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February 21st, 2022 at 7:52:13 AM permalink
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The Madison Square Garden security was able to handle 6-9 Charles Oakley pretty well when the Knicks owner had him removed.
I'm not sure comparing arena security guards to the ones involved with team security is very accurate.
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Your right. At the same time, it’s not the 80’s or 90’s anymore and they ganged up on him. He’s still big but Oakley is otherwise pretty much just an old man now. I might be willing to tell him so, but I’d immediately duck and run if I did.
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February 21st, 2022 at 8:11:57 AM permalink
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The Madison Square Garden security was able to handle 6-9 Charles Oakley pretty well when the Knicks owner had him removed.
I'm not sure comparing arena security guards to the ones involved with team security is very accurate.
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Your right. At the same time, it’s not the 80’s or 90’s anymore. He’s still big but Oakley is otherwise pretty much just an old man now. I might be willing to tell him so, but I’d immediately duck and run if I did.
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Oakley was around 55 at the time of the incident and it looks like he could still whoop some ass if he wanted to.
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February 21st, 2022 at 8:14:17 AM permalink
Anyone who’s not in their 20’s anymore feels old sometimes and their body performs like it. A hard truth. People can lift to maintain strength but that quick twitch explosion that generates force quickly goes and isn’t coming back. Obviously there’s levels to it but anyone over 40-50 is older than average and well past peak physically. They ganged up on him too not like it was man vs man.
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February 21st, 2022 at 10:53:42 AM permalink
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Anyone who’s not in their 20’s anymore feels old sometimes and their body performs like it. A hard truth. People can lift to maintain strength but that quick twitch explosion that generates force quickly goes and isn’t coming back. Obviously there’s levels to it but anyone over 40-50 is older than average and well past peak physically. They ganged up on him too not like it was man vs man.
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I have felt old since about the age of 15. Today at 55 I am guessing I feel like a typical 75 year old.
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February 21st, 2022 at 2:46:55 PM permalink
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the evolution of players abilities in sports is quite amazing - I haven't looked at track and field records though

mainly I'm thinking about basketball

the players today are so much more physically gifted than the players from back in the day

the best of them jump higher, are quicker, are faster and are stronger - it's not a small difference - it's a big difference

some of that can be explained by better equipment for working out and nutrition - but not all of it

for example - Bob Cousy began his NBA career in 1950 and ended it in 1963 - he was considered one of the greatest players out there

I've watched films of Bob Cousy and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that by 1968 there were a great many high school players - guards - who could wipe the floor with Bob Cousy - if they played against him when he was in his prime - I'm not trying to knock the guy or beat up on him - just realistically - they were much quicker than him - and could jump way, way higher

and it didn't have anything to do with working out with weights or nutrition - I believe it was due to the natural evolution and improvement of the human body over time



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February 21st, 2022 at 3:06:17 PM permalink
I'm pretty sure evolution doesn't work like that. You are talking about one generation. Individuals have improved their bodies, kids get much better coaching, they get better nutrition and the money is incredible. The talent pool has expanded worldwide, with kids joining elite programs by the time they are 12.
Today's league is much more athletic as a whole, but I still think Wilt is the best athlete in NBA history.
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February 21st, 2022 at 3:57:21 PM permalink
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Individuals have improved their bodies, kids get much better coaching, they get better nutrition
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the great high school players I saw from around 1968 and 1969 didn't get great because of nutrition or from improving their bodies from working out

a lot of them did get better coaching - but almost all of them were schooled on the playgrounds - that's where they developed their skills


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February 21st, 2022 at 4:28:19 PM permalink
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Individuals have improved their bodies, kids get much better coaching, they get better nutrition
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the great high school players I saw from around 1968 and 1969 didn't get great because of nutrition or from improving their bodies from working out

a lot of them did get better coaching - but almost all of them were schooled on the playgrounds - that's where they developed their skills


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That is the difference between today's players and those from thirty-forty years ago. The old players learned on playgrounds while today's kids have played on coached teams their whole lives. It's like comparing a street brawler to a trained fighter.
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February 21st, 2022 at 5:34:49 PM permalink
And you learn from those before you and improve on it in anything. And the three point line being introduced, and the statistical analysis of how important it is, has made players work so much to improve their shooting skill vs simply being tall being valued so much decades ago.

