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December 30th, 2024 at 7:16:42 AM permalink
You watched the second video you posted and didn't see Nix throw the ball from his own forty deep into the endzone? I don't know what to say. You seem to think he threw it 51 yards.
I once saw Eli Manning throw a one-yard pass to Victor Cruz, and Cruz broke multiple tackles and scored. Manning was credited with a 98 yard pass.
Bo Nix threw the ball 65 yards in the air for the one touchdown and about forty for the second one, but you think they were both the same play.

Both your links are from the same game. Nix is a rookie and has only played the Bengals once.
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December 30th, 2024 at 7:19:49 AM permalink
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That was his last TD of the game; the 65-yarder was earlier.
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there is no record I can find about the TD you are referring to -

this link from the Broncos claims the pass to Mims was 67 yards - but I think that's not correct - as I said he threw if from about his own 38 and it was caught deep in the end zone

https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2024/12/29/nfl-news-bo-nix-td-to-marvin-mims-longest-pass-of-2024-season/

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You posted videos of two different plays. The 65plus yard hit the receiver in full stride. The first video was a hail mary later in the game. Take the time to watch a link before you post it
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nonsense
I posted 2 links - 2 different games
watched both several times
no 65 yard pass by Bo Nix
the 2nd link was Anthony Richardson
IF YOU SAY THERE IS PUT UP YOUR LINK
I'm done here - you want to post your story but you won't put up the link - none found on YT or Tik Tok as you claim

have a great day

edit - did find a YT vid claiming the td to Mims was 67 yards completion by "air distance" and also says it was a 51 yard TD - don't know what they mean by "air distance"

see link -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Sh8gXDJUo

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DONT KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN BY AIR DISTANCE?

Isn’t that what you and Billy have been arguing about all along?!?!?!!!

Happy New Year Lilred. Maybe time for memory care…
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the link defines "air distance" as "the distance a football travels in the air from the point of release to the point of reception"

51 yards - the throw to Mims


https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+air+distance+in+an+nfl+pass&oq=what+is+air+distance+in+an+nfl+pass&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160l4j33i671l2.10120j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


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December 30th, 2024 at 7:26:49 AM permalink
Two videos were posted. The first has nothing to do with the play I mentioned. Then, a second video was posted that shows the play in question, only the rooster says it was from a different game. How many times has a rookie NFL QB played a non-divisional foe?
Bo Nix threw a TD pass that traveled 65 or more yards in the air. Why anyone would dispute that is crazy.
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December 30th, 2024 at 7:33:16 AM permalink
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Two videos were posted. The first has nothing to do with the play I mentioned. Then, a second video was posted that shows the play in question, only the rooster says it was from a different game.


so ridiculous
AS I CLEARLY STATED IN MY OP
the 2nd video is Anthony Richardson; Colts qb from 3 months ago - here it is again - thrown to Alec Pierce
and for good measure a link about the the throw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ_uIl2ILgA

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2024/9/10/24240305/anthony-richardsons-otherworldy-throw-was-the-nfls-longest-non-hail-mary-pass-since-at-least-2016

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December 30th, 2024 at 7:35:52 AM permalink
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Two videos were posted. The first has nothing to do with the play I mentioned. Then, a second video was posted that shows the play in question, only the rooster says it was from a different game. How many times has a rookie NFL QB played a non-divisional foe?
Bo Nix threw a TD pass that traveled 65 or more yards in the air. Why anyone would dispute that is crazy.
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It was easy to find it by googling. The 51 yard TD pass travelled 67 yards in the air according to multiple sources. Is LilRed actually a ‘67 yd TD denier’ despite no evidence to deny it?

This I’m just guessing, but I’d bet at least 1/2 of the NFL QBs can throw a ball that far.
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December 30th, 2024 at 7:41:49 AM permalink
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It was easy to find it by googling. The 51 yard TD pass travelled 67 yards in the air according to multiple sources. Is LilRed actually a ‘67 yd TD denier’ despite no evidence to deny it?


maybe I'm missing something
please explain
how can a 51 yard TD pass thrown from his own 38 and caught about 13 yards deep in the end zone account for "67 yards in the air"
I don't get it at all
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December 30th, 2024 at 7:43:36 AM permalink
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Quote: billryan

Two videos were posted. The first has nothing to do with the play I mentioned. Then, a second video was posted that shows the play in question, only the rooster says it was from a different game.


so ridiculous
AS I CLEARLY STATED IN MY OP
the 2nd video is Anthony Richardson; Colts qb from 3 months ago - here it is again - thrown to Alec Pierce
and for good measure a link about the the throw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ_uIl2ILgA

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2024/9/10/24240305/anthony-richardsons-otherworldy-throw-was-the-nfls-longest-non-hail-mary-pass-since-at-least-2016

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You posted a video in your first post showing a different Nix-Mims TD, a much shorter one that tied the game in the last minute.
In another post, you actually managed to get the right play but then said it was from another game.

