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June 30th, 2018 at 5:15:44 AM permalink
Quote: Keeneone

Knockout stage begins in about 11 hours. Which country is gonna win 4 straight for the Cup?
England seems like a solid pick to make the semifinals. Excited for tomorrow.




I think IF James Rodriguez plays for Columbia that they will upset England. He is questionable for the game with a calf injury. He is that good. If he plays I will make a bet for Columbia right before they start the game.
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June 30th, 2018 at 10:03:47 AM permalink
What a game today for France!!!
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June 30th, 2018 at 11:55:37 AM permalink
What a game by France
To come from behind then dominate
Wow
Uruguay ahead 1 to 0 halftime
Pressure is on Renaldo
Should be a great 2nd half
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July 1st, 2018 at 1:56:39 PM permalink
Russia and Croatia advance with Penalty Kick wins.
Not really sure why, but I enjoyed yesterday's games more.
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July 1st, 2018 at 2:32:17 PM permalink
Quote: Keeneone

Russia and Croatia advance with Penalty Kick wins.
Not really sure why, but I enjoyed yesterday's games more.



Yea, not as fun with games determined by penalty kicks
Are there other ideas to determine a game
I was thinking maybe after 120min
Pull the goalies instead and play on to sudden death

Nice to see the home country advance
Was rooting for Croatia due to an obvious scoring chance that the player was fouled right in front of the goal.
Croatia did not score on that penalty kick
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July 1st, 2018 at 5:27:55 PM permalink
Quote: vegas

I think IF James Rodriguez plays for Columbia that they will upset England. He is questionable for the game with a calf injury. He is that good. If he plays I will make a bet for Columbia right before they start the game.



Interesting you think my alma mater is playing in the World Cup. Perhaps you meant the country, Colombia......
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July 1st, 2018 at 5:34:45 PM permalink
The Russia - Spain game is why soccer in general sucks. neither of the first two goals resulted from an intentional attempt. The first was an accidental own goal, and the second a penalty as a result of an accidental hand ball. If you think about it, aiming for an opponents arm in the penalty box would yield more goals than trying to beat the goalie.

Spain dominated the game but had almost no scoring chances during the 120 minutes of drudgery. They passed back and forth to themselves nearly a thousand times because they had nothing else to do with the ball. Russia had maybe 3 shots in the general direction of the Spanish net in the two boring hours.

There have been some good games (Spain-Portugal stands out) but too many "WE just hope to get to penalty kicks or are happy for a draw" type games.
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July 1st, 2018 at 9:33:33 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Interesting you think my alma mater is playing in the World Cup. Perhaps you meant the country, Colombia......

Now don't be so parochial about your snooty little schoolhouse, Mr. Poo. I'm pretty sure he meant this:



Quote: Woody Guthrie

Roll on, Columbia, roll on
Roll on, Columbia, roll on
Your power is turning our darkness to dawn
So roll on, Columbia, roll on...

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July 2nd, 2018 at 8:26:54 AM permalink
Can anybody explain to me why I can watch the World Cup for free on like three different channels on over-the-air television, but I can't stream it or even listen to it online anywhere without having to pay??
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July 2nd, 2018 at 8:39:18 AM permalink
Telemundo app

Nvm, they just ended the free service without subscription. Build that Wall.
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July 2nd, 2018 at 12:13:39 PM permalink
Japan!!!!

That second goal was like a Tom Candiotti special am I rite
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July 2nd, 2018 at 12:34:10 PM permalink
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Telemundo app

Nvm, they just ended the free service without subscription. Build that Wall.



Haha.... immigrants are taking our jobs and World Cup coverage.
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July 2nd, 2018 at 1:24:19 PM permalink
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Telemundo app

Nvm, they just ended the free service without subscription. Build that Wall.



Just leave a few windows in ot.
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July 2nd, 2018 at 2:11:36 PM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

Japan!!!!

That second goal was like a Tom Candiotti special am I rite


What a heart breaker
Japan looked dominant 2-0
Then boom, Belgium tied quickly.
Then boom, 1 min from the game ending in a tie
Belgium scores
Wow

Earlier, Mexico just could not break through that tough tough Brazil D
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July 2nd, 2018 at 2:58:58 PM permalink
Soccer is a great game but they play it in the wrong order. The only consistently exciting part of the game is the shootout, The game should start with the shootout and the winner of the shootout wins the game. If the score is tied after the shootout, the punishment for the teams is having to play 90 minutes of that boring game.

Problem solved.
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July 2nd, 2018 at 3:05:25 PM permalink
Imagine Game 7 of the NBA being decided, not by overtime,but free throws.
A World Series game knotted at six gets decided by a home run hitting contest.
I find the whole thing absurd.
A Super bowl decided by place kicks, anyone?
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July 2nd, 2018 at 3:06:27 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Soccer is a great game but they play it in the wrong order. The only consistently exciting part of the game is the shootout, The game should start with the shootout and the winner of the shootout wins the game. If the score is tied after the shootout, the punishment for the teams is having to play 90 minutes of that boring game.



Imagine how much more boring it would be if they stopped the game every time someone kicked the ball to someone else and everyone just wandered around and talked for two minutes figuring out what the next strategy would be.

Oh, wait, I think I just described American Football...

Zing!
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July 2nd, 2018 at 3:07:01 PM permalink
Great games today. Japan looked very good until that last added minute. Great heart from Belgium to continue on and earn the win. Brazil looked dominate to me. Neymar's antics do get old, but team Brazil looks like the real deal.
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July 2nd, 2018 at 3:10:40 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Imagine Game 7 of the NBA being decided, not by overtime,but free throws.
A World Series game knotted at six gets decided by a home run hitting contest.
I find the whole thing absurd.



I love it. Way more exciting and intense.
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July 2nd, 2018 at 3:29:29 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Imagine Game 7 of the NBA being decided, not by overtime,but free throws.
A World Series game knotted at six gets decided by a home run hitting contest.
I find the whole thing absurd.
A Super bowl decided by place kicks, anyone?



I agree completely with the basketball and baseball scenarios that you describe. For football I think a Punt, Pass, and Kick contest would be more appropriate.
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July 2nd, 2018 at 4:19:54 PM permalink
Penalty Kicks do suck...but in soccer it is too easy to just have a shut down defensive posture that is almost impossible to penetrate, so sudden death overtime until someone scores is not a reasonable solution.

I would rather have alternating corner kicks where the numbers of players on each side are reduced to say 6. First team gets a corner kick with 6 v 6 in the penalty box (& a seventh player for the team taking the corner). The teams offensive attack concludes when the ball is cleared from the 18 yard box and is followed by the other team getting a corner kick. Just like in college football, you would get a chance at the last corner kick if your team goes second. At least that is closer to the game being decided by an actual soccer play as opposed to penalty kicks.

Japan...what a total melt down. The Japanese goalie misplayed that first goal (although he made up for it with some impressive saves later down the stretch, so you can't fault him for the loss) and the second one was the result of a counter attack. As I said above, it is relatively easy to keep 10 men on the defensive side of the ball and shut another team down, particularly when they need two goals to equalize. They decided to continue to play an attacking style and as the coach said after the game, try and get that 3rd goal...that bit them in the ass.
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July 5th, 2018 at 9:53:28 PM permalink
I dont like the over sized mickey mouse goalie gloves. Its getting ridiculous how big these things are. Its tough enough scoring. Get rid of those stupid looking gloves.

Whats the deal with the big circle in the middle of the field? Decoration?

With so much at stake, I am starting to see more wrestling moves then soccer moves during corner kicks and contesting for the ball. Getting pretty physical.
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July 5th, 2018 at 10:00:41 PM permalink
Why not sudden death overtime 6 on 6 for 5 minutes, 1 minute time out, 5 on 5 for 5 minutes, etc ?
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July 6th, 2018 at 5:41:07 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Imagine Game 7 of the NBA being decided, not by overtime,but free throws.
A World Series game knotted at six gets decided by a home run hitting contest.
I find the whole thing absurd.
A Super bowl decided by place kicks, anyone?



This analogy doesn't work because:

-Basketball has much more scoring and is therefore less likely to end in a tie post-overtime, even though basketball overtime is much shorter.
-Baseball is also higher-scoring and is not nearly as physically demanding as soccer when it comes to constant motion and contact.
-Football, again, is significantly higher-scoring, and in the NFL, the overtime results are significantly influenced by a literal coin flip. In college football, overtime is a condensed artificial version of the normal game.
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July 6th, 2018 at 5:47:44 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

I dont like the over sized mickey mouse goalie gloves. Its getting ridiculous how big these things are. Its tough enough scoring. Get rid of those stupid looking gloves.



Not sure if you're serious but I doubt that the glove size matters much. I kinda enjoy the big gloves.

