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sabre
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April 3rd, 2021 at 5:04:48 PM permalink
Yup. 51 straight. I must be psychic. Congrats.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 5:13:35 PM permalink
Yes we had a cruise set for sometime in 2020, but the Pandemic intervened. Ended up just letting the casino's voucher burn without using it. Maybe we could have extended it into 2021, but weren't interested in getting on a ship these days. And yes, the independent host friend of mine is constantly trying to get me to go to Atlantis and other such casinos in the Bahamas or neighboring areas. However, while my wife enjoys these Vegas vacations, although not as much as I do, she wouldn't be too crazy about extending the gaming into other destinations.

The way I play to win, it's work. I enjoy it, but it's not exactly a relaxing vacation in Kauai or anything like that.

I report online only my Vegas trips. While last year that is in fact the principle place to which we traveled (although there were a couple vacations elsewhere), in a typical year we travel to a lot more places domestic and international than just Vegas, and not for any casino play. Vegas is currently the only place I game.


You mention not being geographically tied down. True, but I need reliable internet both for my stock trading and occasional virtual court appearances. My businesses I may direct remotely too, but still, I need internet access for a lot of things. When the internet has been spotty at these resorts, I have complained mightily.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 5:47:26 PM permalink
Great reading and you see who's overzealous and who's over jealous it literally shows.

One of the best threads I've read and I read most all of them.

Some people really don't even bother to think before they type!

But hey, it is the way you read it all, right?
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April 3rd, 2021 at 5:59:27 PM permalink
A casino surveillance guy who has handcuffs as his avatar (figures)

A lawyer whose biggest case to date seems to be a case bet.

A coach who answers most questions with questions.

Just saying!
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April 3rd, 2021 at 6:46:43 PM permalink
I watched that Satan's Touch movie, now I'm watching Mississippi Grind on Prime and I'm down $3.99.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 7:10:54 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

A casino surveillance guy who has handcuffs as his avatar (figures)

A lawyer whose biggest case to date seems to be a case bet.

A coach who answers most questions with questions.

Just saying!



They are both part of Dawgs defense team.

Avatar=Handcuffs

Name rhymes with Marsha Clark who just happened to be
66 years old when Marcus signed on.

MDawg = Attorney

I can keep going but its boring now no mystery left.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 7:38:49 PM permalink
An agreement has been negotiated between MDawg and Kewlj. Here are the terms, which both parties have agreed to.

1. This thread has been moved to the "Betting Systems" category.
2. Kewlj will stay out of this thread. He may not comment on it in other threads. If Mdawg posts in another thread, Kewlj may address that post only wherever it may be located.

I will be enforcing this agreement. However, I trust both parties to be men of their words and go their separate ways.
ďExtraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.Ē -- Carl Sagan
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April 3rd, 2021 at 7:44:16 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

An agreement has been negotiated between MDawg and Kewlj. Here are the terms, which both parties have agreed to.

1. This thread has been moved to the "Betting Systems" category.
2. Kewlj will stay out of this thread. He may not comment on it in other threads. If Mdawg posts in another thread, Kewlj may address that post only wherever it may be located.

I will be enforcing this agreement. However, I trust both parties to be men of their words and go their separate ways.



Positive outcome. But underwhelming after the MDawg teaser post.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 8:19:39 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard



1. This thread has been moved to the "Betting Systems" category.
.

THAT'S A GREAT MOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 3rd, 2021 at 8:33:43 PM permalink
I got all my Baccarat betting systems while reading & writing in this thread.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 8:56:01 PM permalink
The move of this thread to the Betting Systems was done via mutual agreement between the Wizard and myself.

---

About a week after arriving in Vegas, at the point where I was 44K ahead, I contacted the Wizard via PM here at the forum. I proposed that we meet on the Strip at the casino at which I had/have been playing, to verify the following:

(1) That I was in fact ahead at least the dollar amount claimed.
(2) That I do have a credit line of X dollars at the casino I am playing at.

I envisioned that we would walk into the general hostís office and ask the host on duty to verify the above, and as well to any pit boss station to verify the same. If the Wizard had some other way he felt that the win could be verified, I was fine with that too. I offered to buy the Wizard lunch (compíed for me, but still, on me) and to cover his parking expenses if we meet at a casino where parking is not free.

