Quote: kewljOn "pressing charges" and trying to get others suspended: Today, I asked Mike for a ruling and if he agrees that the pictures were posted to be misleading, to consider issuing a penalty. And I did so publicly for transparency. Other than that I have NEVER contacted Mike privately and asked or suggest that anyone be suspended. Can Mdawg say the same or can you who speaks for Mdawg say the same? How many times has Mdawg requested members be suspended? I'll bet right now neither of you will answer.
As far as challenging a members claims, as I have said, there are many members that make claims, that I say to myself, that is likely not true. I only publicly challenge claims that 1.) defy math, meaning impossible or for those that like to say something is possible with ridiculously long odds, I will say "nearly" impossible. And 2) if the person continues to repeat the claim after numerous members tell them it can't be.
This repeating is a common troll tactic (and that is not calling anyone a troll). The theory is that you repeat the lie or claim enough and it becomes accepted as fact. So when someone is told their claim just can't be and their response is to come back and repeat the claim and repeat the claim, I am going to continue to challenge it.
I don't speak for MD. I just speak. I'm not answering the questions about MD's history for any reason other than I'm not the centre of the universe.
I challenge MDawg to allow Mike to be honest and tell us if and how many times he had made complaints to Mike or other moderators requesting action be taken. I have asked Mdawg about this before and he continually doesn't answer. Put up an O/U number and let's make a bet. If it's less than 20 Ill take a suspension for 1 month here and the other forum. If I win you do the same.Quote: coachbellyMembers should get a fixed amount of challenges.
If a challenge is upheld, then you get that challenge back.
If not, then you lose that challenge and receive a short suspension.
If you lose your last challenge, then you lose the ability to post anymore.
That's the only way to keep members from making frivolous challenges,
constantly "pressing charges" and trying to get other members suspended.
Quote: MDawgPeople are starting to let loose and party in Vegas, at least at some of the resorts!
Why not! 😆
5.5 billion to one doesn't fit into most people's boxes. Not to mention, encouraging people to waste their money on potentially dangerous vitamins.Quote: WellbushIt's blatantly obvious you're genuine, MD. It's just that your results don't laterally fit into some naysayer's boxes
Quote: coachbelly
Other than that,
I haven't been counting but I'm guessing he's won over 100 sessions in a row
what do you think coach?
think he can keep going and win 500 sessions in a row?
do tell
share your knowledge with us........................................................thanks
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Quote: MDawgPeople are starting to let loose and party in Vegas, at least at some of the resorts!
That’s good. If I make the trip out there I want it to ‘feel normal’ for me. Possibly November. By then all who wanted should have been vaccinated. Of course I haven’t ‘let loose and party’ for decades, but I like knowing it is happening!
Quote: WellbushIt's blatantly obvious you're genuine, MD.
I believe he is claiming he is skilled at bacc...............that he's beating the house not with luck but with skill
if he had a system or method to beat a negative expectation game using betting based on streaks or some version of the martingale or reverse martingale in combination with streaks, or any other bet selection method ..............and he could prove it.......................𝙝𝙚 𝙬𝙤𝙪𝙡𝙙 𝙗𝙚 𝙬𝙤𝙧𝙡𝙙 𝙛𝙖𝙢𝙤𝙪𝙨...............more famous even than Kim Kardashian
although there are thousands promoting various types of these systems across the web 𝙣𝙤 𝙤𝙣𝙚 𝙝𝙖𝙨 𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧 𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙫𝙚𝙙 𝙨𝙪𝙘𝙝 𝙖 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙜
it would be 𝙤𝙣𝙚 𝙤𝙛 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙗𝙞𝙜𝙜𝙚𝙨𝙩 𝙣𝙚𝙬𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙤𝙧𝙞𝙚𝙨 𝙤𝙛 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙙𝙚𝙘𝙖𝙙𝙚
he didn't fully reveal his system(s) or method(s) to you - obviously he prefers punishing casinos to becoming world famous
but you get to follow along and watch what is......................𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗮𝗯𝗹𝘆 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗮𝗺𝗮𝘇𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝗴𝗮𝗺𝗯𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗴
lucky you...........
something you can tell your grandkids about -
you saw it happen....................................................................or almost saw it happen
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I woke up around 4am and could hear a girl yelling down the hall, so the partying must have continued into the night. I recall hearing the same sort of female cheering and yelling the night before too.
