60 Winning Hands in a Row
I think your assumption was fair: Not 60 Blackjacks in a row.Quote: WellbushSometimes I've found the wording a bit unclear. Like, winning 60 'blackjack hands' in-a-row Vs winning 60 'blackjacks' in-a-row. They're completely different, and I'm assuming it was NOT, winning 60 'blackjacks' in-a-row (by that I mean every hand was a 'blackjack' for the player, for approx 60 hands).
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Now THAT would be quite something.
Probability of 60 Blackjacks in a row! = (2 x (1 / 13) x (4 / 13))^60 = 3.25234750531e-80
or to put it another way...
1 in 30,700,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
But if you spend enough time in a casino, anything can happen.
Quote: OnceDearI think your assumption was fair: Not 60 Blackjacks in a row.Quote: WellbushSometimes I've found the wording a bit unclear. Like, winning 60 'blackjack hands' in-a-row Vs winning 60 'blackjacks' in-a-row. They're completely different, and I'm assuming it was NOT, winning 60 'blackjacks' in-a-row (by that I mean every hand was a 'blackjack' for the player, for approx 60 hands).
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Now THAT would be quite something.
Probability of 60 Blackjacks in a row! = (2 x (1 / 13) x (4 / 13))^60 = 3.25234750531e-80
or to put it another way...
1 in 30,700,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
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It’s lower. It’s zero. They aren’t going to shuffle the deck or shoe every hand if the aces are coming out. That’s a good count for the house. And there aren’t enough aces in the deck or shoe to get you through BJs all the way.
Quote: WellbushYes, that makes sense. There are not enough jacks and aces about, for approx 60 blackjacks in-a-row.
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I'm not a blackjack player but if in a single deck game or a double deck game the cards were reshuffled after every hand or two or three or four. Isnt there enough blackjack cards available for a continuous run of 21s?
not the '60 in-a-row' sort of bj run. Possibly 10 in-a-row, but even that would be pretty extreme.Quote: AlanMendelsonI'm not a blackjack player but if in a single deck game or a double deck game the cards were reshuffled after every hand or two or three or four. Isnt there enough blackjack cards available for a continuous run of 21s?
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We would need to know if a Continuous Shuffle Machine (CSM) was being used, and when the completed hand cards were put back into the machine. That would give us a better idea re the situation.
I'm not familiar with what goes on when CSMs are not deployed, but I find it hard to imagine that a casino would have their dealers reshuffle cards after just a few hands, if CSMs are not deployed.
On one double deck session many years ago I was losing, got frustrated, complained to the dealer (off handedly, this dealer knew me pretty well), and slammed table limit (5000 at the time), after the shuffle and left it out. I got four blackjacks in a row! at table limit.
"See how fast things can turn around?"
Now, that was cool. I dropped the bet after the fourth blackjack. I recall thinking that four aces in a row seemed like a good portion of the deck. I still won that fifth hand too, but not with a blackjack. I kept playing for some time, but that 30K in four hands definitely helped and got me back ahead for the session.
A pit boss once told me of a 5000 flat bettor at blackjack who got down to the last chip, and ended up emptying the rack. And then I've also seen a blackjack player who was up a pyramidal mountain of 5000 chips, gradually lose them all.
Speaking of pyramidal mountains of chips - if you've ever seen Dennis Rodman play, he used to play at the Hard Rock Vegas with Carmen Electra at his side, he always had a pyramidal mountain of chips (but, "just" purple 500s) in front of him at the blackjack table. And he always lost. Sad story just like Mike Tyson at the Golden Nugget - the casinos sometimes eat these sports stars alive by relieving them of much of their assets.
These days you still see major sports figures and celebrities at the casinos, but most of them seem to just pop in for a short session, play at not ridiculously high levels, and then leave. You do read about some who get in over their heads, but nowadays seem to be more the exception than the rule.
