Quote: AxelWolfIt's a good thing no here would resemble this.
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Very funny Axel.
But it's sailing close to the wind strongly suggesting that 'someone' is 'a pathological liar'. It's hardly a secret which member in this thread you strongly disbelieve.
To be called 'a pathological liar' is a personal insult, regardless of strength of the opinion. Your line of text did nothing to thinly veil the barb.
Please ease back the attacks, maybe questioning the truthfulness of the posts without insulting the poster.
It would be great if Mdawg did a meet up with other members, but I doubt it will happen.
Little ol' me?Quote: OnceDearQuote: AxelWolfIt's a good thing no here would resemble this.
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Very funny Axel.
But it's sailing close to the wind strongly suggesting that 'someone' is 'a pathological liar'. It's hardly a secret which member in this thread you strongly disbelieve.
To be called 'a pathological liar' is a personal insult, regardless of strength of the opinion. Your line of text did nothing to thinly veil the barb.
Please ease back the attacks, maybe questioning the truthfulness of the posts without insulting the poster.
It would be great if Mdawg did a meet up with other members, but I doubt it will happen.
Quote: MDawgWhy don't you post one of the pics of any of my watches on a watch forum and check out the feedback. Then post a pic of one of your fakes and observe how not even one person at the watch forum will be fooled by your fakes. The problem is that you appear to be claiming to be an "expert" in things you know nothing about, which includes fine timepieces. This is what EvenBob said about you, remember?
I am with Tiger, only a bad person would support the fake watch market, or any fake market by purchasing any sort of designer counterfeit. Not to mention that it is illegal to possess any of these counterfeits. I suppose it's one thing to have in passing stumbled upon one and bought it out of curiosity, but to wear one or actively pursue counterfeit designer goods, echh.
Anyway, positive energy only, going down for another sesh at the new casino! Results will be posted elsewhere most likely, not here!
Agreeing with EvenBob isn’t exactly the most.... uhh.... oh forget it. You know what I mean.
they all give pretty words, not math, to explain their methods
those who know better try to shoot these claims down but it's really a hopeless effort - there will just be more and more gamblers making them
these claims are very dangerous
lots are going to believe them and get hurt thinking they can do the same thing
if a gambler writes how much he enjoys what he is doing as recreation - no problem - but to suggest long term winnings are achievable with no edge, with a negative mathematical expectation is damaging
the following is one of very, very few books to get a perfect 5 star rating on Amazon
suggested reading:
Quote: lilredroosterthese claims are very dangerous
lots are going to believe them and get hurt thinking they can do the same thing
These claims are not dangerous at all. Debate is an important element of learning. If you sanitize online discussion, you prevent people from fully understanding the concepts; and then when they encounter opposing viewpoints in the casino, they'll believe the degenerates who obviously have actual experience.
Quote: HugoSlaviaThese claims are not dangerous at all. Debate is an important element of learning. If you sanitize online discussion, you prevent people from fully understanding the concepts; and then when they encounter opposing viewpoints in the casino, they'll believe the degenerates who obviously have actual experience.
Are there actually people who start out believing in nonsense like this and then somehow end up "fully understanding the concepts" later on? I think that may be a rare case for an adult. One thing if you're a teenager, that's different, but once you're an adult and still believe in silly systems for negative games, or worse yet superstitious crap, what's the hope of figuring out how foolish you are and then admitting it to yourself and then straightening out? Not many people work that way. Once someone has crossed over the line into adulthood and is still foolish there's a good chance they will be foolish when they reach 90 also. And they'll probably smoke.
Even though I knew this was going to be the case, I certainly appreciate the effort. Thank you.Quote: jjjooogggMy rolex friend said that you can't tell by photos over the internet. You have to see the watches in person. But he didn't see anything that was 100% one way or the other.
Of course, MD will claim your friend doesn't know what he is talking about, blah.... blah.... blah!
And you state that she must be a bad person.
You should be ashamed of yourself. Her wanting to wear an attractive watch she could afford and giggle about does not make her a bad person.
Please just leave and go to the other website that supposedly wants you. We have tolerated your braggadocio here because there is no harm. When you start besmirching my (deceased) mother your schtick has worn too thin.