Quote:

Whats the deal with the big circle in the middle of the field? Decoration?



During a kickoff, the team not kicking off has to be outside the circle.
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July 6th, 2018 at 6:38:52 AM permalink
Quote: MrGoldenSun

Not sure if you're serious but I doubt that the glove size matters much. I kinda enjoy the big gloves.


It does matter, maybe a few more goals scored meaning less of a chance of a shootout.
Besides, it looks dumb. When it comes to soccer equipment, only shoes.
0-0 scores suck

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During a kickoff, the team not kicking off has to be outside the circle.


Thanks
I was looking up soccer rules regarding that circle
A lot of the internet links regarding soccer rules don't mention the circle at all
Looking up rules, I thought it interesting that there is no official field size

Go Uruguay and go Belgium
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July 6th, 2018 at 7:14:39 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

It does matter, maybe a few more goals scored meaning less of a chance of a shootout.



Eh, it's such a small fraction of the goal area though that I don't think a few square inches matters. It's not like the goalie leg pads in ice hockey. I think the point of gloves is mostly to allow the keeper to catch the ball better and allow fewer rebounds, not to increase hand size. I'm not a soccer expert though.

Now if we're talking gloves versus no gloves, then I agree with you it would be a non-negligible difference.
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July 6th, 2018 at 8:14:12 AM permalink
Another thing to consider is goalkeeper safety. Strikers at the highest levels can and do break bones with their shots. In addition to better gripping, the bigger, padded gloves do provide some protection against that.

ETA...
Quote: MrGoldenSun

Not sure if you're serious but I doubt that the glove size matters much.

I think the ladies just say that so that goalkeepers with smaller gloves don't feel bad. :D
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July 7th, 2018 at 9:39:45 AM permalink
Where are the great World Cup commercials?
I hardly see any
Whats going on

This one is my all time favorite from 2010
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July 7th, 2018 at 9:53:41 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Yea, not as fun with games determined by penalty kicks
Are there other ideas to determine a game
I was thinking maybe after 120min
Pull the goalies instead and play on to sudden death


Anything short of 11-on-11 is going to be considered "not really soccer any more" by too many people to make any one method better than the others. Even sudden death (er, "golden goal") is frowned upon, as there are those who think it gives the advantage to the team on the "better" side of the field, which is why extra time does not end after 15 minutes if the score is not tied at that point. However, even "keep playing" has its problems; as players get tired, it's less a contest of soccer skill and more an endurance test.

If it was up to me: 10 minutes of 11-on-11, then 10 of 10-on-10, then 10 of 9-on-9, and so on until one team is down to 7 players, which is considered the minimum team size for "proper" soccer.
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July 7th, 2018 at 11:49:34 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Where are the great World Cup commercials?
I hardly see any
Whats going on

This one is my all time favorite from 2010




The one w the long knee slide is really funny! I think it was GEICO
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July 7th, 2018 at 12:23:51 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Anything short of 11-on-11 is going to be considered "not really soccer any more" by too many people to make any one method better than the others.



Pulling the goalies is more soccer then deciding with penalty kicks
By pulling the goalies wont change the game much except it makes getting a goal easier
First off, good defense prevents balls from even getting to the goalie
If goalies were pulled, I'm sure teams will assign a player to guard the goal but now he cant use his hands
The game would still be soccer with more scoring chances
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July 7th, 2018 at 12:24:55 PM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

Quote: terapined

Where are the great World Cup commercials?
I hardly see any
Whats going on

This one is my all time favorite from 2010




The one w the long knee slide is really funny! I think it was GEICO



I do like the Geico commercial
Its pretty funny
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July 7th, 2018 at 1:06:31 PM permalink
This South African KFC ad is pretty good:

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July 7th, 2018 at 5:51:23 PM permalink
4 survivors left:

France vs Belgium
Croatia vs England

I am pulling for a FRA/ENG final. It would be entertaining. I am becoming a fan of K. Mbeppe. His speed and talent (not his antics) are impressive. H. Kane may have the Golden Boot wrapped up. Could the World Cup be "coming home"?
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July 7th, 2018 at 6:32:04 PM permalink
France England is the most likely final, but still only 30% chance it will be.

Though I’m not a big soccer fan, I imagine that would be a hell of a battle.
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July 7th, 2018 at 7:30:20 PM permalink
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Great. I take Spain and you take Brazil to win the Cup. $20. Draw if neither team win. Thanks.


