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January 14th, 2020 at 8:25:40 AM permalink
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el suspendo




wtf? he just got out, like what, a week ago? talk about a high recidivism rate.
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January 14th, 2020 at 8:30:48 AM permalink
He buys them back or is it redeem? Takes a picture to show the h****s that he did what he said he did. That irritates the so called ap crowd. So they say what they usually say in order to drive him to the edge. Sooner or later a mistake is made and red ink is the result. Happens about once every year, a different victim but the same perpetrators. The ignore button should be used but no, the perpetrators have the need to bleat time after time that this play won’t work. Us common folk don’t know all this, so it is a vicious cycle.
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January 14th, 2020 at 9:59:54 AM permalink
Well maybe that MDawg has been suspended maybe we can put an end to this idiotic nacisistic thread.

Enough already.
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January 14th, 2020 at 10:13:20 AM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps

Well maybe that MDawg has been suspended maybe we can put an end to this idiotic nacisistic thread.

Enough already.



There's a "block thread" button that will solve that problem for you.
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January 14th, 2020 at 11:27:55 AM permalink
yes I saw the twitter

I believe mdawg tell the truth. I like mdawg

I do not like Miguel I do not like many here who habla mierda. I think the people here they have a problemo with mdawg it because they have nada going on in there life

Preocupese por Lo suyo
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January 14th, 2020 at 1:12:06 PM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps

Well maybe that MDawg has been suspended maybe we can put an end to this idiotic nacisistic thread.

Enough already.


Some of us can’t get enough. But for you there is an ignore button. Use it. TIA
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January 14th, 2020 at 1:33:08 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Some of us can’t get enough. But for you there is an ignore button. Use it. TIA



When a guy has figured out how to beat a 120 year old mathematically unbeatable game , and he does it by riding streaks and following the flow of the cards, people are gonna be interested.

You can’t expect people to ignore a thread that details the winning sessions of a gambler with that one of a kind skill level.
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January 14th, 2020 at 1:50:55 PM permalink
Quote: Mendoza

yes I saw the twitter

I believe mdawg tell the truth. I like mdawg

I do not like Miguel I do not like many here who habla mierda. I think the people here they have a problemo with mdawg it because they have nada going on in there life

Preocupese por Lo suyo



Mendoza,

This is a board rated for children to read (in the US we call it PG, not sure you have that rating system). Mierda is not acceptable language in English or Spanish.

Not sure why you changed your post. "Mind your own business" is not out of line in this context, but mierda is. Profanity warning.
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January 14th, 2020 at 7:00:29 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

When a guy has figured out how to beat a 120 year old mathematically unbeatable game , and he does it by riding streaks and following the flow of the cards, people are gonna be interested.

You can’t expect people to ignore a thread that details the winning sessions of a gambler with that one of a kind skill level.


So the bell curve does not exist, no one ever wins, it is mathematically impossible to win. You know exactly how he plays and with computer simulations you have determined all this.
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January 14th, 2020 at 10:17:33 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Mendoza,

This is a board rated for children to read (in the US we call it PG, not sure you have that rating system). Mierda is not acceptable language in English or Spanish.

Not sure why you changed your post. "Mind your own business" is not out of line in this context, but mierda is. Profanity warning.




Cool. I just learned a new word.
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January 15th, 2020 at 6:13:53 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

So the bell curve does not exist, no one ever wins, it is mathematically impossible to win. You know exactly how he plays and with computer simulations you have determined all this.



Piecing together all of his stories, years of play, hours at the tables, big tipping, the likelihood of him being a winner is so small that for all practical purposes is zero. So if there were a trillion guys with his allegations might there be one winner? Maybe? It's not just he alleges he is a lifetime winner, he alleges he is a big winner! Large enough volume of bets to get RFB plus toys, plus a winner each time. It's funny, we have card counters who actually play with an edge who don't win every time.

You of course know we can't do an exact computer simulation because we don't know exactly how much he bets, how often he bets tie, how much he tips, how many hours, how much he raises his bet because the shoe is hot, etc...