As far as take out as long as in a suite with a dining table which is pretty much all we get in Vegas, dining in room in our opinion is better than dining in the restaurant. Some items though are not available for take out depending on the restaurant's policy, for example oysters or at some restaurants, any kind of shellfish tower. Some restaurants have a policy where raw seafood may be taken out only if you have a room in the hotel. Policies vary. Of course you're not getting the full service and the food may be a tad colder by the time you start eating it, but given how many times we have dined in Vegas both this trip and that very long trip in Fall 2020, lowering the risk of contact with people is worth the negatives.
One thing you gotta do is hold on to a set of metal eating utensils after the first room service visit - those plastic utensils from take out don't cut it, especially for steaks, although some of the higher end restaurants such as the one I ordered from last night supply thicker, sturdier plastic utensils of the chrome colored variety.
Some Vegas hotels will bring the take out food to you from the restaurants, and for others this option is available only if you're in their highest roller suites for million dollar players with an assigned butler. For non million dollar suites such as the ones I get, sometimes I call in the order in advance and go down and pick it up right when it is ready, and other times I prefer to order in person and then walk around the casino and catch the casino vibe while waiting. Or I might spend the time waiting, on the phone with a friend.
Yes, Vegas is definitely making a comeback, hope it is sustained. I don't really want to see a lot of people at high limit though. I still prefer to play alone.
Quote: kewljTry page 371.
This is evidently the controversial post. Mdawg never said the picture was current. I assumed it to be a reference to a similar comment in Rounders, when Worm was trying to talk Mike into getting back into poker.
You've made it perfectly clear you don't believe Mdawg and don't especially like him either. I get it. Consider yourself warned your behavior of going after him so aggressively and persistently is trolling. May I make the radical suggestion of blocking Mdawg and staying out of this thread.
Quote: terapined
Two things. If you're going to wear Ralph Lauren, Purple Label only.
Second thing. There are exceptions. I just bought that yellow Rugby style long sleeve on the mannequin the other day here in Vegas. Haven’t even had a chance to wear it yet and somehow already got it dirty.
Quote: coachbellyHello terapined,
You may have violated forum protocol by presenting my quote from another thread
as a reply to Marcusclark66's post above in this thread.
I suspect this may result that your participation in your own thread
will be suspended for a few days...for REAL.
Was it worth it?
????????
You talking to me. You talking to Me.
Que Robert Deniro Taxi Driver :-)
Quote: WizardI assumed it to be a reference to a similar comment in Rounders, when Worm was trying to talk Mike into getting back into poker.
Brilliant. Exactly. At least one person got it.
Check raising stupid tourists and taking huge pots off 'em.
- Yeah? - Stacks and towers of checks I can't even see over.
Playin' all night, high-limit Hold' Em at the Taj.
- Where the sand turns to gold.
Quote: coachbellyYeah, what's up with these photos?
If you took and posted the Wynn chip photos 5 minutes
after Expectedvalue called you out, then that's not enough time
for them to have taken the plexiglass down.
Even if you had taken the photos earlier in the day,
the plexiglass would still show up.
Either you are not at the Wynn,
or you took these photos during an earlier trip.
Which is it?
Quote: MDawgQuote: terapined
If you are going to use my pic
At least let people know it came from a REAL adventure :-)
Quote: kewljHow many times has Mdawg requested members be suspended?
I'll bet right now neither of you will answer.
I have no idea, either MDawg or the mods would have that info,
nobody has shared that with me.
As for challenges, I was referring to the "pressing charges" challenges
when a member calls for another to be suspended.
And this picturegate controversy that you've concocted is not
the first time you've asked to have another member censored.
Quote: MDawgQuote: terapined
This is really the whole thread in a nutshell
Yea Mdawg posts pics
But he does not just post his pics
He also posts my pic
Why
Is this the MO
Post somebody else's pic on his thread
Take somebody else's pic that he just finds on the internet and post it in his thread
By the way, this pic that Mdawg posted came from a REAL adventure in my REAL adventures thread. This pic was personally taken by yours truly terapined
Quote: AxelWolfI challenge MDawg to allow Mike to be honest and tell us if and how many times he had made complaints to Mike or other moderators requesting action be taken. I have asked Mdawg about this before and he continually doesn't answer. Put up an O/U number and let's make a bet. If it's less than 20 Ill take a suspension for 1 month here and the other forum. If I win you do the same.
MDawg has no standing to allow Mike to be honest.
I don't know or care if MDawg has made any such complaints,
I'm calling for a fixed number of such complaints permitted per member.
If your complaint is legit, then you retain that complaint.
If not, then you lose the complaint and serve a penalty.