I stated that Nix threw the ball 65 yards in the air, which he did, but you want to say it was only 51yards because that's the official distance of the TD. Fine, then Eli Mannings one-yard pass to Victor Cruz that turned into a 98-yard TD should be the standard for all passes.
Richardson's pass is caught short of the goal line, while Mims's first catch is caught several yards deep in the end zone.
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December 30th, 2024 at 7:43:43 AM permalink
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Bo Nix threw a ball sixty-five yards in the air yesterday. It was the longest pass I've seen in a very long time.
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I believe you're talking about this play (first YT vid) which was only 51 yards, not 65 - it was an amazing throw - he threw it from his own 38 while moving backwards

if you think I'm wrong and he did throw one for 65 yards please post a link - I couldn't find one at google or YT

the 2nd YT vid is Anthony Richardson who did actually throw it 65 yards for a TD - the commentator calls it the 3rd longest completion in the next gen stats era


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBOkrytG2Zo

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My last post here. Billy clearly said he threw it ‘65 yards IN THE AIR’. And LILRED started the nonsensical argument.
CASE CLOSED.
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December 30th, 2024 at 7:46:34 AM permalink
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It was easy to find it by googling. The 51 yard TD pass travelled 67 yards in the air according to multiple sources. Is LilRed actually a ‘67 yd TD denier’ despite no evidence to deny it?


maybe I'm missing something
please explain
how can a 51 yard TD pass thrown from his own 38 and caught about 13 yards deep in the end zone account for "67 yards in the air"
I don't get it at all
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From his own forty to the endzone is sixty yards. Do you at least agree with that?
If a ball is thrown from his forty and is caught five yards deep in the endzone, do you agree that is 65 yards?
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December 30th, 2024 at 7:49:51 AM permalink
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Richardson's pass is caught short of the goal line, while Mims's first catch is caught several yards deep in the end zone.[


Richardson threw the ball from his OWN 32 yard line - about 65 yards

Nix threw the ball from his OPPONENT'S 38 to about 13 yards deep in the end zone - 51 yards

Richardson's throw was obviously much, much longer

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December 30th, 2024 at 7:51:18 AM permalink
Throwing the ball sixty-five feet in the air is a very rare play in the NFL. Scoring on a sixty-five-yard passing play is much easier. Jerry Rice routinely turned seven-yard passes into long TDs, for which Montana would get credit.
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December 30th, 2024 at 7:51:25 AM permalink
Josh Allen (likely) secured the MVP yesterday. He didn’t play in the 4th quarter, so his stats were underwhelming. Lamar has mostly better stats than Allen on the major categories. I am biased, but I think the overall talent surrounding Allen this year has been lower than what Jackson has. So I’d factor that in and give Allen my vote. You can make reasonable cases for Barkley, Burrow, and of course Mahomes as well. I think Jackson plays next week, while Allen won’t (maybe 1 play to keep a steak alive). What if Jackson runs for 100, throws 4 TDs and 350 yards?
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December 30th, 2024 at 7:58:40 AM permalink
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Richardson's pass is caught short of the goal line, while Mims's first catch is caught several yards deep in the end zone.[


Richardson threw the ball from his OPPONENT'S 32 yard line - about 65 yards

Nix threw the ball from his OWN 38 to about 13 yards deep in the end zone - 51 yards

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The line of scrimmage was the Bengals 49 yard line. The video shows the center lining up on the wrong end of the Bengals emblem at mid-field. You keep going back to the wrong play. The first Mims TD, not the second one that you posted in your first post.
The Broncos line up at their own 49, Nix drops back and rolls out. Part of his body appears behind the forty when he throws the ball.