Lots of stiffs in previous decades because of the emphasis on height whereas now being tall is a plus, but if they can’t move their feet they can’t get on the court. The stiffs being replaced with skilled players raises the overall average level of player. Rim protection is the one place that has gotten worse because of it, you don’t see as many guys meeting guys in the air to challenge them anymore like Ewing, Olajuwon, Robinson. Sort of a golden era of great rim protecting bigs in the late 80’s, early 90’s with lessor overall players like Mark Eaton, Manute Bol being great rim protectors as well.
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February 22nd, 2022 at 3:09:09 AM permalink
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Anyone who’s not in their 20’s anymore feels old sometimes and their body performs like it. A hard truth. People can lift to maintain strength but that quick twitch explosion that generates force quickly goes and isn’t coming back. Obviously there’s levels to it but anyone over 40-50 is older than average and well past peak physically. They ganged up on him too not like it was man vs man.
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I have felt old since about the age of 15. Today at 55 I am guessing I feel like a typical 75 year old.
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You sound just like me. People get angry when I say I have just 20 years left.
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February 22nd, 2022 at 5:17:51 AM permalink
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Anyone who’s not in their 20’s anymore feels old sometimes and their body performs like it. A hard truth. People can lift to maintain strength but that quick twitch explosion that generates force quickly goes and isn’t coming back. Obviously there’s levels to it but anyone over 40-50 is older than average and well past peak physically. They ganged up on him too not like it was man vs man.
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I have felt old since about the age of 15. Today at 55 I am guessing I feel like a typical 75 year old.
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You sound just like me. People get angry when I say I have just 20 years left.
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There is a slight difference. I am not sure that I have 20 months left let alone years. My blood pressure has been stupid lately. When I went to the doctors office it was 259/149. That number scared me.
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February 22nd, 2022 at 9:26:29 AM permalink
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Anyone who’s not in their 20’s anymore feels old sometimes and their body performs like it. A hard truth. People can lift to maintain strength but that quick twitch explosion that generates force quickly goes and isn’t coming back. Obviously there’s levels to it but anyone over 40-50 is older than average and well past peak physically. They ganged up on him too not like it was man vs man.
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I have felt old since about the age of 15. Today at 55 I am guessing I feel like a typical 75 year old.
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You sound just like me. People get angry when I say I have just 20 years left.
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There is a slight difference. I am not sure that I have 20 months left let alone years. My blood pressure has been stupid lately. When I went to the doctors office it was 259/149. That number scared me.
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I assume with diastolic of 149 they sent you straight to ER? Not that a systolic over 250 isn’t enough to warrant the trip. You seem to have had hypertension for quite a while. I assume one of your doctors made sure you didn’t have a (totally treatable!) pheochromocytoma? I’ve been involved with some over the course of my career. Very complicated surgery/anesthesia but can be 100% curative.
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February 22nd, 2022 at 10:33:49 AM permalink
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Anyone who’s not in their 20’s anymore feels old sometimes and their body performs like it. A hard truth. People can lift to maintain strength but that quick twitch explosion that generates force quickly goes and isn’t coming back. Obviously there’s levels to it but anyone over 40-50 is older than average and well past peak physically. They ganged up on him too not like it was man vs man.
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I have felt old since about the age of 15. Today at 55 I am guessing I feel like a typical 75 year old.
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You sound just like me. People get angry when I say I have just 20 years left.
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There is a slight difference. I am not sure that I have 20 months left let alone years. My blood pressure has been stupid lately. When I went to the doctors office it was 259/149. That number scared me.
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I assume with diastolic of 149 they sent you straight to ER? Not that a systolic over 250 isn’t enough to warrant the trip. You seem to have had hypertension for quite a while. I assume one of your doctors made sure you didn’t have a (totally treatable!) pheochromocytoma? I’ve been involved with some over the course of my career. Very complicated surgery/anesthesia but can be 100% curative.
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Yes, straight to the ER. The doctor told me that most likely I will be having a stroke in the next 30 minutes or so. My BP has always been real high but my Systolic had never been over 230 that I am aware of.

