Can anybody get me some Par sheets for some current progressive slots?
Quote: teddysThe Wizard is working with an attorney to get PAR sheets for various slots through the Freedom of Information Act. I hope he doesn't mind me revealing that; maybe he will comment on it.
I think you have two of my stories mixed up. To make a long story short, I don't have any PAR sheets I can legally share and lost my legal fight over another similar matter. More on that when I write about it in May.
Quote: teddysThe Wizard is working with an attorney to get PAR sheets for various slots through the Freedom of Information Act.
Dr Kevin A. Harrigan and Mike Dixon, University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada got PARS sheets from the Canadian government for their article entitled.
PAR Sheets, probabilities, and slot machine play: Implications for problem and non-problem gambling
Journal of Gambling Issues: Issue 23, June 2009
There are some PARS sheets for old games that have been posted online (see my blog) but not progressive games.
Quote: pacomartinThere are some PARS sheets for old games that have been posted online. I am not sure what the big deal is about them, as the tricks are not overly difficult to figure out.
I have a whole box of PAR sheets but don't want to get sued for publishing them. It is really no big deal to have some. I already explain how some slots are designed on my Odds site much more clearly than any PAR sheet.
Wiz- I am anxious to hear what happens in may. I am jealous of your sheets. If I had them, I would make a professional slot player app with calculators for the more common progressives. Throw in the mystery progressive target point calculator with some other gambling tips and ouila! You have professional slot playing for dummies.
Quote: WizardI think you have two of my stories mixed up. To make a long story short, I don't have any PAR sheets I can legally share and lost my legal fight over another similar matter. More on that when I write about it in May.
Darn, but I look forward to reading it. I was all ready to pay $20 for the legal defense fund.
Quote: MoosetonI am jealous of your sheets. If I had them, I would make a professional slot player app with calculators for the more common progressives. Throw in the mystery progressive target point calculator with some other gambling tips and ouila! You have professional slot playing for dummies.
My PAR sheets are for games from the late nineties and early zeros. As far as I know, none are progressive.
Quote: AlanMendelsonIs it out of order for me to ask if the FOI case was against government regulators or were you bringing it against the manufacturers?
You, sir, are out of order! Sorry, I've always wanted to say that. The case was against the Nevada Gaming Control Board, and I lost. The story is pretty boring; don't get your hopes up. After a lot of legal expense on both sides the judge ruled against me without stating a reason.
What is relevant disclosure?
You tell a mesmerized drunk: you put your money in here and you press this little red button here, then lights flash and you either win or lose.
Is a casino required to disclose how bright the lights are or how sultry the recorded voice is? The only disclosure issue is the stats of hitting it big or not hitting it at all.
Such disclosure now appears to be made as a percentage basis over a non-defined "long term".
Quote: smokalottWizard, what were Gaming's arguments against allowing access?
Proprietary information.
Quote: nmacgreIncluding reel strips on a PAR sheet is becoming less and less of a common practice. Furthermore, a large majority of newer games cannot be calculated given the reel strips alone (other critical information is left off of the PAR sheets).
Yeah, I once saw a PAR sheet with a progressive bonus game, and all the PAR sheet stated was the average return of the entire bonus game as a whole. It was completely worthless in figuring out things like "break even meters", etc. No way you could double check the math for that portion either.