I'll give you an analogy. We had a poster claim to see 18 yo's in a row at a craps table. Sure, it is mathematically possible it happened. It is more reasonable that the person lied. By a huge factor. So I took the extremely low risk of calling the person a liar than just believing him and saying 'wow', that's great! MDawgs claims do not approach the same level of impossibility. But are so unlikely that there is no practical reason to believe them. None.
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January 15th, 2020 at 7:21:40 AM permalink
these days I spend much the time to read all this and think

Senor mdawg say he win very big one time maybe more then one time i read here he say one time 400000

i know many times I read about the baccarat they win very big it happen a lot

if the man win big even one time and he not bet it all again he will how to say Stay Ahead

is not so hard to see this

Senor Soopo you say I read you never bet more then 200 so you never win big. So you bet the same all the time i think you must be loser in the casino. You never get ahead

also amigo I read you have mucho money but you not buy your madre the real Rolex. this I think is not right I think you not good thinking

maybe you just afraid to spend. Maybe you just afraid to bet the big maybe you just afraid of everything

Vivir con miedo es como vivir a medias

Mdawg he won big before maybe he not give it back. not so hard to think of in this way
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January 15th, 2020 at 7:56:36 AM permalink
Quote: Mendoza



Senor mdawg say he win very big one time maybe more then one time i read here he say one time 400000

i know many times I read about the baccarat they win very big it happen a lot

if the man win big even one time and he not bet it all again he will how to say Stay Ahead

Senor Soopo you say I read you never bet more then 200 so you never win big. So you bet the same all the time i think you must be loser in the casino. You never get ahead

also amigo I read you have mucho money but you not buy your madre the real Rolex. this I think is not right I think you not good thinking

maybe you just afraid to spend.


Mdawg he won big before maybe he not give it back. not so hard to think of in this way



I have time.....
My mother was extremely happy with her Bolex! She passed on 19 years ago. SOOPOO could not afford a Rolex back when she bought her $20 Bolex.
Sure, if a poster said he went on a single big run there would generally be no reason to doubt him. Happens all the time. When a poster blabbers all sorts of mumbo jumbo about flow of cards, can't lose shoes, all resulting in his inevitable win, there is EVERY REASON to doubt him.

As far as my betting, you are correct. I will never win big. It's not worth it to me to even try. I've won as much as a few thousand dollars on a trip, but that was because I found an ADVANTAGE that trip. An Asia Poker dealer that was plain bad. In general I expect to lose as I play games, similar to baccarat, that the casino has an edge ON EVERY BET.

Can you give me one reason you believe MDawg continually wins money at baccarat?
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January 15th, 2020 at 8:01:13 AM permalink
Quote: Mendoza


Senor Soopo you say I read you never bet more then 200 so you never win big. So you bet the same all the time i think you must be loser in the casino. You never get ahead

also amigo I read you have mucho money but you not buy your madre the real Rolex. this I think is not right I think you not good thinking

maybe you just afraid to spend. Maybe you just afraid to bet the big maybe you just afraid of everything



Yeah, SooPoo, maybe needs to get, how you say, el huevos rancheros. Bet the whole enchilada.
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January 15th, 2020 at 10:32:49 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Piecing together all of his stories, years of play, hours at the tables, big tipping, the likelihood of him being a winner is so small that for all practical purposes is zero. So if there were a trillion guys with his allegations might there be one winner? Maybe? It's not just he alleges he is a lifetime winner, he alleges he is a big winner! Large enough volume of bets to get RFB plus toys, plus a winner each time. It's funny, we have card counters who actually play with an edge who don't win every time.

You of course know we can't do an exact computer simulation because we don't know exactly how much he bets, how often he bets tie, how much he tips, how many hours, how much he raises his bet because the shoe is hot, etc...

I'll give you an analogy. We had a poster claim to see 18 yo's in a row at a craps table. Sure, it is mathematically possible it happened. It is more reasonable that the person lied. By a huge factor. So I took the extremely low risk of calling the person a liar than just believing him and saying 'wow', that's great! MDawgs claims do not approach the same level of impossibility. But are so unlikely that there is no practical reason to believe them. None.


Long term net positive can be achieved in negative expectation games...although it's a tiny fraction of players and generally involves lowest house edge wagering. Someone could play for 20 years and be net positive $200. He's bucked the odds. Do I think this guy is making regular bank, yearly money....? No. Do I think he's even net positive? Nah. I concede nothing can be proven one way or the other...so it's a moot topic. Effectively the subject matter (long term winning) is too uncertain to even discuss....beyond what simulations might show. Tiny fraction winning.

Do I think he's playing baccarat with an edge? No.

