Chump Change Software Sessions

Played three sessions on the Wiz's BJ site. I try to win 15 bets ahead, or lose 25 bets per session. The 1st session I tripled my money from $1K to $3K. The next session I doubled my bets and kept $1K aside to repeat the first session. I won from $2K to $6K + the $1K extra equals $7K. I started my third session where I doubled my bets again, or just left off where I was basically. I set aside $3K to repeat the first 2 sessions and used $4K in an attempt to triple it to $12K + $3K extra equals $15K. I got as far as $12.3K, but less than 3 minutes later I was back at $7K.

This is one of the rare times I'm getting winning sessions on this game at this site. Maybe it's because I'm playing from a different computer and the game hasn't learned me yet.
The real casinos around me may have $500 max bets, so if I want to bet $720 for example, I'd have to bet two spots at $360.
I lost 50 more hands back and quit at $1K. I could have taken a win at $7K or $15K and split them up into a bunch of $1K sessions. But I was going for more, trying to get to 25X my $1K buy-in with a 4th session.

I did make another run at $15K but didn't get much above $13K. If I did make it to $15K, my next buy-in would be $5K and I'd try to triple that $15K; but if I lose I still have $10K leftover and I could count that as a 225 bet win or a win of 9 more buy-ins. If I won the 4th session I could count that as a 600 bet win with 24 more buy-ins; but I'd likely go on to another round with double the stakes, so it'd be a 300 bet win with 12 more buy-ins. It depends what table limits I'm trying to get through. But one thing is clear, I can get past $10K and lose it all right back in a few more shoes.

I spent an afternoon playing the Ultimate Texas Hold'em Demo Game at Draft Kings. I like to bet 2/3rds of my Ante bet on the trips; so $15 on Ante, $15 on Blind, and $10 on Trips. If I go 4X on Play with a pair of kings, that's another $60 for a total bet of $100. The game starts with $2,000. I'd rather start at $2,500 in a real casino. If I get to above $3,000 I'll double my bets; if I get above $4,000 I'll triple my bets; if I get above $5,500 I'll quadruple my bets; if I get above $7,500 I'll take it to 6X my bets. I'm basically on my way to $10.5K.

At the start of this game I got a straight flush on the 2nd hand and it put me above $3,000 right away. Not long after I got another straight flush and I got to above $4,000. I finally got to $5,000 and considered just starting a new session with double my bets so I could get closer to the $200 maximum bet. I was just treading the same ground and getting nowhere. I tried using a progression where I'd increase my bets 1 unit ($10 trips + $15 Ante & Blind) on each win where the Ante won in a row. If I lost I'd reset to a base bet. The problem with that is that I'd bet 4X on Play and get beat so I'd lose a lot at the higher bets so it doesn't really put me far enough ahead. I did get to above $6K, but a bunch of losing hands at max bet knocks me back down a couple thousand.

For a $25K max payout table, my $45, $45, $30 bets are about the max.
For a $50K max payout table, my $90, $90, $60 bets are about the max.
A Royal Flush pays about $8K per unit of $15, $15, $10.

In the picture, the win amounts include the bet amounts and with various ratios, so it's not necessarily a doubling up of each.

Started this demo game with $2,000. I was betting $5 per spin and set the auto spin to 50 spins per round and reset with a win of $100 and no stop loss. I lost 25% in the first 100 spins, or $125 out of $500 bet. I shortly won back to $2K. I raised my bet gingerly to $10 and doubled my losses just as quickly but made it up on the backglass bonus round. There's a lot I could write about my session, but the highest bet is $350/spin, and in the screenshot I have here I hit $35K on a $300 spin with a win of $5K. I was getting a lot of paltry bonus round offers of less than 10, such that I'd need to take a 15 or better offer and hope a multiplier popped up (2X, 3X or 4X) and brought up the bonus significantly. I also hit a line pay for $8K at the $200/spin level that brought me to above $30K for the first time. I had a 24 credit win with a 4X multiplier at the $150 level for a $14.4K win that brought me from $9.9K to $24.3K.