I Believe you. 1 in 199153 events happen all the time. Your judgement was perfect, slamming down max, if you knew they were coming.Quote: MDawgOn one double deck session many years ago I was losing, got frustrated, complained to the dealer (off handedly, this dealer knew me pretty well), and slammed table limit (5000 at the time), after the shuffle and left it out. I got four blackjacks in a row! at table limit.
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Just another day.
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I have no idea why people are so hung up about a recollection of a card game from almost 20 years ago.
I’ll help you understand. The vast majority of posters here do not believe that MDawg has consistently crushed the casinos playing the negative expectation game, baccarat. Nor do they believe his unrealistic claims of success on the tie bets. Plus a myriad of other claims. The fact that he could even make a claim of ‘some 60 hands in a row’ just adds evidence to the lack of credibility exhibited. Once confronted with the ludicrous nature of the claim, he then walked it back. I don’t know about you, but when I make a claim about my consecutive free throw streak (high 67), I am sure there were not ‘some’ misses in there. If I won 60 or so BJ hands with a loss sprinkled in here or there, I would NEVER have stated I won 60 in a row. I’d have said I had a real hot streak. But NEVER saying ‘in a row’ unless, well, there was no loss in the sample discussed.
Quote: SOOPOOI’ll help you understand. The vast majority of posters here do not believe that MDawg has consistently crushed the casinos playing the negative expectation game, baccarat.
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I understand what people are hung up about.
I do not understand why.
MDawg is held in high esteem here. Maybe partly because his own posts indicate that he is one of life's high rollers and big winners. Some folk look up to him. He has a fan club.Quote: SOOPOOI’ll help you understand. The vast majority of posters here do not believe that MDawg has consistently crushed the casinos playing the negative expectation game, baccarat. Nor do they believe his unrealistic claims of success on the tie bets. Plus a myriad of other claims. The fact that he could even make a claim of ‘some 60 hands in a row’ just adds evidence to the lack of credibility exhibited. Once confronted with the ludicrous nature of the claim, he then walked it back. I don’t know about you, but when I make a claim about my consecutive free throw streak (high 67), I am sure there were not ‘some’ misses in there. If I won 60 or so BJ hands with a loss sprinkled in here or there, I would NEVER have stated I won 60 in a row. I’d have said I had a real hot streak. But NEVER saying ‘in a row’ unless, well, there was no loss in the sample discussed.
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It's rather interesting when one who we all look up to outs himself as fallible or even outs himself to have told us an untruth, even a technical untruth, which he later reworks or retracts. It's even more interesting when the backpedal only happens under the intense interrogation of his peers (or followers, or whoever). I believe that such is the situation in this thread.
There is nothing wrong with quoting a somewhat flawed memory in an anecdote. But it does taint our perception of previous or subsequent anecdotes. We should not be too harsh on Mdawg. His anecdotes are entertaining. We should maybe look to ourselves for how much we take them literally.
Quote: DieterQuote: SOOPOOI’ll help you understand. The vast majority of posters here do not believe that MDawg has consistently crushed the casinos playing the negative expectation game, baccarat.
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I understand what people are hung up about.
I do not understand why.link to original post
You don’t understand why? This guy comes in and makes claims which outfit right defy even the highest odds. He makes counterintuitive claims and then doubles down on them. Post claims of having millions and talks in the third person. Brags to no end, where as most people would simply say my room at the hotel, he brags by constantly saying my suite. There is another lawyer in town. , actually two of them one is naqvi who has multiple billboards and the other I won’t name . Both have the same persona and want everyone to think they are the bear at everything they do. And always go out of their way to prove it
Quote: OnceDearMDawg is held in high esteem here. Maybe partly because his own posts indicate that he is one of life's high rollers and big winners. Some folk look up to him. He has a fan club.
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Thank you.
Quote: OnceDearIt's even more interesting when the backpedal only happens under the intense interrogation of his peers (or followers, or whoever). I believe that such is the situation in this thread.
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There is nothing wrong with quoting a somewhat flawed memory in an anecdote. But it does taint our perception of previous or subsequent anecdotes. We should not be too harsh on Mdawg. His anecdotes are entertaining. We should maybe look to ourselves for how much we take them literally.