I don't believe MDawg's claims that he can beat baccarat. I do believe he is a "high roller." If he has the money than his watches are probably real, too. I would be interested in meeting up with him to verify these claims for the forum, but I won't be in Vegas for maybe another six months (April-May-ish), so if there's other members that can do it before then, that would be even better.
If you take a kid with some intelligence and explain to him the logic and the math behind it I have a feeling they're very likely to understand and realize you can't beat a negative expectation game. You just have to get to them before they start to imprint all the nonsense and start to notice all kinds of crazy patterns and gambler's fallacy crap.Quote: bobbartopAre there actually people who start out believing in nonsense like this and then somehow end up "fully understanding the concepts" later on? I think that may be a rare case for an adult. One thing if you're a teenager, that's different, but once you're an adult and still believe in silly systems for negative games, or worse yet superstitious crap, what's the hope of figuring out how foolish you are and then admitting it to yourself and then straightening out? Not many people work that way. Once someone has crossed over the line into adulthood and is still foolish there's a good chance they will be foolish when they reach 90 also. And they'll probably smoke.
There are those who get it and there are those who don't.
Actually, that would be an interesting experiment for all you people who have children. I'm not sure how you would present it to them. I guess you would first to ask them if there is a system that can be a negative expectation game in the long and then go from there.
I'm most certainly not suggesting that it is the case here, but two prominent figures on Long Island that were known for their lavish gambling trips and constantly showed off their " bling" turned out to be embezzlers and money launderers. A famous nightlife impresario who started out as a backup dancer for Madonna and who claimed to have won big betting on Greyhounds turned out to be part of a bank robbing crew.
But what do I know. I don't even own a fugazy Rolex.
My Uncle dabbled in horses for many years, with a few public successes but lost much more than he invested into it. He was very open about his losses and said it was a hobby.
He used to joke that the way to become a millionaire gambling was to start out a multi-millionaire.
By the way, how is bartops signature not a violation of the no politics rule?
Quote: OnceDearQuote: AxelWolfIt's a good thing no here would resemble this.
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Very funny Axel.
But it's sailing close to the wind strongly suggesting that 'someone' is 'a pathological liar'. It's hardly a secret which member in this thread you strongly disbelieve.
To be called 'a pathological liar' is a personal insult, regardless of strength of the opinion. Your line of text did nothing to thinly veil the barb.
Please ease back the attacks, maybe questioning the truthfulness of the posts without insulting the poster.
It would be great if Mdawg did a meet up with other members, but I doubt it will happen.
Sorry, he always crawls to the edge without getting into red ink. He could put Mdawg on ignore, but chooses to continue the snarky comments.
Quote: billryan
By the way, how is bartops signature not a violation of the no politics rule?
How is your question not a hijack? Ok, I'll bite. I always thought signatures were an exception. If a mod wants to tell me to get rid of it, I'll get rid of it. Of course, I believe it if were a criticism about the republicans, you wouldn't have said squat. But do you realize that IS a quote by a democrat? Do you realize that's Tulsi Gabbard?
Is there a way to post a video here, short of uploading it first to YouTube? I already posted it on the other forum, it's easy there.
Tiger I'll probably be in Vegas again at some point next year around when you will be here.
By the way, I don't disagree with the claim that millionaire high rollers are millionaires first high rollers second. I never claimed to be doing this for a living! Just happen to be able to win at gaming, so why not play occasionally?
BillRyan that's funny, you actually Do have to bet big to win big. But that doesn't mean that betting big means that you Will win.
BTW being a watchmaker Tiger, then you do know that these fakes - which again I agree with you that no one should buy as they support nefarious elements of society and in any case, are illegal to possess and take money out of the mouths of legitimate watch corporations - are almost universally stainless steel because no one has figured out how to make any sort of gold-tone or platinum-tone look anywhere near real. All of the watches I have posted pics of are either 18K or platinum, all are the real thing.
Quote: billryanBy the way, how is bartops signature not a violation of the no politics rule?
Because no admins noticed it. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. We admins aren't able to edit signatures.
What I'm going to do is give bobbartop 24 hours to clean up his signature. Otherwise, I suspension will be forthcoming.
Quote: MDawgthe video picture seemed so off topic I didn't bother to click it to view.