I've got to go try to figure out a strategy to beat this game but it will be hard because the bonus rounds are not consistent, they can come very often a few times or drought on me for over 100 spins. I'd probably have a 200 spin minimum at whatever credits I'm at with another buy-in handy. I fell to $20K and lowered my bet to $50/spin. That could drag me down to $10K where I'd lower my bet to $25/spin.

I hit a big bonus at $100/spin, 104X my bet with a 3X multiplier for a $30.6K win! That totaled up to $54,007 on the credit meter, but the picture wouldn't upload for some reason. For sure my losses up to this point were larger than my hand pays if there were such a thing. I'd have to go by session accounting and get these W-2G's tossed out.
If I hit 1100X the $350 max bet and hit a 4X multiplier, that'd be a $1.54 million jackpot!
I'll probably want to have $20K session buy-ins with $100 minimums after I get ahead on this game so the 1000+ credit wins pay over $100K.
It said the machine had a payback of 96.3%, which could be considerably higher than a local machine of the same name. But turning $2K into $60K is a 2,900% win rate. I could split that up into 30X $2K buy-ins to last me a month, but when I turn off the computer tonight the game is over and all the credits disappear.



Bet levels are $1, $2.50, $5, $10, $25, $50, $100, $150, $200, $250, $300, $350 per spin.
I tried to screenshot my Bonus Round wins and hand pay amount wins. So here's a list of what turned up in order.
A $4K win that brought me to $6.5K on a $50 spin Bonus Round (80 credits).
A $2.5K win that brought me to $7,980 on a $100 spin Bonus Round (25 credits).
A $1.5K win that brought me to $4,105 on a $50 spin Bonus Round (30 credits).
A $3.4K win that brought me to $6,785 on a $50 spin Bonus Round (68 credits).
A $6.6K win that brought me to $10,925 on a $100 spin Bonus Round (66 credits).
A $1.2K Line 3 Pay (there was a line 1 pay too, total was $1,380) that brought me to $9,965 on a $150 spin with a Double Crowns times double bars.
A $14.4K win (24 credits X 4) that brought me to $24,365 on a $150 spin Bonus Round (96 credits).
An $8K Line 1 Pay that brought me to $31,405 on a $200 spin with two Double Crowns times a triple bars.
A $5.1K win that brought me to $35,605 on a $300 spin Bonus Round (17 credits).
A $4.4K win that brought me to $23,305 on a $200 spin Bonus Round (22 credits).
A $4.5K win that brought me to $20,725 on a $150 spin Bonus Round (30 credits).
A $1.7K win that brought me to $16,925 on a $100 spin Bonus Round (17 credits).
A $2,550 win that brought me to $19,325 on a $150 spin Bonus Round (17 credits).
A $2.2K win that brought me to $16,465 on a $100 spin Bonus Round (22 credits).
A $1.7K win that brought me to $17,865 on a $100 spin Bonus Round (17 credits).
A $3.8K win that brought me to $20,965 on a $100 spin Bonus Round (38 credits).
A $6.8K win that brought me to $25,685 on a $100 spin Bonus Round (68 credits).
A Line 1 & 3 Pay of $1,380 that brought me to $23,315 on a $150 spin with a Double Crowns times double bars.
A $1.7K win that brought me to $19,795 on a $50 spin Bonus Round (34 credits).
A $3.8K win that brought me to $22,787 on a $50 spin Bonus Round (76 credits).
A $2.4K win that brought me to $23,687 on a $100 spin Bonus Round (24 credits).
A $1.7K win that brought me to $25,107 on a $100 spin Bonus Round (17 credits).
A $30.6K win that brought me to $54,007 on a $100 spin Bonus Round (306 credits).
A $3K win that brought me to $56,287 on a $150 spin Bonus Round (20 credits).
A $5.1K win that brought me to $61,237 on a $150 spin Bonus Round (34 credits).
A $2,850 win that brought me to $55,867 on a $150 spin Bonus Round (19 credits).
A $1.8K win that brought me to $50,887 on a $150 spin Bonus Round (12 credits).

