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Wisdom is knowing not to put it in the fruit salad.
Philosophy is wondering if a Bloody Mary is a smoothie.
Quote: billryanKnowledge is knowing the tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is knowing not to put it in the fruit salad.
Philosophy is wondering if a Bloody Mary is a smoothie.
thank you so very much sir for taking the time to educate
and for sharing your great wisdom
it is truly appreciated
btw the first 2 lines of what your wrote are Nathan/Karen/Tasha's signature at another forum
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Quote: lilredroosterQuote: billryanKnowledge is knowing the tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is knowing not to put it in the fruit salad.
Philosophy is wondering if a Bloody Mary is a smoothie.
thank you so very much sir for taking the time to educate
and for sharing your great wisdom
it is truly appreciated
btw the first 2 lines of what your wrote are Nathan/Karen/Tasha's signature at another forum
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You're welcome. It's what I do while waiting for one of those four or five moments to occur.
Anthony Edwards in a rant dissed the NBA's older generation of greats - absolute nonsense imo
from the link:
Edwards said:
“They say it was tougher back then than it is now, but I don’t think anybody had skill back then. (Michael Jordan) was the only one that really had skill, you know what I mean? So that’s why when they saw Kobe (Bryant), they were like, ‘Oh, my God.’ But now everybody has skill.”
That chirp didn’t land well on Magic Johnson’s ears.
The Los Angeles Lakers legend, who won five titles in the 1980s, told ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith that Edwards needs a ring of his own before he can start making such claims.
“I don’t never respond to a guy that’s never won a championship,” Johnson said. “There’s not nothing to really say. He didn’t win a college championship, I don’t know if he even won a high school championship.”
In summation, Edwards spoke on a topic he said he couldn’t speak on, which set off a firestorm. Johnson said he doesn’t respond to players who don’t have championships, but responded anyway. Thomas, who is active in replying and debating with fans on X, had plenty of thoughts to add as well.
Edwards, who just turned 23 earlier this month, is no stranger to eye-catching quotes. Earlier this summer, he called himself the No. 1 option for Team USA before the team’s gold-medal run. In 2022, he called himself “Black Jesus.” And most virally, in May he told TBS analyst Charles Barkley to “Bring ya ass” to Minnesota for the Western Conference finals.
Through four seasons, Edwards has made two All-Star teams and led the Timberwolves to their farthest playoff run in decades. That recent trip to the Western Conference finals proved to be the end of the road for Minnesota, however, as Edwards’ first ring — and thus Johnson’s response — still eludes him.
Additionally in his interview with the WSJ, Edwards said he isn’t in much of a rush to win that first title, saying it doesn’t necessarily need to arrive this coming season.
“I don’t know too many guys who won a championship super young, besides Kobe,” he said. “Other than him, everybody took years and years of losing to get there. I just want to keep taking the next step.”
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To his comment about not knowing anyone who won a title super young other than Kobe: Magic Johnson won it his rookie season after playing one college season…..Lew Alcindor/Kareem won in his third season, Spurs greats Tim Duncan and Kawhi Leonard each won titles in their second year after 4 years of college. There’s surely several hall of famers who have done the same, that’s just what I could think of of the top of my head and could confirm quickly.
Surely players are more skilled now, that’s just the way things naturally progress in anything, but yeah, Edwards really had no clue what he was talking about here.
I admit I don't know a lot about the modern game - I'm not nearly as much of a fan as I once was
yes, the skill level has increased - but players out there better than Magic or Larry Bird_________?- idk - that would be shocking to me
those 2 along with MJ and Kobe who Edwards acknowledged are the best players I've ever seen in my entire life
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I admit I don't know a lot about the modern game - I'm not nearly as much of a fan as I once was
yes, the skill level has increased - but players out there better than Magic or Larry Bird_________?- idk - that would be shocking to me
those 2 along with MJ and Kobe who Edwards acknowledged are the best players I've ever seen in my entire life
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Man, hate to do it a few days after his birthday, but I think Kobe is like fringe top 10 and overrated by many. If I had to rank him he’d be alongside Shaq and Hakeem at the fringe of the top 10. Kareem and LeBron gotta be higher for me, and I’d take Tim Duncan too. Of course Wilt and Bill Russell belong in the conversation, but probably not realistically more skilled than modern players. Wilt and Shaq have similarities in that the skill level probably isn’t all that relevant, they were just so incredibly physically dominating forces.
