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varmenti
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September 21st, 2013 at 6:01:41 PM permalink
Baccarat Partner Betting

Here it is Guys 'n Gals

The perfect betting progression for Partners in Baccarat or just a single player betting both sides.

Player A always Bets Banker / Player B Always Bets Player.



Any time you lose start back at 0 Position.

Simple goal is to bank a $200.00 profit at each table and move to new shoe or End after a streak of 6 or more.

REMEMBER: Casinos are open 24 hrs/day so don't try to break the bank all in one day. Simply start with a $1000.00 Bank roll and stop when you reach a realistic goal of $1000-2000 /day.

Have fun!!!!!
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September 21st, 2013 at 6:06:38 PM permalink
Casinos will love this system.
I just wonder what idiots are ever going to bet against themselves all night long?
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September 21st, 2013 at 6:15:25 PM permalink
Have you ever actually played this? Why do I doubt
it somehow.
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varmenti
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September 21st, 2013 at 6:22:32 PM permalink
Exactly my point. Everyone thinks its nuts while you walk away with 500 & 1000.00 chips. I'm just sharing what I do presently at the Casinos. So if you like it, God bless and if you don't... well... no comment.
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September 21st, 2013 at 6:28:17 PM permalink
Quote: varmenti

Any time you lose start back at 0 Position.

I bet you start at the "0 position" a lot.
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September 21st, 2013 at 6:33:49 PM permalink
This is the reason why people don't share their Money management Secrets, is because of stupid comments like this. "I bet you start at the "0 position" a lot." DON'T GAMBLE IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY BACCARAT!!!!!!!
"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" <br> "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " <br> "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" <br> "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."
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September 21st, 2013 at 6:35:15 PM permalink
Quote: varmenti

DON'T GAMBLE IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY BACCARAT!!!!!!!



Or, alternatively, JUST PICK A GAME THAT IS ACTUALLY BEATABLE!!!!!!!
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September 21st, 2013 at 6:36:15 PM permalink
Hi Bob, Yes I play Pretty well every morning new shoes start 10am est. @ Fallsview Casino.
"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" <br> "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " <br> "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" <br> "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."
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September 21st, 2013 at 6:37:42 PM permalink
There is no IP Match with Varmenti, before someone asks.
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September 21st, 2013 at 6:42:01 PM permalink
Gambling is gambling rdw4potus. Have fun with your game of choice. My choice is Baccarat because of the consistent streak being 6 in a row with many times tables will hit as high as 13 bankers / Players in a row.
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September 21st, 2013 at 6:48:29 PM permalink
Quote: varmenti

This is the reason why people don't share their Money management Secrets, is because of stupid comments like this.

Are you claiming that you can win consistently at baccarat through "money management"? (Geez, talk about stupid comments)


Quote: varmenti

Everyone thinks its nuts while you walk away with 500 & 1000.00 chips.

I can walk away with $500 and $1000 chips of my own money, too. Winning those chips is another matter.
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September 21st, 2013 at 6:55:51 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

There is no IP Match with Varmenti, before someone asks.



What does IP matching have to do with General Gambling forum. I'm a New member located in Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada. So if this forum is to possibly be used to hijack peoples computers then be honest with meand i'll gladly move on and not share my 25 years casino experiences.

I'm just hear to chat with new friends who also share an interest in Gambling and Perks for Casinos worldwide.
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September 21st, 2013 at 7:01:18 PM permalink
Quote: varmenti

Gambling is gambling rdw4potus. Have fun with your game of choice. My choice is Baccarat because of the consistent streak being 6 in a row with many times tables will hit as high as 13 bankers / Players in a row.



Sure, gambling is gambling. I'm just saying that counting at blackjack is a way to actually move the odds into your favor. Money management in bacc is not (or any game).
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September 21st, 2013 at 7:05:18 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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September 21st, 2013 at 7:07:39 PM permalink
Quote: varmenti

What does IP matching have to do with General Gambling forum. I'm a New member located in Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada. So if this forum is to possibly be used to hijack peoples computers then be honest with meand i'll gladly move on and not share my 25 years casino experiences.

I'm just hear to chat with new friends who also share an interest in Gambling and Perks for Casinos worldwide.



No, it has nothing to do with that. We have a fairly well-known Member who often speaks of his system for beating Baccarat, so every time someone else comes on here to discuss the same thing, I inevitably receive a PM asking if there is an IP match in order to enforce a ban pursuant to the Rule against multiple accounts. I was just letting everyone know I had already checked it, so no reason to send any such PM.
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September 21st, 2013 at 7:15:45 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Sure, gambling is gambling. I'm just saying that counting at blackjack is a way to actually move the odds into your favor. Money management in bacc is not (or any game).