Uhh, intense pressure? Wait a - hold on a minute - how does an internet forum constitute intense pressure? Intense pressure might be...when I was down a cool million on an intended few minute AMZN trade end of 2018, but I hung tough until a few months later when I sold at a profit. Actually, if I didn't view that as intense pressure why would I view anything coming from an internet forum as intense?
I clarified/retracted what I had originally posted because it was the right thing to do to make more clear what might have happened. But the fact remains that it was an amazing notable session that was talked about for years at that casino. I'd say that anyone who has experienced anything extraordinary would consider it as just another anecdote, but anyone who has not, might be skeptical or worse - get bent out of shape with a "why hasn't anything like that happened to me" attitude. Have you ever cut a deck and experienced four blackjacks in a row at table limit, or fourteen Banks in a row right out the gate at Bacc. betting progressively 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000, etc.? or taken 100 or 200 to ten or twenty thousand dollars in one shoe? If yes - then most of what I post would just seem routine. If not, well - then - I don't know. Certainly I expect that someone like Archie Karas would accept that massive run ups might be possible.
Everything I post is 100% factual. Here's another blackjack truth, I once took the change, about sixty bucks, from paying off the commission on a Bacc shoe and jammed it parlaying it all the way to five or six grand at a Blackjack table while waiting for the Bacc shuffle, and then returned to the Bacc table with five or six grand more than what I had minutes prior. My friends who were with me on that trip and witnessed it still talk about that one.
If you're somewhat fearless and willing to lay it out there, anything might happen. I'd say that much of the time people lose at casinos because they are afraid to lay it out there big when they should, and then later lay it out there big when they shouldn't. I try not to fall into that pit. Of course I have, like anyone else, but over all I think I've avoided that sort of thing pretty well.
I don't believe you.Quote: OnceDearMDawg is held in high esteem here.
Quote: MDawgI clarified/retracted what I had originally posted because it was the right thing to do to make more clear what might have happened.
There seems to be a group of members who can't reconcile that your recollections from some 20 years ago may not be as clear and detailed as your current reports.
As if, since you can't remember exactly what you ate some 20 years ago, then your report of what you ate today should be dismissed as dubious.
1. The first, make things happen.
2. The second, watch things happen.
3. The third, wonder, What the h happened?
Quote: MDawgThere are three kinds of people.
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1. The first, make things happen.
2. The second, watch things happen.
3. The third, wonder, What the h happened?
Interesting! I think I’m all 3! I enjoy all 3! Golf round today…. Made a bunch of long putts! (1)
Watched new guy stuff his wedges consistently! (2)
Saw him hit wedge over bunker with no green to work with to downhill green and it STOPPED a few feet from hole. (3).
All 3 on the golf course today.
Quote: MDawgUhh, intense pressure? Wait a - hold on a minute - how does an internet forum constitute intense pressure? Intense pressure might be...when I was down a cool million on an intended few minute AMZN trade end of 2018, but I hung tough until a few months later when I sold at a profit. Actually, if I didn't view that as intense pressure why would I view anything coming from an internet forum as intense?
I said intense interrogation. Not pressure.
But well done in explaining how little pressure you feel while making Million Dollar martingales averages down trades. And well done telling us again about how blithely you smash Baccarat.
Sorry, but I believe you retracted/clarified only because you were effectively called out. As you've said, you have posted this anecdote a few times over the years. You only retracted this time, because?Quote:
I clarified/retracted what I had originally posted because it was the right thing to do to make more clear what might have happened.
We note, how exceptional you are!Quote:Have you ever cut a deck and experienced four blackjacks in a row at table limit, or fourteen Banks in a row right out the gate at Bacc. betting progressively 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000, etc.? or taken 100 or 200 to ten or twenty thousand dollars in one shoe? If yes - then most of what I post would just seem routine.
How thoroughly has that been disproved in this very thread? Each time you make that claim, we will remind ourselves here.Quote:Everything I post is 100% factual.