Once you exhaust all of your complaints, you can't post anymore.
It seems to me that the mods issue suspensions without being prompted
by a member's private or public complaint ...but I don't know if that's true.
But if a member chooses to make a complaint asking for sanctions to be taken
against another member, then a penalty should apply to the complainer if the
complaint is found to be bogus or otherwise denied.
Quote: lilredroosterI haven't been counting but I'm guessing he's won over 100 sessions in a row
what do you think coach?
I think each hand is a separate session,
so I think his longest winning streak is close to 10 in a row.
Quote: ChumpChangeI was under the impression the stack of chips photos were same day photos when I first saw them, until others called him out.
What are you saying...that you weren't aware or hadn't considered that the photos
could have been from an earlier trip until I brought it up?
Quote: terapinedThis pic was personally taken by yours truly terapined
MD credited you for the photo,
he posted it as a quote with your name listed above as the OP.
Quote: MDawgQuote: terapined
Two things. If you're going to wear Ralph Lauren, Purple Label only
???????????
I'm not into style
But
Now that I think about it
Thanks for posting my pic Mdawg
It's very unusual
Where do you find these kind of pants at a high end store. I was blown away and of course I personally took the pic.
If anybody wants to know the backstory of the pic that mdawg posted
Come over to the REAL adventures of terapined :-)
I only write about and take pics of REAL adventures
Quote: ExpectedvalueNot like that of a wealthy attorney
Tell ExpectedValue to fill his closet with Purple Label (probably have conservatively speaking ten grand worth in mine, and Ralph Lauren probably represents 2% of my wardrobe, if that, I am much more into Italian or French designers, or bespoke), and then come back and talk to me about who is a wealthy lawyer and who is not. Pass along to me what he has to say on that subject, as he continues to be blocked.
Quote: coachbellyMD credited you for the photo,
he posted it as a quote with your name listed above as the OP.
I'm fascinated by this
Mdawg goes into The REAL adventures of terapined to find photos to post on his own thread
I'm flattered
But
He has the whole internet to search for photos
And he chooses my pic that I personally took to post in his own thread
What are the odds
A gazillion photos out there and he posts mine from the adventures of terapined thread
Dont you think it's kind of weird that Mdawg posts pics from a REAL adventure. My REAL adventure of all people. I dont even play bac.
Quote: coachbellyWhat are you saying...that you weren't aware or hadn't considered that the photos
could have been from an earlier trip until I brought it up?
I was trying to count chips to see if it matched anything he was posting about his betting habits of the day. I gave up when I saw 8 $5000 chips. Yeah, I was misled to believe it was a pic from the day, until YOU called it into question. I think kewlj was right to raise an objection, but it was a bit belated, but his objection does call into question MDawg's propensity to mislead.
Then came a trip report that may have matched the chip load.
Only thing i see is it would upset a stalker and a troll. Otherwise, no damn difference!
Quote: ChumpChangeI was trying to count chips to see if it matched anything he was posting about his betting habits of the day. I gave up when I saw 8 $5000 chips. Yeah, I was misled to believe it was a pic from the day, until YOU called it into question. I think kewlj was right to raise an objection, but it was a bit belated, but his objection does call into question MDawg's propensity to mislead.
Then came a trip report that may have matched the chip load.
It is a picayune detail about when MDawg took the picture of the chips. Who could possibly care? Kewlj, please decide if this thread is worth it for you to flame out of here again. It is a trajectory that is clear to see. See how I post.... remembering that I basically agree with all of your points. Also remember how easy it is to create new members to make it seem like a growing majority believe his baccarat claims. I have no incontrovertible evidence that that has occurred.
And as far as whether MDawg has asked for you and/or others to be suspended via pm, you KNOW the rules here prevent Mike from divulging that.
So in summary, I think you are too valuable a member to let this morass of a thread take you down.
Quote: Marcusclark66Seriously what is the damn difference if a picture and a baccarat shoe with notes and a story that goes along with it, etc, is from today or a previous day?
Only thing i see is it would upset a stalker and a troll. Otherwise, no damn difference!
Quote: terapinedDont you think it's kind of weird that Mdawg posts pics from a REAL adventure.
No I don't think that's weird.
It seems that he wanted to comment on the photo you posted and the designer.
He wrote earlier that he would not post in your thread,
so he wrote about it in his thread.
I do think it's weird for you to obsess over it, though.
You should consider staying out of his adventures thread too,
especially since you have your own adventures thread on this site.
