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Quote: CommishJansen backing up home plate instead of watching the play could have saved the loss for the Dodgers.
Jansen was out of position but there is no way he could have retrieved the ball and gotten it to the catcher in time.
One of the best games I've seen in my 52 years of watching baseball. Two teams that I care nothing about and it ended up a game for the ages.
their record - 0-0
they haven't played a game.............................................................................(-:\
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fbs/associated-press
As the NFC East dumpster fire turns, it looks like we will have three teams leading the division with two wins after this week with the Eagles pulling ahead at 2-4-1, they're probably the only one with any shot to get to .500 and of course they can't end up at .500 unless they were to get another tie.
When Dak went down, I assumed the Cowboys with all their offensive talent and weapons, would still get to 8 wins and were still the division favorites. I had no idea how far Andy Dalton has fallen.
Dallas still has a lot of offensive weapons. Is there anybody out there that can serve as a serviceable backup? Probably not, if there was they would be on a roster somewhere. Colin & Brett sitting by the phones? lol.
Actually Colin Kaepernick might not be a bad fit if he were to have anything left after 3 or 4 years. Probably doesn't. But Jerry so against the player protests is about the last owner that would give him a shot.
Quote: billryanEli's coming?
Boy, I forgot about Eli already. Out of sight, out of mind. Lol
Quote: kewljIs there anybody out there that can serve as a serviceable backup? Probably not, if there was they would be on a roster somewhere. Colin & Brett sitting by the phones? lol.
Actually Colin Kaepernick might not be a bad fit if he were to have anything left after 3 or 4 years. Probably doesn't. But Jerry so against the player protests is about the last owner that would give him a shot.
Andrew Luck
Quote: lilredroosterthe Associated Press has the Oregon Ducks ranked # 14
their record - 0-0
they haven't played a game.............................................................................(-:\
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fbs/associated-press
Yeah but they play in Autzen Stadium
That's got to count for something
That place is truly magical
Best Grateful Dead concert I ever saw was at Autzen Stadium and I saw my boys over a hundred times.
But I pushed. It was in a 3 spot parlay.
Now, it was reduced to a 2 spot so I still won +415.
Is that normal on a parlay? Push spots just reduce it to one game less? I thought 1 void was all void. Not that I am complaining. but first it happened.
Fellow degenerates?
Quote: AZDuffmanStupid Steelers and Titans. Both missed a score that cost me the over.
But I pushed. It was in a 3 spot parlay.
Now, it was reduced to a 2 spot so I still won +415.
Is that normal on a parlay? Push spots just reduce it to one game less? I thought 1 void was all void. Not that I am complaining. but first it happened.
Fellow degenerates?
Yes, that is the usual way it is handled.
Quote: AZDuffmanStupid Steelers and Titans. Both missed a score that cost me the over.
But I pushed. It was in a 3 spot parlay.
Now, it was reduced to a 2 spot so I still won +415.
Is that normal on a parlay? Push spots just reduce it to one game less? I thought 1 void was all void. Not that I am complaining. but first it happened.
Fellow degenerates?
Yes. Bad bookie if a push loses a parlay. Pushes tend to lose teasers (though that can depend also).
Quote: SOOPOOthe kids that get into Michigan have 1200+ SATs.... while only 4 of the 100 football players do.... (example.... )
I can list dozens of examples why their football players are just plain treated differently than the actual students.
ALL schpp;s SAY they focus on academics, pay the coach the money.
Most universi5i3s make money from government contracts.
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Quote: unJonYes. Bad bookie if a push loses a parlay. Pushes tend to lose teasers (though that can depend also).
I am surprised I did not know but it never happened before.
I still do not get how teasers work even after all these years.
Quote: AZDuffmanI still do not get how teasers work even after all these years.
Teasers. That's an easy one. Your date leads you to believe you are headed towards the promise land, when they have zero intention of going there. This often leaves you very sad or um "blue". :/
The circumstances were slightly different as Atlanta was losing by 2 points with a first and goal from the 10 with 1:08 left and their opponent having no time outs left. The optimal strategy would be to run the ball twice, trying to advance towards the goal line but not score (fall down before scoring). Then YOU stop the clock on 3rd down with 10 or 12 seconds left and run a play trying to score a touchdown. If that fails, you then kick a very short field goal (shorter than extra point) to win the game. Either scoring a touchdown on 3rd down or the field goal would have left Detroit one play to attempt a comeback.
