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Quote: WizardWelcome back ZK. Please try to behave yourself.
This site is a joke.
Let me get this straight...
WatchMeWin gets a two month ban for simply saying, "Naive," yet ZQ, who just returned from a one month suspension, is allowed to call someone a drone and does not get another suspension for personal insult despite being warned not once but twice by moderator OnceDear.
Then you have Kentry continuously breaking the forum rule against thumbtacking by posting the ridiculously inane lottery predictions and s/he doesn't get a suspension (or dare I say, a well deserved nuke, as should have been done weeks/months/years ago!).
Like I said, a joke of a forum.
Thanks for the feedback. Negative feedback is the most useful. If you wish to discuss moderation policy, we have a thread for that.Quote: FTBThis site is a joke.
Let me get this straight...
WatchMeWin gets a two month ban for simply saying, "Naive," yet ZQ, who just returned from a one month suspension, is allowed to call someone a drone and does not get another suspension for personal insult despite being warned not once but twice by moderator OnceDear.
Then you have Kentry continuously breaking the forum rule against thumbtacking by posting the ridiculously inane lottery predictions and s/he doesn't get a suspension (or dare I say, a well deserved nuke, as should have been done weeks/months/years ago!).
Like I said, a joke of a forum.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/25231-discussion-ii-about-the-suspension-list/228/#post691096
Quote: FTBThis site is a joke.
Let me get this straight...
WatchMeWin gets a two month ban for simply saying, "Naive," yet ZQ, who just returned from a one month suspension, is allowed to call someone a drone and does not get another suspension for personal insult despite being warned not once but twice by moderator OnceDear.
Then you have Kentry continuously breaking the forum rule against thumbtacking by posting the ridiculously inane lottery predictions and s/he doesn't get a suspension (or dare I say, a well deserved nuke, as should have been done weeks/months/years ago!).
Like I said, a joke of a forum.
ZKs posts are hilariously far more enjoyable than WMWs. We don't take ourselves too seriously around hur. Any forum that does is really lame.
#itsneverthatserious
Quote: FTBThis site is a joke.
Let me get this straight...
WatchMeWin gets a two month ban for simply saying, "Naive," yet ZQ, who just returned from a one month suspension, is allowed to call someone a drone and does not get another suspension for personal insult despite being warned not once but twice by moderator OnceDear.
Then you have Kentry continuously breaking the forum rule against thumbtacking by posting the ridiculously inane lottery predictions and s/he doesn't get a suspension (or dare I say, a well deserved nuke, as should have been done weeks/months/years ago!).
Like I said, a joke of a forum.
It's a great forum. It's is the moderation that is sad.
Agree on the first part.Quote: billryanIt's a great forum. It's is the moderation that is sad.
Disagree on the 2nd part.
Quote: JohnnyQAgree on the first part.
Disagree on the 2nd part.
You are half correct.
Surpised there’s not an IP match to a current or former member here.Quote: FTBThis site is a joke.
Let me get this straight...
WatchMeWin gets a two month ban for simply saying, "Naive," yet ZQ, who just returned from a one month suspension, is allowed to call someone a drone and does not get another suspension for personal insult despite being warned not once but twice by moderator OnceDear.
Then you have Kentry continuously breaking the forum rule against thumbtacking by posting the ridiculously inane lottery predictions and s/he doesn't get a suspension (or dare I say, a well deserved nuke, as should have been done weeks/months/years ago!).
Like I said, a joke of a forum.
Quote: unJonSurpised there’s not an IP match to a current or former member here.
It is a shame the poster didn't have the courage to post under his real id. If I were a mod, I'd reject claims made by obvious shills out of hand.
Quote: billryanYou are half correct.
or you're half wrong.
Quote: MaxPenor you're half wrong.
