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July 21st, 2021 at 8:06:13 AM permalink
Also, even if chips did bulge in your pocket, a would-be assailant probably figures they are more likely to be whites or reds.

Meantime, people tend not to carry 100 singles all over the place.
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July 21st, 2021 at 8:52:35 AM permalink
Hiding chips. Pocketing chips isn't doing you any favors. Casinos are constantly rating and auditing your game. They keep track of all buy ins, rebuys and pretty much know who leaves broke and who leaves with chips. And when people leave with chips, dealers are instructed to chip up! Meaning if you you have 2 stacks of black, its frowned uponed if you take those with you, it screws up their rack. So they will give you 2 chips or 4 $500 chips. It's your decision then whether you want to go to the cage and cash them. In summary, the pit always know how much the table is winning or losing and how much each player is winning or losing. If you begin pocketing chips, its just going to draw more attention and then they are going to put more time and effort into your vame trying to figure out where the missing money is or went.

When you chip up, there is no CTR. Its only for cash transactions, so you would have to go to the cage in the event you cash for $10k. Even $3000 in cash is recorded, but no forms are required. They just want to make sure any additional transactions don't exceed $10k.

Carrying cash, buying in for cash just draws more attention and its recorded. Always sit down with chips.
Never cash out your chips, or have at least keep a good bankroll with them.
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July 21st, 2021 at 9:25:02 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Yes it would, but like everything if you do it smartly you can probably get away with it.


But you’re going to have to continue to do it. One timers, here and there’s likely won’t have an issue. A card counter is going to have to do this on a regular basis.

My argument is that eventually one or several casinos will figure out what you’re doing if there’s a structuring attempt. Obviously there is. Once one knows you’re doing it and it’s tied to card counting…they all know.
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July 21st, 2021 at 10:54:31 AM permalink
Well put and spot on Vrider. Now that I live here. It's a trip to the bank for sports bets.

I dont think Im setting of any alarms playing $25 to 50 min tables with $500 and $1,000 buy ins.

Bank account, $100s in one pocket. The rest and car keys in the other. Cards and coupons in the back. 😄
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July 21st, 2021 at 11:00:34 AM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

But you’re going to have to continue to do it. One timers, here and there’s likely won’t have an issue. A card counter is going to have to do this on a regular basis.

My argument is that eventually one or several casinos will figure out what you’re doing if there’s a structuring attempt. Obviously there is. Once one knows you’re doing it and it’s tied to card counting…they all know.



I always assume they know. Question is do they care? Casino Tolerance. My experience has been large casinos dont sweat the small stuff as much as the small ones. I dont hide or hoard chips.

If I had it to do all over again. I wouldve never played one hand in a casino that didnt offer a green chip minimum.

So there is somewhere between 30 and 80 casinos that offer blackjack. Any idea how many are small and/or intolarant?
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July 21st, 2021 at 12:03:39 PM permalink
It helps to be the smallest fish at the table.
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July 21st, 2021 at 12:20:20 PM permalink
The Wizard of Vegas site has a survey on which games are in which casinos -at least, Vegas Casinos. This includes blackjack games, their rules and their minimums.

WOV Casino Survey site

The problem is that the Blackjack Survey hasn't been updated since Jul 2019, and the other surveys haven't been updated since 2014-2017.

I always thought this Casino Games Survey was a great feature of WOV; it's sad to see it fall into this state.
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July 21st, 2021 at 12:28:41 PM permalink
It looks like more and more that ill never be able to go back to vegas. I visited once in the last 3 years to cash chips. Im too busy. But maybe something will change: my mom selling businesses and land.

My neighbor asked for a business card for cutting trees with my bucket truck. I said that i dont have time
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July 21st, 2021 at 12:58:04 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

The Wizard of Vegas site has a survey on which games are in which casinos -at least, Vegas Casinos. This includes blackjack games, their rules and their minimums.

WOV Casino Survey site

The problem is that the Blackjack Survey hasn't been updated since Jul 2019, and the other surveys haven't been updated since 2014-2017.

I always thought this Casino Games Survey was a great feature of WOV; it's sad to see it fall into this state.


Thank you very much Gordon888. That shrinks the list down a gooid bit. About 25 casinos worth checking. About 3 days of prospecting should be enough time to provide a visual?

Excellent work.
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July 21st, 2021 at 1:56:22 PM permalink
Are there any casinos offering $50 min. and up that stopped offering blackjack since 2019?

Is there a dealer shoe cut that make a game unplayable? Most are 1..2, 1.5, 1.7.

Are Database Participants to be avoided for was playing with reasonable spreads?

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