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ManFromBaccarat
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September 2nd, 2019 at 11:43:47 AM permalink
Says im a new user and cant post videos, but if you know how to fit this:

(Link removed by Mod. No promoting your scam system without previous approval of management.)


into a well known video sites url then do:


Maybe i can get my post count up in here and replace the link instead of wasting time posting in random threads, and eventually getting those posts deleted anyway.

back to the subject.

All i can say is, Mike Shackleford is WRONG!
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ThatDonGuy
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September 2nd, 2019 at 11:58:40 AM permalink
Er, if you go to the video, all it does is show two runs - one of 2080 shoes, and one of 10,000 - where he shows a profit.

No mention whatsoever of how many tries it took to get those numbers. If you run enough sets of shoes, you will eventually find one that has a large enough profit.

The only other thing on the site is a link to a GoFundMe page, where "a friend of" the poster says that he will release the secret...when he gets £1,000,000 pledged.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 12:24:46 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Er, if you go to the video, all it does is show two runs - one of 2080 shoes, and one of 10,000 - where he shows a profit.

No mention whatsoever of how many tries it took to get those numbers. If you run enough sets of shoes, you will eventually find one that has a large enough profit.

The only other thing on the site is a link to a GoFundMe page, where "a friend of" the poster says that he will release the secret...when he gets £1,000,000 pledged.



I'll pledge a dollar once he gets 950,000 pounds elsewhere.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 12:29:18 PM permalink
Quote: ManFromBaccarat

All i can say is, Mike Shackleford is WRONG!

about Baccarat?
the video is a scam made by a scammer PERIOD
this is also my opinion
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September 2nd, 2019 at 12:29:25 PM permalink
Why are you posting a secret system when you could be making millions playing baccarat?

Also, you can post links without the video. (At least I think so, unless they changed it).
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September 2nd, 2019 at 10:55:59 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Er, if you go to the video, all it does is show two runs - one of 2080 shoes, and one of 10,000 - where he shows a profit.

No mention whatsoever of how many tries it took to get those numbers. If you run enough sets of shoes, you will eventually find one that has a large enough profit.

The only other thing on the site is a link to a GoFundMe page, where "a friend of" the poster says that he will release the secret...when he gets £1,000,000 pledged.



i can run a simulation at any time anyone tells me, for any timezone, on the spot ill use an online clock and click run, thats a fact

the video was actually one take, just with titles in between.

That is my friend who posted the gofundme, i said ill post the video on a few forums i know

and to the poster person who edited my first post, if you think its a scam, tell Michael Shackleford to up his challenge prizemoney to 1,000,000 withput the other person having to put up a penny, what is he scared of
ManFromBaccarat
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September 2nd, 2019 at 10:57:58 PM permalink
Quote: 7craps

about Baccarat?
the video is a scam made by a scammer PERIOD

this is also my opinion



you guys cry like a bunch of women when you finally see someone that knows how to gamble .... yes i wont share it for less than 1,000,000 , i tried to get a bank loan, you can tell how that went.
ManFromBaccarat
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September 2nd, 2019 at 10:59:17 PM permalink
Quote: Gandler

Why are you posting a secret system when you could be making millions playing baccarat?

Also, you can post links without the video. (At least I think so, unless they changed it).



It says why at the end of the video, and again, ive tried to get a loan.
ManFromBaccarat
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September 2nd, 2019 at 11:06:09 PM permalink
Is this how you would of treated Edward Thorpe? I guess it is.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 11:06:41 PM permalink
Quote: ManFromBaccarat

... tell Michael Shackleford to up his challenge prizemoney to 1,000,000 withput the other person having to put up a penny, what is he scared of



Most likely you having to borrow the penny to pay him. You can't get a bank loan because it's fake. Nobody here is going to believe you because it's fake. Casinos will laugh at your system because it's fake. You will never have enough money to not peddle the system and just keep it to yourself for huge profits because its fake.


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ManFromBaccarat
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September 2nd, 2019 at 11:10:24 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Most likely you having to borrow the penny to pay him. You can't get a bank loan because it's fake. Nobody here is going to believe you because it's fake. Casinos will laugh at your system because it's fake. You will never have enough money to not peddle the system and just keep it to yourself for huge profits because its fake.


ZCore13



at 10am BST im gonna record a video, showing enldess runs of 2080 shoes (until them sim freezes, because it does)... im gonna save the charts and post them, and let me see what you guys are gonna say then.
ManFromBaccarat
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September 2nd, 2019 at 11:25:51 PM permalink
Quote: ManFromBaccarat

at 10am BST im gonna record a video, showing enldess runs of 2080 shoes (until them sim freezes, because it does)... im gonna save the charts and post them, and let me see what you guys are gonna say then.



actually ill record it at 8am, whos got time to wait.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 12:26:44 AM permalink
Quote: ManFromBaccarat

you guys cry like a bunch of women when you finally see someone that knows how to gamble .... yes i wont share it for less than 1,000,000 , i tried to get a bank loan, you can tell how that went.

a scam NEEDS people that are way more stupider than the scammer.
ain't happening around here

take your goods and sell them to... Oh, the Russians.
They have LOTS of money to throw away.

what a total loser scammer
even cries like a baby
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September 3rd, 2019 at 1:04:42 AM permalink
Quote: ManFromBaccarat

you guys cry like a bunch of women ...