I’m going to assume you just forgot to mention LeBron….others have an argument for a better peak or 5 year run, but no one’s ever done it better for longer. Kobe was blessed to go to LA as well, Shaq isn’t leaving Orlando for Cleveland if Kobe had been in Cleveland.
I loved watching Jerry West as I was growing up - he was so great - very, very quick - and I think he could have got that J of his off even in today's game
there were no 3s when West played - if there were I believe he would have crushed the game even more
his teammate Elgin Baylor was so great too - he was really the originator of some of the high flying moves that are now so common
but I have to admit, as great as they were, they were not as great as the players so far mentioned
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For years now, elite players have been identified early on, and most have access to world-class facilities. They learn skills that the previous generation had never used. In the 1980s, a forward who could hit a 15-17 foot jump shot was exceptional. Now, that shot is rarely even taken.
woops____________I almost forgot the Big O - Oscar Robertson
he should never be forgotten
he's the only player in history other than Russell Westbrook to average a triple double for an entire season
his skills were not equal to those Mac mentioned
but his total dominance during his era was complete
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I’m on the mobile at the airport so can’t post it, but that moonball he hit over Wembenyama when he went off in the gold medal game was unreal.
Quote: mcallister3200I’m on the mobile at the airport so can’t post it, but that moonball he hit over Wembenyama when he went off in the gold medal game was unreal.
I wonder if you knew about the 60 footer that Jerry West hit to tie a finals game at the buzzer at the end of regulation against the Knicks
the Lakers then went on to lose the game in OT and then later lost the series
I remember some commentator said "that's like the U.S. losing WW2 after bombing Hiroshima"_______________________(-:/
another crazy thing is that Willis Reed almost blocked that shot
also we didn't mention the Doctor - he's got to be in there somewhere
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Quote: lilredroosterQuote: mcallister3200I’m on the mobile at the airport so can’t post it, but that moonball he hit over Wembenyama when he went off in the gold medal game was unreal.
I wonder if you knew about the 60 footer that Jerry West hit to tie a finals game at the buzzer at the end of regulation against the Knicks
the Lakers then went on to lose the game in OT
I remember some commentator said "that's like the U.S. losing WW2 after bombing Hiroshima"_______________________(-:/
another crazy thing is that Willis Reed almost blocked that shot
also we didn't mention the Doctor - he's got to be in there somewhere
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Yep, posted it a while back. Pretty sure we’ve done the reposts a couple times now ;) Funny thing is if 3 pointers existed they would have won the game on it.
Quote: mcallister3200Quote: lilredroosterQuote: mcallister3200I’m on the mobile at the airport so can’t post it, but that moonball he hit over Wembenyama when he went off in the gold medal game was unreal.
I wonder if you knew about the 60 footer that Jerry West hit to tie a finals game at the buzzer at the end of regulation against the Knicks
the Lakers then went on to lose the game in OT
I remember some commentator said "that's like the U.S. losing WW2 after bombing Hiroshima"_______________________(-:/
another crazy thing is that Willis Reed almost blocked that shot
also we didn't mention the Doctor - he's got to be in there somewhere
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Yep, posted it a while back. Pretty sure we’ve done the reposts a couple times now ;) Funny thing is if 3 pointers existed they would have won the game on it.
