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Wellbush
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March 23rd, 2021 at 5:05:54 AM permalink
Hello.

I don't really know where to put this thread, but I'll try here for starters.

It seems from my internet searches over the past 4 months, that no-one thinks there is a strategy that can beat the house at blackjack, except via card counting.

From one angle this makes sense, but from a mathematical stand point there appears to be a way, just that no-one has unlocked the key to do it. That's my impression anyway. So I've been hard at it and I think I may stumbled across the Holy Grail! No, this is not a joke, although you would be forgiven for thinking it is. Afterall, it's only taken me 4 months, when I've been told no-one's been able to do it for decades (except via card counting).

So here's the deal. There's no card counting. There's no tricks. It's just a variation on the fibonacci betting method. The variation I've put in place overcomes the problem of dealer winning streaks. That last sentence should prick people's ears, but honestly, I find it incredible that no-one seems to have been able to work out a strategy that gets around dealer winning streaks in decades!

I don't mind being the laughing stock for now, because I've been putting my strategy to the test lately, and it seems to be coming up trumps all the time! There are a number of free online casinos that I've trialled. The one that I found the hardest to beat, using near perfect basic strategy, is [casino identity redacted]. So I am using the strategy on that site. Yep, beats it every time. If it can win there, it'll annihilate the other sites!

This is all a bit weird right now, but that's what's big news in my world at least.
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March 23rd, 2021 at 5:12:12 AM permalink
I make no accusations, but I wish to remind you that selling systems on this site will lead to an immediate nuking of your account. We are not above using spies to pretend to be interested buyers.
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Wellbush
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March 23rd, 2021 at 5:22:03 AM permalink
Ah, I should have read the rules, not for selling, but appearing to be. I should have also posted my thread under betting systems, too. Whoops.

This is probably not the site for me. I genuinely believe I'm on to something but it appears the Wizard doesn't care for such topics, so I'll move on. Cheers
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March 23rd, 2021 at 6:42:10 AM permalink
Quote: Wellbush

Hello.

I don't really know where to put this thread, but I'll try here for starters.

It seems from my internet searches over the past 4 months, that no-one thinks there is a strategy that can beat the house at blackjack, except via card counting.

From one angle this makes sense, but from a mathematical stand point there appears to be a way, just that no-one has unlocked the key to do it. That's my impression anyway. So I've been hard at it and I think I may stumbled across the Holy Grail! No, this is not a joke, although you would be forgiven for thinking it is. Afterall, it's only taken me 4 months, when I've been told no-one's been able to do it for decades (except via card counting).

So here's the deal. There's no card counting. There's no tricks. It's just a variation on the fibonacci betting method. The variation I've put in place overcomes the problem of dealer winning streaks. That last sentence should prick people's ears, but honestly, I find it incredible that no-one seems to have been able to work out a strategy that gets around dealer winning streaks in decades!

I don't mind being the laughing stock for now, because I've been putting my strategy to the test lately, and it seems to be coming up trumps all the time! There are a number of free online casinos that I've trialled. The one that I found the hardest to beat, using near perfect basic strategy, is [casino identity redacted]. So I am using the strategy on that site. Yep, beats it every time. If it can win there, it'll annihilate the other sites!

This is all a bit weird right now, but that's what's big news in my world at least.


Thanks Wellbush and welcome to the forum.
I'll move this thread to the betting system's subforum, for you.

This is what's likely to happen next.....
I will politely assert to you that you are wrong. There is no progressive system that can turn a negative expectation game such as blackjack into a positive expectation game. Your system won't do that, cannot do that.
What your system CAN do is modify the pattern that your bankroll would show if plotted on a graph. It can very probably increase the probability of any session or set of sessions being winning sessions. But the price you pay for a high probability of a small win is ALWAYS counterbalanced by a small probability of a massive loss.

Similar to Martingale or D'alembert systems, eventually the long term will bring you that session or sequence of sessions that obliterates your bankroll. Of course, another thing you'll be told is that sessions mean nothing, zero, zilch . Don't try countering that you will be rich before reaching that long term, or you will be laughed at $:o)

Other posters in this thread might laugh at you, but really they are laughing at your notion, so don't take it personally.

Yet other posters might hop in to say to ignore the naysayers like me or Wizard.

It is absolutely dead easy and possible to use your system to win a long sequence of sessions where you increase your bankroll. well done in discovering that useless snippet. It truly only has use in that it makes gambling more fun than boring old flat betting.

I'm censoring that casino name out from your post, because it looks like promotional spam.

Here's some resources for you.

https://wizardofvegas.com/member/oncedear/blog/#post1370

https://wizardofvegas.com/member/oncedear/blog/#post2245
Take care out there. Spare a thought for the newly poor who were happy in their world just a few days ago, but whose whole way of life just collapsed..
unJon
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March 23rd, 2021 at 8:44:18 AM permalink
If you post the betting sequence you use and your win stop and loss stop, some mathematician here may be kind enough to run a simulation and tell you how likely you are to quit ahead or behind (and the average win and loss).
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Zcore13
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March 23rd, 2021 at 8:52:46 AM permalink
Quote: Wellbush

Ah, I should have read the rules, not for selling, but appearing to be. I should have also posted my thread under betting systems, too. Whoops.

This is probably not the site for me. I genuinely believe I'm on to something but it appears the Wizard doesn't care for such topics, so I'll move on. Cheers



Yes, please move on. You're system doesn't work and your 4 months has been wasted.


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I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
charliepatrick
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March 23rd, 2021 at 9:19:18 AM permalink
Quote: Wellbush

Ah, I should have read the rules, not for selling, but appearing to be. I should have also posted my thread under betting systems, too. Whoops.

This is probably not the site for me. I genuinely believe I'm on to something but it appears the Wizard doesn't care for such topics, so I'll move on. Cheers

If you said you'd invented a perpetual motion machine people might reasonably be suspicious.

Many mathematicians would also be very suspect of methods to beat casino games which have a House Edge without resorting to counting cards, seeing unknown cards (e.g. dealer's down card), card or ball tracking, Martingale and similar betting methods.

Sometimes one can make a "profit" if one factors in benefits that might come from promotions, collecting points, receiving free hotels nights etc.

Also mathematically, given enough people, some will come ahead in the medium to long term.


Remember this forum encourages discussion, so if you think you might have stumbled across the "beauty quark" of Blackjack, we would love to hear all about it.
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March 23rd, 2021 at 9:19:43 AM permalink
I used to refer betting system believers to John Patrick's forum, which is now defunct.

Where is a moderated forum that welcomes such discussion these days?
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lilredrooster
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March 23rd, 2021 at 10:02:56 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I used to refer betting system believers to John Patrick's forum, which is now defunct.

Where is a moderated forum that welcomes such discussion these days?





gamblingforums.com

all kinds of true believers there

typical systems stuff - variations of the martingale - scoping out patterns is very big now - stop losses, stop wins, betting streaks will end, betting streaks will continue,, the patience system - starting your marty against Bank after Bank has already won 5 in a row

95% of the systems players there claim to be long term winners

they all have a system they swear up and down is the holy grail

they just can't prove it

surprise.................surprise..................surprise




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March 23rd, 2021 at 10:39:58 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I used to refer betting system believers to John Patrick's forum, which is now defunct.

Where is a moderated forum that welcomes such discussion these days?

No need to send the OP to competing sites. What have they done to deserve that?

This site has the knowledge and experience to put these questions to rest. Consider it a public service to humanity.
Take care out there. Spare a thought for the newly poor who were happy in their world just a few days ago, but whose whole way of life just collapsed..

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