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
The judge in the Thomas Robertson case clearly says "NRS 207.200 VIOLATES NRS 1.030" when applied to the defendant, which is the statute for the application of the common law in the State of Nevada as ill get into below. Did you read that right? The judge said the trespassing statute that the Stratosphere and SLS drone security guards and managers love to recite to you "VIOLATES", the common law also known as NRS 1.030. And who is the defendant? Keep reading. The judge then goes on to say that "members of the public have a RIGHT to enjoy a place of public amusement and "ABSENT any disruptive or disorderly conduct", that casinos would be violating the common law if they decided to trespass them. WOW. Did you read that? Maybe you should read it again. "ABSENT ANY DISRUPTIVE OR DISORDERLY CONDUCT", they cannot be trespassed from a casino.
The judge then proceeds to cite the ending part of 463.0129, which, remember, is the part of the statute that says casinos and misinformed people like Zcore claim they have the right to trespass you for any reason, and I quote, "the saving language at NRS 463.0129.3(a) "Does NOT apply ABSENT disruptive or disorderly conduct".
WOW. Not only did the judge say the trespassing statute of NRS 207.200 was in violation of the common law of the State of Nevada when there is NO DISRUPTIVE or DiSORDERLY CONDUCT done in a casino, but he then also goes and clears up the vague 'exception' part of the NRS 463.0129 statute saying it DOES NOT APPLY as well.
So Zcore, go ahead and every other misinformed (insert derogatory term here) go ahead and please tell me again how im misunderstanding the laws? LOL. Must suck that your casino superiority complex agenda to confuse everyone about their rights has burnt to a crisp thanks to me once again. Go ahead and tell me again that a public place is only referred to as a police station or park LOL. I guess a police station is considered a 'public amusement'. Or maybr you can go educate yourself by reading the full court case as I did.
Oh WAIT, theres more. Stick with me for a second. Lets put two and two together. NRS 207.200 (Trespass statute) violates the common law ABSENT disruptive or disorderly conduct. Check. Casino security reads you trespass act anyway and tells you not to return. Check. Rights are now violated. Check. Title 18 Section 241 conspiracy against rights = two or more people conspiring against your rights. Check. Title 18 = Major felony. Check. Security guards and casino managers all go to prison. Check.
Glad I can clear up all the confusion kids. Let me know if you guys need anything else. For more specific and detailed information relating to this topic, please refer to this thread.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/blackjack/31733-official-legality-of-casino-trespassing/
Quote: ZenKinGHey Zcore and everyone else saying im wrong and misunderstanding the law. Straight from the judges mouth.
The judge in the Thomas Robertson case clearly says "NRS 207.200 VIOLATES NRS 1.030" when applied to the defendant, which is the statute for the application of the common law in the State of Nevada as ill get into below. Did you read that right? The judge said the trespassing statute that the Stratosphere and SLS drone security guards and managers love to recite to you "VIOLATES", the common law also known as NRS 1.030. And who is the defendant? Keep reading. The judge then goes on to say that "members of the public have a RIGHT to enjoy a place of public amusement and "ABSENT any disruptive or disorderly conduct", that casinos would be violating the common law if they decided to trespass them. WOW. Did you read that? Maybe you should read it again. "ABSENT ANY DISRUPTIVE OR DISORDERLY CONDUCT", they cannot be trespassed from a casino.
The judge then proceeds to cite the ending part of 463.0129, which, remember, is the part of the statute that says casinos and misinformed people like Zcore claim they have the right to trespass you for any reason, and I quote, "the saving language at NRS 463.0129.3(a) "Does NOT apply ABSENT disruptive or disorderly conduct".
WOW. Not only did the judge say the trespassing statute of NRS 207.200 was in violation of the common law of the State of Nevada when there is NO DISRUPTIVE or DiSORDERLY CONDUCT done in a casino, but he then also goes and clears up the vague 'exception' part of the NRS 463.0129 statute saying it DOES NOT APPLY as well.