I did not offer to have Wizard watch any of my play. I donít like to play other than alone, and if you have followed some of my trip reports, you know that there are times when serious money is in play and I am down before coming back ahead, and I donít need the extra pressure of someoneís presence when dollars such as these are at stake. I donít have a problem with taking Wizard to a table and pulling a marker and playing a few hands, but when I play I play for real and not for show, and I donít need or want the added pressure of having to perform during a fixed time period. This is not a game to me, I have never viewed casino play as anything other than a business proposition like any other.

The Wizard agreed, but responded that he was busy and couldnít meet until April 11th. He stated that it was all right with him to disclose that I had proposed this meeting, but I declined, I told him that I didnít want to just talk about our meeting, but to actually do it.


Since my original PM I have been PMíing the Wizard regularly, and asking if we could meet sooner. The Wizard let me know that he did go to the opening of the new Virgin Vegas casino March 25th, but didnít have time to see me. I proposed meeting last week, but the Wizard informed me that he would be out of town. I proposed that we meet tomorrow, but the Wizard has other plans tomorrow. At any point where we would have met or will meet, whatever dollar amount I am ahead, as reported at WOV, could have been or will be verified.

Finally, today, the Wizard informed me that
ďI am still looking for any excuse to come out to the Strip, but just can't find any. I am happy to meet you, but don't think it will prove anything. I do not dispute you play and are winning.Ē
and we agreed that since we may not even be meeting anytime soon, that I should go ahead and disclose what has been discussed and going on.

I am currently approximately $81,000 ahead and have been in Vegas continuously gaming as reported precisely in my trip reports.

The offer to meet the Wizard under the above terms remains, and the original PM I sent to him is posted below.

I will be returning to posting trip reports without commenting further on most of your posts, as I have been doing for some time.

Last edited by: MDawg on Apr 3, 2021
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April 3rd, 2021 at 9:05:13 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

This thread has been moved to the "Betting Systems" category.



What's the significance of moving the thread?

What category was it in before the move?
ChumpChange
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April 3rd, 2021 at 9:10:48 PM permalink
Somebody's parking isn't getting validated.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 9:15:14 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

What's the significance of moving the thread?

What category was it in before the move?



This thread was in Trip Reports and had just short of 4,000 replies, just short of 400 pages, and just short of 200,000 views before it was moved.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 9:21:22 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

About a week after arriving in Vegas, at the point where I was 44K ahead, I contacted the Wizard via PM here at the forum. I proposed that we meet on the Strip at the casino at which I had/have been playing



So after constantly being accused of refusing to meet the Wizard,
including such accusations made earlier today,
as it turns out you had already reached out to the Wizard to arrange a meeting?

Is that for REAL ?

You showed great restraint and REAL character by not revealing that before now,
considering the abuse you've been subjected to all along.

Does reaching out to the Wizard indicate that your claims are REAL?

Quote: WOV member

Mdawg should have jumped at the chance to prove himself and have one of
the most respected casino math experts validate him.....IF his claims were real!

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April 3rd, 2021 at 9:24:09 PM permalink
I've been sitting on my hands with this knowledge of this Wizard meet up for weeks now. I would have preferred to just DO IT rather than talk about it, but this is where we are at today.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 9:31:13 PM permalink
If the Wizard is a mafia hitman, you might not want to meet him, idk.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 9:31:24 PM permalink
Stand up, MDawg. I applaud this move of yours. Keep doing your thing.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 9:39:01 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

The move of this thread to the Betting Systems was done via mutual agreement between the Wizard and myself.

---

About a week after arriving in Vegas, at the point where I was 44K ahead, I contacted the Wizard via PM here at the forum. I proposed that we meet on the Strip at the casino at which I had/have been playing, to verify the following:

(1) That I was in fact ahead at least the dollar amount claimed.
(2) That I do have a credit line of X dollars at the casino I am playing at.

I envisioned that we would walk into the general hostís office and ask the host on duty to verify the above, and as well to any pit boss station to verify the same. If the Wizard had some other way he felt that the win could be verified, I was fine with that too. I offered to buy the Wizard lunch (compíed for me, but still, on me) and to cover his parking expenses if we meet at a casino where parking is not free.

