Thread Rating:

JohnnyQ
JohnnyQ
Joined: Nov 3, 2009
  • Threads: 235
  • Posts: 3600
April 22nd, 2012 at 12:37:30 PM permalink
Fleastiff mentioned this in another thread.

I think it is worth a new thread.

Here are the Details.

How can they afford to do this ?

Does anyone know if this applies to VP machines,
or truly only slot machines. ?

Isn't this a decent deal even if it might only be
good on Slots ?

And from the rules, I don't know if they mean I can
play it or NOT play it because I have NOT played
there for the past 24 months.
Like the castle in its corner In a medieval game; I foresee terrible trouble And I stay here just the same
JB
Administrator
JB
Joined: Oct 14, 2009
  • Threads: 334
  • Posts: 2089
April 22nd, 2012 at 1:19:46 PM permalink
That paragraph is poorly worded, but I think you're out of luck based on the first rule, which says "New member sign-ups only."

Quote: JohnnyQ

How can they afford to do this ?


By including (and subsequently invoking) this rule: "Management reserves the right to alter, limit or cancel this offer without notice."
FleaStiff
FleaStiff
Joined: Oct 19, 2009
  • Threads: 265
  • Posts: 14484
April 22nd, 2012 at 2:01:50 PM permalink
They can always afford to offer just about any deal that they can revoke if it goes bad.

They have no idea how many will take advantage of it and how many will lose versus will win. Most people with a grand ain't going to the Riviera without some sort of inducement anyway.

That paragraph is poorly worded and is being misinterpreted by some very experienced gamblers so it will probably be misinterpreted by some very experienced hosts and floor persons too.

Its a same DAY loss rebate, so you be darn careful about a DAY and not 24 hours from when you join the club or the casino's "legal day" that probably starts at 4:00am.

With that second Freeplay... it will stay there for about a year so that is probably good enough for most gamblers anyway.
JohnnyQ
JohnnyQ
Joined: Nov 3, 2009
  • Threads: 235
  • Posts: 3600
April 22nd, 2012 at 6:25:05 PM permalink
Quote: JB

That paragraph is poorly worded, but I think you're out of luck based on the first rule, which says "New member sign-ups only."



I may check it out in person in July. Who knows,
depending on how well (or poorly they are doing)
maybe they will let me play.

The TROP let me play their $ 200 loss rebate,
even though I had been a players club member
a number of years ago.

Lesson learned:

It doesn't hurt to ask (politely of course).
Like the castle in its corner In a medieval game; I foresee terrible trouble And I stay here just the same
Wizard
Administrator
Wizard
Joined: Oct 14, 2009
  • Threads: 1399
  • Posts: 23626
April 22nd, 2012 at 7:03:32 PM permalink
I think this is pretty strong. I'd do it if I didn't already have a card. HB is still in town, if she has $1,000 to blow I will recommend she does it.

The strategy is go play as high denomination as you can. Try to blow the $1,000 as quickly as possible, or win something big trying to lose. It sounds paradoxical, but you only benefit from the promotion if you lose.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
winmonkeyspit3
winmonkeyspit3
Joined: Dec 30, 2011
  • Threads: 26
  • Posts: 451
April 22nd, 2012 at 7:15:54 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I think this is pretty strong. I'd do it if I didn't already have a card. HB is still in town, if she has $1,000 to blow I will recommend she does it.

The strategy is go play as high denomination as you can. Try to blow the $1,000 as quickly as possible, or win something big trying to lose. It sounds paradoxical, but you only benefit from the promotion if you lose.



Curious to hear more about this. I know the strategy is to go for the big hit, but couldn't another AP be to play for a long day at a more modest bet and rack up a ton of comps? If betting $2 or $3 a spin you could play for a long time and rack up a lot of comp dollars before losing $1000. Also, what is the optimal strategy once you lose? Go for the big hit on the free play, or just try to put enough coin-in to cash out the freeplay?
progrocker
progrocker
Joined: Feb 21, 2010
  • Threads: 4
  • Posts: 303
April 22nd, 2012 at 7:51:31 PM permalink
This is basically the Tropicana deal except five times the size, eh? I think I'll try this out on Thursday. Vpfree2 shows the best games as 9/7 DB, 9/6 DDB and DW44 in quarter and dollar. I guess I should play DDB at the dollar level and hope for some quads. If I get to the freeplay stage, I'd go at the quarter level and I believe DW44 has the lowest variance, correct?
Solo venimos, solo nos vamos. Y aqui nos juntamos, juntos que estamos.
Wizard
Administrator
Wizard
Joined: Oct 14, 2009
  • Threads: 1399
  • Posts: 23626
April 22nd, 2012 at 7:56:37 PM permalink
For this promotion, I would value video poker as follows, from most to least important:

1. Denomination (you want it high).
2. Volatility (you want it high).
3. Return.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
RogerKint
RogerKint
Joined: Dec 5, 2011
  • Threads: 15
  • Posts: 1909
April 22nd, 2012 at 8:16:31 PM permalink
I will be signing up for this on Saturday. Hopefully management doesn't invoke it's right to limit this promotion before then.
100% risk of ruin
kenarman
kenarman
Joined: Nov 22, 2009
  • Threads: 28
  • Posts: 966
April 22nd, 2012 at 8:18:01 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

I may check it out in person in July. Who knows,
depending on how well (or poorly they are doing)
maybe they will let me play.

The TROP let me play their $ 200 loss rebate,
even though I had been a players club member
a number of years ago.

Lesson learned:

It doesn't hurt to ask (politely of course).



Their website says if you haven't been active for 24 months you are good to go.
Be careful when you follow the masses, the M is sometimes silent.

  • Jump to: