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Ibeatyouraces
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June 21st, 2013 at 9:48:57 AM permalink
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AlanMendelson
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June 21st, 2013 at 10:22:50 AM permalink
Happened twice with me, but I have seen so many more get it. For something that happens once in 629,740 hands I have seen plenty in my life. And that makes me wonder if I spend too much time in casinos.

But I have to tell you about the biggest wasted dealt royal I have ever seen...

Happened at Rincon about three years ago. Elderly couple at a 100 play machine, multi denomination, they were playing ONE LINE for ONE CENT and got a dealt royal.
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June 21st, 2013 at 10:48:36 AM permalink
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Nareed
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June 21st, 2013 at 11:12:49 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

And little things like this is why casinos have offered things like near or above 100%+ VP for years. Many players will go for the Royal unless it's clearly incorrect. And 2 to a Royal Ace high it's definitely not clearly incorrect in deuces, imo.



The Wizard's simple strategy says to hold 2 to a royal J,Q high, if I remember correctly. I misremembered it into "2 to a royal."

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FWIW, that play costs you less than a penny to make per occurrence on that machine as AK suited is the next best play.



I don't get deep into the math because I can't. But I was playing a bit agressively in that machine because all I'd lose most hands was 25 cents. So I'd once in a while dump 3 of a kind to go for a stright flush, or dump a straight to go for a straight flush, things like that. IN the latter, though, many times I got a simple flush, which pays as much as a straight.

Read my trip recent report. I was tempted to dump a dealt wild royal in a triple play machine. In the end I kept it because my intuitive understanding of poker was that I would most likely lose. Besides, that was risking $18+, not $0.25 Granted $18 is not much, but it's not nothing either. That was almost my daily expenses for meals, or almost one 3-day all access bus pass. $0.25 in contrast is just loose change.
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tringlomane
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June 21st, 2013 at 11:17:01 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Happened at Rincon about three years ago. Elderly couple at a 100 play machine, multi denomination, they were playing ONE LINE for ONE CENT and got a dealt royal.



Ouch. It's rare to even see anyone play a single penny on these machines; I'm not sure if I watched anyone consistently do it. Once at Flamingo, which is where I hit a dealt royal on a 100-play, I sat next to a girl in her 20s that was playing one line, but I still want to say she was still betting 5 credits. I wasn't much better, only betting 36 cents for my dealt royal ($240). :(

And Aces is right 4/2,598,960 = 1 in 649,740. I don't think I have played that many rounds of VP in the casino yet personally in my life, but I really don't keep count either.
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June 21st, 2013 at 11:23:46 AM permalink
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1 in 649,740.



Damn!! that's why Im not getting more of them!!!

(LOL, my typo.)

tringlomane... I see people playing the 50 line and 100 line games all the time for a penny or just a nickel at Rincon because thats the only way to play VP at Rincon at a penny or a nickel. There are no other "super low" denomination machines.

In fact, so many people complained, that they moved some of the 50 line and 100 line games into the high limit area, to keep the "one penny, one line players" off of them.
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June 21st, 2013 at 11:25:01 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

The Wizard's simple strategy says to hold 2 to a royal J,Q high, if I remember correctly. I misremembered it into "2 to a royal."



I don't get deep into the math because I can't.



Easy enough to do I think. And without JB's hand analyzer/strategy maker I couldn't get too deep into the math either...lol
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June 21st, 2013 at 2:11:13 PM permalink
Thanks guys. I really wanted it on the bingo square for the Palms 5 play ($6.25 a pop!) but this is nice too.

Before that I hit 2 4 deuces and used that to parlay the 5 play but I just could not fill the straight flush squares and the obvious royal. I did hit my fair share of 4oak but still the freeplay wasn't much, like $30.
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rudeboyoi
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June 21st, 2013 at 3:51:07 PM permalink
did the machine auto-hold auto-win when you got dealt the royal? or did you have to hold the cards yourself?
tringlomane
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June 21st, 2013 at 4:02:15 PM permalink
I'd assume auto-hold. That's what it did for me, but the unit I won it on was less than 1-year-old at the time too...haha

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