moses
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July 20th, 2021 at 1:02:55 PM permalink
So I answered your question. How about mine?

I saw a list of about 80 casinos that offered blackjack in Vegas. I read in threads it was more like 40. Maybe more like 10 when it comes to major casinos offering a fair game?
Vegasrider
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July 20th, 2021 at 1:09:38 PM permalink
You can't consider those dive small casinos as a realistic place to make money. The size of your wager would immediately exceed the table max, lol. Those casinos have been nonexistent to me. You may want to add the Nugget to the list of plays, they usually have a $50 minimum table on the weekends. But realistically only 4 casinos in Reno, but there is Tahoe.

Get a real nice RV, and hit all the casinos driving around the country. There is some video on YouTube where a professional BJ player who drove around to all of the casinos, posting his win and loss totals in addition to the videos of him getting getting 86'd as an AP. But what made the video interesting is that he knew all the rules and gaming laws from state to state. As many casinos made up there own rules along the way just to screw with him but at the end, making the casinos look like idiots. A must watch in my opinion.
moses
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July 20th, 2021 at 1:52:47 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

You can't consider those dive small casinos as a realistic place to make money. The size of your wager would immediately exceed the table max, lol. Those casinos have been nonexistent to me. You may want to add the Nugget to the list of plays, they usually have a $50 minimum table on the weekends. But realistically only 4 casinos in Reno, but there is Tahoe.

Get a real nice RV, and hit all the casinos driving around the country. There is some video on YouTube where a professional BJ player who drove around to all of the casinos, posting his win and loss totals in addition to the videos of him getting getting 86'd as an AP. But what made the video interesting is that he knew all the rules and gaming laws from state to state. As many casinos made up there own rules along the way just to screw with him but at the end, making the casinos look like idiots. A must watch in my opinion.


1st paragraph is spot on. Nice folks at El Dorado. But only 6.5 single deck since takeover. Silver Lagacy. Rarely got pen worth the walk from the parking garage. Some have had a hard time at the Nugget. I should check it out again. 2 places in Tahoe. Im banned so it's been awhile.

2nd paragraph. You dont mean Wendover? 😅😅 My gypsy days are behind me. For me, it's Vegas or bust as they say.
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lilredrooster
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July 20th, 2021 at 2:01:11 PM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

Haven't the casinos put the brakes on those who think they can just arrive in Vegas, plant themselves and pull down $200,000 or more per year card counting?




I don't think he makes $200K - maybe half that

but KJ has stated elsewhere that he leaves after he shows his Max bet

I believe his strategy is to keep bouncing around to different casinos never staying at any one for a longish period of time

I also believe he has stated or implied that some casinos know he is an AP but tolerate him because they see him as not being greedy because of the way he plays
in other words - the fact that he leaves quickly right after betting big makes him acceptable to them

if I've misstated any of this I'm sure he'll correct me when he gets back - but I don't think any of it is misstated

he's been doing this for a lot of years - I'm not sure exactly how many - but I'm pretty sure it's more than 10



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billryan
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July 20th, 2021 at 2:24:57 PM permalink
He also has a regular route of freeplay from playing video poker that he has said is a major part of his income. That is something anyone with a bit of drive can do.
moses
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July 20th, 2021 at 2:25:43 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

I don't think he makes $200K - maybe half that

but KJ has stated elsewhere that he leaves after he shows his Max bet

I believe his strategy is to keep bouncing around to different casinos never staying at any one for a longish period of time

I also believe he has stated or implied that some casinos know he is an AP but tolerate him because they see him as not being greedy because of the way he plays
in other words - the fact that he leaves quickly right after betting big makes him acceptable to them
.



I qouted $200k based on playing $50 min. and doubling the spread amounts. I think your friend plays $25 min.

To use Mr. Ryan's theme. I was crucified for years on forums at the notion of making a modest amount and then leaving. This goes hand in hand with maintaining a solid relationship and casino tolerance.

I mean somebody should win every now and then or the game isnt worth playing.

What I dont understand is your friends crusade to get more newbies to play by constantly speaking to his success. Yes, maybe it's only a few. But it only takes one to screw it all up.

Plus now the newbie is sitting in your seat. When did winning stop being enough?
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Vegasrider
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July 20th, 2021 at 3:19:49 PM permalink
Eldorado, Silver Legacy are the same, they are under the Caesars umbrella but you already know that. Although I live across the street from the Nugget and I'm practically there everyday, I rarely play BJ. But I do see them have $25 and $50 tables on the weekends. I do see some very high rollers come in a few times a year and they reserve a private BJ table for them and they are allowed to have special rules in place that is not available to anyone else.
moses
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July 20th, 2021 at 5:24:50 PM permalink
My average is $1.50 per hand on a $25 table. I look at quality far before quantity. The goal is to find quality games. Easier said than done since Covid.

I would say about 6 sessions over 4 casinos per day is about all the work I want to do. Sometimes you leave and revisit later. Never more than 3 sessions in one casino shift per day.

The goal is to get in 300 quality hands per day. A range of 1000 to 1500 per week. 16 decks is about 100 hands. Somedays 4 sessions is enough to feed the bulldog. Other days 12 sessions is break even. The equation wins 60% of sessions overall. This leaves 40% loss and ties.

A typical week is 20 sessions is 12-8. But 11-7-2: 8-7-5: 9-8-3; 13-5-6 were the weeks leading up to Covid. Large Bet plays were 224.5 wins 146 loss. Ties are treated as a no at bat.

The stories say Vegas is Big time. Really, a $50 min changes the dynanics?
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July 20th, 2021 at 6:46:20 PM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

The problem is once ONE casino figures it out…they all have.

I’m also of the mindset that any attempt at structuring, not winning too much, trying to stay under the radar, etc….the casinos have seen every and any tactic. The cat always catches the mouse…eventually.



It doesn't matter how much you win, it is how much you cash out that triggers the CTR and potential structuring. Just don't cash in the chips everytime you win. Hld chips to use the next time so you don't have to keep buying in for large amounts. Cash the chips out slowly over a long period of time. If you cash out a couple thousand dollars a day you will be fine.
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July 20th, 2021 at 6:51:18 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

It doesn't matter how much you win, it is how much you cash out that triggers the CTR and potential structuring. Just don't cash in the chips everytime you win. Hld chips to use the next time so you don't have to keep buying in for large amounts. Cash the chips out slowly over a long period of time. If you cash out a couple thousand dollars a day you will be fine.



That actually would be structuring!
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