Instead just like the Penn State game, Gurley scored with no resistance from defense, defense even celebrating his score because it game them an extra possession and chance to win, which they did. And just like the Penn State game, it appears at the last second Gurley tried to not score, but come on, how can these players and coaches not understand the situation and optimal thing to do.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/atlanta-falcons-blow-sure-win-204832285.html
Quote: kewlj
Instead just like the Penn State game, Gurley scored with no resistance from defense, defense even celebrating his score because it game them an extra possession and chance to win, which they did. And just like the Penn State game, it appears at the last second Gurley tried to not score, but come on, how can these players and coaches not understand the situation and optimal thing to do.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/atlanta-falcons-blow-sure-win-204832285.html
I think in both cases the coach knew and even told the players not to score yet their natural instinct kicked in.
During the second Giants Superbowl win, Armand Bradshaw tried to stop near the goal line but his forward momentum drove him in.
Quote: billryanWhat happens if an NFL runner chooses to stop on the five yard line and the defense decides to stay away from him? He is not down by contact so does the clock simply keep going until the game ends?
During the second Giants Superbowl win, Armand Bradshaw tried to stop near the goal line but his forward momentum drove him in.
The clock should keep moving until the play is over. But why would he stop?
Quote: billryanWhat happens if an NFL runner chooses to stop on the five yard line and the defense decides to stay away from him? He is not down by contact so does the clock simply keep going until the game ends?
During the second Giants Superbowl win, Armand Bradshaw tried to stop near the goal line but his forward momentum drove him in.
Isn't there now a rule where the player is giving himself up?
Yes. The announcers for one of the games on Sunday were talking about it. I believe it includes taking a knee, sliding, or even diving. So, if a runner dives for the endzone from the 5 and lands on the 1, he is down, even if he bounces into the endzone without being touched by the defense.Quote: kewljIsn't there now a rule where the player is giving himself up?
Quote: kewljIsn't there now a rule where the player is giving himself up?
If a player takes a knee and tells the ref that he is down the ref will blow the whistle.
And it looks like the Jets are poised to win the Trevor Lawrence lottery.
I was watching the World Series and luck with the timing, it ended just in time to switch to the SEA-ARI game as it went into overtime.Quote: gordonm888Seattle-Arizona game: one of the most entertaining NFL games I've seen in a long time....
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bywrMfiALmU )
Quote: gordonm888Seattle-Arizona game: one of the most entertaining NFL games I've seen in a long time.
part of the reason it was so entertaining was the mobility of those 2 QBs
the stay in the pocket QB may be a thing of the past - looks like it's slowly fading away
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Quote: lilredroosterpart of the reason it was so entertaining was the mobility of those 2 QBs
the stay in the pocket QB may be a thing of the past - looks like it's slowly fading away
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I agree, I am happy to see some diversity in NFL. I have always enjoyed college football so much more because of the variety of offenses you see.
Quote: DRichI think in both cases the coach knew and even told the players not to score yet their natural instinct kicked in.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1321536814004449281
Quote: DRichI think in both cases the coach knew and even told the players not to score yet their natural instinct kicked in.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1321536814004449281
I have seen DOZENS of cornerbacks and safeties make unnecessary interceptions on 4th down when it would clearly have been better for their team to just not catch the ball. I’m not talking about situations where catching the ball prevents his opponent from catching the ball. Way overthrown balls. Balls on the sideline, etc...
Bottom line.... players (mostly) play for themselves. And they are not too smart in general.
Yikes! Should the Eagles be favored over anybody by 9.5 pts? This is a team that lost to Washington, tied Cincinnati and barely beat the Giants by 1.
If I wasn't an Eagles fan, which prohibits me from betting against them, I would have to bet maybe both those lines.
Quote: SOOPOO
Bottom line.... players (mostly) play for themselves. And they are not too smart in general.
I missed the issue why a RB would not try to score here?
But as to intercepting when you should not, it is easy to say that when you are watching TV. When you are playing it is going to be different. All but one play it makes sense to intercept. You can be sure in the huddle they are saying "bat it down if it comes near you!" but what if they are in a hurry up with no huddle? What if it is not obvious no other player can catch it? These things happen.
This does not excuse some obvious things though. Who was the QB a few years back that did not realize a game can end in a tie?
If Gurley falls down at the 1, the Falcons could have run the clock down and won the game on a last-second field goal from point-blank range. The Lions would not have been able to stop the clock nor get possession of the ball. As it was, the Lions got the ball back with enough time to drive down the field and score a TD to win.Quote: AZDuffmanI missed the issue why a RB would not try to score here?