Played Blackjack for quite a few years back in the day and you are correct but even counting along with basic strategy can't give you streaks like baccarat. Back in 1998 I started creating a "Flash Count Strategy" for black jack for One bet hit n' run quick cash, but it catches up to you.
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September 21st, 2013 at 7:21:53 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Are you claiming that you can win consistently at baccarat through "money management"? (Geez, talk about stupid comments)


I can walk away with $500 and $1000 chips of my own money, too. Winning those chips is another matter.



Simply saying I've been winning consistently at the game of Baccarat for a few months now since moving to Niagara Falls. Just wanted to share they way I bet. Try it at home and you will understand how it works. It does look silly on Paper.
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September 21st, 2013 at 7:33:34 PM permalink
Quote: varmenti

Simply saying I've been winning consistently at the game of Baccarat for a few months now since moving to Niagara Falls. Just wanted to share they way I bet. Try it at home and you will understand how it works. It does look silly on Paper.


Consistently for a few months? LOL!
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September 21st, 2013 at 8:04:05 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Quote: varmenti

Simply saying I've been winning consistently at the game of Baccarat for a few months now since moving to Niagara Falls. Just wanted to share they way I bet. Try it at home and you will understand how it works. It does look silly on Paper.


Consistently for a few months? LOL!



Well, I've been a new member on here for just an hour and already i'm getting the impression that there are many LOSERS on here and no one who likes to have a civil conversation, and think everything is just funny... Sorry to waste everyone's time.

ATTENTION to the admin... Please delete me as a member. I'm sorry too have found this forum.
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September 21st, 2013 at 8:06:15 PM permalink
Let's all flag the first post in this thread to remove all record of this "system".
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September 21st, 2013 at 8:25:34 PM permalink
Quote: varmenti

Baccarat Partner Betting

Here it is Guys 'n Gals

The perfect betting progression for Partners in Baccarat or just a single player betting both sides.

Player A always Bets Banker / Player B Always Bets Player.

Uh, you're guaranteed to lose 5% of your wager about every other hand, and push every other hand. Sounds like a great system to me!
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September 21st, 2013 at 8:28:07 PM permalink
Quote: varmenti

...there are many LOSERS on here

LOL...the only guaranteed "loser" here is your system.


Quote: varmenti

ATTENTION to the admin... Please delete me as a member.

Why do you need to be deleted? Just stop logging in if you don't want to post anymore.
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September 21st, 2013 at 8:28:14 PM permalink
This is what I'm not understanding; taking both sides in an even money game with commission, I'm not seeing where the pair gets up with any profit ever.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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September 21st, 2013 at 8:30:11 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Let's all flag the first post in this thread to remove all record of this "system".


LOL
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September 21st, 2013 at 8:38:15 PM permalink
Quote: varmenti

DON'T GAMBLE IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY BACCARAT!!!!!!!



Seriously? You must be pulling our leg with all this.
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September 21st, 2013 at 8:39:40 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I'm not seeing where the pair gets up with any profit ever.



It doesn't, that's what's so entertaining here. He
seems to think it does. It looks good on your kitchen
table, in the casino you visit the ATM a lot.
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September 21st, 2013 at 8:46:59 PM permalink
I think he means to bet both then whichever side wins to press and then keep pressing up to 6 wins in arow.As soon as a side loses you revert to one unit.
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September 21st, 2013 at 8:50:54 PM permalink
OK, I see where he's going. Some kind of positive Martingale while hedging with the partner's win on his loss. So, for example,

Without messing with commission calcs:

P 100 B 100 B wins =0
P 100 B 200 B wins =+100
P 100 B 400 P wins = -200
P 200 B 100 P wins = -100

like that (if I'm following his post correctly), and surviving somehow until they get a positive result that meets target and both get up. Reset point maybe 3inarow or 4inarow or it would turn negative very quickly. Still a null bet long-term, I would think, but if they hit-and-run, maybe.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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September 21st, 2013 at 8:52:44 PM permalink
It's amazing how a person can take a simple system that sucks and turn it into a complicated system that sucks.
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September 21st, 2013 at 8:58:26 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

It's amazing how a person can take a simple system that sucks and turn it into a complicated system that sucks.



This is as close as I've come in about a year now to changing my tagline. Well said! :-)
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September 21st, 2013 at 8:58:36 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

I think he means to bet both then whichever side wins to press and then keep pressing up to 6 wins in arow.As soon as a side loses you revert to one unit.



It works on the short term.

Thank you for the idea, and thanks you for the pressing suggestion.
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September 21st, 2013 at 8:59:40 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

It's amazing how a person can take a simple system that sucks and turn it into a complicated system that sucks.



+1
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September 21st, 2013 at 9:01:34 PM permalink
Quote: wroberson

It works on the short term.
.



So does any Martingale. Knock yourself out.
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September 21st, 2013 at 9:02:00 PM permalink
Don`t thank me,It`s a dumb losing system.I was just trying to say what I think he meant.
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September 21st, 2013 at 9:44:08 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

It's amazing how a person can take a simple system that sucks and turn it into a complicated system that sucks.