I always assume that I have quite a bit of medical knowledge just from being in hospitals so much with my 25 surgeries. I am not familiar with pheochromocytoma so i will have to Google that now.
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February 23rd, 2022 at 1:18:43 AM permalink
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but I still think Wilt is the best athlete in NBA history.
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I would never dispute the greatness of Wilt
but just want to point out that he had only 3 great centers to matchup against - Bill Russell, Nate Thurmond and of course Jabbar
the rest of the post men in the league were basically some junk

he definitely would have had a lot of trouble with Shaq

straight up from a standup position in the lane he could matchup well with anybody

but power forwards like Lebron and Kobe flying into the lane - he couldn't have handled that at all

but again, even so - you have to judge players on their own competition - you can't compare them to other eras - not well anyway

so yes, he was the greatest ever - and probably by far


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February 23rd, 2022 at 1:56:08 AM permalink
He was bigger, stronger, faster than Shaq, and far more athletic. He'd have run circles around Shaq, especially in their later careers.
Did Shaq run track in college? Was he a high jumper? A shot-putter? A sprinter? Wilt was and was an elite performer.
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February 23rd, 2022 at 7:32:05 PM permalink
Sam Jones (left) famously grabbed a stool during an altercation with Wilt Chamberlain in a 1962 playoff game. PAUL J. CONNELL


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February 24th, 2022 at 1:33:22 AM permalink
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it must have been really humiliating for players back in the day trying to deal with him:

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. when Jabbar first showed his sky hook (he didn't do that in college) the word was out:

nobody will ever block his sky hook_______________𝙒𝙍𝙊𝙉𝙂



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February 24th, 2022 at 7:37:38 AM permalink
Question: Vegasinsider odds changed their format recently. They used to list the odds for Reno. But now do not.

Any idea's how to get the info? It was very nice not to have to drive to the 3 casinos to get the best price.
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February 24th, 2022 at 8:26:12 AM permalink
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Question: Vegasinsider odds changed their format recently. They used to list the odds for Reno. But now do not.

Any idea's how to get the info? It was very nice not to have to drive to the 3 casinos to get the best price.
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Back in the day I used to subscribe to Don Best service. I am pretty sure they had Reno numbers.
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February 24th, 2022 at 9:08:02 AM permalink
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Question: Vegasinsider odds changed their format recently. They used to list the odds for Reno. But now do not.

Any idea's how to get the info? It was very nice not to have to drive to the 3 casinos to get the best price.
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Get the mobile apps for the books you want and look at them there. Will be more accurate time wise than vegasinsider ever was.
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February 28th, 2022 at 6:50:18 AM permalink
Bernhard Langer just came in 2nd this week in the Senior Tour event. He won the week before. He is 64 years old. Competing with and whupping the 50 year olds. I wish I could figure out a way to compare this to other amazing sports feats. I think I will bet on him to make the cut at Augusta this year if I can find it on one of my sportsbooks offerings.
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February 28th, 2022 at 7:02:55 AM permalink
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Bernhard Langer just came in 2nd this week in the Senior Tour event. He won the week before. He is 64 years old. Competing with and whupping the 50 year olds. I wish I could figure out a way to compare this to other amazing sports feats. I think I will bet on him to make the cut at Augusta this year if I can find it on one of my sportsbooks offerings.
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He has been surprising me the last five years. Just when I think he is getting too old, he continues to impress. I wonder if he is on the TB12 diet regimen.