His statements seem to indicate a lot of gambler fallacy, voodoo, trend betting type claims for winning. I put no credibility on this. Could he have invented the impossible? LOL....I guess. Even though card counting cannot be utilized in baccarat...I would at least give him more leeway if he said he could count baccarat.

The thread is for enjoyment. No one is proving or disproving his claims..him or anyone. No meeting with him will solve the question either. He likes reading about himself. It's the Internet. He's the Kim K of gambling adventure. Treat it as such as I see it.

As the mods noted to him...keep the "eff you" content to a minimum and either read the content for fun...or walk on by.

1 in a trillion?? Craps simulations showed about 3% of players who only play pass line + 2x odds ended up net positive. I believe it was 1 million rolls. Baccarat can be played at around 1% house edge. Again....long term winning can be as little as $1. It's still considered part of the 3%.

I think when people put these type of threads up....2 things should enter their mind.
If people believe...great.
If they don't....so be it.
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January 15th, 2020 at 3:13:35 PM permalink
Nobody knows what he won, what he lost. Pure speculation and wish casting. If I can’t do it, it can’t be done
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January 15th, 2020 at 3:49:47 PM permalink
I was just perusing the forum rules and came across this:

Quote:

Betting systems: Methods of varying bet size, based on previous wins and losses, not only can't overcome the house edge, they can't even dent it. However, if you're one of the many mathematically ignorant gamblers who think adding up negative numbers can result in a positive one, please keep your comments restricted to the betting systems sty. Betting systems may not be offered for sale anywhere on the site.



Perhaps if MDawg's thread were moved from Trip Reports to Betting Systems, it would quell some of the complaints about his adventures.
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January 15th, 2020 at 5:21:30 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

I was just perusing the forum rules and came across this:



Perhaps if MDawg's thread were moved from Trip Reports to Betting Systems, it would quell some of the complaints about his adventures.



Not going to happen. We have professional critics here.
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March 4th, 2020 at 4:47:38 AM permalink
i find the mdawg!

!still he winning!
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March 4th, 2020 at 8:26:47 AM permalink
Quote: Mendoza

i find the mdawg!

!still he winning!




it's truly amaa𝑨𝑨𝑨𝑨𝑨𝒁𝑰𝑵𝑮

he wins every single time he plays

there is no question that he has to be:


𝑻𝑯𝑬 𝑮𝑹𝑬𝑨𝑻𝑬𝑺𝑻 𝑳𝑰𝑽𝑰𝑵𝑮 𝑮𝑨𝑴𝑩𝑳𝑬𝑹 𝑰𝑵 𝑻𝑯𝑬 𝑾𝑶𝑹𝑳𝑫
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March 4th, 2020 at 11:14:52 AM permalink
I smell a ban incoming....
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March 4th, 2020 at 11:26:27 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

it's truly amaa𝑨𝑨𝑨𝑨𝑨𝒁𝑰𝑵𝑮

he wins every single time he plays

there is no question that he has to be:


𝑻𝑯𝑬 𝑮𝑹𝑬𝑨𝑻𝑬𝑺𝑻 𝑳𝑰𝑽𝑰𝑵𝑮 𝑮𝑨𝑴𝑩𝑳𝑬𝑹 𝑰𝑵 𝑻𝑯𝑬 𝑾𝑶𝑹𝑳𝑫



Oh yes. Most certainly, but at least MDawg does not live in North Las Vegas, LOL!

Final results for this trip, $32,000. to the good!
CosmoWin_32K_3_2_2020.JPG
That brings the total between even just the past two trips, at almost sixty K. MDAWG IS A WINNER.

I won those fifty cent pieces on a couple of odd amount Bank 6 winners where I was paid half (I was playing the commissionless Bacc. table again today). The dealer suggested I hold on to them as continued luck for the next trip.

Today was a bit tumultuous though. I was up, just like yesterday, around $6K but it was after just two or three shoes, and I kept playing. I was trying to get to ten K today, thinking okay that will make up for the 4K I didn't get yesterday where I ended up only $1K ahead. Next thing you know I was down $8K! I pulled a ten K marker, lost a thousand here and there, pressed into a player run, 500, 1000, 1500, 2000, 2500, 3000, 3500 and had the whole 8K back immediately (I did lose the last hand for 4000 with 300 on the side for the dealer, that hurt, but still that run got me back to 18000), and I then paid back the ten. Then, not so long afterwards, I was down 8K again! I pulled a ten again. I then put 4000 on bank, WON, 4000 on bank again, WON, and repaid the second ten K marker.