+1 ...Ya that made me laugh
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September 21st, 2013 at 10:02:59 PM permalink
Time after time its the same BS posts about bunk systems. Is there a deep dark crevice these nonsense posts can be placed in?

Why can't someone post about a system that actually works?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 21st, 2013 at 10:07:59 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf



Why can't someone post about a system that actually works?



That's the funniest thing in this whole thread. Would YOU
post a system that works on a public forum?
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September 21st, 2013 at 10:59:26 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

That's the funniest thing in this whole thread. Would YOU
post a system that works on a public forum?

There are plenty of Blackjack,Video Poker,sports systems that work and they are no big secret (anymore}. Most people don't have the mindset or creative thinking to take advantage of it even when property educated. Even people with the skills needed, give up if they run bad in the beginning. I can only imagine if when I had started, I played something with a small edge. Unlike what i played, where i was guaranteed to win most days, even with out big hands and never lose more then a couple of hundred at worst. I didn't hit a Royal for months and months at the beginning.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 12:12:00 AM permalink
This is not a real thread is it? I am absolutely dumbfounded
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September 22nd, 2013 at 12:20:19 AM permalink
Quote: varmenti

Well, I've been a new member on here for just an hour and already i'm getting the impression that there are many LOSERS on here and no one who likes to have a civil conversation, and think everything is just funny... Sorry to waste everyone's time.

ATTENTION to the admin... Please delete me as a member. I'm sorry too have found this forum.



We don't delete Members, however, if you wish to voluntarily resign as a Member, I can do that.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 12:51:38 AM permalink
I don't wish to resign, maybe I just posted something in the wrong place at the wrong time. Maybe I should not have shared my winning Betting progression that has made me money very consistently. I don't have to beg anyone to listen to me, it's just something i put out there for those interested.

Anyone who plays baccarat at Fallsview Casino in Niagara Falls are more than welcome to drop by my table and say hello.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 1:02:43 AM permalink
I work there as a dealer but no bacc for me. As for the bashing you are taking here, defend yourself, some of the guys on here are pretty sharp while most are just lonely guys in their parents basement hating everything.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 1:42:49 AM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

As for the bashing you are taking here, defend yourself


Did you read his "winning" system? There's simply nothing to defend.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 1:43:54 AM permalink
Quote: varmenti

...my winning Betting progression that has made me money very consistently.


Just because you won with it doesn't make it a "winning" system.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 1:48:37 AM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

I work there as a dealer

some of the guys on here are pretty sharp while most are just lonely guys in their parents basement hating everything.

"I work there as a dealer" Sorry to hear that.........just kidding

Well im fu)ked, I only wish I was sharp or I lived in my mothers basement rent free, free food, free cable, "Mom i need a 20".....don't knock it

So many people come boasting of their "winning systems" yet no one ever proves it.They all say they don't want to divulge their system because of various nonsensical reasons.

So why yap about it in the first place? Just Do it, be happy, buys some friends, take pictures of your cash, women and luxurious lifestyle.

I just want one guy to come on here post proof of his dismal financial situation. Then simply say, hey guys I now have a winning system, I wont say what it is but ill see you in 6 months. Fast forward 6 months.... BAM !! next thing you know he is at a strip club making it rain, spraying girls with Cristal, while sending us updated Facebook and twitter links.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 22nd, 2013 at 5:13:33 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf



I just want one guy to come on here post proof of his dismal financial situation. Then simply say, hey guys I now have a winning system, I wont say what it is but ill see you in 6 months. Fast forward 6 months.... BAM !! next thing you know he is at a strip club making it rain, spraying girls with Cristal, while sending us updated Facebook and twitter links.




That's what I'm waiting for......I'm guessing it's going to be a long wait.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 6:22:30 AM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

... some of the guys on here are pretty sharp while most are just lonely guys in their parents grandchildren's basement hating everything.


fixed your post ;)
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September 22nd, 2013 at 6:44:24 AM permalink
Quote: varmenti

I don't wish to resign, maybe I just posted something in the wrong place at the wrong time.


You ARE posting in the correct place (the Betting Systems forum). But maybe try looking at (and responding to) the substance of the responses.

Here's the Wizard's analysis of betting systems, in case you missed it:

https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/betting-systems/
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September 22nd, 2013 at 8:54:36 AM permalink
Quote: varmenti

Baccarat Partner Betting

Here it is Guys 'n Gals

The perfect betting progression for Partners in Baccarat or just a single player betting both sides.

Player A always Bets Banker / Player B Always Bets Player.


Have fun!!!!!

Thanks
where did your betting sequence go?
I saw it yesterday one time?
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
Lilchef62
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September 22nd, 2013 at 10:20:47 PM permalink
I also work as a dealer at that Casino and do see on many occasions a slightly older couple playing together in the Baccarat pit. A very cheerful couple who enjoy their stay making personal bets about loser doing the dishes or laundry and betting somewhat in a strange way.
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