Quote: ChumpChangeI was misled to believe it was a pic from the day, until YOU called it into question.
Did you think that Wynn had removed the plexiglass?
Quote: ChumpChangeI wasn't trained to look for the presence of plexiglass from this distance.
Expectedvalue asked about the plexiglass 15 minutes after MD posted the photos.
Did you read the thread?
Quote: ChumpChangeThat was between ExpectedValue (whom MDawg has blocked), you, and MDawg. I didn't really know the facts.
You wrote that you were misled.
Were you misled that MD's chip photos were current photos,
that he is at the Wynn, and that the Wynn had removed the plexiglass?
Quote: MDawgCould someone please read my palm and let me know what's in store for today's session.
I'll boldly predict your 51st winning session in a row.
Quote: SOOPOOKewlj, please decide if this thread is worth it for you to flame out of here again.
While I understand and appreciate your concern and warning, my answer to this question is YES IT IS. This is a gambling, math related forum, comprised of gambling mathematicians, players that play for a living, players that play recreationally. And anyone in any one of those groups should know that what this person is claiming can't be. It is NOT how gambling works. It defies math and reality. It MOCKS this forum, Wizard and the intention of this forum. So, No I will not sit by quietly and say nothing. "Evil triumphs when good men say and do nothing"
Quote: Wizard
You've made it perfectly clear you don't believe Mdawg and don't especially like him either. I get it. Consider yourself warned your behavior of going after him so aggressively and persistently is trolling. May I make the radical suggestion of blocking Mdawg and staying out of this thread.
I am sorry Mike, but I won't stand by and stay out of this thread as is. This forum has a systems section for systems that defy math and don't work. This "adventure" thread either belongs there or in a new voodoo / fiction type section that should be created. To allow such a thread to continue in the main forum, everyday as the top thread, may not violate forum rules but it violates math and reality.
And for you to allow this to go on and "protect" this member is a quazi-endorsement from you. You are allowing this thread and person to make a mockery of both this forum and your name. If WoV is no longer about math and reality, then it is just another one of the voodoo gambling forums like VCT or gambling forums. Is that REALLY where we are? Is that really the Wizard brand and what you stand for?
Quote: MDawgIt is one of the above. 🙂 Although, the two statements are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
You'll recognize those chip posts from a prior trip about a year ago.
For security reasons many forum members have advised me to cease with any real time specific pictures that might tie me to a particular casino, so I stopped doing that about a year ago. It's a dirty shame, as I'd love to post a lot of pictures I have taken.
Quote: ChumpChangeI was waiting to see MDawg's response. What was his response?
I don't know what response you mean, but all his responses are in the thread.
1) whether Mdawg is a sockpuppet of a previously banned member
2.) whether he is even in Las Vegas when he says he is or using pictures from someone else's visit and play
3.) whether he is betting amounts stated. This is important because of the comps claimed (high end suites for weeks at a time)
4.) whether is system and betting patterns are capable of the wins he has stated. I have complete confidence Mike would be able to determine this fairly easily.
And guess what? This isn't a new proposal. Mike proposed this in December when he said "it was time for Mdawg to put up or shut up". But Mdawg talked him out of it. If it was time to put up or shut up back in December how it is not past time, now several new chapters into this fairytale?
I know we are not supposed to talk about other forums as if this forum is in a vacuum, but that too hides reality. And the reality is Mdawg makes identical claims, duplicating his posts and claims here at VCT and just like Wizard, the owner has requested that Mdawg "show him". And just like here, Mdawg has refused. He should be jumping at the chance to prove himself, not saying "No I am not going to show you I can levitate, you have to take my word for it".
Quote: ChumpChangeThis was his response over 3 hours after he posted the photos.
His response you quoted came 4 minutes after I asked the question.
Quote: ChumpChangeIf MDawg had posted that the photos were of his chip pile of the day at the Wynn and that the Wynn had removed the plexiglass, where would we be now?
We would probably be discussing another member's (not MD) photos
showing whether or not the plexiglass had been removed.
Quote: kewljThere is a simple and fair solution to this Mdawg situation.
Are you suggesting that all members create a set of questions for other members,
and lay out different scenarios by which those questions shall be answered?
That sounds like a good idea for a separate thread.
Quote: coachbellyGiven the conditions outlined earlier, if you can't determine the probability
for a single winning "session", then can you determine the probability of
consecutive winning sessions?
Obviously not.
All due respect, but may I ask if this is leading to something and, if so, can we get there faster? You clearly asked the question knowing my answer.