The senior tour was in Naples last week,
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February 28th, 2022 at 4:44:11 PM permalink
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Anyone who’s not in their 20’s anymore feels old sometimes and their body performs like it. A hard truth. People can lift to maintain strength but that quick twitch explosion that generates force quickly goes and isn’t coming back. Obviously there’s levels to it but anyone over 40-50 is older than average and well past peak physically. They ganged up on him too not like it was man vs man.
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I have felt old since about the age of 15. Today at 55 I am guessing I feel like a typical 75 year old.
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You sound just like me. People get angry when I say I have just 20 years left.
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There is a slight difference. I am not sure that I have 20 months left let alone years. My blood pressure has been stupid lately. When I went to the doctors office it was 259/149. That number scared me.
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OUCH! Do take care of yourself. I know I feel in bad shape but that is way bad. I am on BP pills for life but I was not that bad,
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March 1st, 2022 at 7:31:29 AM permalink
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Anyone who’s not in their 20’s anymore feels old sometimes and their body performs like it. A hard truth. People can lift to maintain strength but that quick twitch explosion that generates force quickly goes and isn’t coming back. Obviously there’s levels to it but anyone over 40-50 is older than average and well past peak physically. They ganged up on him too not like it was man vs man.
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I have felt old since about the age of 15. Today at 55 I am guessing I feel like a typical 75 year old.
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You sound just like me. People get angry when I say I have just 20 years left.
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There is a slight difference. I am not sure that I have 20 months left let alone years. My blood pressure has been stupid lately. When I went to the doctors office it was 259/149. That number scared me.
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OUCH! Do take care of yourself. I know I feel in bad shape but that is way bad. I am on BP pills for life but I was not that bad,
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Thankfully they have me on some different BP meds now and my BP is rather normal. It has been 20 years since my BP has been lower than 180/100 regularly.
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March 1st, 2022 at 9:13:29 AM permalink
The WNBA just fined the NY Liberty half a million dollars and threatened to suspend their franchise.
Their crime- they disrupted the competitive balance of the league by occasionally using a charter plane while their opponents fly commercial. There were a number of times when the Liberty played in one city and there were no direct flights to the next scheduled game, so rather than fly somewhere else to change to a flight to the game, they chartered planes to go direct. As their opponents were too cheap to do the same thing, the league feels the Liberty took unfair advantage of the fact their owners are willing to spend money to take care of their players.
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March 1st, 2022 at 9:59:49 AM permalink
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The WNBA just fined the NY Liberty half a million dollars and threatened to suspend their franchise.
Their crime- they disrupted the competitive balance of the league by occasionally using a charter plane while their opponents fly commercial. There were a number of times when the Liberty played in one city and there were no direct flights to the next scheduled game, so rather than fly somewhere else to change to a flight to the game, they chartered planes to go direct. As their opponents were too cheap to do the same thing, the league feels the Liberty took unfair advantage of the fact their owners are willing to spend money to take care of their players.
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That sounds ridiculous to me.
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The WNBA just fined the NY Liberty half a million dollars and threatened to suspend their franchise.
Their crime- they disrupted the competitive balance of the league by occasionally using a charter plane while their opponents fly commercial. There were a number of times when the Liberty played in one city and there were no direct flights to the next scheduled game, so rather than fly somewhere else to change to a flight to the game, they chartered planes to go direct. As their opponents were too cheap to do the same thing, the league feels the Liberty took unfair advantage of the fact their owners are willing to spend money to take care of their players.
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That sounds ridiculous to me.
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The whole WNBA is kind of ridiculous.
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March 1st, 2022 at 2:17:41 PM permalink
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The whole WNBA is kind of ridiculous.



I can make a pretty good guess as to why you would make a comment like that

they're great athletes and great basketball players

what is ridiculous or worse than ridiculous is your comment


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The whole WNBA is kind of ridiculous.



I can make a pretty good guess as to why you would make a comment like that

they're great athletes and great basketball players

what is ridiculous or worse than ridiculous is your comment


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The whole WNBA is kind of ridiculous.



I can make a pretty good guess as to why you would make a comment like that

they're great athletes and great basketball players

what is ridiculous or worse than ridiculous is your comment


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As a business it is probably ridiculous. I know it is heavily subsidized but I have no idea about their actual financials.
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March 1st, 2022 at 3:20:44 PM permalink
The WNBA labor agreement calls for the players to fly coach, although they can upgrade on their own or use miles.
During last year's playoffs, the Chicago team headed to the airport after winning a play-in game to set up a game in Connecticut the next night. They ended up getting split up over different airlines and flights, with some players getting out at 3:30 AM.

I've never seen a WNBA game. It just doesn't interest me.
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March 2nd, 2022 at 8:55:15 PM permalink
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March 3rd, 2022 at 3:57:44 AM permalink
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The whole WNBA is kind of ridiculous.



I can make a pretty good guess as to why you would make a comment like that

they're great athletes and great basketball players

what is ridiculous or worse than ridiculous is your comment


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The fan base is very thin. It does not make money still after how many years?