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The ABA had the 3-point shot, but it wasn't understood. The Nets only shot 372 of them the last year of the ABA, and it was mostly used when trying to make a comeback.The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
Elgin Baylor is from DC as I am
he was a legend in DC
one time in the summer he came with his buddies to our local courts to shoot around
what a thrill it was to see him there - I'll never forget it -
Baylor holds the record for most points in a finals game - 61 against the Celtics
in 1961 Baylor finished with 63 points, 31 rebounds, and seven assists in leading the Lakers to a 151-147 triple-overtime victory over Philly with Chamberlain. Making this more ridiculous for Baylor is that, despite only being in his fourth season, it was just his third-highest scoring game. He dropped 71 points in 1960, and 64 points in 1959.
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Chauncey is a seriously underrapreciated player who's getting inducted into the Hall of Fame this year. Sort of had his numbers suppressed while leading the Pistons to a title because it was to their advantage to slow the game down, make teams play against their great defense in the halfcourt.
I like the last angle where it's not apparent Iverson kinda took a dive, he looks back at Billups and says "damn.' If anyone knows a great crossover when he saw it, it's Iverson. Billups has said Iverson was the player he feared the most.
another blast from the past
Wilt blocks 2 of Kareem's "unstoppable" sky hooks in a row
Wilt was 36 years old at the time - Kareem was just 25__________________________________(-:/
This appears to be a clip from Game 6 of the 1972 Western Conference Finals when Wilt took over the game in the 4th quarter. In the last 4 games of that series, Wilt blocked 33 shots and held Kareem to a FG % of .414. Wilt was simply the most dominant player in NBA history.
this was the only year that Jerry West won a Championship
there was a lot of concern that this great player would never win one in his career
Elgin Baylor had retired only 9 games into the season with injuries
sadly, Baylor is regarded by many as the greatest player to have never won a Championship
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I believe there was some doubt that Caitlin Clark would be tremendous in the NBA and she did not start very strong
but she's hitting on all cylinders now
from the link:_________________________WOW____!!!
What WNBA records has Clark broken?
Single-game assists: Clark set a WNBA single-game record with 19 assists on July 17 vs. the Dallas Wings.
Rookie triple-double: Clark recorded the first triple-double for a rookie in WNBA history on July 6 against the New York Liberty. It was also the first triple-double in Fever history.
Points-rebounds-assists: During the first half of the season, Clark became the first rookie in WNBA history to record 400 points, 100 rebounds and 150 assists in a season.
Assists: On Aug. 18, Clark broke the record for most assists by a rookie. She now has 247.
All-Star Game assists: Clark made her All-Star Game debut in July and recorded the most assists (10) by a rookie in the exhibition.
Rookie single-game 3-pointers: Clark made seven 3-pointers in Indiana’s June 7 win over the Washington Mystics.
Turnovers: This one isn’t so great. Clark became the WNBA all-time leader in turnovers in a debut game, with 10 in the Fever’s opener against the Connecticut Sun. She also has set the WNBA rookie record for most total turnovers, with 164 and has the most turnovers by any player, no matter experience level, in WNBA history.
Points-assists: Against the Dream, Clark notched her 21st game with 15 points and 5 assists — the most such games in a single WNBA season.
What other records can she break this season?
Points: Clark might not pass Cynthia Cooper’s WNBA rookie record for points per game average (22.2), but she is just over 200 points away from setting the WNBA rookie record for total points (744), which Seimone Augustus did in 2006 — albeit in 34 games.
Minutes: Clark has played 1,060 minutes this season. If she maintains her current average (35.3) she will pass her teammate Aliyah Boston’s WNBA rookie record for minutes (1,249) within the final five games of Indiana’s regular season.
Point-assist double-doubles: Clark’s eight point-assist double-doubles are already the most of any rookie in WNBA history, but she needs just four more to pass Courtney Vandersloot’s overall record of 11, which was set in 2017.
Free-throw percentage: Clark is shooting 89.92 percent at the free-throw line, but she could still pass Elena Delle Donne’s rookie record of 92.9 by season’s end.