BTW, it appears as though he realizes his mistake at about the 1 yard line. The thing is, if he just switches the ball to his upfield hand as he is going down, he may have been able to avoid scoring. Kind of the opposite of reaching the ball over the goal line.
I agree with this. Plus, there is a possibility that the intercepting player could return the ball beyond the line of scrimmage. It's like running the ball out of the endzone on a kickoff. Why would anyone do that if taking a knee would put the ball on the 25? Because he might return it further or even score. There is also the case where the other team is inside the 20, and intercepting the ball in the endzone for a touchback will give your team better field position than if the ball went over on downs.Quote:But as to intercepting when you should not, it is easy to say that when you are watching TV. When you are playing it is going to be different. All but one play it makes sense to intercept. You can be sure in the huddle they are saying "bat it down if it comes near you!" but what if they are in a hurry up with no huddle? What if it is not obvious no other player can catch it? These things happen.
But, yeah, I still yell at my TV when a player intercepts a ball on 4th down, losing 30 yards of field position because he didn't just bat it down.
Donovan McNabbQuote:This does not excuse some obvious things though. Who was the QB a few years back that did not realize a game can end in a tie?
Quote: kewljEagles / Cowboys line: Dallas +9.5, +350.
Yikes! Should the Eagles be favored over anybody by 9.5 pts? This is a team that lost to Washington, tied Cincinnati and barely beat the Giants by 1.
If I wasn't an Eagles fan, which prohibits me from betting against them, I would have to bet maybe both those lines.
Dallas is on a third string QB that has never started an NFL game. Expect a lot of running by Elliot.
I never understood people that won't bet against their team. You know your team better than most, if you think they are at a disadvantage why not bet it?
Quote: Joeman
But, yeah, I still yell at my TV when a player intercepts a ball on 4th down, losing 30 yards of field position because he didn't just bat it down.
Donovan McNabb
Thanks, was thinking Vick but it seemed wrong.
My family and friends played touch football on Christmas Eve in the late 1990s. One dude did the intercept when he should have batted down. He did some other silly things that I asked if he learned the rules to football in the car on the way over. lol
Quote: DRichDallas is on a third string QB that has never started an NFL game. Expect a lot of running by Elliot.
I never understood people that won't bet against their team. You know your team better than most, if you think they are at a disadvantage why not bet it?
Speaking only for myself, I don't bet against the Yankees, Giants or Nets because I'd rather enjoy the game and hope for a win than make a few bucks and see my team lose. There are more than enough other ways to make money. I am a casual bettor. Perhaps if I were a pro, my attitude would be different but I'm not, so it isn't.
Quote: billryanSpeaking only for myself, I don't bet against the Yankees, Giants or Nets because I'd rather enjoy the game and hope for a win than make a few bucks and see my team lose. There are more than enough other ways to make money. I am a casual bettor. Perhaps if I were a pro, my attitude would be different but I'm not, so it isn't.
I understand the dilemma I just don't understand how rooting for your team will influence the outcome. Still root for your team even if you think betting the other side makes sense. I do it quite often.
Quote: DRichI understand the dilemma I just don't understand how rooting for your team will influence the outcome. Still root for your team even if you think betting the other side makes sense. I do it quite often.
I have done it on occasion. And this is actually the perfect situation. I could bet cowboys +9.5 and still root for The Eagles to win.
But each time I have done something like this it really diminishes my enjoyment as a fan rooting for my team, not to mention never works out. Lol.
So as a huge Eagles and Villanova basketball fan, I just now never bet against my teams.
the Jets are pretty bad
the Chiefs are real good
but that's a lot of points
the Jets only lost by 8 to the Bills last week
𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐡𝐚𝐥𝐟 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐠𝐮𝐥𝐚𝐫 𝐬𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐥𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐲 𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐝 the new rankings were just released today
the Oregon Ducks have moved up 2 notches since last week
they're now ranked #𝟏𝟐
their record.................................𝟎-𝟎
𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙮 𝙝𝙖𝙫𝙚𝙣'𝙩 𝙥𝙡𝙖𝙮𝙚𝙙 𝙖 𝙨𝙞𝙣𝙜𝙡𝙚 𝙜𝙖𝙢𝙚.....................................(-:\
https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll
Thoughts?
Quote: AZDuffmanSo after I stop caring about the Steelers they seem to be making a run of runs. Does anyone think they will be an underdog the rest of the way? I sort of see them being a favorite to bet against as they do tend to let teams catch up. They are also a good over bet for the same reason. At least it seems.
Thoughts?
I think it is possible they may be an underdog when they play in Buffalo. The rest of their schedule looks pretty good with only tough games at home against the Colts and Ravens.