OK. I'll bite. was it five or six? Is your memory, and the memory of your witnesses, of such an incredible event uncertain? Such an unforgettable event and you collectively can only pitch to within 20% ?!Quote:Here's another blackjack truth, I once took the change, about sixty bucks, from paying off the commission on a Bacc shoe and jammed it parlaying it all the way to five or six grand at a Blackjack table while waiting for the Bacc shuffle, and then returned to the Bacc table with five or six grand more than what I had minutes prior. My friends who were with me on that trip and witnessed it still talk about that one.
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Quote: Expectedvalueyou claim you are fried dinosaur brains in Africa 20 years ago only to find out you didn’t
You can eat fried dinosaur brains today, how would you find out that what you ate 20 years ago wasn't dinosaur brains?
As well, saying that anything has been "disproved," let alone "thoroughly," is again in the opinion of the writer. Nothing has been proved or disproved, all that has happened is that the odds for what has been claimed have been calculated, perhaps correctly, perhaps not, given that my recollection of what exactly happened in terms of how many hands in a row I won, is not precise.
I don't care if something is darn near impossible. Unlikely events including miracles have happened over the course of human history according to billions of believers, and it is up to you to decide whether something has happened or not. What I describe is certainly not on the order of a miracle.
There was a small crowd around me when I was winning, and it wasn't because of the sums I was winning - which, again ended with merely some $70K ahead - no vast sum - but rather because I just kept winning and winning and winning. It was extraordinary. The pit staff, dealers and casino marveled at reminding me of that streak for years to come not because I won a mere $70K, but because at that session, I was unstoppable, for so long.
MDawg...... I can see we need to revisit some super simple questions. Not about what you recall happening, but what actually happened. We can also look into your own assessment of your memory function, later.Quote: MDawgOnceDear's saying that MDawg clarified/retracted only because he was "called out" is wrong, and a reaching speculation on his part.
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As well, saying that anything has been "disproved," let alone "thoroughly," is again in the opinion of the writer. Nothing has been proved or disproved, all that has happened is that the odds for what has been claimed have been calculated, perhaps correctly, perhaps not, given that my recollection of what exactly happened in terms of how many hands in a row I won, is not precise.
I don't care if something is darn near impossible. Unlikely events including miracles have happened over the course of human history according to billions of believers, and it is up to you to decide whether something has happened or not. What I describe is certainly not on the order of a miracle.
There was a small crowd around me when I was winning, and it wasn't because of the sums I was winning - which, again ended with merely some $70K ahead - no vast sum - but rather because I just kept winning and winning and winning. It was extraordinary. The pit staff, dealers and casino marveled at reminding me of that streak for years to come not because I won a mere $70K, but because at that session, I was unstoppable, for so long.
Did you assert that you encountered 'some sixty winning hands in a row' ( I moved the 'some' for you)
Does 'in a row' mean that apart from ties, there were ZERO losing hands in that streak.
Would 30 wins, one loss and another 30 wins qualify as some sixty wins in a row'?
(Clue. It wouldn't for me)
Later you asserted that you won just short of $70k at $800 per hand. and you quit when you encountered 2 consecutive losses the first time. So, by wizard's estimation you actually won about 70 some hands.
So are you now accepting that within that session of 70some hands there was only ONE losing hand? Or maybe a few separate losing hands?
If there were losing hands, do you accept that you did not have some 60 winning hands in a row but that you actually had 'some 70 winning hands in a session of over 70 some hands... with only the occasional individual loss?
Had I witnessed the session, or Had I been MDawg, and he had been very steadily winning his 800 flat bets, with say 10 consecutive wins, a loss, 20 more wins, a loss, 5 more wins, a loss, 30 wins, a loss... etc till he was 70k up and stopped out at a pair of losses, I'd have said, and would still say "Wow! MDawg was unstoppable." BUT. No Way in hades was that anything in the ballpark of some sixty wins IN A ROW.
It's never been the Some Sixty in dispute. It has been the IN A ROW, Which is frankly the basis of all the calculations.