Total assists: Clark has 247 assists this season, just 69 behind Alyssa Thomas, who holds the all-time record with 316. If Clark maintains her average of 8.2 assists per game, she would set that record in one of her final games of the season.
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I believe there was some doubt that Caitlin Clark would be tremendous in the NBA and she did not start very strong
but she's hitting on all cylinders now
from the link:_________________________WOW____!!!
What WNBA records has Clark broken?
Single-game assists: Clark set a WNBA single-game record with 19 assists on July 17 vs. the Dallas Wings.
Rookie triple-double: Clark recorded the first triple-double for a rookie in WNBA history on July 6 against the New York Liberty. It was also the first triple-double in Fever history.
Points-rebounds-assists: During the first half of the season, Clark became the first rookie in WNBA history to record 400 points, 100 rebounds and 150 assists in a season.
Assists: On Aug. 18, Clark broke the record for most assists by a rookie. She now has 247.
All-Star Game assists: Clark made her All-Star Game debut in July and recorded the most assists (10) by a rookie in the exhibition.
Rookie single-game 3-pointers: Clark made seven 3-pointers in Indiana’s June 7 win over the Washington Mystics.
Turnovers: This one isn’t so great. Clark became the WNBA all-time leader in turnovers in a debut game, with 10 in the Fever’s opener against the Connecticut Sun. She also has set the WNBA rookie record for most total turnovers, with 164 and has the most turnovers by any player, no matter experience level, in WNBA history.
Points-assists: Against the Dream, Clark notched her 21st game with 15 points and 5 assists — the most such games in a single WNBA season.
What other records can she break this season?
Points: Clark might not pass Cynthia Cooper’s WNBA rookie record for points per game average (22.2), but she is just over 200 points away from setting the WNBA rookie record for total points (744), which Seimone Augustus did in 2006 — albeit in 34 games.
Minutes: Clark has played 1,060 minutes this season. If she maintains her current average (35.3) she will pass her teammate Aliyah Boston’s WNBA rookie record for minutes (1,249) within the final five games of Indiana’s regular season.
Point-assist double-doubles: Clark’s eight point-assist double-doubles are already the most of any rookie in WNBA history, but she needs just four more to pass Courtney Vandersloot’s overall record of 11, which was set in 2017.
Free-throw percentage: Clark is shooting 89.92 percent at the free-throw line, but she could still pass Elena Delle Donne’s rookie record of 92.9 by season’s end.
Total assists: Clark has 247 assists this season, just 69 behind Alyssa Thomas, who holds the all-time record with 316. If Clark maintains her average of 8.2 assists per game, she would set that record in one of her final games of the season.
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If Caitlan Clark smashes all sorts of records held by someone 99% of the population hasn't heard of, why should I care?
Here is a number I don't hear discussed much: The NBA will lose over fifty million dollars subsidizing this year's WNBA, five times more than last year. The switch to charter flights, better-class hotels, and increased security, as well as moving games to bigger arenas, has caused costs to skyrocket, with revenues not matching them.
The NBA has been losing ten to twenty million dollars a year on the league for years. How long will they continue when the costs skyrocket to fifty to a hundred million? The increased television ratings are meaningless as the WNBA package is part of the overall
multi-billion dollar NBA package
I am especially excited to watch Colorado vs ND State and Minnesota vs North Carolina
Quote: DRichOver 20 college football games tonight.
I am especially excited to watch Colorado vs ND State and Minnesota vs North Carolina
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Football before Labor Day just feels wrong.
Quote: billryanQuote: lilredrooster.
I believe there was some doubt that Caitlin Clark would be tremendous in the NBA and she did not start very strong
but she's hitting on all cylinders now
from the link:_________________________WOW____!!!
What WNBA records has Clark broken?
Single-game assists: Clark set a WNBA single-game record with 19 assists on July 17 vs. the Dallas Wings.