I did not offer to have Wizard watch any of my play. I donít like to play other than alone, and if you have followed some of my trip reports, you know that there are times when serious money is in play and I am down before coming back ahead, and I donít need the extra pressure of someoneís presence when dollars such as these are at stake. I donít have a problem with taking Wizard to a table and pulling a marker and playing a few hands, but when I play I play for real and not for show, and I donít need or want the added pressure of having to perform during a fixed time period. This is not a game to me, I have never viewed casino play as anything other than a business proposition like any other.

The Wizard agreed, but responded that he was busy and couldnít meet until April 11th. He stated that it was all right with him to disclose that I had proposed this meeting, but I declined, I told him that I didnít want to just talk about our meeting, but to actually do it.


Since my original PM I have been PMíing the Wizard regularly, and asking if we could meet sooner. The Wizard let me know that he did go to the opening of the new Virgin Vegas casino March 25th, but didnít have time to see me. I proposed meeting last week, but the Wizard informed me that he would be out of town. I proposed that we meet tomorrow, but the Wizard has other plans tomorrow. At any point where we would have met or will meet, whatever dollar amount I am ahead, as reported at WOV, could have been or will be verified.

Finally, today, the Wizard informed me that
ďI am still looking for any excuse to come out to the Strip, but just can't find any. I am happy to meet you, but don't think it will prove anything. I do not dispute you play and are winning.Ē
and we agreed that since we may not even be meeting anytime soon, that I should go ahead and disclose what has been discussed and going on.

I am currently approximately $81,000 ahead and have been in Vegas continuously gaming as reported precisely in my trip reports.

The offer to meet the Wizard under the above terms remains, and the original PM I sent to him is posted below.

I will be returning to posting trip reports without commenting further on most of your posts, as I have been doing for some time.



After all this, what will the math community have to say? That MD is a magician and pulls his winnings out of his unseen hat? Now that is a true statement because MDís winnings are mathematically impossible!

Another thing. Remember before card counting was a thing? Say if that was kept secret by the originator? The originator kept using it and making millions from it. He/she kept using it and only shared the strategy with a family member as he got old and was close to death?

What would get the most return? Media stories about gambling success, or generations of gambling success? There are plenty of reasons for MD to keep things close to his chest, not to mention the lunatics who may front, harass and try to steal
All persons reading my posts gamble at their own risk, as I do. I don't ordinarily dispute math. I may dispute math I don't understand, or if I think it's faulty. I am not a conspiracy theorist.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 9:47:22 PM permalink
Watching Timecop - S01: E08.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 10:04:55 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

The move of this thread to the Betting Systems was done via mutual agreement between the Wizard and myself.

---

About a week after arriving in Vegas, at the point where I was 44K ahead, I contacted the Wizard via PM here at the forum. I proposed that we meet on the Strip at the casino at which I had/have been playing, to verify the following:

(1) That I was in fact ahead at least the dollar amount claimed.
(2) That I do have a credit line of X dollars at the casino I am playing at.

I envisioned that we would walk into the general hostís office and ask the host on duty to verify the above, and as well to any pit boss station to verify the same. If the Wizard had some other way he felt that the win could be verified, I was fine with that too. I offered to buy the Wizard lunch (compíed for me, but still, on me) and to cover his parking expenses if we meet at a casino where parking is not free.

I did not offer to have Wizard watch any of my play. I donít like to play other than alone, and if you have followed some of my trip reports, you know that there are times when serious money is in play and I am down before coming back ahead, and I donít need the extra pressure of someoneís presence when dollars such as these are at stake. I donít have a problem with taking Wizard to a table and pulling a marker and playing a few hands, but when I play I play for real and not for show, and I donít need or want the added pressure of having to perform during a fixed time period. This is not a game to me, I have never viewed casino play as anything other than a business proposition like any other.

The Wizard agreed, but responded that he was busy and couldnít meet until April 11th. He stated that it was all right with him to disclose that I had proposed this meeting, but I declined, I told him that I didnít want to just talk about our meeting, but to actually do it.