So that's a total of 27 hand pays totaling $128,860 in W-2G's on total wins of $48,887 so I'd need to document $79,973 in losses, which is more than my real total wins. It's all so confusing. This was a demo game, I'm not in tax trouble this time. I'd just say my buy-in was $2K and my cash-out was $50,887 and the session profit was $48,887.

Here's a pay table. I hit triple 7's twice. Say I have a $50/spin bet, that's $10 per line. A triple 7 would pay 60X $10 or $600. If a Double Crowns shows up with two 7's on a line that would pay $1.2K. If 2 Double Crowns show up with one 7 on a line, that would pay $2.4K.

Saw Stacy's Slots playing a one line version of Top Dollar for $200 a spin and getting $0.40 in points per spin at $500 per point. The top prize is $100,000+ and I didn't see any multipliers. This is just one version of the game and it's a high limit game with a $100 denom. She seemed satisfied with taking $4,000+ jackpots on this one. She had $10,000+ in free play she was using and she put $2,000 of it in the machine to use, or 20 credits, or 10 spins at 2 credits a spin. She won $7.5K from it.




On another machine with $25, $50, and $100 denoms and a 2X multiplier, maybe two 2X multipliers. Here she's playing a $50 denom at two credits or $100/spin and wins 175X her bet. With 350 credits ($50 denom) won in one spin, the attendant had to be called to get a hand pay. Her camera malfunctioned right after she started spinning again and all the spins were in slo-motion, so she tossed that portion out of the video.

Pompsie has a video comparing the new and old Top Dollar machines they found.
The old one uses the Credit system on the backglass that was used on the Draft Kings game. The denoms were $10, $25, $50, $100, and they chose $10 and played for $20/spin.




The new one has $5, $10, $25, and $50 denoms. Since they didn't hit hardly anything much less the Top Dollar Bonus round, I'll show both machines and the new one is on the left and the older one is on the right. They had terrible luck at each and lost $1,200 on the new one and $1,000 on the old one at $20/spin.



Found a Double Top Dollar on another channel. It has $25 and $100 denoms, 1-2 credits per spin. This has 2X posted twice on the backglass.



So I'm trying to get the sequence of the values of the prizes on the backglass.
It's 100% of the top prize on the top line. It's 0.5%, 2% and 1% on the 2nd line. It's 5%, 1%, and 0.5% on the 3rd line. It's 2%, 5%, and 10% on the 4th line. That's just for the photo above. It may vary on different games. The denom changes the top prize. So for $1 it'd be $1K; for $2 it'd be $2K, for $5 it'd be $5K, for $10 it'd be $10K, for $25 it'd be $25K, for $50 it'd be $50K, for $100 it'd be $100K, for $200 it'd be $200K, for $300 it'd be $300K. If you somehow double or triple up your bet the top prize may stick with the same denom, but the prizes below may multiply..

Found a Top Dollar Grand with 25 cent, 50 cent, $1, and $2 denoms with up to 9 lines to be bet, but it says 10 credits bet. There's 3 progressive meters on it. - video by Slot Hopper




Here's another machine she found with 25 cent and $1 denoms. She was playing 75 cents a line or $7.50/spin and hit Top Dollar. The backglass says she won 450 credits, but that only paid 450 times 25 cents, not 450 times 75 cents. I'm thinking the values on the backglass tripled with her tripled bet.

Since I'm having problems uploading photos at the moment, I'll throw in the video. She's having much better luck and fun at these machines than some of the other videos I've previewed today.

Playing the Wiz's craps game today. Had a couple sessions go to $0. The 3rd one went to under $1,000 but I recovered to my normal buy-in of $13,500 and ran it up to over $60K. I was betting $300 with $300, $400, $500 odds on the Pass Line then when I got above $13,500 I doubled it. When I got to $22,500 I tripled it, and when I got to $36,000 I quadrupled it, and when I got to $54,000 I sextupled my original bets. So instead of losing 15 times on 7-outs, I won over 30 points ahead from my bottom. I've been playing for a little less than a couple hours on this session and normally I would cash-out, but I could continue on to over $120,000. My local table has a $1K or $2K max bet on the line so I'd have to expand out to Come bets.