Rookie triple-double: Clark recorded the first triple-double for a rookie in WNBA history on July 6 against the New York Liberty. It was also the first triple-double in Fever history.
Points-rebounds-assists: During the first half of the season, Clark became the first rookie in WNBA history to record 400 points, 100 rebounds and 150 assists in a season.
Assists: On Aug. 18, Clark broke the record for most assists by a rookie. She now has 247.
All-Star Game assists: Clark made her All-Star Game debut in July and recorded the most assists (10) by a rookie in the exhibition.
Rookie single-game 3-pointers: Clark made seven 3-pointers in Indiana’s June 7 win over the Washington Mystics.
Turnovers: This one isn’t so great. Clark became the WNBA all-time leader in turnovers in a debut game, with 10 in the Fever’s opener against the Connecticut Sun. She also has set the WNBA rookie record for most total turnovers, with 164 and has the most turnovers by any player, no matter experience level, in WNBA history.
Points-assists: Against the Dream, Clark notched her 21st game with 15 points and 5 assists — the most such games in a single WNBA season.
What other records can she break this season?
Points: Clark might not pass Cynthia Cooper’s WNBA rookie record for points per game average (22.2), but she is just over 200 points away from setting the WNBA rookie record for total points (744), which Seimone Augustus did in 2006 — albeit in 34 games.
Minutes: Clark has played 1,060 minutes this season. If she maintains her current average (35.3) she will pass her teammate Aliyah Boston’s WNBA rookie record for minutes (1,249) within the final five games of Indiana’s regular season.
Point-assist double-doubles: Clark’s eight point-assist double-doubles are already the most of any rookie in WNBA history, but she needs just four more to pass Courtney Vandersloot’s overall record of 11, which was set in 2017.
Free-throw percentage: Clark is shooting 89.92 percent at the free-throw line, but she could still pass Elena Delle Donne’s rookie record of 92.9 by season’s end.
Total assists: Clark has 247 assists this season, just 69 behind Alyssa Thomas, who holds the all-time record with 316. If Clark maintains her average of 8.2 assists per game, she would set that record in one of her final games of the season.
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If Caitlan Clark smashes all sorts of records held by someone 99% of the population hasn't heard of, why should I care?
Here is a number I don't hear discussed much: The NBA will lose over fifty million dollars subsidizing this year's WNBA, five times more than last year. The switch to charter flights, better-class hotels, and increased security, as well as moving games to bigger arenas, has caused costs to skyrocket, with revenues not matching them.
The NBA has been losing ten to twenty million dollars a year on the league for years. How long will they continue when the costs skyrocket to fifty to a hundred million? The increased television ratings are meaningless as the WNBA package is part of the overall
multi-billion dollar NBA package
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The NBA is making money hand over fist. They can afford to cross-subsidize the WNBA.
Quote: billryanThey can subsidize it all they want, but what is the point of an entertainment league that doesn't make money? What does it tell a young girl? You grow up to be the most prominent female star in your sport, and you'll make less than a first-year associate at a mid-level accounting firm
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It says women's sports are valuable enough to keep supporting.
Imagine how many college sports would be lost if colleges applied that same mentality to intercollegiate athletics.
As far as the pay, I hear you. If they can make more-much more-money doing something else, they should do that. That's why many of them go overseas.
Quote: billryanYou grow up to be the most prominent female star in your sport, and you'll make less than a first-year associate at a mid-level accounting firm
so much more fun to play hoops for a living and travel around the country with your buddies than to crunch numbers for some corporation that doesn't give a sh** about you
their salaries will go up as stars like Caitlin bring more attention to the game
from the link - the history of NBA labor
"Prior to the 1968-69 season, the union and NBA agreed on their first revision of the standard players contract which would increase salaries with the minimum rookie salary raised to $10,000 for 1968-69 and $13,000 in 1970-71 and the minimum pensioned veteran's salary raised to $12,500 in 1968-69 and $13,500 in 1969-70."