From that point on I played very conservatively. By the end of the fifth shoe, things weren't really going anywhere, I was ahead $1000. just like yesterday, and I quit. Bam! $32,000. to the good for the entire trip. I will cash the 15,000 in chips just before we leave for a check. They will temp close my line for cashing so much, but the way to do that is upon departure, when it no longer matters.

Pit boss told me he gave me credit for five hours today, at 1500 average.

We leave tomorrow, and I do not play on checkout days. MDAWG PREVAILS YET AGAIN.

Wife didn't want to go out so I got some high end restaurant food from the second level, and brought it up to the suite. This morning the host already texted me that she was comp'ing everything except tips and retail, including all spa services that my wife got. Nice. Can you see why when I get to Vegas I never want to leave?

Over two weeks in Vegas first class in the top suites, fun gambling, and winning. And I am able to handle my business while away as well as attend to the office building we bought here.
What's not to like?
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March 4th, 2020 at 11:40:05 AM permalink
LOL. Couldn't make it 4 posts without dropping the facade. Sad. Now you'll be nuked.
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March 4th, 2020 at 12:35:02 PM permalink
Quote: HostVIP3tables

Oh yes. Most certainly, but at least MDawg does not live in North Las Vegas, LOL!

Final results for this trip, $32,000. to the good!
CosmoWin_32K_3_2_2020.JPG
That brings the total between even just the past two trips, at almost sixty K. MDAWG IS A WINNER.

I won those fifty cent pieces on a couple of odd amount Bank 6 winners where I was paid half (I was playing the commissionless Bacc. table again today). The dealer suggested I hold on to them as continued luck for the next trip.

Today was a bit tumultuous though. I was up, just like yesterday, around $6K but it was after just two or three shoes, and I kept playing. I was trying to get to ten K today, thinking okay that will make up for the 4K I didn't get yesterday where I ended up only $1K ahead. Next thing you know I was down $8K! I pulled a ten K marker, lost a thousand here and there, pressed into a player run, 500, 1000, 1500, 2000, 2500, 3000, 3500 and had the whole 8K back immediately (I did lose the last hand for 4000 with 300 on the side for the dealer, that hurt, but still that run got me back to 18000), and I then paid back the ten. Then, not so long afterwards, I was down 8K again! I pulled a ten again. I then put 4000 on bank, WON, 4000 on bank again, WON, and repaid the second ten K marker.

From that point on I played very conservatively. By the end of the fifth shoe, things weren't really going anywhere, I was ahead $1000. just like yesterday, and I quit. Bam! $32,000. to the good for the entire trip. I will cash the 15,000 in chips just before we leave for a check. They will temp close my line for cashing so much, but the way to do that is upon departure, when it no longer matters.

Pit boss told me he gave me credit for five hours today, at 1500 average.

We leave tomorrow, and I do not play on checkout days. MDAWG PREVAILS YET AGAIN.

Wife didn't want to go out so I got some high end restaurant food from the second level, and brought it up to the suite. This morning the host already texted me that she was comp'ing everything except tips and retail, including all spa services that my wife got. Nice. Can you see why when I get to Vegas I never want to leave?

Over two weeks in Vegas first class in the top suites, fun gambling, and winning. And I am able to handle my business while away as well as attend to the office building we bought here.
What's not to like?



Saving this post to prove MDAWG is admitting this is a sock account.

MDawg and HostVIP3tables are banned, nuclear option, for sock accounts and generating an account just to insult and attack a member, multiple personal insults to multiple members.

Edit: after substantial review, it appears most likely there is a third party attempting to troll this and other forums using mdawg as a tool. I am retracting the nuke on mdawg and assuming positive intent on his part, while leaving the nuke in place for HostVIPTables. Mdawg will be returned to regular membership status on March 12 as scheduled.
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March 4th, 2020 at 12:49:31 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Saving this post to prove MDAWG is admitting this is a sock account.

MDawg and HostVIP3tables are banned, nuclear option, for sock accounts and generating an account just to insult and attack a member, multiple personal insults to multiple members.