I don't believe you.Quote: MDawgOnceDear's saying that MDawg clarified/retracted only because he was "called out" is wrong, and a reaching speculation on his part.
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As well, saying that anything has been "disproved," let alone "thoroughly," is again in the opinion of the writer. Nothing has been proved or disproved, all that has happened is that the odds for what has been claimed have been calculated, perhaps correctly, perhaps not, given that my recollection of what exactly happened in terms of how many hands in a row I won, is not precise.
I don't care if something is darn near impossible. Unlikely events including miracles have happened over the course of human history according to billions of believers, and it is up to you to decide whether something has happened or not. What I describe is certainly not on the order of a miracle.
There was a small crowd around me when I was winning, and it wasn't because of the sums I was winning - which, again ended with merely some $70K ahead - no vast sum - but rather because I just kept winning and winning and winning. It was extraordinary. The pit staff, dealers and casino marveled at reminding me of that streak for years to come not because I won a mere $70K, but because at that session, I was unstoppable, for so long.
Quote: MDawgThere are three kinds of people.
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1. The first, make things happen.
2. The second, watch things happen.
3. The third, wonder, What the h happened?
Im all 3 as well.
1)I log into this forum to make things happen.
2)I watch people post ridiculous claims on here.
3)I wonder what the h*!! really happened.
I usually do that daily.
Quote: OnceDearI can see we need to revisit some super simple questions. Not about what you recall happening, but what actually happened.
You can accept his recollection or not, but how would he be able to say with certainty, that what he recalls of this event from 20 years ago is not what actually happened?
Quote: coachbellyYou can accept his recollection or not, but how would he (or anyone) be able to say with certainty, that what he recalls of this event from 20 years ago is not what actually happened?
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Quote: MDawgIt should be "some sixty" hands in a row. If you want to PM me I will tell you my average bet and how much exactly I walked with, and you figure out how many hands in a row I won! I was unstoppable. We can talk about this more when I see you or on the phone. It is truthful.
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Looking back, I wonder if the fact that they were constantly changing decks or getting to the point where they would deal only one hand to me and then shuffle was actually what made my streak possible. In any case, yes, it did happen.
And yes, I have posted about this at WOV before.
Bolding mine.
Some sixty hands in a row did happen. That sir was MDawg's assertion.
Any of us could assert or accept that he recalled wrongly. He had not done so by that point in the thread.
Quote: OnceDearSome sixty hands in a row did happen. That sir was MDawg's assertion
Yes...that is his recollection.
How could he say with certainty that's not what actually happened?
Nobody is asking him to. He asserted that it happened. Only a while later did he accept that that was only how he recalled it.Quote: coachbellyYes...that is his recollection.
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How could he say with certainty that's not what actually happened?
It was the original forceful assertion that was and is challenged. Many of his assertions go unchallenged. Maybe in future we will be more rigorous in doubting his memory.
Garbage in, garbage out.Quote: MDawgall that has happened is that the odds for what has been claimed have been calculated, perhaps correctly, perhaps not, given that my recollection of what exactly happened in terms of how many hands in a row I won, is not precise.
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The odds for what has been claimed have been accurately calculated. That accuracy is not in question and is not qualified by the odds of what ACTUALLY happened. Nobody has or can calculate the odds of what actually happened because there is no reliable testimony as to what actually happened. None. Zero. Zilch.
Quote: OnceDearOnly a while later did he accept that that was only how he recalled it.
What are you talking about?
He always accepted his recollection.
Quote: MDawgI was beating the h out of the house at single deck, won sixty some hands in a row, they kept changing decks (although this had zero effect, I just kept winning every single hand anyway...
This, and only this. assertion is being challenged.
I don't believe it happened. Who does?
IMHO, It did not happen.
The poster that asserted it did happen is mistaken. His recollection, while good for 20 or so years, is incorrect.
Quote: OnceDearthere is no reliable testimony as to what actually happened.
What's not precise is how many hands in a row he won.
That's why he used the qualifier "some" .
