tringlomane
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July 3rd, 2013 at 5:37:15 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

After the fact yes but before any cards are dealt, no.

Yeah, that's what I meant. After the fact is questionable in a deuces wild game too because you throw away Ace thru Ten cards a lot.
Nareed
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July 3rd, 2013 at 5:38:02 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

I thought the chances of being dealt a royal increase after the initial five dealt cards are discarded?

It depends on whether or not you threw away a ten, ace or a face card in the first hand. In DW you wouldn't keep, say 10, A unsuited. That cuts the chances of a royal by half, no?
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Ibeatyouraces
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July 3rd, 2013 at 5:40:43 PM permalink
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tringlomane
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July 3rd, 2013 at 5:47:44 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

There was a thread a while back where JB did the odds for JoB I believe. I don't remember if DW was done though. I think there are a lot more throw away hands in DW compared to JoB.

Mike had answered an "Ask the Wizard" question over this using FPDW, but he failed to use scientific notation for after the draw for this. The after draw probability of hitting it according to him was 0.0000014 = ~1 in 710,000. That would be slightly worse than a dealt royal. And the probability of tossing all 5 card in FPDW is less than 20%. Hence, the more than 5 times less likely probability.

tringlomane
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July 3rd, 2013 at 5:47:44 PM permalink
double post
djatc
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July 4th, 2013 at 12:00:34 AM permalink
I played 50 line JoB for a bit and was hoping for a deal lol.... \$2k wouldn't be too bad on pennies. I did get 3 royals in 2 hands last session however.

Other then that I've been wonging Ultimate X machines. The ones at Palms never leave a multiplier for some reason. I am the bum that always checks multipliers in the high limit area lol.
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RogerKint
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July 4th, 2013 at 12:19:31 AM permalink
I always get killed on those 50-play machines when cashing out my rebate. Last weekend, my girlfriend and I were about to check the Palms HL room for multipliers when we saw someone else already doing so. That might explain why you can find any. The 1-5c Ultimate X slant tops, near the FPDW, often have abandoned multipliers if you should get desperate enough.
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tringlomane
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July 4th, 2013 at 3:00:05 AM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

The 1-5c Ultimate X slant tops, near the FPDW, often have abandoned multipliers if you should get desperate enough.

What kind of paytables is Palms offering for these? I don't think I have seen better than 8/5 DDB or 6/5 Bonus for nickels yet..
IAchance5
Joined: May 28, 2010
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July 4th, 2013 at 7:58:20 AM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

I always get killed on those 50-play machines when cashing out my rebate. Last weekend, my girlfriend and I were about to check the Palms HL room for multipliers when we saw someone else already doing so. That might explain why you can find any. The 1-5c Ultimate X slant tops, near the FPDW, often have abandoned multipliers if you should get desperate enough.

What exactly do you mean "checking the game for multipliers"?
tringlomane
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