$10 K in 1970 is about equal to $81K today - $13,500 K in 1970 is about equal to $108 K today
the current average salary of NBA players is about $12 million per year - Lebron makes 47.5 million per year
https://www.apbr.org/labor.html
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Quote: lilredrooster] Lebron makes 47.5 million per year
And lots more than that from endorsements and other business interests. First active player to have a net worth greater than $1 Billion.
Quote: lilredroosterQuote: billryanYou grow up to be the most prominent female star in your sport, and you'll make less than a first-year associate at a mid-level accounting firm
so much more fun to play hoops for a living and travel around the country with your buddies than to crunch numbers for some corporation that doesn't give a sh** about you
their salaries will go up as stars like Caitlin bring more attention to the game
from the link - the history of NBA labor
"Prior to the 1968-69 season, the union and NBA agreed on their first revision of the standard players contract which would increase salaries with the minimum rookie salary raised to $10,000 for 1968-69 and $13,000 in 1970-71 and the minimum pensioned veteran's salary raised to $12,500 in 1968-69 and $13,500 in 1969-70."
$10 K in 1970 is about equal to $81K today - $13,500 K in 1970 is about equal to $108 K today
the current average salary of NBA players is about $12 million per year - Lebron makes 47.5 million per year
https://www.apbr.org/labor.html
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The league will lose 50 million dollars this year. Where will the money to raise everyone's salary come from?
Many NBA players had second jobs in the 1960s. Television money at the time was nothing., but then it became a big factor. It leads to players making more money. I don't see that happening again.
To put things in perspective- The ABA didn't have a national TV contract, and only its All-Star game was televised. While all Knicks
home games were broadcast locally, only a few Nets games were. Without television money, the ABA couldn't keep competing with the NBA.
Some WNBA games have sold many tickets, but others have not. At some point, won't NBA season ticket holders be fed up with subsidizing a league few care about.
Quote:At some point, won't NBA season ticket holders be fed up with subsidizing a league few care about.
No. Season ticket holders could care less.
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote:At some point, won't NBA season ticket holders be fed up with subsidizing a league few care about.
No. Season ticket holders could care less.
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Do you know a lot of NBA season ticket holders?
Quote: billryanQuote: GenoDRPhQuote:At some point, won't NBA season ticket holders be fed up with subsidizing a league few care about.
No. Season ticket holders could care less.
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Do you know a lot of NBA season ticket holders?
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A few. I live in Boston. To the best of my recollection, not a single one complains about the cost of their tickets (because the Celts are a winning franchise), much less how much the subsidy to the WNBA adds to the price of a season ticket. And I am willing to bet, on a per game basis, the added cost is small.
I also know one or two Patriots season ticket holders. But, they have gone quiet since Brady and then Bill left.
another one of my back in the day faves - "Tiny" or if you prefer "Nate the Skate"
listed at 6'1" many claimed in reality he couldn't be much more than 5'10"
one year he averaged 34 and 11 assists - unreal
often when he beat a player off the dribble - he didn't just beat him - he beat him by 3 or 4 steps
he was so very, very quick
this is the best vid of him but I had to mute the hard core rap music which I can't stand
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His best individual]dual years were in the early part of his career, but he was a big part of Boston's title teams.
prolly the last of my back in the day specials
they called it "The Game of the Century" in 1968 between UCLA with Lew Alcindor (Kareem) and Elvin Hayes, the Big E - of Houston
it was played in the Astrodome before 52,693 fans - at the time the largest crowd to see a b-ball game anywhere in the world
Alcindor had an eye injury and was not at full strength - E was a trash talker and was quoted as saying Alcindor was overrated - which of course wasn't true
when Elvin had the ball the Houston fans would yell Eeeeeee_______Eeeeee
from Espn:
"In a basketball game that makes fans in Texas forget football temporarily, No. 2 and undefeated Houston ends No. 1 UCLA's 47-game winning streak with a 71-69 victory at the Astrodome before 52,693, at the time the largest crowd to see a college basketball game.