Since my original PM I have been PMíing the Wizard regularly, and asking if we could meet sooner. The Wizard let me know that he did go to the opening of the new Virgin Vegas casino March 25th, but didnít have time to see me. I proposed meeting last week, but the Wizard informed me that he would be out of town. I proposed that we meet tomorrow, but the Wizard has other plans tomorrow. At any point where we would have met or will meet, whatever dollar amount I am ahead, as reported at WOV, could have been or will be verified.

Finally, today, the Wizard informed me that
ďI am still looking for any excuse to come out to the Strip, but just can't find any. I am happy to meet you, but don't think it will prove anything. I do not dispute you play and are winning.Ē
and we agreed that since we may not even be meeting anytime soon, that I should go ahead and disclose what has been discussed and going on.

I am currently approximately $81,000 ahead and have been in Vegas continuously gaming as reported precisely in my trip reports.

The offer to meet the Wizard under the above terms remains, and the original PM I sent to him is posted below.

I will be returning to posting trip reports without commenting further on most of your posts, as I have been doing for some time.



I tell you it's wonderful to be here on this thread right now
All persons reading my posts gamble at their own risk, as I do. I don't ordinarily dispute math. I may dispute math I don't understand, or if I think it's faulty. I am not a conspiracy theorist.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 10:14:45 PM permalink
The wizard didnít meet up because of mdawg refused to allow him to watch play. Now that speaks volumes. Hopefully this thread doesnít show up on the recent threads . But the reality of the situation is originally mdawg wanted 50k or something if I recall correctly to be posted to watch him play. I attempted numerous times to post 50-100 to watch him play. He dodged every single post and pm
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April 3rd, 2021 at 10:18:28 PM permalink
Quote: Expectedvalue

The wizard didnít meet up because of mdawg refused to allow him to watch play.



That's not what he wrote in his PM, he wrote that he was happy with the conditions.

MDawg has you blocked, you are unacceptable to him...persona non grata.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 10:22:24 PM permalink
Quote: Expectedvalue

The wizard didnít meet up because of mdawg refused to allow him to watch play. Now that speaks volumes. Hopefully this thread doesnít show up on the recent threads . But the reality of the situation is originally mdawg wanted 50k or something if I recall correctly to be posted to watch him play. I attempted numerous times to post 50-100 to watch him play. He dodged every single post and pm



Showing up to watch, and showing up to prove the recent play showed a profit, are two different things. Why should MD let others steal his hard earned skill, and/or, as he says, distract him from winning?
All persons reading my posts gamble at their own risk, as I do. I don't ordinarily dispute math. I may dispute math I don't understand, or if I think it's faulty. I am not a conspiracy theorist.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 10:35:19 PM permalink
Quote: Wellbush

Showing up to watch, and showing up to prove the recent play showed a profit, are two different things. Why should MD let others steal his hard earned skill, and/or, as he says, distract him from winning?



Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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April 3rd, 2021 at 10:35:22 PM permalink
Duplicate hahahaha
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April 3rd, 2021 at 11:13:47 PM permalink
MDawg's claims were so unbelievable the Wizard didn't even want to waste his time. SMH!

Basically we can use this analogy:

Regular Joe: "I have perfected a perpetual motion machine"

Scientists:. "No such thing but if you have put up or shut up. Let's see this machine"

Regular Joe: "Sorry, you can't view it. But it saves me a ton of money and I can prove it by showing you my electric bills.

Scientists: "We don't have time to look at electric bills. Now showing us a perpetual motion machine is working is worth our time"

Regular Joe:"sorry I can't do that. Can't afford to have my idea stolen. Can we meet up to go over my electric bills"

Scientists:"Nothing will be proven with a meeting. We concede you save money on your electric bills. Good luck in life"

Believers:"Well there you go. If scientists didn't want to meet up and conceded he saves on his electric bill, that proves he has made a perpetual motion machine. Now everyone stop harassing the guy "
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April 3rd, 2021 at 11:23:03 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

MDawg's claims were so unbelievable the Wizard didn't even want to waste his time. SMH!

Basically we can use this analogy:

Regular Joe: "I have perfected a perpetual motion machine"

Scientists:. "No such thing but if you have put up or shut up. Let's see this machine"

Regular Joe: "Sorry, you can't view it. But it saves me a ton of money and I can prove it by showing you my electric bills.

