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Jmarch79
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June 8th, 2018 at 4:06:45 PM permalink
In other news, while previously your Total Rewards Diamond, Golden Nugget Chairman, Tropicana Platinum and Borgata Gold was only worth the Platinum Tier at Ocean Resort Casino, now just stop by the Hard Rock first and upgrade the cards mentioned to Hard Rock's Rock Royalty. Hard Rock's Rock Royalty is worth Ocean's top tier, Black card.

It is worth taking this line from Hard Rock's tier match fine print: "The opposing property loyalty card must be in good condition with the name of the primary guest on the reservation. Expired cards will not be accepted with the exception of previous Taj Mahal card holders."
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June 8th, 2018 at 4:25:48 PM permalink
Here is the benefits by tier chart for Wild Card Rewards at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino.

Some items of interest on the chart I noticed are: In order to earn Wild Card Elite status, one must earn $250 comp dollars from June 1 - May 31. To earn Rock Royalty status, one must earn $1,000 comp dollars in the same period. Wild Card Elite members are entitled to complimentary self parking and 2X entries on drawings which is a nice perk. Rock Royalty members have complimentary self and valet parking as well as 3X entries on drawings. Rock Royalty members also have VIP lounge and buffet access for $10 comp dollars per person (member plus one guest limit.) All tiers can also use their comp dollars at all retail outlets at 1:1. They will also have a bounce back free play program for slot players.

Seems like a very strong program. Looking forward to checking it out in more detail. If it is not out before opening, I will find out the coin in to comp dollar accrual ratios, etc once I am there.
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June 8th, 2018 at 8:45:29 PM permalink
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In other news, while previously your Total Rewards Diamond, Golden Nugget Chairman, Tropicana Platinum and Borgata Gold was only worth the Platinum Tier at Ocean Resort Casino, now just stop by the Hard Rock first and upgrade the cards mentioned to Hard Rock's Rock Royalty. Hard Rock's Rock Royalty is worth Ocean's top tier, Black card.

It is worth taking this line from Hard Rock's tier match fine print: "The opposing property loyalty card must be in good condition with the name of the primary guest on the reservation. Expired cards will not be accepted with the exception of previous Taj Mahal card holders."




That's hot!
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June 8th, 2018 at 8:45:57 PM permalink
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Yes, in the world of Total Rewards, the original offer was for one night for Diamond, two for Seven Stars. I am certain this would be in addition to anyone that booked the original room offer. It is very generous of them to offer three complimentary nights with no restrictions before they've dropped a dime in the joint. I think they're exposing themselves to being burned a little too much.



I just spoke with Hard Rock AC
The way it works is Diamond gets one free night up front then, when you physically go there and they give you the Rock Royalty card, you will be given your other free night -- thusly, you are only getting a total of two free nights
I, for one, will wait until I physically show up so I can get the Rock Royalty card and then book my two nights together
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June 8th, 2018 at 9:30:50 PM permalink
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I just spoke with Hard Rock AC
The way it works is Diamond gets one free night up front then, when you physically go there and they give you the Rock Royalty card, you will be given you other free night -- thusly, you are only getting a total of two free nights
I, for one, will wait until I physically show up so I can get the Rock Royalty card and then book my two nights together



We're definitely getting conflicting information then. One weekend in August, I am already booked through a host for Friday though Monday. My girlfriend booked the Saturday night of the weekend so that her friends can stay in their own room using her CET Diamond (I did DIAD for her last year). We called with the same question you had, and were told to upgrade at the property and then she would get two additional nights.

Directly from the Hard Rock website (where the room promotion is): "Will you match my tier from another casino? Yes, we will have a tier match program when we open this summer. Signing up or redeeming this hotel offer will not exclude you from the tier match."

The tier match is a separate and distinct offer, and it clearly says taking that hotel offer will not exclude you from the tier match offer. Personally, it is in the Hard Rock's best interest to do exactly what they told you for a total of two complimentary nights. Perhaps they made that decision after getting a few callers asking the same question.