So Zcore, go ahead and every other misinformed (insert derogatory term here) go ahead and please tell me again how im misunderstanding the laws? LOL. Must suck that your casino superiority complex agenda to confuse everyone about their rights has burnt to a crisp thanks to me once again. Go ahead and tell me again that a public place is only referred to as a police station or park LOL. I guess a police station is considered a 'public amusement'. Or maybr you can go educate yourself by reading the full court case as I did.
Oh WAIT, theres more. Stick with me for a second. Lets put two and two together. NRS 207.200 (Trespass statute) violates the common law ABSENT disruptive or disorderly conduct. Check. Casino security reads you trespass act anyway and tells you not to return. Check. Rights are now violated. Check. Title 18 Section 241 conspiracy against rights = two or more people conspiring against your rights. Check. Title 18 = Major felony. Check. Security guards and casino managers all go to prison. Check.
Glad I can clear up all the confusion kids. Let me know if you guys need anything else. For more specific and detailed information relating to this topic, please refer to this thread.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/blackjack/31733-official-legality-of-casino-trespassing/
You'll lose.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13You'll lose.
ZCore13
Just so everyone knows, when Zcore loses an argument or anyone in a higher authority position such as the government, who tries to misconstrue information for their own personal gain, they resort to either personal attacks, off topic moral standards, or simply saying it wont work or youll lose, completely ignoring all the facts and changing the subject. When this happens, you realize there was an agenda all along if they cant admit they were wrong.
Casinos are committing serious felonies every day trespassing counters. Its time someone brings the truth to light. Ive laid out the roadmap of how to do it. It will probably end up being me that has to take them to court for this since everyone else is comfortable with their life and nothing is 'worth it' for anyone anymore. Sad state of affairs this society.
Quote: ZenKinGJust so everyone knows, when Zcore loses an argument or anyone in a higher authority position such as the government, who tries to misconstrue information for their own personal gain, they resort to either personal attacks, off topic moral standards, or simply saying it wont work or youll lose, completely ignoring all the facts and changing the subject. When this happens, you realize there was an agenda all along if they cant admit they were wrong.
Casinos are committing serious felonies every day trespassing counters. Its time someone brings the truth to light. Ive laid out the roadmap of how to do it. It will probably end up being me that has to take them to court for this since everyone else is comfortable with their life and nothing is 'worth it' for anyone anymore. Sad state of affairs this society.
Yes, society would be much better off if more people were willing to go to jail in search of a payoff. All those stupid fathers, living their dronelike existence taking care of their families. Society would be much better off without them and with a few more kings. You can thank him later.
Quote: ZenKinGJust so everyone knows, when Zcore loses an argument or anyone in a higher authority position such as the government, who tries to misconstrue information for their own personal gain, they resort to either personal attacks, off topic moral standards, or simply saying it wont work or youll lose, completely ignoring all the facts and changing the subject. When this happens, you realize there was an agenda all along if they cant admit they were wrong.
Casinos are committing serious felonies every day trespassing counters. Its time someone brings the truth to light. Ive laid out the roadmap of how to do it. It will probably end up being me that has to take them to court for this since everyone else is comfortable with their life and nothing is 'worth it' for anyone anymore. Sad state of affairs this society.
Don't you worry that you'll turn Vegas into Atlantic City? People won't be barred from casinos but they'll have to play in crappier conditions? That's what happened with Ken Uston, right?
Quote: billryanYes, society would be much better off if more people were willing to go to jail in search of a payoff. All those stupid fathers, living their dronelike existence taking care of their families. Society would be much better off without them and with a few more kings. You can thank him later.
Find at any point where I mentioned I was doing any of this to get a 'payoff', then get back to me. This is simply about principa and what's right and wrong, but of course people constantly put words in my mouth to try and argue with me.
Quote: MintyDon't you worry that you'll turn Vegas into Atlantic City? People won't be barred from casinos but they'll have to play in crappier conditions? That's what happened with Ken Uston, right?