While I am not disputing whether MDawg and Host are in fact the same person (and maybe there’s other evidence like IP address), I didn’t read the above post as an admission. In a prior post by Host (looks like it’s been deleted since) Host said he was going to copy a post from MDawg on a different forum to this forum. I believe that’s what the post you quote is: the first few lines are Host, then it’s a copy of an MDawg post on another forum.
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March 4th, 2020 at 12:50:47 PM permalink
This is kind of like how the B79 stuff wet down.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 4th, 2020 at 12:52:38 PM permalink
Quote: Mendoza

i find the mdawg!

!still he winning!





Mendoza - you like winning big gambling reports? - I have one for you - maybe the greatest of all time

Bill Benter and his cohort Alan Woods made close to $1 billion betting horses in Hong Kong

they had a falling out - and split up - when Alan Woods died his estate was worth $900 million - all from gambling

enjoy


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-03/the-gambler-who-cracked-the-horse-racing-code
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March 4th, 2020 at 12:55:06 PM permalink
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Saving this post to prove MDAWG is admitting this is a sock account.

MDawg and HostVIP3tables are banned, nuclear option, for sock accounts and generating an account just to insult and attack a member, multiple personal insults to multiple members.



Thanks. Taking that under advisement.
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March 4th, 2020 at 1:26:39 PM permalink
I'm not sure if Host and MDawg are the same person.... Host PM'd me to ask if Axelwolf and I engage in sexual acts with one another... LOL

I could be wrong, but that doesn't seem like MDawg's MO. He's never been rude to me before, and I've actually been defending him to some degree.

Sorry, Host... if you're reading this after your ban, I've never met Axelwolf, but I can assure you he most certainly isn't my "type."
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March 4th, 2020 at 2:21:30 PM permalink
Note to anyone....do not create an account to repost (from elsewhere) the exploits of a formerly banned or suspended member.

Wasn’t MDawg due back soon anyway?

He couldn’t wait? LOL.

Or there’s a certain casino host that MDawg wants to ring his neck.

As they say in LALA Land...That’s a wrap.
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March 4th, 2020 at 4:56:47 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Host PM'd me to ask if Axelwolf and I engage in sexual acts with one another... LOL
"

how'd they know?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 4th, 2020 at 6:23:13 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

I'm not sure if Host and MDawg are the same person....

I could be wrong, but that doesn't seem like MDawg's MO...


I agree. I've been following MD since he became active here, and more recently on another forum, and the tone of Host's post is like a hollow echo of MD's usual "voice". Plus, some of the details are almost a cut and paste of his "Adventures" posts on the other site. This could be a set up. Of course if there is IP evidence, or some other smoking gun showing this was a sock, then that's that and the nuke is deserved.
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March 4th, 2020 at 6:37:35 PM permalink
Well he is elsewhere and has a new set of detractors. Singer substituting for Rooster.
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March 4th, 2020 at 11:44:44 PM permalink
I would be very surprised if Host and MDawg are the same person.

So do the administrators here let you know if the IP address is the same, or do they just ban and hope you'll take their word for it all?
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March 5th, 2020 at 6:54:11 AM permalink
Tend to agree

What proof? Or just striking out blindly at an account you don’t see eye to eye with.

iP match?
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March 5th, 2020 at 7:04:56 AM permalink
Quote: linksjunkie

Tend to agree

What proof? Or just striking out blindly at an account you don’t see eye to eye with.

iP match?



There are rules against cross-posting from other sites and against thumbtacking, also against personal insults. Whether or not this was a sockpuppet should only minimally affect the punishment. What do you figure the best case outcome of your post is?
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March 5th, 2020 at 7:16:17 AM permalink
Quote: linksjunkie

Tend to agree

What proof? Or just striking out blindly at an account you don’t see eye to eye with.

iP match?



Remember, this forum is not a democracy. The Wizard and his moderators periodically use their discretion to eliminate posters who bring down the level of discourse, for one reason or another.

If you don't like it you don't have to visit or participate.

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March 5th, 2020 at 7:22:42 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Remember, this forum is not a democracy. The Wizard and his moderators periodically use their discretion to eliminate posters who bring down the level of discourse, for one reason or another.

If you don't like it you don't have to visit or participate.

What's your favorite golf course?


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March 5th, 2020 at 7:32:23 AM permalink
Central Ohio Cook’s Creek back in the early 2000’s. Was a top notch public course. Unfortunately not so good anymore

Of course muirfield for the Memorial always a good time.
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March 5th, 2020 at 7:35:20 AM permalink
On another note. Definitely agree with banning of the potential sock. Just not sure if MDawg should have been nuked.