Scientists: "We don't have time to look at electric bills. Now showing us a perpetual motion machine is working is worth our time"

Regular Joe:"sorry I can't do that. Can't afford to have my idea stolen. Can we meet up to go over my electric bills"

Scientists:"Nothing will be proven with a meeting. We concede you save money on your electric bills. Good luck in life"

Believers:"Well there you go. If scientists didn't want to meet up and conceded he saves on his electric bill, that proves he has made a perpetual motion machine. Now everyone stop harassing the guy "



Naysayers can't perpetually (like perpetual motion) say players can't beat the house, then have it proven to be false! Then in some enchanted way, say that what was proven is impossible!

I tell you it's wonderful to be here on this thread now man!
All persons reading my posts gamble at their own risk, as I do. I don't ordinarily dispute math. I may dispute math I don't understand, or if I think it's faulty. I am not a conspiracy theorist.
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April 3rd, 2021 at 11:40:05 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

MDawg's claims were so unbelievable the Wizard didn't even want to waste his time. SMH!

Basically we can use this analogy:

Regular Joe: "I have perfected a perpetual motion machine"

Scientists:. "No such thing but if you have put up or shut up. Let's see this machine"

Regular Joe: "Sorry, you can't view it. But it saves me a ton of money and I can prove it by showing you my electric bills.

Scientists: "We don't have time to look at electric bills. Now showing us a perpetual motion machine is working is worth our time"

Regular Joe:"sorry I can't do that. Can't afford to have my idea stolen. Can we meet up to go over my electric bills"

Scientists:"Nothing will be proven with a meeting. We concede you save money on your electric bills. Good luck in life"

Believers:"Well there you go. If scientists didn't want to meet up and conceded he saves on his electric bill, that proves he has made a perpetual motion machine. Now everyone stop harassing the guy "



The logic here is flawed when comparing it to MD's situation. Now MD's profits haven't been proven yet, granted. We need MD and the Wiz to show up as agreed. What would also be helpful is if the Wiz were able to ask (may need MD's permission?) one or more casinos, if they knew if MD went away with a profit most of the time, and overall (to make sure there were no large catastrophic losses putting him in the red, overall), whether MD was a long-term winner? The answer to those extra qs would be much more helpful than a one-off profit or loss, at their meeting.
Last edited by: Wellbush on Apr 4, 2021
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April 4th, 2021 at 1:01:18 AM permalink
For those who dont know, casino wins can be easily manipulated. I would be more than happy to demonstrate this.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 4th, 2021 at 3:25:41 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

MDawg's claims were so unbelievable the Wizard didn't even want to waste his time. SMH!

Basically we can use this analogy:

Regular Joe: "I have perfected a perpetual motion machine"

Scientists:. "No such thing but if you have put up or shut up. Let's see this machine"

Regular Joe: "Sorry, you can't view it. But it saves me a ton of money and I can prove it by showing you my electric bills.

Scientists: "We don't have time to look at electric bills. Now showing us a perpetual motion machine is working is worth our time"

Regular Joe:"sorry I can't do that. Can't afford to have my idea stolen. Can we meet up to go over my electric bills"

Scientists:"Nothing will be proven with a meeting. We concede you save money on your electric bills. Good luck in life"

Believers:"Well there you go. If scientists didn't want to meet up and conceded he saves on his electric bill, that proves he has made a perpetual motion machine. Now everyone stop harassing the guy "



For DOz to use the analogy correctly, he/she would have to use it like this:

Regular Joe: "I am saving money on my electricity bill using a special machine."

Scientist: "Let me evaluate the machine, otherwise I won't believe you."

RJ: "I can't let you see the machine, but you can observe whether I am getting electricity reduction from some other source besides my machine."

Scientist: "No, I need to see your machine because I cannot cope with the reality of your results, without actually seeing how it works!"
All persons reading my posts gamble at their own risk, as I do. I don't ordinarily dispute math. I may dispute math I don't understand, or if I think it's faulty. I am not a conspiracy theorist.
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April 4th, 2021 at 3:31:08 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

For those who dont know, casino wins can be easily manipulated. I would be more than happy to demonstrate this.



Why is it you are so drawn to this thread?

Why?

Why don't you just stay out of it? Seriously dude?