One thing is for sure, they're all in with this promo, no matter how you slice it or dice it, it's an aggressive plan to get players in the door. You could literally buy CET Diamond for around $400 via the Founders Card. Factor in the two buffets, $150 free play and two or three complimentary weekend nights and you are making money. Diamond in a Day with CET can also be done for a theoretical loss of less than $500. Factor in the Hard Rock benefits plus future CET offers based on the 50K coin in on VP in a day, and again, you're in the black. (Tip: do this on Sunday, June 24th. Every TR member is getting a free play return rewards mystery multiplier 3X-100X, pick the right game and you're positive off the top.)
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June 8th, 2018 at 9:42:49 PM permalink
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We're definitely getting conflicting information then. One weekend in August, I am already booked through a host for Friday though Monday. My girlfriend booked the Saturday night of the weekend so that her friends can stay in their own room using her CET Diamond (I did DIAD for her last year). We called with the same question you had, and were told to upgrade at the property and then she would get two additional nights.

Directly from the Hard Rock website (where the room promotion is): "Will you match my tier from another casino? Yes, we will have a tier match program when we open this summer. Signing up or redeeming this hotel offer will not exclude you from the tier match."

The tier match is a separate and distinct offer, and it clearly says taking that hotel offer will not exclude you from the tier match offer. Personally, it is in the Hard Rock's best interest to do exactly what they told you for a total of two complimentary nights. Perhaps they made that decision after getting a few callers asking the same question.

One thing is for sure, they're all in with this promo, no matter how you slice it or dice it's aggressive plan to get players in the door. You could literally buy CET Diamond for around $400 via the Founders Card. Factor in the two buffets, $150 free play and two or three complimentary weekend nights and you are making money. Diamond in a Day with CET can also be done for a theoretical loss of less than $500. Factor in the Hard Rock benefits plus future CET offers based on the 50K coin in on VP in a day, and again, you're in the black. (Tip: do this on Sunday, June 24th. Every TR member is getting a free play return rewards mystery multiplier 3X-100X, pick the right game and you're positive off the top.)



I am already Diamond but good info

As for conflicting information - I'm sure the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing yet at HRAC -- so, I guess we will all see what happens when they actually open
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June 10th, 2018 at 8:20:14 AM permalink
Dude. You're giving away the farm :)

Seriously though - thanks for this thread. It's going to be an interesting summer. Sadly, my work schedule doesn't have much mid-week freedom right now, so I'll have to fight crowds on the weekends.
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June 10th, 2018 at 1:47:06 PM permalink
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Dude. You're giving away the farm :)

Seriously though - thanks for this thread. It's going to be an interesting summer. Sadly, my work schedule doesn't have much mid-week freedom right now, so I'll have to fight crowds on the weekends.



I consider what I mentioned a super low value play, that anyone could have figured out if they thought about it. I'd never disclose any true AP plays.

Yeah, I am not looking forward to opening weekend crowds. It is going to be a crazy. Would love to hear your thoughts after your visit!
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June 10th, 2018 at 2:03:46 PM permalink
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In other news, while previously your Total Rewards Diamond, Golden Nugget Chairman, Tropicana Platinum and Borgata Gold was only worth the Platinum Tier at Ocean Resort Casino, now just stop by the Hard Rock first and upgrade the cards mentioned to Hard Rock's Rock Royalty. Hard Rock's Rock Royalty is worth Ocean's top tier, Black card.

It is worth taking this line from Hard Rock's tier match fine print: "The opposing property loyalty card must be in good condition with the name of the primary guest on the reservation. Expired cards will not be accepted with the exception of previous Taj Mahal card holders."



Does anyone know if these are provisional tier matches -- meaning they expire in 3 months if you don't maintain that level? or, are they good for the whole year?
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June 10th, 2018 at 2:31:56 PM permalink
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Does anyone know if these are provisional tier matches -- meaning they expire in 3 months if you don't maintain that level? or, are they good for the whole year?



That hasn't been explained by either property yet. A provisional tier match would be a good idea for both, but I think they're both going to roll it out for the full year.

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