed)
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    Mission146
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    September 9th, 2021 at 12:51:01 PM permalink
    Greetings!

    PM's have been sent to the round of people who met the first invitation criteria. (Played in 2019 or expressed interest in this thread)

    A reminder PM will also be sent on Saturday. I have a new way of doing reminders that is much faster, but it means that everyone is going to end up getting one. If you receive a Reminder PM, please do not take it to mean that I did not get your Picks if you have already made them.

    Typically, there will not be a PM that goes out on Thursdays. I only did that because this is Week 1.
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    SOOPOO
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    September 9th, 2021 at 12:51:35 PM permalink
    Mission has the Chargers playing a team that is not in the NFL. I am assuming he meant the Washington Football Team.
    Mission146
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    September 9th, 2021 at 12:54:05 PM permalink
    Quote: SOOPOO

    Mission has the Chargers playing a team that is not in the NFL. I am assuming he meant the Washington Football Team.

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    "Football Team," or, "Redskins," will both be acceptable for team nickname. My guess is that Miplet's program read, "Washington," and the change has not been made for the team nickname, as yet. I imagine EdCollins will also have to add it to his program to recognize, "Football Team," as being the Redskins.
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    Mission146
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    September 9th, 2021 at 1:05:43 PM permalink
    One other thing: I haven't heard from BBB, so would anyone like to volunteer to receive my Picks every week?

    You'll have to have the PMs sit in your Inbox until the end of the season, so keep that in mind.

    The reason that I must PM my Picks to someone is that the timestamp from when I sent the PM will prove that I made my Picks prior to looking at Picks that anyone else made, as I can provide a screenshot with the timestamp of when I opened the Picks of others. I don't think there would ever be an issue, even if I won, but this method of me PM'ing my Picks to someone guarantees the integrity of the game.
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