And reports that it is a very hostile work environment for straight women.
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March 4th, 2022 at 1:25:39 PM permalink
I was thinking about Pistol Pete for some reason today so I went back and looked at some YouTube footage of him. One video said that Dale Brown went back and charted all of the Pistol's shots from the college season where he averaged 44 ppg. If there was a 3-point line Brown estimated that Pistol would have averaged 57 ppg for that season. I got to see Pistol Pete play in a few NBA games back in the day, back in the day.
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March 4th, 2022 at 1:58:49 PM permalink
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I was thinking about Pistol Pete for some reason today so I went back and looked at some YouTube footage of him. One video said that Dale Brown went back and charted all of the Pistol's shots from the college season where he averaged 44 ppg. If there was a 3-point line Brown estimated that Pistol would have averaged 57 ppg for that season. I got to see Pistol Pete play in a few NBA games back in the day, back in the day.
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1970 was an incredible year for basketball. Pistol Pete was drafted #3 in the draft, and the first four players drafted made the Hall of Fame, as did Nate Archibald and Dan Issel.
I only have vague memories of Pete in college as I was in Japan much of the time, but I do remember every kid in Queens wanted to be Pistol Pete. I never understood why he didn't go to the ABA where they had the 3 point shoot.
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March 5th, 2022 at 5:20:45 AM permalink
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as did Nate Archibald




Nate Archibald was by far the quickest player I ever saw - he faked guys out so bad - they would end up being completely behind him

he is one of very few players from back in the day that I believe could match up well with today's players

I haven't seen anybody out there today who I can say is as quick as he was - although I admit I haven't watched a tremendous amount of today's NBA

nonetheless, I don't believe anybody out there today could handle him - not from what I've seen

he was a truly great little man


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March 5th, 2022 at 6:27:49 AM permalink
In typical Nets fashion, they traded for Nate the season they entered the NBA.
As the defending ABA champions, with both Dr. J and Nate Archibald, they had to have been considered one of the favorites to win it all in the new league. a few days before the start of the season, they shock the world by selling Dr, J to the 76ers. Let me repeat this- the Nets sold the most popular player on the planet. They didn't trade him and get back any talent. They sold him and got no one in return. Then Archibald blows out his knee and a ridiculously under-staffed Nets team goes on to lose sixty games.
Another former ABA team, the Denver Nuggets ends up dominating the league, easily winning their division before flaring out in the playoffs..
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March 5th, 2022 at 1:22:45 PM permalink
Brittney Griner, one of the best women’s basketball players in the world, best known for being probably the only woman who semi frequently dunks (she’s 6’8), was detained in a Moscow airport last month after marijuana vape cartridges were found in her luggage.

She plays for a Russian team in the WNBA offseason. Her lawyers didn’t specify if she’s still currently in jail but it sounds like it. Doesn’t sound like a great spot to be in given the current political diplomatic situation.
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March 13th, 2022 at 1:41:12 AM permalink
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this wins my vote and a lot of other people's votes for he greatest round of boxing of all time

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March 13th, 2022 at 4:01:48 PM permalink
Soopoo, I see there is NCAA tournament basketball in Buffalo this week. Will you go to any of the games?

Don't be surprised if the Big Ten tournament champion Iowa Hawkeyes loses their first round game to the Richmond Spiders.
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March 14th, 2022 at 9:09:31 AM permalink
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Soopoo, I see there is NCAA tournament basketball in Buffalo this week. Will you go to any of the games?

Don't be surprised if the Big Ten tournament champion Iowa Hawkeyes loses their first round game to the Richmond Spiders.
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I’ve gone before when it’s been in Buffalo. I have to say these neutral site games leave a lot to be desired. The crowds are nothing like a regular home game when the entire crowd is made up of fans of one or the two competing teams. For these first round games, there will be around 2000 crazies for one team, 2000 for the other, and 14000 that are there because they like college basketball. Less ‘life’ in the crowd than you’d expect.
For the past 25 or so years we have a group that gets together at a bar at noon on Thursday, we take around 6 tables, and have 4 TVs all on different games. This goes on until midnight on both Thursday and Friday. I would go after work both days. The other guys would bring their boys from a pretty early age. My wife and I never considered taking our boys out of school for this! My younger son joined us a few times after school.

