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July 21st, 2021 at 2:41:00 PM permalink
If playing in Las Vegas for a length of time I would spend a few days going to casinos buying and hoarding chips before I played a hand. Of course your bankroll limitations/liquidation may not allow this but having your entire bankroll in chips rather than in cash may help you play in a way to avoid running out of money or a structuring charge with a consequence of having to give up your id.
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July 21st, 2021 at 3:45:25 PM permalink
Many poker tournament winnings are paid out in gaming chips vs cash. You receive a W2G but there is no CTR to complete. However if you go to the cage and try to cash out any amount in excess of $10k, then a CTR is required. To beat the system, enlist others to help you cash your chips. Give them $2500 each, or simply cash out under $10k everyday.
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July 21st, 2021 at 4:02:22 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Many poker tournament winnings are paid out in gaming chips vs cash. You receive a W2G but there is no CTR to complete. However if you go to the cage and try to cash out any amount in excess of $10k, then a CTR is required. To beat the system, enlist others to help you cash your chips. Give them $2500 each, or simply cash out under $10k everyday.

just be careful. That’s structuring and it’s a federal crime.
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July 22nd, 2021 at 7:22:06 AM permalink
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But you’re going to have to continue to do it. One timers, here and there’s likely won’t have an issue. A card counter is going to have to do this on a regular basis.

My argument is that eventually one or several casinos will figure out what you’re doing if there’s a structuring attempt. Obviously there is. Once one knows you’re doing it and it’s tied to card counting…they all know.



Mr TD. After reviewing the blackjack survey there are only 10 casinos worth visiting on my prospecting trip. I see no reason to consider Data participants that aren't offering a decent game in the first place. No need to check out the tiny whineys either. Not ready to play $100 shoes until Im convinced 6 decks can be beaten.

One of my questions will be about allowing one and two hand play on 2 deck games. If one can't go back and forth, the game is a threshold at best. Not an advantage.
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July 22nd, 2021 at 7:34:16 AM permalink
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One of my questions will be about allowing one and two hand play on 2 deck games. If one can't go back and forth, the game is a threshold at best. Not an advantage.



I think most casinos willallow you to do this. Understand that is one of the signs that will catch the pits attention. They know counters do this regularly. It is probably a good idea to leave the table at the end of the deck when playing multiple hands at an advantage.
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July 22nd, 2021 at 8:54:46 AM permalink
These are the 10 I feel are worth looking into after reviewing the Blackjack Survey.

Aria; Bellagio; Ceasars Palace; Encore; Flamingo; Harrahs; MGM Grand; Mirage; Venetion; Westgate.

I look forward to input as to which ones I should add to or remove from this list.

9 out of 10 are on Las Vegas Blvd South. 8 are between 3355 and 3799. Are these within walking distance? If so, where is the best place to park?

Im in good shape. Efficiency is a high consideration. My lady is a machine player and from Cal. So comps and rooms are also doable.
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July 22nd, 2021 at 9:34:25 AM permalink
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Mr TD. After reviewing the blackjack survey there are only 10 casinos worth visiting on my prospecting trip. I see no reason to consider Data participants that aren't offering a decent game in the first place. No need to check out the tiny whineys either. Not ready to play $100 shoes until Im convinced 6 decks can be beaten.

One of my questions will be about allowing one and two hand play on 2 deck games. If one can't go back and forth, the game is a threshold at best. Not an advantage.


So, you are going to take $200,000 per year for 10 years from these 10 casinos, totaling about $2,000,000 from 10 casinos….playing, I assume on some type of regular, rotating basis as one needs to actually apply his craft to make money, right? In the same realm, you are also going to attempt some form of structuring in the process, also attempting to remain under the radar.

And you think all of this will go unnoticed or “don’t care” by the casinos…with the idea that if 1 casino catches on to your not only advantage play card counting but also attempting to “hide your tracks”, money wise.

Yeah…I’m skeptical.
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July 22nd, 2021 at 9:56:19 AM permalink
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I think most casinos willallow you to do this. Understand that is one of the signs that will catch the pits attention. They know counters do this regularly. It is probably a good idea to leave the table at the end of the deck when playing multiple hands at an advantage.


If you are winning regular money on a consistent play basis..meaning they know your face, how long is it going to take the casino to figure out he’s a card counter and “just let him be” is going to be the mentality of the pit?
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July 22nd, 2021 at 10:11:31 AM permalink
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I” is going to be the mentality of the pit?



Since the reopening, I have noticed that many of the floor in the pits did not return, and were replaced by junior type employees, novice at best identifying AP. At least here in Reno/Sparks.

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