All you do is seemingly tossing in your monkey wrenches trying for some things to magically get rid of MDawg and his large following you are obviously IMO quite upset over. Why? IMO you should just block this #1 thread of the forum!

Everything said herein is IMO and meant only to out the so obvious 'going ons' that you skim and skirt around just coming out to admit MDawg has accomplished what so many dream of doing but failed to ever do.

So your ONE LINE ATTACK OF: 'CRUDE ACCUSATIONS' Against MDawg imo sucks!
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April 4th, 2021 at 3:46:12 AM permalink
Almost 400 pages! And 3975Replies197037Views. This is the #1 thread! Huge numbers dude! Getting larger and stronger! I am ending my night and on the way to tgedisrespect county jail to sign the charges against 7 people that were arrested earlier in the evening for everything from domestic fights on our casino floor to criminal trespass. Let's do this. Love, Marcus Clark. ( and yes that's my real name, ROMAFL!)
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April 4th, 2021 at 4:31:59 AM permalink
MarcusClark, I appreciate the effort but all that becomes apparent is that not everyone here has played table games, knows how they work, or has played at the level I play at - meaning that any statements made are to be ignored. You know that a person playing 17 sessions documented as ahead really is ahead, but that is because you're actually in the business. It would seem that we're talking about low level slots players here when it comes to the most vocal critics in this thread.

At the end of all this, assuming I keep winning, I can verify the win via a combination of cash and casino issued checks. When this is all over, we may go to the casino cages and verify that the checks were issued for verified wins. There is no way to manipulate wins as recorded by dozens of pit bosses across weeks of play, and if there were, I'd sure like to figure out how to do that because it would save me a lot of grief and effort and risk at the tables just to wind up with a measly 🙂 $81,000. to the good.

Probably taking a break today from play to enjoy the great outdoors of Vegas. The real question is not, is MDawg ahead, you bet he is, but why is he still sticking around Vegas. When I first arrived here a friend of mine declared that I would win $250,000., but the reality is that it could go from +81,000. to something less than that in an instant. I hope not, and based on my track record it should keep increasing, but, anyway, we're still going to be here a while longer. The comps keep flowing and the wins keep happening so you can't expect me to want to leave yet.

Again, you must understand, this isn't something that some of these people have any real understanding of, and by commenting negatively, some just make their casino knowledge appear all the more flawed. I am holding eighty one grand of winnings, and I am sure the casinos would love for that to not be the case, but the reality is what it is. At this moment, I have 81,000 more dollars than when we arrived in Vegas and it is all due to Baccarat wins. The fact that I have to keep saying that in more than one way should show you what kind of audience some of these people represent, that I choose to Ignore.
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April 4th, 2021 at 5:37:02 AM permalink
The "problem" with showing cash and checks as "proof" is that no one knows what or how much you originally bet.

I can show you photos and W2Gs of royal flushes worth $4k, $20k and even $100k yet I have net losses.

I can show you thousands of dollars of chips from table play at craps, but this is meaningless unless you knew what my buy-ins were.

Frankly your net results are of no interest to me. But what I am interested in knowing is your method of winning.
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April 4th, 2021 at 5:45:54 AM permalink
Hi Alan, in case you didn't know, I am a table games only, credit line player. I do not "buy in" with anything other than credit I draw against a casino issued line. While it happens occasionally that the pit boss might miss a few hundred plus or minus, or even a thousand plus or minus, when a credit line player draws a certain amount and then leaves the table they know exactly what was won or lost, and when I go to the cage to cash my chips or get a check for them the cage won't even give me the cash or check unless the pit boss has verified the win including that all markers were paid back. I have gotten away with cashing small amounts without having them verify that my line is clear (What would be the point anyway in cashing a chip when I still owe the casino money on my line? I don't do that and never would), but no casino will issue a winning check, especially not in the dollar amounts I have won, unless my line is clear and the win is verified.

And I tried to meet with the Wizard to verify that what I am posting is true. By verification of the wins from any host's station or pit boss station (or directly at the cage via verification of winning checks).

One thing is odd, that a couple people are making something of that I don't care to have the Wizard watch me play. I actually don't mind his watching me play a little, as stated, but in any case what does that prove? What if he watches me play on a day where I end up in the hole and then have to get out of it? Or watches me play on a day when I win easily? That proves just that I play. Nothing more. Some of my sessions are an hour, some are many hours. Have you followed and read my session reports?