I guess I'll have to take your word on this. :-)
other than winning!
Quote: MDawgWhat's on the agenda today?
rain?
Quote: MDawgWhat's on the agenda today?
other than winning!
One of my favorite parts about Vegas is the views. Perhaps we will or have crossed paths today, though it would be brief since I'm slinging a lot less money than you are. Hahahaha.
as well intentioned as this site may be..............................
this is bold and blatant exploitation - suckerization - of addicted compulsive gamblers
Quote: MDawgTiger I'll probably be in Vegas again at some point next year around when you will be here.
Cool. Maybe we can work something out. I'll try to keep you posted.
No, not rain.
Winning.
Interestingly, almost exactly the same as yesterday, although yesterday was win 1500, today was win 1560. BUT yesterday I could have won much more. Today, I was grateful to win anything, let alone fifteen hunny. I pulled an 8 marker and was actually down to my last thousand on that marker, and was thinking, here we go, will need to pull another marker, when the shoe indicated three more bankers, so I let it ride 1, 2, 4 back to even (minus commission), and then kept playing, small, until I quit at fifteen hunny ahead.
The golden rule (or my golden rule anyway), is to quit soon after coming back from a neg.
Quote: MDawg... when the shoe indicated three more bankers, so I let it ride 1, 2, 4 back to even..
This is the kind of comment that, rightfully, triggers a lot of ridicule around here.
Also, if you really ended the session up, why aren't you showing us pics of your returned markers, as you've done in the past?
Quote: HelenIf 5 days are min, then what is max?
Longest trips were five weeks I've had more than a couple of those.
Although many years ago there was one summer, where I recall flying back and forth between Vegas and Tahoe and didn't wind up back home for some two months. Maybe it was less, but it was well over a month, that trip (which was more like several separate trips all connected) was pretty crazy winning (or losing) in one town then flying to the other, then back again. Okay, What I do recall about that trip was that I left with enough clothes for just a short trip, so the extended nature of it wasn't planned in advance, that's for sure. I distinctly recall the Tahoe limo driver complimenting us on how we knew how to travel light, and thinking, I really didn't plan it this way! One of my best friends joined me during parts of it, and I met up with one or other of my girlfriends during parts of it too. As I recall over all that very long trip didn't end so well, I think I kept going back and forth between down, even and up and ended finally down. What was crazy was I started mailing home checks to myself thinking well I'll have these when I get home, no way I'll end up losing, but as I recall, the sum of what I finally lost somehow ended up surpassing even those big checks.
I recall one of my earliest Vegas trips, before I was anything like a true high roller, going over there with no extra clothes and buying everything upon arrival with winnings, new clothes, even skincare and toiletries, not having planned to even go let alone stay, a very spontaneous trip.
Quote: MDawg
No, not rain.
Winning.
Interestingly, almost exactly the same as yesterday, although yesterday was win 1500, today was win 1560. BUT yesterday I could have won much more. Today, I was grateful to win anything, let alone fifteen hunny. I pulled an 8 marker and was actually down to my last thousand on that marker, and was thinking, here we go, will need to pull another marker, when the shoe indicated three more bankers, so I let it ride 1, 2, 4 back to even (minus commission), and then kept playing, small, until I quit at fifteen hunny ahead.
The golden rule (or my golden rule anyway), is to quit soon after coming back from a neg.
At least the pawn shop gave you the extra 2 $5's for the watch. You can use those for bus fare to the airport.
Quote: mcallister3200Don’t EVER let the haters keep you down Dawg.
Yeah, just keep making a mockery of everything this site is supposed to stand for. Let it ride 🤣🤣😀
#GETYOURDUE
Quote: UP84if you really ended the session up, why aren't you showing us pics of your returned markers, as you've done in the past?
You want copies of paid markers? Why not? I'm in a good mood hanging in the suite while she's at the gym (I already went in the morning), and housekeeping is doing its job (had the DND on the door all day until recently).
Here are the two from yesterday and today, but what does it prove, all markers are undated for many years now it's been that way. But, if you are a true player you'll recognize that these are this year's "model" of markers.
What's interesting is that yesterday's five is numbered 045 and today's eight is 203, and they were separated by about eighteen hours, so that means this casino writes about 8 markers per an hour? It's a slow day in November though.