It will only happen if vegas management is as braindead and paranoid about counters as Atlantic City was. How did that turn out for AC? Became a ghost town as competing jurisdictions offered better games and players took their business elsewhere. I also can care less about blackjack in this city if it went to hell.
Quote: ZenKinGIt will only happen if vegas management is as braindead and paranoid about counters as Atlantic City was. How did that turn out for AC? Became a ghost town as competing jurisdictions offered better games and players took their business elsewhere. I also can care less about blackjack in this city if it went to hell.
Talk about a total lack of understanding and misrepresentation of facts.
AC struggling had next to nothing to do with BJ rules and changes.
PA and other states around them opening casinos killed the customer base they almost exclusively had other than MS and NV. As competition opened in almost every state around them, they had too many casinos for the volume of customers.
And now they have seemed to have found a rebirth with the Opening of Hard Rock and Ocean. Probably still need to reduce 1 or 2 more but feel free to see if MGM feels Borgata is a Ghost Town.
And no, your little fight and threats will not change anything, but if it makes you feel better, you go right ahead. After all, isn’t that what your generation is all about? Being made to feel good for anything you do. I’ll pitch in for your participation trophy. You deserve it at a minimum.
Quote: ZenKinGJust so everyone knows, when Zcore loses an argument or anyone in a higher authority position such as the government, who tries to misconstrue information for their own personal gain, they resort to either personal attacks, off topic moral standards, or simply saying it wont work or youll lose, completely ignoring all the facts and changing the subject. When this happens, you realize there was an agenda all along if they cant admit they were wrong.
Casinos are committing serious felonies every day trespassing counters. Its time someone brings the truth to light. Ive laid out the roadmap of how to do it. It will probably end up being me that has to take them to court for this since everyone else is comfortable with their life and nothing is 'worth it' for anyone anymore. Sad state of affairs this society.
I'll visit you when you are in jail. As a matter of fact, I'll even bail you out so you can save your tiny bankroll for all the legal expenses.
When you get out I'll spend some time with you at your palace teaching you about the Government branches and other life lessons. I'll drive though. Your car doesn't sound very safe.
PM me beforehand so I can take a little paid time off from work. I've got over 200 hours.
ZCore13
Quote: BozTalk about a total lack of understanding and misrepresentation of facts.
AC struggling had next to nothing to do with BJ rules and changes.
PA and other states around them opening casinos killed the customer base they almost exclusively had other than MS and NV. As competition opened in almost every state around them, they had too many casinos for the volume of customers.
And now they have seemed to have found a rebirth with the Opening of Hard Rock and Ocean. Probably still need to reduce 1 or 2 more but feel free to see if MGM feels Borgata is a Ghost Town.
And no, your little fight and threats will not change anything, but if it makes you feel better, you go right ahead. After all, isn’t that what your generation is all about? Being made to feel good for anything you do. I’ll pitch in for your participation trophy. You deserve it at a minimum.
First off, way to ignore the part of me stating exactly what you said about competing competition in nearby states. You would also be surprised at how much the BJ games deteriorating added to the fire of people not wanting to go to AC anymore since it is the most popular table game in the world after all and word of mouth spreads even if the average player isnt aware that it deteriorated, but once they go there and lose quicker than is usual they start listening to the word of mouth telling them theres better games elsewhere.
Ive also been on the record that supports AC for the future saying that it would be a smart time to buy real estate in the area before the Hard Rock opened up. I smell a rebirth as well but it might take 5 or maybe 10 years until its back.
Quote: Zcore13I'll visit you when you are in jail. As a matter of fact, I'll even bail you out so you can save your tiny bankroll for all the legal expenses.
When you get out I'll spend some time with you at your palace teaching you about the Government branches and other life lessons. I'll drive though. Your car doesn't sound very safe.
PM me beforehand so I can take a little paid time off from work. I've got over 200 hours.
ZCore13
Ahh the good old 'Youre going to jail' fear mongering statement that is constamtly perpetrated by higher level figures including the government when their agenda fails to convince people.