What is important is proving that I have won. Won is a past tense verb.
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April 4th, 2021 at 6:08:09 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Hi Alan, in case you didn't know, I am a credit line player. I do not "buy in" with anything other than credit I draw against a casino issued line. While it happens occasionally that the pit boss might miss a few hundred plus or minus, or even a thousand plus or minus, when a credit line player draws a certain amount and then leaves the table they know exactly what was won or lost, and when I go to the cage to cash my chips or get a check for them the cage won't even give me the cash or check unless the pit boss has verified the win including that all markers were paid back. I have gotten away with cashing small amounts without having them verify that my line is clear (What would be the point anyway in cashing a chip when I still owe the casino money on my line? I don't do that and never would), but no casino will issue a winning check, especially not in the dollar amounts I have won, unless my line is clear and the win is verified.

And I tried to meet with the Wizard to verify that what I am posting is true. By verification of the wins from any host's station or pit boss station (or directly at the cage via verification of winning checks).

One thing is odd, that a couple people are making something of that I don't care to have the Wizard watch me play. I actually don't mind his watching me play a little, as stated, but in any case what does that prove? What if he watches me play on a day where I end up in the hole and then have to get out of it? Or watches me play on a day when I win easily? That proves just that I play. Nothing more. Some of my sessions are an hour, some are many hours. Have you followed and read my session reports?

What is important is proving that I have won. Won is a past tense verb.



Agreed MD. You just need to provide proof that you're a long-term winner. But Alan wants your playing method!
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April 4th, 2021 at 6:17:34 AM permalink
The Wizard stated that, I do not dispute you play and are winning. I invite him to step in here and clarify further, or to meet with me. I am still in Vegas and ready.


In any case, what's important to me is that I won. Otherwise, what are we doing out here in the middle of the desert anyway? Proving it is secondary to winning.
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April 4th, 2021 at 6:25:21 AM permalink
I dont object or question that you won either. But anyone can win. The only thing that matters is how you win.

By the way, whether you use cash or markers to buy into a game we still dont know what your buyins were. You can show us whatever you want and that proves nothing. Sorry, but that's the reality.
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April 4th, 2021 at 6:32:43 AM permalink
No, the reality is that by saying what you are saying, it means you don't know how any of this works. I gave you the benefit of the doubt for a minute, but I'll probably not be responding to you further. I've wasted enough time in the past on this forum with people who don't know what they are talking about. Trying to avoid that now.

You're a CASH player. A credit line player can't remove anything significant from the casino unless it represents an actual win.


Unless you're getting at...how much I pulled to win what I won? If that is the question, that is something. If so, just read the session reports. It is all there.
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April 4th, 2021 at 6:38:35 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

I dont object or question that you won either. But anyone can win. The only thing that matters is how you win.

By the way, whether you use cash or markers to buy into a game we still dont know what your buyins were. You can show us whatever you want and that proves nothing. Sorry, but that's the reality.



Actually, there are very few who can win over any length of time.
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April 4th, 2021 at 6:44:13 AM permalink
Plus, he doesn't seem to understand that a credit line player can't remove anything significant from the casino unless it represents an actual win.
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April 4th, 2021 at 6:45:46 AM permalink
Mdawg if you win congratulations. But who cares? I dont.

The only thing I care about is if your methodology works for me.

This is why I've pretty much ignored your posts. They mean nothing.

You think you're the only winner? You're not.

But the other winners can tell you how they win. You won't. So go in peace.
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April 4th, 2021 at 6:48:06 AM permalink
Fair enough, thank you.
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April 4th, 2021 at 6:49:03 AM permalink
Quote: Wellbush

Actually, there are very few who can win over any length of time.