Here's the deal, if I were losing, we wouldn't be in Vegas, this is not my source of livelihood in any way, but at the same time, I enjoy gambling because I tend to win at it. Otherwise, I would not bother with it.
Quote: MaxPenQuote: MDawg
No, not rain.
Winning.
Interestingly, almost exactly the same as yesterday, although yesterday was win 1500, today was win 1560. BUT yesterday I could have won much more. Today, I was grateful to win anything, let alone fifteen hunny. I pulled an 8 marker and was actually down to my last thousand on that marker, and was thinking, here we go, will need to pull another marker, when the shoe indicated three more bankers, so I let it ride 1, 2, 4 back to even (minus commission), and then kept playing, small, until I quit at fifteen hunny ahead.
The golden rule (or my golden rule anyway), is to quit soon after coming back from a neg.
At least the pawn shop gave you the extra 2 $5's for the watch. You can use those for bus fare to the airport.
Here's the deal MaxPen, which actually I am surprised that world traveler that you are you wouldn't know this, I always keep a supply of fives in my wallet when in Vegas (or traveling anywhere), for tips. Every hot tea from the cocktail waitress, $5. The guy in the VIP room, slide him a $5. every now and then. The girl who holds the door open to the VIP room, slide her a five every now and then. The valets, $5. The bellman, $20. sometimes $15., sometimes $25., depending on how many bags. The guy who loads the bags on the cart at check in, $10. Everything is multiple of fives. Not to mention the tip left at each meal, multiple of fives pretty much handles that each time quite efficiently. You know that, don't you MaxPen, that the casino comps everything except tips? so the best is to tip in cash, and have as close to a zero bill on checkout as possible.
Hence every cashout at least one of the Benjies is converted to fives, unless I am already well stocked in fives. Yesterday I didn't really need any more fives, but today I was starting to run low on them. In this case, today, I won 1560 so I converted just the sixty to fives. I usually sliiiide one of the the fives to the cashier too, more if it's a really big win.
So yeah, that's not two fives on the bottom stack it is 12 fives. (Fifteen hundreds on top.) Today, I didn't give the cashier anything. I hope it doesn't come back to bite me, karma luck wise. But I did give the VIP room attendant $5. just for handing me a couple of Perriers on the way back up to the suite.
BTW how do you end up with 1560 on a hundred dollar minimum table? Commission.
It is entirely possible for a high-rolling gambler playing a low-house-edge game like baccarat to run above-EV for YEARS. There are a lot of gamblers and some of them just randomly will get lucky. They will win money playing negative games and whether they attribute it to luck or their own "skill" is all in their head.
Baccarat has been beaten in the past by advantage play methods. Three I can think of (off the top of my head) are loss-rebate shopping, edge sorting and tracking insufficiently pre-shuffled cards. Mdawg, have you used any of these?
If Mdawg is claiming he can beat baccarat going forward simply playing streaks and hunches, obviously he is mistaken as baccarat is a negative game. However, if Mdawg claims that he has beaten baccarat in the past playing streaks and hunches, he may be correct simply by running well in a low-edge game.
Regardless, I enjoy the high-roller trip reports, so why chase him away?
As far as Baccarat, I don't claim to have a system as in anything I could teach, but for whatever reason by varying the bet and playing heavily into good shoes that follow patterns and streaks and cutting back on or walking away from bad shoes that seem random, plus good money management, I have managed to stay ahead. I realize there is no guarantee that this will keep up, but so far, it has.
About the only thing that bothers me sometimes about casino gambling, to be honest, is thinking that hell I didn't spend years in college and grad school and professional training to sit at a Baccarat table. But, it's really fun, and I tend to win at it, I can afford most any potential loss, and the perks are outstanding, so...why not. Not like we live in Vegas, although we do tend to spend more time here than the average non-resident.
As far as loss rebates, yes in the old days I used to push those to the max, such as if I lost an entire line I would demand a 10% discount or at least a minimum $2000. off the top in airfare reimbursement credit (and generally, a blowout at one property already meant a win exceeding or at least equaling that loss at another property, so the discount/rebate would def. take me over the top), but blowing out a line hasn't happened to me in the past two years, so other than the RFB comps, free gifts, free gift cards, etc. I haven't experienced any such incentives these days.