Quote: ZenKinGAhh the good old 'Youre going to jail' fear mongering statement that is constamtly perpetrated by higher level figures including the government when their agenda fails to convince people.
I thought you wanted to go to jail?
Fight the power.
Nevertheless, I admire those who fight on principle against long odds, even when I don't necessarily agree with their cause. ZK, would you be interested in submitting a formal article, summarizing your position on this matter?
Per the Slade case:
The only unlawful bases to exclude would be based on consideration of a patron's "race, color, creed, national origin, or sex."
"Dr. Slade failed to demonstrate that his exclusion was for an unlawful reason."
"Dr. Slade does not argue on appeal, nor did he litigate at district court, that he was excluded from Caesars' properties for an unlawful reason."
My take: in Nevada, they can toss you for counting cards, end of story.
Quote: billryanYou want him to lay out his secret plan to make the word safe for cardcounters? They got to you, didn't they?
Let's lower the temperature and try to be courteous.
Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oArDFU_IESQ
Aw c'mon Wizard. I might often disagree with BillRyan, but I did see good humour in his post. The 'They got to you' certainly made me chuckle.Quote: WizardLet's lower the temperature and try to be courteous.
Kudos to all for keeping this interesting topic courteous.
Quote: ZenKinGYou dont know who youre messing with. I suggest you tell your droned out immoral and ignorant security guards who blindly follow orders for a paycheck that theyre committing a major federal offense when they read me the trespass statute. Title 18 Section 241. Keep pissing me off and watch what happens. All of you will learn ignorance of the law is no excuse. If youre purposely bluffing, i just hope you realize even bluffing is considered a violation of my rights because as soon as you read me NRS 207.200 you have just committed a federal offense saying I cannot return to a public space after doing nothing disorderly or disruptive. A card counter cannot go to prison for simply using his brain playing blackjack and doing nothing illegal as that would be completely unconstitutional so it will be thrown out in court. On a private level, your security guards will be sued to oblivion under Title 18 Section 241.
You literally have these droned out security guards who are committing a major federal offense escorting you out the door and telling you that you cannot return or you will be arrested? I mean really? Is this russia or china? I dont think so. They dont know any better cause their IQ is about the same as a monkey and thinking they have the power to do that, but what really amazes me is how they still act like smart asses when I try to educate them theyre committing a felony. I swear on my grave, these casinos and security guards will learn that ignorance is no excuse. Youre playing with fire. Youll never meet someone like me in this city again.
Im willing to get illegally arrested and illegally railroaded by the judge because after i get out of prison i will go back to the same casinos again and for a repeat offender, the sentence will now go over 6 months and probably to a year. This is where theyre screwed. Ill now be able to get a jury trial since it wont be considered a 'petty offense' and wont be able to get railroaded by a corrupt judge. This is where Vegas will change forever regarding blackjack. Say hello to the new Atlantic City everyone. Coming soon to a store near you.
Zen,
I sense more than a bit of mania on your end.
Quote: OnceDearAw c'mon Wizard. I might often disagree with BillRyan, but I did see good humour in his post. The 'They got to you' certainly made me chuckle.
Like most mildly autistic people, I have difficulty picking up on sarcasm.
Well... I live and learn. No criticism or offence meant to anyone.Quote: WizardLike most mildly autistic people, I have difficulty picking up on sarcasm.
Quote: MrVThe current state of Nevada law on the issue of right to exclude is that casinos can exclude patrons for any reason so long as the reason is not unlawful.
Per the Slade case:
The only unlawful bases to exclude would be based on consideration of a patron's "race, color, creed, national origin, or sex."
"Dr. Slade failed to demonstrate that his exclusion was for an unlawful reason."
"Dr. Slade does not argue on appeal, nor did he litigate at district court, that he was excluded from Caesars' properties for an unlawful reason."
My take: in Nevada, they can toss you for counting cards, end of story.