It's pretty obvious you posted the wrong Mims TD in your first post.
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December 30th, 2024 at 8:01:36 AM permalink
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Josh Allen (likely) secured the MVP yesterday. He didn’t play in the 4th quarter, so his stats were underwhelming. Lamar has mostly better stats than Allen on the major categories. I am biased, but I think the overall talent surrounding Allen this year has been lower than what Jackson has. So I’d factor that in and give Allen my vote. You can make reasonable cases for Barkley, Burrow, and of course Mahomes as well. I think Jackson plays next week, while Allen won’t (maybe 1 play to keep a steak alive). What if Jackson runs for 100, throws 4 TDs and 350 yards?
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I'm curious about what the Igloos do with Barkley next week. He needs about a hundred yards to break the rushing record but the game is meaningless. I'd worry about him getting hurt and sit him out, although I suspect a number of Giants hope he plays.
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December 30th, 2024 at 8:05:51 AM permalink
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It's pretty obvious you posted the wrong Mims TD in your first post


if I posted the wrong TD as you say why can I find no record of the TD you are referring to why don't you post a link to it__________?

as I stated, I've searched and can find nothing about it

if you post the link showing his 65 yard pass I will admit I was wrong and apologize for all of this

but I want to see what you are referring to

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December 30th, 2024 at 8:09:27 AM permalink
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It's pretty obvious you posted the wrong Mims TD in your first post


if I posted the wrong TD as you say why can I find no record of the TD you are referring to why don't you post a link to it__________?

as I stated, I've searched and can find nothing about it

if you post the link showing his 65 yard pass I will admit I was wrong and apologize for all of this

but I want to see what you are referring to

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You've already posted it.
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December 30th, 2024 at 8:12:47 AM permalink
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That was his last TD of the game; the 65-yarder was earlier.
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https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2024/12/29/nfl-news-bo-nix-td-to-marvin-mims-longest-pass-of-2024-season/

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As you can clearly see, this is a different TD than you originally posted. The 65-yarder was caught in stride near the middle of the field, while the Hail Mary you originally posted goes into the corner.
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December 30th, 2024 at 8:17:57 AM permalink
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As you can clearly see, this is a different TD than you originally posted. The 65-yarder was caught in stride near the middle of the field, while the Hail Mary you originally posted goes into the corner.


okay, finally I got it
as I indicated I would - I admit that I was wrong and I apologize for all of this - my bad

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December 30th, 2024 at 8:29:41 AM permalink
Kool and Da Gang.

BTW- endzones are only ten yards deep.
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December 30th, 2024 at 8:44:07 AM permalink
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here's Matthew Stafford throwing the ball ONE HUNDRED YARDS in practice

edit - he was using an "Amazon Prime" football - a Reddit post indicates that these new balls were made for Amazon Prime Thursday night games - see link


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ds9WG9LWGZ8


.https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngelesRams/comments/x1v3az/matthew_stafford_casually_throwing_100_yard_bombs/?rdt=63831

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December 30th, 2024 at 9:26:01 AM permalink
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BTW- endzones are only ten yards deep.



I guess you don't watch much Canadian football.
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December 30th, 2024 at 9:36:29 AM permalink
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BTW- endzones are only ten yards deep.



I guess you don't watch much Canadian football.
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I'm not sure I've ever seen a CFL game, just some highlights.
I had a friend who played ball at BC. He was offered a contract for a CFL team, drove up there and was informed he'd been cut. His signing bonus didn't cover his gas cost.
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December 30th, 2024 at 9:40:36 AM permalink
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BTW- endzones are only ten yards deep.



I guess you don't watch much Canadian football.
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I'm not sure I've ever seen a CFL game, just some highlights.
I had a friend who played ball at BC. He was offered a contract for a CFL team, drove up there and was informed he'd been cut. His signing bonus didn't cover his gas cost.
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You were missing out. Warren Moon, Doug Flutie, Joe Theisman, Jeff Garcia just to name the QB's that made it big in the NFL.
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December 30th, 2024 at 9:47:37 AM permalink
Has a former CFL QB made it to the Super Bowl yet? I'm thinking maybe Joe Kapp, but I can't think of another.
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Has a former CFL QB made it to the Super Bowl yet? I'm thinking maybe Joe Kapp, but I can't think of another.
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December 30th, 2024 at 9:47:40 AM permalink
Has a former CFL QB made it to the Super Bowl yet? I know Joe Kapp, did, but that was pre-merger and I can't think of another.