Once again. Just my two cents.
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March 5th, 2020 at 7:51:08 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Remember, this forum is not a democracy. The Wizard and his moderators periodically use their discretion to eliminate posters who bring down the level of discourse, for one reason or another.

If you don't like it you don't have to visit or participate.

What's your favorite golf course?



I agree with SOOPOO. The "level of discourse" on this site is, I think, more akin to Buckingham Palace than a site with high stakes gamblers.

I just do not understand the rationale for banning MDawg. If a member is suspended, and someone else imports his posts from another site, then the member whose posts get imported is banned? So if Axelwolf, for example, is suspended, and I import his posts from another site, I can get Axelwolf banned? That seems insane. But it is Buckingham Palace, as SOOPOO pointed out, so what do I know?
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March 5th, 2020 at 10:26:58 AM permalink
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What's your favorite golf course?



Torrey Pines is a nice stroll for a public course.
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March 5th, 2020 at 10:33:19 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

I was just perusing the forum rules and came across this:



Perhaps if MDawg's thread were moved from Trip Reports to Betting Systems, it would quell some of the complaints about his adventures.



Simply create a new sub forum. I'd call it the fiction section but Mike will probably be more tactful.
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March 5th, 2020 at 10:41:09 AM permalink
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Simply create a new sub forum. I'd call it the fiction section but Mike will probably be more tactful.



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March 5th, 2020 at 12:27:13 PM permalink
We're continuing to look at this situation. It's quite complicated, and I don't wish to be unfair. Thanks for your patience, and please note that Mdawg's earlier suspension is still in effect, so there has been no practical change to his membership by listing him as a nuke at the moment. Thank you.
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March 5th, 2020 at 12:50:29 PM permalink
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We're continuing to look at this situation. It's quite complicated, and I don't wish to be unfair. Thanks for your patience, and please note that Mdawg's earlier suspension is still in effect, so there has been no practical change to his membership by listing him as a nuke at the moment. Thank you.



Measure twice, cut once. No need to rush this.
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March 5th, 2020 at 1:08:06 PM permalink
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We're continuing to look at this situation. It's quite complicated, and I don't wish to be unfair. Thanks for your patience



You’re welcome. I have enough patience to last well through the summer, if the mods need that kind of time
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March 5th, 2020 at 5:05:01 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

We're continuing to look at this situation. It's quite complicated, and I don't wish to be unfair. Thanks for your patience...


Thanks for keeping an open mind on the sock issue. MD's Las Vegas place-and-time narratives from the last several months, both here and on the other forum, stand up to scrutiny. Based on his contemporaneous posts in the other forum, he seems to have been in transit when "Host's" post was made.

I do not vouch for his narratives regarding his play...that's a completely different issue.
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March 6th, 2020 at 7:19:29 AM permalink
I'm predicting that MDawg will get martingaled or banned.


Wiz said doxxing is the most serious rule to break here. MDawg searched and disclosed on Gambling Forum the location of a WoV member's condo, revealing not the address but that somebody died by meth OD next door, from which you could zero in with research. While he's not doing that here, a sockpuppet copied his post and brought it over here. While he didn't technically violate a member's privacy here, he planted the seed of doxxing on a site with banned members from WOV. He's an accessory before the fact; he indirectly encourages doxxing here.
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March 6th, 2020 at 7:24:10 AM permalink
Quote: Quadriga

I'm predicting that McDawg will get martingaled or banned.


Wiz said doxxing is the most serious rule to break here. McDawg searched and disclosed on Gambling Forum the location of a WoV member's condo, revealing not the address but that somebody died by meth OD next door, from which you could zero in with research. While he's not doing that here, a sockpuppet copied his post and brought it over here. While he didn't technically violate a member's privacy here, he planted the seed of doxxing on a site with banned members from WOV. He's an accessory before the fact; he indirectly encourages doxxing here.



LOL. Quadriga -- was this a parody post? You just did the same thing that you accused the MDawg of doing, only you did it on this site directly. So that would make you an accessory after the fact to before the fact and would be a directly indirect encouraging of doxing.

Actually, I assume this is a parody post, and it's scathingly brilliant. Kudos.

Although, if that's the case, then I just did the same thing, except mine is a cousin twice removed. Indirectly directly indirectly encouraging doxing. This is like some evil grade B horror movie with an app that tells you when you'll die.
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