I suggest you go back and read my statements regarding the slade case in my trespass thread brcause I made sure to touch up on it. Plain and simple, the slad case changed NOTHING other than to confuse people to think it changed anything and gave rights to.casinos to exclude at will. Long story short, slade did not seek discovery on why he was thrown out. Had he done so, this wouldve never reached the supreme court, but the casinos used thid opportunity to create a vague and confusing ability of power to exclude at will.
So much for you being a lawyer. I suggest you read between the lines of what actually went down during the Slade case. You actually made my point with the quotes you pulled from the Slade case. This was on slade for not seeking discovery. The end ruling had nothing to do with a casino to be able to exclude at will. Thats exactly why the statutes are written the way they are AND exactly why Vegas went to 6:5 as soon as the Slade ruling came into effect.
Quote: WizardLet's lower the temperature and try to be courteous.
Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oArDFU_IESQ
It's all good fun until someone loses an eye.
Calling the police to trespass someone is definitely in my top 5 favorite things I get to do at work.
Quote: cmlotitoHere in Virginia when I want to trespass someone from the store i work at I first must tell them to leave or I will call the police. Once I say that the police have told me I have the right to call the the police and have the person trespassed and barred from my store for 3 years. On the form I have to fill out I have used the reason "suspected shoplifter" and that is good enough for the police to bar them. Also, I have used the reason "being belligerent to employees" and that works equally well. Most people don't stick around for the police to show up probably because if they did they may have other legal issues come to light.
Calling the police to trespass someone is definitely in my top 5 favorite things I get to do at work.
Can you please clarify what you mean? Do you mean you call the police only if they refuse to leave?
Quote: ZenKinGCan you please clarify what you mean? Do you mean you call the police only if they refuse to leave?
Correct. The police will not come unless they confirm with me that I have told the person in question to leave and are refusing to do so. That is what will trigger a police response. Refusing to leave once told to do so by the person in charge of the business.
Card counting is not an unlawful reason, thus counters have been excluded for years and the law of Nevada has supported and still supports that action.
I don't look at the ruling as breaking new ground, although of course it is now legal precedent.
You're relatively young and arguably not inured yet to the ways of the world: tilt at that windmill, Don Quixote: I hope you win.
Quote: MrVSo far as I can tell, the court merely confirmed, albeit for the first time via Supreme Court ruling, that the "common law" and Nevada statutes were being interpreted and enforced correctly, and that the public can be excluded for any reason so long as the reason is not unlawful.
Card counting is not an unlawful reason, thus counters have been excluded for years and the law of Nevada has supported and still supports that action.
I don't look at the ruling as breaking new ground, although of course it is now legal precedent.
You're relatively young and arguably not inured yet to the ways of the world: tilt at that windmill, Don Quixote: I hope you win.
If you are truly being sincere amd believe the Slade decision chamged anything, then you are reading the Slade court case with such bias that it blinds you and are probably suffering from cognitive dissonance because even when the Slade court TELLS you what actually happened and that Slade never sought discovery in district court and so the supreme court couldnt make a decision regarding it, you still develop an instinctual bias and asusmption that they ruled on the exact topic they said they would not rule on. The judge didnt make things easy to understand either by constantly contradicting himself and being vague. You must look deeper than what meets the eye when he says 'unless otherwise unlawful'. The Thomas Robertson case explained what 'unlawful meant' and that included excluding people for non disorderly and non disruptive charges such as card counting. The judge in the Slade case basically just confused everyone by leaving the word 'unlawful' in there for casinos to have more leverage in what was truly meant in the deciding case while also staying constitutional.
The Slade court case according to you gave the casinos the right to exclude anyone at will as long as it was non-discriminatory, right? So go ahead and tell me why vegas loaded up with 6-5 tables right after the Slade decision? Things that make you go hmmm...