Houston forward Elvin Hayes outplays UCLA star Lew Alcindor, who is returning after missing two games with an injury to his left eye and is still bothered by the injury. The Big E outscores Alcindor 39-15 and hits two free throws with 28 seconds left to snap a 69-69 tie.
In Houston's 18th straight win, Hayes makes 17-of-25 field goals, grabs 15 rebounds and blocks four shots, although playing the last 11 minutes with four fouls. A sluggish Alcindor shoots 4-of-15 from the field and has 12 rebounds.
UCLA will gain its revenge in the Final Four, routing Houston, 101-69, in the semis. Alcindor will score 19 points and grab 18 rebounds compared to Hayes' 10 points and five rebounds".
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I’m sure we’ll hear about how she will now be prioritizing her mental health…..
Quote: SOOPOOHoly cow. Another mental breakdown from a top female tennis player. Coco Gauff. Cracked under the pressure. Had NINETEEN double faults in her match. Maybe 6 in her Las two games with the match on the line. Some kids were moving around in the stands with big tennis balls that they get signed after the match. She looked like she was choking back tears. An incredibly poorly played match. In 3 sets there were so few winners…..
I’m sure we’ll hear about how she will now be prioritizing her mental health…..
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Coco had three games in the last set where she double faulted 3 times! I imagine most pros never double fault 3 times in any game ever. I suspect Coco will take the autumn off and return in January to get ready for the Australian Open. In between, she needs to get her head straight and the mechanics of her serve fixed. Certainly an epic meltdown from a usually reliable player, but I question whether it was a mental illness issue, per se.
the truly amazing Shohei Ohtani just set a record - all the while performing great as a pitcher - he's a once in a lifetime player
That’s because, with an eighth-inning homer, Ohtani became the first MLB player with 43 home runs and 43 stolen bases in the same season
Ohtani remains on pace for even higher marks. Through Friday’s win, he’s on pace for the first 50-50 season in major-league history. And with two more nights like Friday, he’ll match Rickey Henderson for the major-league record of most such games in a single season (13, in 1986)
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the truly amazing Shohei Ohtani just set a record - all the while performing great as a pitcher - he's a once in a lifetime player
That’s because, with an eighth-inning homer, Ohtani became the first MLB player with 43 home runs and 43 stolen bases in the same season
Ohtani remains on pace for even higher marks. Through Friday’s win, he’s on pace for the first 50-50 season in major-league history. And with two more nights like Friday, he’ll match Rickey Henderson for the major-league record of most such games in a single season (13, in 1986)
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O hasn't pitched at all this year. He is having an amazing season.
Quote: billryanQuote: lilredrooster.
the truly amazing Shohei Ohtani just set a record - all the while performing great as a pitcher - he's a once in a lifetime player
That’s because, with an eighth-inning homer, Ohtani became the first MLB player with 43 home runs and 43 stolen bases in the same season
Ohtani remains on pace for even higher marks. Through Friday’s win, he’s on pace for the first 50-50 season in major-league history. And with two more nights like Friday, he’ll match Rickey Henderson for the major-league record of most such games in a single season (13, in 1986)
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O hasn't pitched at all this year. He is having an amazing season.
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Stolen bases are markedly easier than in previous years. It’s a double whammy. The pitcher being limited in pickoff attempts is the major factor. The bases being larger helps the runners in two ways. It is a slightly shorter distance between the bases, and the larger bases allow the runner a larger landing zone to avoid a tag.
That being said, Ohtani is of course the best combination of baseball power and speed in MLB history. I’m hoping he makes 50/50.
A couple of ex-Mariners might object to your calling him the best combination of power and speed.
Quote: billryanI love stolen bases and expect them to be even more prevalent when the tournament starts. I only watch the Yankees, so I don't see Ohtani play much. Hopefully, they will meet in the World Series.