Quote: 7craps

what a total loser scammer even cries like a baby



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September 3rd, 2019 at 1:29:35 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard


Did you see this where he was quoting 7craps???
Quote: ManFromBaccarat


you guys cry like a bunch of women when you finally see someone that knows how to gamble .... yes i wont share it for less than 1,000,000 , i tried to get a bank loan, you can tell how that went.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 3rd, 2019 at 2:15:34 AM permalink
User nuked, primarily for trying to create a second user ID MFB1Post and for effectively trying to sell or monetize his system.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 2:29:39 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

User nuked, primarily for trying to create a second user ID MFB1Post and for effectively trying to sell or monetize his system.

even a blind squirrel.🤣
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 3rd, 2019 at 4:19:48 PM permalink
Hmmm...not only has the YouTube video been "removed by the user," but the GoFundMe page has disappeared as well
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September 3rd, 2019 at 5:06:26 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Hmmm...not only has the YouTube video been "removed by the user," but the GoFundMe page has disappeared as well



Shucky darn. Can't imagine how that could have happened. It's not like you can report scammers to youtube and GoFundMe or anything....
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September 3rd, 2019 at 5:21:11 PM permalink
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Shucky darn. Can't imagine how that could have happened. It's not like you can report scammers to youtube and GoFundMe or anything....



I hope he won't mind me saying that he asked that I delete this thread, which I declined to do.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 6:05:32 PM permalink
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Shucky darn. Can't imagine how that could have happened. It's not like you can report scammers to youtube and GoFundMe or anything....

there should be a law specifically for mathematically unproven gambling systems being touted.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 4th, 2019 at 1:58:10 AM permalink
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mathematically unproven gambling systems .

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September 4th, 2019 at 9:27:12 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

there should be a law specifically for mathematically unproven gambling systems being touted.



I would imagine that it could be considered fraud if they claim it changes HE?
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September 4th, 2019 at 9:42:27 AM permalink
Here’s the secret to baccarat: find the lowest table minimum you can find. Bet table minimum on banker whoever you do bet. Sit out as many hands as you can, using whatever excuse you can think of. Order as many drinks as you can while keeping to the system above (tip your server). If others at the table are personable, chat with them. If not, try another table. Continue steps above for as long as it’s enjoyable and you haven’t exceeded your stop loss number for the day/trip.
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September 4th, 2019 at 10:05:43 AM permalink
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Quote: Gandler

I would imagine that it could be considered fraud if they claim it changes HE?

I'm not sure, it should be. They might have a good case if they were to sue civilly depending on how it was presented.

Remember there was a story a while back ago how about some guy who was arrested and charged for some type of crap scam he had going. If I recall correctly, it had something to do with him getting investors after he pretended to be winning big money while they observed him playing craps. It was all a big ruse in order to get noticed by people. They would then approached him wanting to invest and his crap system or whatever it was. He may have just taken their money and ran without ever playing craps. I have no clue anymore how it all went down. iI was actually a very interesting story.

It's a good example of why people should be skeptical of guys on the Forums making all these fantastic big money claims. Not everything is as It seems. People posting up jackpot pictures, pictures of cats rolling in money, this that and the other thing. Big deal, you have no clue what's actually going on with all that stuff.

What's that old saying? location, location, location.

When it comes to gambling , AFTER you have checked the math... When it comes to that person, the situation and the math.... VERIFY, VERIFY ,VERIFY.

Then verify the verifier's and then verify everything again.
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September 4th, 2019 at 10:15:07 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

there should be a law specifically for mathematically unproven gambling systems being touted.




that's never ever going to happen
there's no laws against psychics



our legal system tolerates all sorts of shadiness in the name of free enterprise
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September 4th, 2019 at 10:24:32 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

that's never ever going to happen
there's no laws against psychics



our legal system tolerates all sorts of shadiness in the name of free enterprise

Unfortunately I believe you're correct on that.
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September 4th, 2019 at 1:27:41 PM permalink
Seems legit
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September 4th, 2019 at 1:29:56 PM permalink
I never understand why people who have a system that supposedly works would ever sell it if legit. Casinos are not in the business of losing money. If a loophole were ever found the casino would close it immediately. I really don’t get trying to get a loan. If the system works just use it to raise money. I can’t imagine a worse endorsement of a winning system than the person touting it needs to borrow money.
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September 4th, 2019 at 5:13:01 PM permalink
Quote: es330td

I really don’t get trying to get a loan. If the system works just use it to raise money.



my casino will give you a loan to gamble if you have enough whatever it is they look for
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September 5th, 2019 at 3:17:38 AM permalink
They do an analysis to determine your capacity to repay. The high roller I accompany to Vegas has a line with the various casinos he gambles at. The person has to get approved by the VIP services office. Basically, if one has money they will loan you money.
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September 5th, 2019 at 7:10:11 AM permalink
Quote: es330td

I never understand why people who have a system that supposedly works would ever sell it if legit. Casinos are not in the business of losing money. If a loophole were ever found the casino would close it immediately. I really don’t get trying to get a loan. If the system works just use it to raise money. I can’t imagine a worse endorsement of a winning system than the person touting it needs to borrow money.



To be clear, I know the system is NOT LEGIT. And it IS a scam, of course.

However, to answer your question, if you were consistently winning big money at a casino they would likely ban you. They may not know why or how. And there are many loopholes that the casinos have been unable to close. There are about a dozen members here who make their entire income by exploiting these loopholes.

If I found a 'loophole' that would guarantee you $100, but you could only do it once, meaning I could only do it once also, wouldn't it make sense for me to try and sell it to as many people as possible for $50?
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