Quote: cmlotitoCorrect. The police will not come unless they confirm with me that I have told the person in question to leave and are refusing to do so. That is what will trigger a police response. Refusing to leave once told to do so by the person in charge of the business.
And if that person leaves, but comes back another time, you must still give him the opportunity to leave once again, correct? I believe its the same in vegas and the casinos know this. As i said its a major bluff going on in vegas as well as the whole country.
I also need to find out if a casino would consider someone being disorderly or disruptive if they called gaming about shady procedures in place or possible cadino cheating going on? Would you consider that 'disruptive or disorderly' cmlotito? Because Ive noticed the only times ive been read the trespass act has been when I called gaming on a previous trip.
Quote: ZenKinGSo go ahead and tell me why vegas loaded up with 6-5 tables right after the Slade decision? Things that make you go hmmm...
They added 6-5 blackjack because they make more money and people don't have a clue. Same reason most have reduced their video poker machine count. Same reason most places are cracking down on free drinks. Same reason almost every place charges a resort fee. Same reason many places now charge for parking. Money. Or do you think all of those things are because of Slade too??
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13They added 6-5 blackjack because they make more money and people don't have a clue. Same reason most have reduced their video poker machine count. Same reason most places are cracking down on free drinks. Same reason almost every place charges a resort fee. Same reason many places now charge for parking. Money. Or do you think all of those things are because of Slade too??
ZCore13
Too coincidental because if you understand what the Slade ruling actually did and you combine the fact that blackjack has never been changed that drastically, for it to all coincide at the same time is quite symbolic whereas other games have constantly been changed up and down for many decades.
Quote: ZenKinGAnd if that person leaves, but comes back another time, you must still give him the opportunity to leave once again, correct? I believe its the same in vegas and the casinos know this. As i said its a major bluff going on in vegas as well as the whole country.
I also need to find out if a casino would consider someone being disorderly or disruptive if they called gaming about shady procedures in place or possible cadino cheating going on? Would you consider that 'disruptive or disorderly' cmlotito? Because Ive noticed the only times ive been read the trespass act has been when I called gaming on a previous trip.
I am always suppose to tell them to "leave now or I will call the police and you will be arrested for tresspassing."
If they do come back I will just get on my cell phone in front of them and that is good enough to get their feet moving towards the door. Depending on my mood I might say something like "If j see you again in my store I will just call the police and you will be arrested. You won't even know I have seen you. But the police will still show up and you will be arrested."
I'm pretty good at intimidating people due to many years of listening to my father yell.
Thanks Dad.
Quote: cmlotitoI am always suppose to tell them to "leave now or I will call the police and you will be arrested for tresspassing."
If they do come back I will just get on my cell phone in front of them and that is good enough to get their feet moving towards the door. Depending on my mood I might say something like "If j see you again in my store I will just call the police and you will be arrested. You won't even know I have seen you. But the police will still show up and you will be arrested."
I'm pretty good at intimidating people due to many years of listening to my father yell.
Thanks Dad.
So thank you for confirming everything I have said and not masquerading the truth. All an intimidation tactic and casinos must tell you to leave each time just like I said it was. I never argued about not leaving, just about the ability to return each and every time and that a casino cannot restrict you from entering the premises the next time.
Props to you. Thank you very much.
Quote: ZenKinGSo thank you for confirming everything I have said and not masquerading the truth. All an intimidation tactic and casinos must tell you to leave each time just like I said it was. I never argued about not leaving, just about the ability to return each and every time and that a casino cannot restrict you from entering the premises the next time.
Props to you. Thank you very much.
I was told this by police in Virginia. Maybe Nevada is different. I don't know.
Quote: cmlotitoI was told this by police in Virginia. Maybe Nevada is different. I don't know.
No it's not because it's a federal issue and a fundamental right of all citizens in this country to be able to access a public place. YES, CASINOS ARE CONSIDERED PUBLIC PLACES. They're either 'public amusements', or 'gaming establishments', or whatever in between, all public in nature when one seeks out the definition.