But he can't reliably testify that a loss occurred mid-steak, because that's not his recollection.
Quote: OnceDearThis, and only this. assertion is being challenged.
Haven't you asserted that, since you consider his recollection of an event from 20 years ago to be mistaken, then his recollections relayed in his current trip reports should be dismissed as mistaken as well?
Maybe it wasn't you, that's why I asked.
I'll go look for the quote, you can answer to the best of your recollection while I do.
'In a row' is 'In a row'Quote: coachbellyWhat's not precise is how many hands in a row he won.
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That's why he used the qualifier "some" .
But he can't reliably testify that a loss occurred mid-steak, because that's not his recollection.
Whether it's some 60 or 70 some. It's not in a row if there was ONE or more losses interspersed.
Mdawg claimed some 60 in a row. That claim was in error.
Which gives us reason to question his other statistically extremely unlikely claims, such as...
"I once saw 49 consecutive baccarat hands with 48 Player wins, not counting ties. "
One of MDawg's extremely clear and explicit assertions. So statistically unlikely that it should be dismissed as not having happened.
I don't recall saying that. I doubt I did.Quote: coachbellyHaven't you asserted that, since you consider his recollection of an event from 20 years ago to be mistaken, then his recollections relayed in his current trip reports should be dismissed as mistaken as well?
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Maybe it wasn't you, that's why I asked.
I'll go look for the quote, you can answer to the best of your recollection while I do.
He has been witnessed playing and winning like he says he does. I don't think I'm gullible. I'm happy to read and comment on his posts.
Quote: ExpectedvalueQuote: DieterQuote: SOOPOOI’ll help you understand. The vast majority of posters here do not believe that MDawg has consistently crushed the casinos playing the negative expectation game, baccarat.
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You don’t understand why? This guy comes in and makes claims which outfit right defy even the highest odds. He makes counterintuitive claims and then doubles down on them. Post claims of having millions and talks in the third person. Brags to no end, where as most people would simply say my room at the hotel, he brags by constantly saying my suite. There is another lawyer in town. , actually two of them one is naqvi who has multiple billboards and the other I won’t name . Both have the same persona and want everyone to think they are the bear at everything they do. And always go out of their way to prove itlink to original post
Yes, those would be more "what"s that people are hung up about.
Why would someone get hung up on any of it?
It doesn't affect my play. It probably doesn't affect yours.
I don't see a pot of gold glimmering at the end of the gotcha rainbow.
joke of the day 😊Quote: mwalz9Quote: MDawgThere are three kinds of people.
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1. The first, make things happen.
2. The second, watch things happen.
3. The third, wonder, What the h happened?
Im all 3 as well.
1)I log into this forum to make things happen.
2)I watch people post ridiculous claims on here.
3)I wonder what the h*!! really happened.
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So are you asking why people care about getting to the truth of things and not blindly just believe outrageous claims?Quote: DieterQuote: ExpectedvalueQuote: DieterQuote: SOOPOOI’ll help you understand. The vast majority of posters here do not believe that MDawg has consistently crushed the casinos playing the negative expectation game, baccarat.
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You don’t understand why? This guy comes in and makes claims which outfit right defy even the highest odds. He makes counterintuitive claims and then doubles down on them. Post claims of having millions and talks in the third person. Brags to no end, where as most people would simply say my room at the hotel, he brags by constantly saying my suite. There is another lawyer in town. , actually two of them one is naqvi who has multiple billboards and the other I won’t name . Both have the same persona and want everyone to think they are the bear at everything they do. And always go out of their way to prove itlink to original post
Yes, those would be more "what"s that people are hung up about.
Why would someone get hung up on any of it?
It doesn't affect my play. It probably doesn't affect yours.
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Quote: OnceDearThis, and only this assertion is being challenged.
That statement is disingenuous...everything is being challenged, based on an opinion that MDawg's recollection of all details of an event from some 20 years ago is somewhat mistaken.
Quote: OnceDearI think he damaged his credibility just a little. It's that same credibility that supports his every assertion, his every session report.