Ití is INCREDIBLY EASY, to both show fake wins and fake losses.... even the irs knows this and therefore itís one of many reasons they do not take casino win loss reports for proof on an audit.
Just because you say you win means. Nothing. The point that you pull 8k markers is slightly off. The fact that yo brag comes across as obnoxious. You spin one way that the wizard was ok with your terms and coach belly defends it, but the reality of the situation is that he sees no point in meeting you because he wasnít watching you play. I was at the Wynn for the last 8 days. I checked morning noon and night . There is zero chance I ran into you. I also checked periodically at Bellagio and Cosmo and Venetian , never saw anyone that could be you. Your mathematics defy common sense logic. Your bragging could be construed as rude . Even your screen name is a needle. What respectable lawyer calls themself dawg, the only person I can even slightly relate you to is don mfer (yes he calls himself that) Johnson. And you see he is banned from
Everywhere. You also say you look for short wins, You push the floor people and ask your average bet. Another very amateurish move. You come and you make claims in this forum insulting the mathematics behind it. You insult Axel and kewlj both members who multiple people know have made a living in casinos. You love the attention and made your own forum to brag further. At the end of the day my opinion is itís all fantasy. There was plenty you could have done to prove you were real but yet you chose to not. That speaks volumes
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April 4th, 2021 at 7:11:43 AM permalink
Just a few things I do want them to improve across the board. One has to do with take out food. The other is to enforce the masks better at the casino gyms. The third is to keep the internet working better.

Otherwise, it's a beautiful sunny day in Vegas we're fully RFB and ahead 81K. As I said to anyone who would listen the other day after I won the ten K hand on Player, Any questions?
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April 4th, 2021 at 7:19:29 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

MarcusClark, I appreciate the effort but all that becomes apparent is that not everyone here has played table games, knows how they work, or has played at the level I play at - meaning that any statements made are to be ignored. You know that a person playing 17 sessions documented as ahead really is ahead, but that is because you're actually in the business. It would seem that we're talking about low level slots players here when it comes to the most vocal critics in this thread.

At the end of all this, assuming I keep winning, I can verify the win via a combination of cash and casino issued checks. When this is all over, we may go to the casino cages and verify that the checks were issued for verified wins. There is no way to manipulate wins as recorded by dozens of pit bosses across weeks of play, and if there were, I'd sure like to figure out how to do that because it would save me a lot of grief and effort and risk at the tables just to wind up with a measly 🙂 $81,000. to the good.

Probably taking a break today from play to enjoy the great outdoors of Vegas. The real question is not, is MDawg ahead, you bet he is, but why is he still sticking around Vegas. When I first arrived here a friend of mine declared that I would win $250,000., but the reality is that it could go from +81,000. to something less than that in an instant. I hope not, and based on my track record it should keep increasing, but, anyway, we're still going to be here a while longer. The comps keep flowing and the wins keep happening so you can't expect me to want to leave yet.

Again, you must understand, this isn't something that some of these people have any real understanding of, and by commenting negatively, some just make their casino knowledge appear all the more flawed. I am holding eighty one grand of winnings, and I am sure the casinos would love for that to not be the case, but the reality is what it is. At this moment, I have 81,000 more dollars than when we arrived in Vegas and it is all due to Baccarat wins. The fact that I have to keep saying that in more than one way should show you what kind of audience some of these people represent, that I choose to Ignore.



I'm not going to get into all the particulars about table game play. I can talk about some of them from the casino industry side and not from the consumer side. What MDawg is saying is, in my opinion and also that in my professional opinion that is definitive in proper casino gaming regulations that's pretty much Country-Wide with the minimums and maximums and slight variances being different from property to property and state to state, he is spot-on.

There is a huge difference in cash buy in on the main floor non credit line play and higher line credit line play at all properties. What he is describing is meticulously correct, I kid you not. If you have to challenge it you shouldn't even be involved in the thread. I'll leave it at that.

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April 4th, 2021 at 9:05:49 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Basically we can use this analogy:



No need for analogies, as we have the actual conversation in front of us,
and the written words of the Wizard do not confirm your hypothesis.
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April 4th, 2021 at 9:09:35 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

For those who dont know, casino wins can be easily manipulated. I would be more than happy to demonstrate this.



When?

And when are you going to catch up with the rest of your list
of other things you said that you would demonstrate?

You haven't posted anything that you said you would.
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April 4th, 2021 at 9:20:07 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

The only thing that matters is how you win.



The only thing that matters to whom?

Why wouldn't the casino's records of net wins prove net wins?

Don't they consider any buy-ins and paid markers when calculating net wins?

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