Quote: MDawg
Here's the deal MaxPen, which actually I am surprised that world traveler that you are you wouldn't know this, I always keep a supply of fives in my wallet when in Vegas (or traveling anywhere), for tips. Every hot tea from the cocktail waitress, $5. The guy in the VIP room, slide him a $5. every now and then. The girl who holds the door open to the VIP room, slide her a five every now and then. The valets, $5. The bellman, $20. sometimes $15., sometimes $25., depending on how many bags. The guy who loads the bags on the cart at check in, $10. Everything is multiple of fives. Not to mention the tip left at each meal, multiple of fives pretty much handles that each time quite efficiently. You know that, don't you MaxPen, that the casino comps everything except tips? so the best is to tip in cash, and have as close to a zero bill on checkout as possible..
Actually the smart play if you are tipping is to charge every possible tip to your room and then pay with a Card that’s pays 2-3% Cash Back on all Hotel charges.
But then you would be making an AP move and playing at an advantage. And obviously that is not in your repertoire.
Quote: sodawaterI don't understand the controversy in this thread.
Regardless, I enjoy the high-roller trip reports, so why chase him away?
They are trying big time! Jealousy is my answer, having to AP for $20 an hour, maybe, and put up with this guy.
Quote: MDawgYou want copies of paid markers? Why not? I'm in a good mood hanging in the suite while she's at the gym (I already went in the morning), and housekeeping is doing its job (had the DND on the door all day until recently).
Here are the two from yesterday and today, but what does it prove, all markers are undated for many years now it's been that way. But, if you are a true player you'll recognize that these are this year's "model" of markers.
What's interesting is that yesterday's five is numbered 045 and today's eight is 203, and they were separated by about eighteen hours, so that means this casino writes about 8 markers per an hour? It's a slow day in November though.
Here's the deal, if I were losing, we wouldn't be in Vegas, this is not my source of livelihood in any way, but at the same time, I enjoy gambling because I tend to win at it. Otherwise, I would not bother with it.
Thanks.
Quote: MDawg
As far as Baccarat, I don't claim to have a system as in anything I could teach, but for whatever reason by varying the bet and playing heavily into good shoes that follow patterns and streaks and cutting back on or walking away from bad shoes that seem random, plus good money management.
Just when you got a few suckers to believe you , you go and say things like this that makes them all look silly
Quote: michael99000Just when you got a few suckers to believe you , you go and say things like this that makes them all look silly
Again, given that I was suspended for just under two weeks for...what? saying things that "belittled" forum members. This guy, who has been suspended before for personal insult, now calling other forum members suckers? Why isn't a martingale two week suspension in order then?
Quote: MDawgAgain, given that I was suspended for just under two weeks for...what? saying things that "belittled" forum members. This guy, who has been suspended before for personal insult, now calling other forum members suckers? Why isn't a martingale two week suspension in order then?
Great insight you had, realizing that shoe indicated 3 more banker hands were coming.
I’m going through the rules now looking to see if nonstop b.s. spewing is a violation. If so, you’re in trouble too.
HOWEVER
He also says he tracks the flow [of the cards], which leads me to believe he's definitely won what he claims to. Everyone knows the sacred flow of the cards is how you win at counting the cards.
If I was betting $300, $600, then $900 onward, I'd be up 15 units or $4500 with a 7 in a row win. (divide or multiply by 10 depending on actual bet levels)
If I was betting $300, $600, then $1200 onward, I'd be up 15 units or $4500 with a 6 in a row win. (divide or multiply by 10 depending on actual bet levels)
I'd need a 30 unit session buy-in, or $9,000, and it's not enough.
Yesterday we had a shoe where no side could go past two in a row, so whenever two had passed, we'd pile up on the opposing side. This worked for some time, until the pattern finally broke. And then among the indicators on the computer screen, doughnuts, hamburgers, and french fries, much of the time these are meaningless, but yesterday we had a shoe where I noticed that first the hamburgers and then later the doughnuts were exactly predicting the next hand so we followed it, the whole table was repeating my shout of hamburger number 10! Hamburger number 11! Hamburger number 12! as we won many in a row just following that. With those indicators if you start to notice that one or both of them is accurately predicting at least several in a row, you follow it see where it goes, and in some cases such as yesterday it runs.
