ChumpChange
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January 29th, 2020 at 12:06:07 AM permalink
I'm down about $600 total. My plan is to buy-in with $200, win 20 bets and I'll be at $800 and I can pay that $600 loan from myself back. But I've gotta get up early on a weekday because they raise the table minimums when I walk in the door now.
NewtoTown
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January 29th, 2020 at 8:33:28 AM permalink
What are the table minimums raised to when you walk in? Are you in LV?
ChumpChange
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January 29th, 2020 at 9:20:53 AM permalink
No, I'm nowhere near LV, and I won't be unless I become a potential whale. The table minimums at my local casino are $5, $10, and $15 for craps and they phase out the $5 when the first table gets full in the morning, but I can be grandfathered in at the higher amount but most people walk away within an hour. If I have enough of a buy-in I could hang around for an extra 3-4 hours. If the minimums are already raised I have to drive an hour or more to find another casino. The Blackjack tables used to be $5, $10, or $15 18 months ago, but now they're $25. The Baccarat tables are $25 or $50. So I've really gotta win several thousand dollars before I play other games at higher minimums. If I wanted to play on a $25 Baccarat Table, I'd need a 25 hand $1000 buy-in and win 30 hands to get to $8,000. I'd probably repeat that until I won $150,000 then I might venture into cashing out at over $10,000.
NewtoTown
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January 29th, 2020 at 11:37:54 AM permalink
I have heard they still have $10 Craps games in downtown LV, would that be correct?

I have to be able to work your system to understand this, but this is very interesting:

"I'd need a 25 hand $1000 buy-in and win 30 hands to get to $8,000."

You're saying that with a $1,000 buy-in it might be possible to make $8,000?

What is the likelihood of losing three or four $1,000 buy-ins in a row?

Have you ever lost 4 buy-ins in a row prior to making back at least 1 or 2 of the buy-ins?

In other words, I think you mentioned you are using a $200 buy in. Have you ever been down $800 in total before making back some of the buy-ins?

Also, what is the most you have ever been up prior to going back down? I think you mentioned you have been down $600 before (although I may have read that incorrectly).

I'd really like to learn how to do what you are doing if I have a chance to turn a $1,000 into $8,000 but still need to work it out, which I will try this evening following your instructions as best I can.

Thanks again for the insight you are providing.
ChumpChange
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January 29th, 2020 at 12:03:24 PM permalink
I've played a lot on WinCraps and I only get beginner's luck on that because it becomes a deadly "point 7-outer" when it gets bored of my betting. I've had a big win on a 3 point Molly with 3X odds, but eventually the machine went stone cold and I lost my many thousands. I've won big on Don't Pass with 3X odds at higher stakes, and I just amended that strategy to go to the PL after two Odds losses on the Don't side.

In a casino, with $6 starting bets I can win $60 with 6 wins in a row on the Pass Line with a progression. But waiting my turn to shoot really drains my rail sometimes. So I've had my best come-backs by betting the Don't Come on a 5 count system. Make a DC bet on the 4th, 9th, and 14th roll counting the shooter establishing a point as roll #1. I'd have 2-3 DC bets up at most.

My computer Baccarat game is giving me a hard time. I've got to figure out whether I want to do progressions for like a dozen wins in a row, or whether I'd be OK with just increasing my bet by double every 10 hands ahead. Like bet $30, win 5 hands, raise bet to $45, win 5 hands, raise bet to $60, etc.
ChumpChange
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January 29th, 2020 at 12:27:54 PM permalink
Quote: NewtoTown

I have heard they still have $10 Craps games in downtown LV, would that be correct?

I have to be able to work your system to understand this, but this is very interesting:

"I'd need a 25 hand $1000 buy-in and win 30 hands to get to $8,000."

You're saying that with a $1,000 buy-in it might be possible to make $8,000?

What is the likelihood of losing three or four $1,000 buy-ins in a row?

Have you ever lost 4 buy-ins in a row prior to making back at least 1 or 2 of the buy-ins?



If I win to $8,000, I'll have eight 25 hand buy-ins (200 hands) of $1,000 each. Yes, it's possible to lose sessions, it's win goals or bust. Winning to $4,000 by winning 20 bets would be a more attainable win goal, but it's a gamble if I'll get to $8,000, or $0.
NewtoTown
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January 29th, 2020 at 2:25:17 PM permalink
Thanks again for the reply. I was wondering if I started with a $200 buy-in then lost that and went to a $400 buy-in, then lost that, to $800 buy-in, $1600 buy-in and lastly a $3200 buy-in... have you ever seen 5 buy-ins lost before doubling the buy-in?

This would be kind of like a Martingale on the buy-ins... one buy-in doubling needed to recoup all losses plus a $200 profit.
ChumpChange
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January 29th, 2020 at 2:40:44 PM permalink
I would lose 7 sessions before thinking about doubling my buy-in to catch up. Streaks happen.
SiegfriedRoy
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NewtoTown
January 29th, 2020 at 4:43:22 PM permalink
Quote: NewtoTown

I have heard they still have $10 Craps games in downtown LV, would that be correct?



They have plenty of $10 and $5 craps in Downtown LV.
NewtoTown
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January 30th, 2020 at 12:16:58 AM permalink
That's good to know! Most appreciated.

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