DorothyGale
DorothyGale
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October 30th, 2011 at 7:11:58 AM permalink
Quote: andysif

This is getting SOOOOOOO funny.
It's like that guy is having a reading disability or something.

Yes ...
Quote: clempops4

I did not record the 12 as it was a no decision when betting the DONT.

It's just sad ... at any rate, the data for the come out rolls is statistically normal ... so that does you no good at all in trying to make your case:



Distribution of Don't Pass Come Out Rolls
Roll # Exp CHI
4 207 226.6 1.699
5 321 302.2 1.174
6 372 377.7 0.086
8 352 377.7 1.750
9 328 302.2 2.209
10 233 226.6 0.179
Total 1813 7.097
p-value 0.214



As far as this:
Quote: clempops4


When betting the PASS 600 decisions the 2 and 3 showed up 80 times.
When betting the DONT 2600 decisions the 2 or 3 showed up 86 times.


Yes, that is something very significant ...

Look, just say the casino, let me and others investigate ...

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clempops4
clempops4
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October 30th, 2011 at 4:57:31 PM permalink
If the come out roll on 4 is 8.33% and it comes out a 4 83 times in 1000 bets which is statically within range and I win only 15 of the 83 bets betting on DONT PASS is that statistically normal?

I will send the site name only in a private message.

How do we know if they may only have set it up for me to lose and yet be normal statistically for anyone else. I was winning for a while although I was only slightly ahead winning slightly more that 50% of my bets at the time.
clempops4
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October 30th, 2011 at 5:08:11 PM permalink
On youtube I posted 4 blocks of 100 which includes every roll. I guess I can post the other 2800 decisions but if the resolution is 843 wins and 2357 losers in 3200 bets I don't know why the bets in between have any impact. It takes about 45 minutes to dowload 100 decisions but if need be I will download them.
boymimbo
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October 30th, 2011 at 6:05:12 PM permalink
Dorothy, I will go through the results of the blocks
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teliot
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October 30th, 2011 at 6:11:28 PM permalink
I'm going to look into this. I've come across no actual cases of malice in my audits. I've seen a fair share of goofs; all were quickly remedied. Most of the time, when players complain about online casino fairness, they've had a bad run and there is really nothing there. But it seems to be safe to say, in this case, that it just doesn't look right.
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CrystalMath
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October 30th, 2011 at 6:34:53 PM permalink
Quote: DorothyGale

... at any rate, the data for the come out rolls is statistically normal ... so that does you no good at all in trying to make your case:



Distribution of Don't Pass Come Out Rolls
Roll # Exp CHI
4 207 226.6 1.699
5 321 302.2 1.174
6 372 377.7 0.086
8 352 377.7 1.750
9 328 302.2 2.209
10 233 226.6 0.179
Total 1813 7.097
p-value 0.214




Yes, but in 3200 rolls, you should set 2011 points with a standard deviation of 27. So, he's 7 standard deviations low on the number of points set.
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andysif
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October 30th, 2011 at 6:38:20 PM permalink
Quote: clempops4

If the come out roll on 4 is 8.33% and it comes out a 4 83 times in 1000 bets which is statically within range and I win only 15 of the 83 bets betting on DONT PASS is that statistically normal?

I will send the site name only in a private message.

How do we know if they may only have set it up for me to lose and yet be normal statistically for anyone else. I was winning for a while although I was only slightly ahead winning slightly more that 50% of my bets at the time.


Nobody is saying you don't have a case, for crying out loud. Most people even agreed that something is fishy.
BUT THEY WANT THE RAW DATA.

In case you still miss it, that's
RAW DATA
boymimbo
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October 30th, 2011 at 7:07:37 PM permalink
Video #4, Raw Data (25 wins, 75 losses). OP is betting don't pass only, $1 on each roll. I've included come outs of 12s as an unresolved result.

RollsResult1234567891011121314151617181920
1L410594
2L11
3L66
4W899967
5L454
6L99
7W3
8W9128381188547
9L99
10W9686524647
11L85431045111111456610116958
12L10510
13L41134
14L7
15W97
16L66
17L66
18W497
19L44
20L10510
21L66
22L9311811559
23L7
24L11
25L545
26L7
27L6101196
28W87
29L7
30L1010
31L7
32W3
33W45107
34L949
35L88
36L7
37L54485
38L7
39L7
40W1247
41W3
42L7
43L129102689
44L7
45L7
46L127
47L1099598510
48L66
49W4107
50W3
51L7
52L535
53W4107
54L11
55L646
56L88
57L7
58L7
59W867
60W598867
61L11
62L563112445
63L7
64L11
65L99
66L11
67L7
68L96669
69L1010
70L11
71L6856
72L65386
73L566125
74W2
75W847
76L910859
77L4210384
78L7
79L99
80W937
81W587
82L8498
83L7
84W5997
85L10410
86L64981236
87L1211
88L811398
89L127
90L11
91W837
92L44
93L7
94L7
95W67
96L898
97W5810889847
98L7
99L7
100W67


Interesting that the frequency of 7s after the come out roll is 20 in 196 rolls. On the come out, The Yo shows up 9 times, the Ace-Deuce 4 times, and the Snake-Eyes once. Big Red appears on the come out roll 23 times.

I'm working through Video #3 now.
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boymimbo
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October 30th, 2011 at 8:03:29 PM permalink
Video #3, raw data (23 wins, 77 losses). This guy is getting CHEATED.

Rolls12345678910111213141516
1L99
2L969
3W542867
4L11
5L511241225
6L6559856
7L685386
8W2
9L127
10L7
11L1011646612445810
12L6106
13W1029115497
14L11
15L7
16W4117
17L10810
18W5311833861187
19W67
20L7
21L596103693891245
22L489654
23L7
24L7
25L6526
26L1010
27W95107
28W912647
29W567
30L12563495
31L464
32L7
33L55
34L964111059
35L7
36L7
37L51045
38L10983119610
39L11
40L8358
41W8109101267
42L96339
43W87
44W47
45L566999128335
46L9119
47L989
48L55
49L948849
50L1211
51W108961248697
52L7
53W941061128247
54L466988661168894
55L7
56L11
57L1083996844510
58W948587
59L7
60W67
61L11
62L7
63L7
64L989
65L5465
66L898
67L99
68L99
69L64356
70L6106
71L7
72L11
73L529128688126866125
74L1211
75W67
76L59485
77L11
78W851097
79L7
80L911589
81L9861210454864559
82L7
83W1037
84L7
85L6106
86L6101185496
87W58107
88W6553991111105947
89L51069869665
90W57
91L88
92L86668
93L595
94W467
95L93629
96L585
97L10114355951198549810
98L56881095
99L898
100L658126


Come out rolls: 11 loser: 9; 3 winner 0; 2 winner 1; 7 on the comeout 18.

Frequency of 7s after the come out roll: 22 times in 328 POST come out rolls. According to my friendly binomial calculator, the odds of this happening (22 times or less 7s in 328 rolls) is 6.661E-08 or 15,012,790:1.

OUCH! This set featured 2 5 point fire bet winners.
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boymimbo
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October 30th, 2011 at 8:15:24 PM permalink
For those who are interested, the name of the casino is featured about 23:53 of the 3rd video.
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