It just gets back to some shoes follow a pattern, that repeats, and some shoes are random. If you are lucky enough to be in a pattern shoe, you will win. My experience, with my cuts, are that 2/3 of my shoes end up being good.
Anyway, this girl I met much earlier this year we stayed in touch she's lost 12 trips in a row, every time she's been to Vegas over the past years, I analyzed her Bacc. play and coached her and this trip she's up 15K so far, if she doesn't blow it she'll go home a winner for the first time ever. What she was doing was more or less flat betting 100-200 until she lost then betting big to try to catch up. Also she was CONSTANTLY betting 100 on ties and the "Tiger" 12:1 / 20:1 exotic bet at the casino where she was playing which I consider the Tiger bet to be stupid, and the tie something that should be bet rarely.
Sent a car to bring her to this casino for yesterday's play. She kept playing after I won and left. I coached her to vary her bet at least 1 - 5X and avoid the exotic bets. Another no no she was doing was just playing every waking hour until she had to get on the plane, so I also coached her on limiting her play, and leaving when ahead.
Does this mean a guaranteed win? No! But it does give a chance at winning, and in her case, she's kicking a** I'm actually half jealous relative to the tiny sum of her bankroll compared to mine she's won far more than I have this trip! Just hope she walks ahead this trip and doesn't keep playing other than maybe small, she leaves tomorrow same day we do. Now she has the problem of that they want her SSN to cash her chips, a good problem to have!
In general "the haters" on this forum are calling out the unverified BS. Again, we been down this road many times and it almost always turns out to be BS. It's amazing what lengths people will go to in order to fabricate a good story.Quote: MDawgNot sure what RS is trying to say, or not say, but I think in general there are haters on this forum who spend more time talking sh*t than doing, and that seems to go for their lives in general as much as their casino play.
I'm sure RS and others could put together legit Jackpot pictures, w-2g's, cash & chip stacks along with various other things that would blow whatever you're posting up away. But, here's the thing, there would be multiple other known members that could verify legitimacy of those things. And here's the kicker, everything would makes perfect sense since there's actual math that can back up the fact that the person has an advantage over the casino.
Quote: RSNobody who (seriously) says "I count the cards" has ever, in the history of ever, actually been a card counter.
HOWEVER
He also says he tracks the flow [of the cards], which leads me to believe he's definitely won what he claims to. Everyone knows the sacred flow of the cards is how you win at counting the cards.
Loose lips sink ships. The less discussion about TSFOTCs, the better.
Quote: MaxPenYeah, just keep making a mockery of everything this site is supposed to stand for.
We don't need MDawg's help for that...
Quote: BozActually the smart play if you are tipping is to charge every possible tip to your room and then pay with a Card that’s pays 2-3% Cash Back on all Hotel charges.
But then you would be making an AP move and playing at an advantage. And obviously that is not in your repertoire.
In THEORY, you're 100% correct.
But everyone knows Vegas runs on money, and tipping someone in cash versus the credit card bill at the end of the meal or whatever may be more likely to generate some kind additional comp in itself.
Tip the waitress on your credit card at the end, you get 2% cashback.
Tip her with a crisp ten dollar bill, you might get expedited service and some top shelf liquor.
Which one is worth more to you personally? That's the real AP play.
Quote: MDawgAs far as BJ, I count the cards and track the flow, but over the years I've run into problems with getting banned or handicapped, which is why I started playing Baccarat to begin with.
Very similar to what Kevin Nealon was teaching us years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GPstH1lUYY
Quote: MDawgAs far as Baccarat, I don't claim to have a system as in anything I could teach, but for whatever reason by varying the bet and playing heavily into good shoes that follow patterns and streaks and cutting back on or walking away from bad shoes that seem random, plus good money management, I have managed to stay ahead. I realize there is no guarantee that this will keep up, but so far, it has.
Sounds like you just taught us everything. When we know a pattern will continue, follow that pattern with our bets and win thousands of dollars every day; when we know a pattern will become random, stop betting and wait for the next shoe, where we have a good chance to win thousands. What else is there to do other than put pictures of our winnings on the internet?