A couple of ex-Mariners might object to your calling him the best combination of power and speed.
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Griffey Jr. averaged around 8 stolen bases per year
A Rod around 15.
I’ll accept A Rod as he did steal 40 3 times. But Griffey’s max was only 24.
If memory serves me Griffey was also walked a zillion times giving him lots of stolen base opportunities. More than Ohtani.
I still hold a grudge against Ohtani. Twice, he has been 99% committed to the Yankees and backed out, which is why they didn't chase him this last time.
Quote: billryanI was surprised by Griffey's low total. He shut his running game down as he got older.
I still hold a grudge against Ohtani. Twice, he has been 99% committed to the Yankees and backed out, which is why they didn't chase him this last time.
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The only time an athlete and a team are committed to each other is when both of their signatures are on the dotted line.
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanI was surprised by Griffey's low total. He shut his running game down as he got older.
I still hold a grudge against Ohtani. Twice, he has been 99% committed to the Yankees and backed out, which is why they didn't chase him this last time.
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The only time an athlete and a team are committed to each other is when both of their signatures are on the dotted line.
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That doesn't mean I can't hold an irrational grudge over something he did as a seventeen-year-old!
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanI was surprised by Griffey's low total. He shut his running game down as he got older.
I still hold a grudge against Ohtani. Twice, he has been 99% committed to the Yankees and backed out, which is why they didn't chase him this last time.
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The only time an athlete and a team are committed to each other is when both of their signatures are on the dotted line.
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Not even close to true. I can give you a list a mile long of NFL players holding out despite being ‘under contract’.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanI was surprised by Griffey's low total. He shut his running game down as he got older.
I still hold a grudge against Ohtani. Twice, he has been 99% committed to the Yankees and backed out, which is why they didn't chase him this last time.
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The only time an athlete and a team are committed to each other is when both of their signatures are on the dotted line.
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Not even close to true. I can give you a list a mile long of NFL players holding out despite being ‘under contract’.
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Can that athlete go play for another team? He can't, because he is committed to that team. He plays for them, or he plays nowhere.
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: SOOPOOQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanI was surprised by Griffey's low total. He shut his running game down as he got older.
I still hold a grudge against Ohtani. Twice, he has been 99% committed to the Yankees and backed out, which is why they didn't chase him this last time.
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The only time an athlete and a team are committed to each other is when both of their signatures are on the dotted line.
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Not even close to true. I can give you a list a mile long of NFL players holding out despite being ‘under contract’.
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Can that athlete go play for another team? He can't, because he is committed to that team. He plays for them, or he plays nowhere.
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You use the word committed far differently than I do. I don’t consider a player who sits out a year while under contract ‘committed’ to the team. I guess you do.
Moving on to real sports talk. Possibility of a Navarro/Pegula matchup at the US Open. It would be the first time two daughters of billionaires meet in a U.S. Open match.
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: SOOPOOQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanI was surprised by Griffey's low total. He shut his running game down as he got older.
I still hold a grudge against Ohtani. Twice, he has been 99% committed to the Yankees and backed out, which is why they didn't chase him this last time.
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The only time an athlete and a team are committed to each other is when both of their signatures are on the dotted line.
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Not even close to true. I can give you a list a mile long of NFL players holding out despite being ‘under contract’.
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Can that athlete go play for another team? He can't, because he is committed to that team. He plays for them, or he plays nowhere.
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You use the word committed far differently than I do. I don’t consider a player who sits out a year while under contract ‘committed’ to the team. I guess you do.
Moving on to real sports talk. Possibility of a Navarro/Pegula matchup at the US Open. It would be the first time two daughters of billionaires meet in a U.S. Open match.
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Maybe "bound" is a better word to use? How 'bout "obligated"?
Moving back to real sports talk, my BC Eagles layed the smack-down and pitched an upset over FSU, 28-13.