Fast forward to this year…. 3 of the regular guys have FOUR of their sons as college BBall coaches! One is top assistant for the San Francisco Dons, so this friend will be trekking to Indianapolis for that game. Two of the other kids are coaches at Stanford. They missed the tourney this year. The fourth is a head coach at at D 3 school. These kids were 4 of the regulars who would be at the bar.
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March 14th, 2022 at 9:12:20 AM permalink
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Fast forward to this year…. 3 of the regular guys have FOUR of their sons as college BBall coaches! One is top assistant for the San Francisco Dons, so this friend will be trekking to Indianapolis for that game. Two of the other kids are coaches at Stanford. They missed the tourney this year. The fourth is a head coach at at D 3 school. These kids were 4 of the regulars who would be at the bar.
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Didn't the Dons just fire their coach yesterday? I used to take that Thursday off work and meet a group at the bar and watch all day. I miss doing that.
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Rucker Park playground legend Earl "The Goat" Manigault was probably one of the greatest players ever from NYC but did not play college or pro ball due to personal problems

when Jabbar retired he was asked who was the greatest player he ever played with or against - his answer - Manigault


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March 15th, 2022 at 5:57:55 AM permalink
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pretty strange stuff - I was watching TV and up popped a commercial for the gambling site underdogfantasy.com

they used a photo of Alvin Kamara - just his face - not playing in a game - with his name underneath the photo as part of their advertisement

I don't think NFL players are allowed to accept money from gambling enterprises

which means that the site used his image without paying him - or Kamara accepted money from them

what's even stranger is that Kamara was arrested for assault on Feb. 14 and will have a hearing on April 25

it's hard to believe that any company, even a gambling company, would use an image of a player for advertising when that player has recently been arrested for assault

to me, it's all very strange indeed



Edit - I tried to find the image of Kamara on their website but had no luck - but it was definitely there in the TV ad


2nd edit - I did some more searching online and found this from ispot.tv - a site that I believe exists to show reruns of tv commercials (I think) - I linked the site where I found this ad and also took this screenshot from their ad


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https://www.ispot.tv/ad/OURG/underdog-fantasy-easiest-way-to-play



3rd Edit - from the NFL's 2018 Gambling Policy Document

rule #8 -

"NFL personnel are prohibited from using or allowing others to use one's name or image to promote, advertise or publicize gambling related enterprises"


https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2018%20Policies/2018%20Gambling%20Policy%20-%20FINAL.pdf


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March 18th, 2022 at 2:21:59 AM permalink
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the Georgetown Hoyas lost their last 21 games under Coach Patrick Ewing

and the latest is the AD says they're sticking with Ewing

they love Ewing at Georgetown

without him and Thompson Georgetown would have remained hoops nobodies


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March 18th, 2022 at 5:51:58 AM permalink
If they’ve lost 21 straight (in what has deteriorated to an average conference) would seem that it’s come full circle back to nobodies under Ewing then. Looks like this was his first truly awful season but hasn’t really had a good one in five years either.

One year left on his contract….tough spot, they either extend him coming off this or guarantee an awful recruiting class next year since he’d be recruiting kids that would be coming in after his current contract is up.
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March 18th, 2022 at 5:58:41 AM permalink
Was he playing mostly freshman during his losing streak? Has he put together a team that will compete in two years?
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March 18th, 2022 at 6:36:34 AM permalink
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a book came in 2015 that I just became aware of to honor one of basketball's and one of DC's own greats who has been somewhat overlooked for various reasons

the teams he was on never won a championship, and his fabulous scoring figures were eclipsed by Wilt

he had the record for most points ever in an NBA game - 71 - until Wilt broke the record

Baylor averaged 38 per game in one year

he still holds the record for most points in an NBA finals game - 61 - a record that still stands after 60 years have passed

that game was against the Celtics who had a fabulous defense that included Bill Russell - he absolutely posterized any defender in his way

I really don't have words that could describe how great he was in his prime - there are some YT vids






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March 18th, 2022 at 7:41:58 AM permalink
Baylor was a shadow of himself when I started watching basketball, but my coaches all would use him as examples we should work towards. He evidently had an incredible elbow that he wasn't afraid to use.
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March 19th, 2022 at 1:42:04 AM permalink
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wow!!!!______________the center for Purdue, Zach Edey is 7'4" - the tallest player ever in the Big 10 - I hadn't been following CBB closely and didn't know this

I think Manute Bol was the tallest hoopster ever at 7'6"


he looks like a giant in this pic


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