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January 4th, 2019 at 5:48:52 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Typical droned out response. White collar crimes are NOT sent to the rape prisons that murderers and other major crimes are sent to. Just more media misinformation to keep all the sheep in check.

Not a white collar crime imo.
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January 4th, 2019 at 5:59:43 PM permalink
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Not a white collar crime imo.



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January 4th, 2019 at 6:22:27 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

You dont know who youre messing with. I suggest you tell your droned out immoral and ignorant security guards who blindly follow orders for a paycheck that theyre committing a major federal offense when they read me the trespass statute. Title 18 Section 241. Keep pissing me off and watch what happens. All of you will learn ignorance of the law is no excuse. If youre purposely bluffing, i just hope you realize even bluffing is considered a violation of my rights because as soon as you read me NRS 207.200 you have just committed a federal offense saying I cannot return to a public space after doing nothing disorderly or disruptive. A card counter cannot go to prison for simply using his brain playing blackjack and doing nothing illegal as that would be completely unconstitutional so it will be thrown out in court. On a private level, your security guards will be sued to oblivion under Title 18 Section 241.

You literally have these droned out security guards who are committing a major federal offense escorting you out the door and telling you that you cannot return or you will be arrested? I mean really? Is this russia or china? I dont think so. They dont know any better cause their IQ is about the same as a monkey and thinking they have the power to do that, but what really amazes me is how they still act like smart asses when I try to educate them theyre committing a felony. I swear on my grave, these casinos and security guards will learn that ignorance is no excuse. Youre playing with fire. Youll never meet someone like me in this city again.

Im willing to get illegally arrested and illegally railroaded by the judge because after i get out of prison i will go back to the same casinos again and for a repeat offender, the sentence will now go over 6 months and probably to a year. This is where theyre screwed. Ill now be able to get a jury trial since it wont be considered a 'petty offense' and wont be able to get railroaded by a corrupt judge. This is where Vegas will change forever regarding blackjack. Say hello to the new Atlantic City everyone. Coming soon to a store near you.



Lol. I welcome your comedy back to the site. By any chance are you a Sovereign Citizen too??


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January 4th, 2019 at 7:18:45 PM permalink
ZenKing,

A casino has the right to serve or not serve patrons as long as it is not for a protected reason (Age, Sex, etc.)

If you are backed off from playing a particular game and you go quietly, you will not be trespassed. If you become belligerent and or security thinks you are disrupting other guests, you will be banned from the property and read the trespass warning.

You will not be arrested for card counting. There is a major difference between being arrested for card counting and arrested for violation of a known trespass.

This is based on Nevada law, but I have worked in many other jurisdictions, and with the exception of New Jersey, I believe the laws are similar.

As I said in another thread, don't burn a property (or multiple properties in the case of the larger corporations) from your list. Play it cool.
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January 4th, 2019 at 7:55:24 PM permalink
Quote: FCBLComish

ZenKing,

A casino has the right to serve or not serve patrons as long as it is not for a protected reason (Age, Sex, etc.)

If you are backed off from playing a particular game and you go quietly, you will not be trespassed. If you become belligerent and or security thinks you are disrupting other guests, you will be banned from the property and read the trespass warning.

You will not be arrested for card counting. There is a major difference between being arrested for card counting and arrested for violation of a known trespass.

This is based on Nevada law, but I have worked in many other jurisdictions, and with the exception of New Jersey, I believe the laws are similar.

As I said in another thread, don't burn a property (or multiple properties in the case of the larger corporations) from your list. Play it cool.



Oh man ignorance is plentiful these days. Let me go and educate you and maybe you can spread the news to all the idiots you work for in gaming or casino management.

First off, sure a casino has a right to refuse service or what we call a back off, but they do not have the right to RESTRICT you from entering the premises of a public space. Secondly, I never said the arrest would be because of card counting. The arrest is based off of a criminal trespass, but for a criminal trespass to be legal in a public place such as a gaming establishment licensed by the government, it can ONLY OCCUR if their is disorderly midsconduct or destroying property, etc which had beem confirmed numerous times through court cases in Nevada as well as a careful understanding of the statutes in place. This all will be discovered in court when I seek discovery of why the casino trespassed me and when the casino will have no proof of any misconduct, the case will be thrown out for being unconstitutional by not letting me access a public space, which is a basic and fundamental right im this country.

If you want explicit details regarding the statutes and court cases, I suggest you go read my thread on the legality of casino trespassing.

Next.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
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January 4th, 2019 at 7:56:44 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Secondly, the arrest is based off a criminal trespass, but a legal criminal trespass in a public place such as a gaming establishment licensed by the government can ONLY OCCUR if their is disorderly midsconduct



We both agree. Disorderly conduct is exactly what will get you trespassed. The AP will only get you backed off.
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January 4th, 2019 at 8:00:27 PM permalink
Quote: FCBLComish

We both agree. Disorderly conduct is exactly what will get you trespassed. The AP will only get you backed off.



So thanks for admitting all criminal trespasses in vegas for a non criminal and non disorderly act such as card counting are all a bluff, not that I needed your admissio of course. I also suggest you inform your superiors that theyre playing with fire and everytime they read me that trespass act, theyre committing a felony. Unfortunately i forgot to record it on my phone while being escorted out the door. Maybe next time

Only a matter of time until i finally crack and take all of this to court. No, I wont need an attorney either.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
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January 4th, 2019 at 8:03:49 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

So thanks for admitting all criminal trespasses in vegas for card counting are a bluff, not that I needed your admission. I also suggest you inform your superiors that theyre playinf with fire and everytime they read you that trespass act, theyre committing a felony. Only a matter of time until i finally crack and take this to court. Unfortunately i forgot to record it on my phone while being escorted out the door. Maybe next time



I guess we are all shaking in our boots now.

You do know the difference between being read the trespass act and then actually being arrested for criminal trespass, correct? The criminal part is coming back after you have been told you are no longer welcome at a property (or property group).
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January 4th, 2019 at 8:10:13 PM permalink
Quote: FCBLComish

I guess we are all shaking in our boots now.

You do know the difference between being read the trespass act and then actually being arrested for criminal trespass, correct? The criminal part is coming back after you have been told you are no longer welcome at a property (or property group).



You just contradicted yourself between posts, but nice try at double talk to masquerade the truth which is so common of higher authority figures such as the government.

First off being read the trespass act and being told im no longer allowed on a property or unable to come back, violates my rights and violates Title 18 Section 241, so that security guard and whoever told him to go and trespass me just committed a felony.

Secondly, you cannot be arrested regardless if you come back because a legal trespass never even happened in the first place since nothing criminal or disorderly misconduct was done prior to the trespass warning. This alsp would violate the same statute under Title 18.

Next.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
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January 4th, 2019 at 8:11:39 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

You just contradicted yourself between posts.

First off being read the trespass act and being told im no longer allowed on a property or unable to come back violates my rights and violates Title 18 Section 241, so that security guard and whoever told him to go and trespass me just committed a felony.

Secondly, you cannot be arrested regardless if you come back because a legal trespass never even happened in the first place since nothing criminal or disorderly misconduct was done prior to the trespass warning.

Next.



If you are trespassed for disorderly conduct, we will retain the video. End of story.
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