This has resulted in a draw. No winner. Thank you for the wager.
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July 7th, 2018 at 7:33:06 PM permalink
And those who thought Putin would have Croatia’s food poisoned also lost.
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July 9th, 2018 at 9:21:48 AM permalink
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This has resulted in a draw. No winner. Thank you for the wager.

Same here. Thanks for taking my wager. I like this kind of wager because there is a chance to draw.
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July 9th, 2018 at 9:39:55 AM permalink
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And those who thought Putin would have Croatia’s food poisoned also lost.



Russia would not go that far
I am sure all the Russian players were juiced
The worst ranked team gets to the semifinals
The juice worked
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July 10th, 2018 at 9:35:43 PM permalink
France

contre

???
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July 10th, 2018 at 11:26:58 PM permalink
I have bet France to win the Cup.
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July 11th, 2018 at 2:30:18 AM permalink
It's funny seeing these American touts offering, for a fee, picks on the World Cup games. How could they possibly know anything about soccer? I guess the same question can be asked about the NFL, MLB etc., but, if there was ever any doubt these are just touts now you have it in said "picks".
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July 14th, 2018 at 8:06:55 AM permalink
Its interesting Trump is in Europe and saying Immigration is ruining their culture
Hmm
Has Trump looked at France and their World Cup Team in the championship game
Without immigration, no way France is in this game

Samuel Umtiti was born in Cameroon, Steve Mandanda in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Paul Pogba's parents are from Guinea, N'Golo Kante's from Mali. Blaise Matuidi's parents are from Angola and came to France via DR Congo. Kylian Mbappe has an Algerian mother and a Cameroonian father. Presnel Kimpembe and Steven Nzonzi's fathers are Congolese. Corentin Tolisso's dad is from Togo. The list goes on.
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Quote: terapined

Its interesting Trump is in Europe and saying Immigration is ruining their culture
Hmm
Has Trump looked at France and their World Cup Team in the championship game
Without immigration, no way France is in this game

Samuel Umtiti was born in Cameroon, Steve Mandanda in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Paul Pogba's parents are from Guinea, N'Golo Kante's from Mali. Blaise Matuidi's parents are from Angola and came to France via DR Congo. Kylian Mbappe has an Algerian mother and a Cameroonian father. Presnel Kimpembe and Steven Nzonzi's fathers are Congolese. Corentin Tolisso's dad is from Togo. The list goes on.

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If you consider amassing a bunch of foreigners and calling them the French National Soccer Team an indication of ‘good culture’, then I’ll take Trump’s definition....
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July 14th, 2018 at 2:47:25 PM permalink
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then I’ll take Trump’s definition....

My definition of trumph is:

a) a DICK
b) the WORST thing to happen to the USA since, well, since trumph was elected.
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July 14th, 2018 at 3:36:03 PM permalink
I am thinking France will win the final. They are very talented and young. The extra day of rest likely helps them. Croatia has been solid and workmanlike.
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July 14th, 2018 at 6:40:41 PM permalink
If forced to root for either side, I'll go with France, but don't really care.
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July 15th, 2018 at 6:32:56 AM permalink
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If forced to root for either side, I'll go with France, but don't really care.



I second the notion of not caring. Chances are that if you are an American, you don't give a shit about soccer unless you have money riding on the games.

That being said, the fun part is to try and pick the winning team and the score since it's so f%=g boring to watch the games with 100 minutes played and usually a one nothing score.

I do like France and I'll stick with the trend and have them winning 2-0. Number 10 from france will score at least one if not both goals.
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July 15th, 2018 at 6:56:47 AM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

I second the notion of not caring. Chances are that if you are an American, you don't give a shit about soccer unless you have money riding on the games.

That being said, the fun part is to try and pick the winning team and the score since it's so f%=g boring to watch the games with 100 minutes played and usually a one nothing score.

I do like France and I'll stick with the trend and have them winning 2-0. Number 10 from france will score at least one if not both goals.



I think soccer is much more exciting and enjoyable to watch than basketball, football or baseball. (Not hockey) The game is always moving. It lasts under two hours which is a huge plus. The lack of scoring just makes each goal hugely important.

The first 45 minutes of a basketball game don't really matter. The last 3 minutes last 20 minutes.

A close baseball game lasts 4 hours now. There's tons of time between pitches, and tons of breaks.

There's about 12 minutes of action in a 3 hour 15 min football game.

I think the notion that Americans don't care about soccer is outdated.
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