MrRalph
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July 25th, 2011 at 6:04:29 AM permalink
Going to Vegas this weekend. I have studied pai gow poker and want to try the game. Does anybody have any real life casino advice for this game other than the basic strategy found on the wizards web site? Thanks
SOOPOO
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July 25th, 2011 at 6:52:46 AM permalink
It is always ok to ask the dealer for help if you are unclear. Avoid the bonus bets as they are very high house edge bets. Enjoy!
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July 25th, 2011 at 6:56:36 AM permalink
Find a place you enjoy, where you're comfortable with the minimmum bet required, should that be an issue. Also don't let the dealer rush you, but if you find you're taking to long to set you hands, then you may consider asking the dealer for advice. If you will try banking, which the Wizards' strategy recommends, get all your questions about it resolved ahead of time.
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DJTeddyBear
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July 25th, 2011 at 6:59:26 AM permalink
If you get stuck and need to ask the dealer or others for help, wait until everyone else has finished setting their hand before showing your cards.

If you ask the dealer, he'll suggest the House Way. The house way is the best for the house but not necessarily for the player. It doesn't affect many hands, but the house way is not designed to win, but to avoid losing. It's a very subtle difference, but one that is important to the house, since they are playing against up to 6 hands at a time.

If you see it, play Dan's EZ Pai Gow.
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July 25th, 2011 at 7:09:31 AM permalink
Don't get impatient. Sometimes it can take a while to win some hands. If you bring 15 units and you're betting 1 unit a hand, you'll have enough for a long time at the table.

Also, if you're going to play the bonus, I'd start out playing low on the bonus. If you're betting $25 a hand and $5 on the bonus, you'll probably lose more on the bonus bet for the session then you will on the regular bet.
ThatDonGuy
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July 25th, 2011 at 7:18:39 AM permalink
How well does the strategy of "make the best two-card hand that isn't better than your five-card hand" do?

(You would think there are cases where it is counter-intuitive - for example, if you have a full house of, say, fives full of deuces, the strategy is to use the deuces as your two-card hand - but if it's twos full, you also make your two-card hand as a pair of deuces, even though you're not only breaking up a full house, but a three of a kind as well.)
MrRalph
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July 25th, 2011 at 11:50:16 AM permalink
Thanks for the info. Any idea how much you should have in chips if you want to bank at a $25 table?
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July 25th, 2011 at 12:32:11 PM permalink
When I go to any table at a casino, I bring 20 times the table minimum.
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July 25th, 2011 at 12:45:49 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

but if it's twos full, you also make your two-card hand as a pair of deuces, even though you're not only breaking up a full house, but a three of a kind as well.)


With a full house, keep the three-of-a-kind together and put the pair up.

Quote: MrRalph

Any idea how much you should have in chips if you want to bank at a $25 table?


A few thousand?

I figure a $25 table, if full, will typically have people betting $25-$150. I'm taking a wild assed guess that you may be facing $300 in bets. Of course you'll likely win one, lose one, and push a couple. But I'd still like to have a bankroll of at least 10x$300 facing that kind of opposition.
DJTeddyBear
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July 25th, 2011 at 1:35:12 PM permalink
Most casinos (all?) will not let you bank unless the chips in front of you exceed the total of what was bet the last hand. I'm sure they'll let you top off before dealing, if you're a little shy.

Note that many people, for whatever reason, will sit out the hand when a player banks. I do not know if they take this into consideration when checking your bankroll.

Also, unless I'm mistaken, most casinos do not allow player banking for EZ Pai Gow.
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