Quote: OnceDearThere is nothing wrong with quoting a somewhat flawed memory in an anecdote. But it does taint our perception of previous or subsequent anecdotes.
Quote: OnceDearEach time you make that claim, we will remind ourselves here.
Quote: ExpectedvalueHis exact memory with all stories is now questioned in at least this posters mind.
1) It undoubtedly affects the way SOME readers play. Just look at Wellbush and Marcus. Some people actually care about others.
2) It undermines the credibility of the entire forum.
3) One of the reasons it undermines the credibility of the entire forum is because the forum has become a billboard for these claims. Does anyone really post more than MDawg?
4) It alienates and denigrates the accomplishments and expertise of people who have actually won lifetime gambling.
I cannot believe a mod would actually be, or pretend to be, baffled at the WHYs, obvious as they are. It's either completely disingenuous or completely naive.
Quote: redietzHere's some WHYs, obvious as they are:
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1) It undoubtedly affects the way SOME readers play. Just look at Wellbush and Marcus. Some people actually care about others.
2) It undermines the credibility of the entire forum.
3) One of the reasons it undermines the credibility of the entire forum is because the forum has become a billboard for these claims. Does anyone really post more than MDawg?
4) It alienates and denigrates the accomplishments and expertise of people who have actually won lifetime gambling.
I cannot believe a mod would actually be, or pretend to be, baffled at the WHYs, obvious as they are. It's either completely disingenuous or completely naive.
1) Dubious. People are going to play the way they want.
2) Maybe. This is page 35 or 36 of arguing over a memory of a 20 year old card game. That should be troubling enough.
3) Has it? Most of the claims are relegated to the back pages, unless discussion persists.
4) Valid. Say you don't believe it, say it's a sextillion to one event (or whatever the math says).
Thanks for humoring my curiosity.
MDAWG FROM XXXXXXXXXXX
Q: I once saw 49 consecutive baccarat hands with 48 Player wins, not counting ties. What is the probability of that per shoe?
The Wizard
A: The average shoe has 80.884 total hands. The probability of a Tie is 0.095156, so if we take those out we can expect 73.18740 hands per shoe, not counting ties.
The probability of any 49 consecutive hands, not counting ties, having 48 Player wins is 1 in 21,922,409,835,345. However, there are 25.1874 possible starting points for these 49 hands, to make estimate. Thus, the probability of seeing the aforementioned event in a shoe is 1 in 870,371,922,467. This is not a hard and fast answer, but what I feel is a very good estimate.
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I'm seeing a trend here. One must ask themselves, how accurate is this account?
despite all the nonsense here at least there is solid info coming from the leader, the Mods and a few others who beat down the voodoo claims
Mission is great at this, I don't know where he gets the patience for it - I certainly don't have it
there is another gambling forum where the leader is a voodoo practitioner______________that's really, really bad
so, we do have some things to be thankful for here
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doesn't effect my play. I got my own strategy.Quote: redietzHere's some WHYs, obvious as they are:
1) It undoubtedly affects the way SOME readers play. Just look at Wellbush and Marcus. Some people actually care about others.
I'm fully responsible for my own foray into gambling. So should everyone else be.
It's also not MD's responsibility to warn gamblers about the dangers of gambling. That's WOV's responsibility, and they're doing it how and when they want to.
I don't think so.Quote: redietz2) It undermines the credibility of the entire forum.
maybe more people visit the forum due to MDQuote: redietz3) One of the reasons it undermines the credibility of the entire forum is because the forum has become a billboard for these claims. Does anyone really post more than MDawg?
why? How?Quote: redietz4) It alienates and denigrates the accomplishments and expertise of people who have actually won lifetime gambling.
I'm making the point your arguments are seriously overstated🤷Quote: redietzI cannot believe a mod would actually be, or pretend to be, baffled at the WHYs, obvious as they are.
Quote: redietzIt's either completely disingenuous or completely naive.
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In any case, what happened actually happened and the chips I pocketed as a result of the streak were quite real.