Kapp is also the only player I can think of that was traded from the CFL to the NFL.
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December 30th, 2024 at 10:04:23 AM permalink
Victor Wembanyma 's team played in Brooklyn on Christmas and had the 26th off before playing the Knicks.
He decided he wanted to play chess in Greenwich Village and took to social media, inviting his fans to join him.
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December 30th, 2024 at 10:23:49 AM permalink
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Has a former CFL QB made it to the Super Bowl yet? I know Joe Kapp, did, but that was pre-merger and I can't think of another.

Kapp is also the only player I can think of that was traded from the CFL to the NFL.
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I thought Joe Theismann won a Super Bowl.
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December 30th, 2024 at 3:45:13 PM permalink
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Josh Allen (likely) secured the MVP yesterday. He didn’t play in the 4th quarter, so his stats were underwhelming. Lamar has mostly better stats than Allen on the major categories. I am biased, but I think the overall talent surrounding Allen this year has been lower than what Jackson has. So I’d factor that in and give Allen my vote. You can make reasonable cases for Barkley, Burrow, and of course Mahomes as well. I think Jackson plays next week, while Allen won’t (maybe 1 play to keep a steak alive). What if Jackson runs for 100, throws 4 TDs and 350 yards?
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If they sit him and they lose, is he still MVP worthy? If they sit him and they win, is he still MVP worthy? To my recollection, TB12 never sat out games except for injuries and the Deflategate suspension.
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December 30th, 2024 at 4:10:10 PM permalink
As a fan, I want him at his best for the playoffs and have no problem with the coach sitting him. I think Allen would rather have a ring than the MVP trophy.
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Josh Allen (likely) secured the MVP yesterday. He didn’t play in the 4th quarter, so his stats were underwhelming. Lamar has mostly better stats than Allen on the major categories. I am biased, but I think the overall talent surrounding Allen this year has been lower than what Jackson has. So I’d factor that in and give Allen my vote. You can make reasonable cases for Barkley, Burrow, and of course Mahomes as well. I think Jackson plays next week, while Allen won’t (maybe 1 play to keep a steak alive). What if Jackson runs for 100, throws 4 TDs and 350 yards?
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If they sit him and they lose, is he still MVP worthy? If they sit him and they win, is he still MVP worthy? To my recollection, TB12 never sat out games except for injuries and the Deflategate suspension.
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There is NOTHING less important to the MVP discussion than the result of the Bills Patriots game if Allen only plays one play. I don’t know exactly who, but there will be another 15-20 Bills starters who barely see the field. I’ll be betting on the Patriots for sure. Getting 3 points as well.
I’m not sure what the ‘right’ thing to do in these meaningless games is.
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December 31st, 2024 at 3:43:50 AM permalink
An infrequent play for the NFL happened in the Jets game, but it seems to have gone unnoticed.
Aaron Rodgers, who appears to be trying to play his way out of town, threw an interception and hit the player well out of bounds. The result was an Unnecessary Roughness penalty, The first UR call against a QB in recent memory.
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December 31st, 2024 at 6:01:59 AM permalink
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Lebron is 40 now and is saying he believes he can play another 5-7 years

he would be 45 to 47 - if true it's quite amazing

at the present all his stats are about the same as when he was much younger - except his p.p.g. is down a little - afaik he's the only superstar who ever played the game at this high of a level at this advanced age

https://archive.ph/UR4ka

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Lebron is 40 now and is saying he believes he can play another 5-7 years

he would be 45 to 47 - if true it's quite amazing

at the present all his stats are about the same as when he was much younger - except his p.p.g. is down a little - afaik he's the only superstar who ever played the game at this high of a level at this advanced age

https://archive.ph/UR4ka

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Right now he is STILL a top 20 player in the league, maybe even top 10. It all depends on if he wants to play when he is the 100th best scorer layer. I think he plays until an injury, even a relatively minor one, sidetracks him.

I think Russell Westbrook did something no one else has ever done. Triple Double. No missed FGs. No missed FTs. No turnovers. 4 steals.

Same game Jokic had a Triple Double as well, with 20 rebounds.
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I was at the game. My nephew has Lions season tickets and took me. It was the first NFL game I ever attended.

Now my superstitious family thinks I’m bad luck. lol
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Buffalo Bill 48 Detroit Lions 42. The first game in NFL history to end in that score.

Scorigami.!!!
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I was at the game. My nephew has Lions season tickets and took me. It was the first NFL game I ever attended.

Now my superstitious family thinks I’m bad luck. lol
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Great first game. Trust me, not all NFL games are that exciting.
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