Hard Rock Hotel & Casino / Ocean Resort Casino Atlantic City
Quote: Jmarch79I heard from a very reliable source the following about the blackjack and craps conditions at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino.
Blackjack: 3 to 2 on naturals on all games. All games will also offer surrender.
Craps: 5X Odds.
Wow! Any idea about Surrender at Oceans?
Quote: aceofspades
Wow! Any idea about Surrender at Oceans?
Not sure yet about surrender at Ocean.
Quote: Jmarch79I heard from a very reliable source the following about the blackjack and craps conditions at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino.
Blackjack: 3 to 2 on naturals on all games. All games will also offer surrender.
Craps: 5X Odds.
I wonder if the crap dealers remember how to pay 5x odds. Must be difficult for them going from one payoff to three different ones.
Quote: sodawater
I wonder if the crap dealers remember how to pay 5x odds. Must be difficult for them going from one payoff to three different ones.
AC is one of the few places where 5X odds on craps is the standard. When Revel opened they tried doing 3-4-5X, but in a few months changed to the market standard. Golden Nugget and Bally's even have a table or two at each that offers 10X odds.
I was at the Revel preview years ago and I will say it was kind of cool to experience. All the table games were $5 min / $5 max. I got the postcard invite to Hard Rock's preview but I will not be able to be there due to prior commitments. If anyone goes, let us know what you thought!
Whew.
Edited to replace the new opening time for Ocean. They pushed it up 2 hours due to Governor Murphy's schedule. Hard Rock will open at 11AM.
Quote: Jmarch79Just an update on the 'preview days' for Hard Rock Hotel & Casino and Ocean Resort Casino. Preview times will be from 10AM - 10PM on Monday, June 25 and Tuesday, June 26. Ocean Resort will have all of their restaurants available and will be offering a 50% off discount if you chose to dine while previewing the property. Check your inboxes for the invites if you signed up for either properties mailing list on their respective websites.
Is there a link to the 50% off announcement?
Quote: aceofspades
Is there a link to the 50% off announcement?
No, it was included in the e-mail with the invitation to the preview.
Quote: Jmarch79No, it was included in the e-mail with the invitation to the preview.
When were the emails sent out? What were the qualifications?
Quote: aceofspadesWhen were the emails sent out? What were the qualifications?
They were e-mailed randomly to people in their database and on the e-mail list. It was an invite for either Monday, June 26 or Tuesday, June 27. Some had the option to stay in the hotel at a $35 room rate. Some had a nominal amount of free play added. Also mentioned was the dining options that are available would be 50% off during this two-day preview.
Quote:He says he doesn’t have the “arrogance” of previous owners, who were looking to attract clients seeking a resort experience. The idea wasn’t crazy: Las Vegas casinos rely less on gaming revenue than Atlantic City’s do. But Deifik says the Revel emphasized the resort side at the expense of casino customers. Initially, at least, it didn’t have a VIP lounge for high rollers, nor did it have food choices aimed at its Asian players, inexpensive dining options, or a smoking area. It required customers to stay at least two nights. “If I have a room in inventory and you want to spend one night,” Deifik says, the only thing to say is, “ ‘Thank you for coming! I’m so happy you’re here! And can I get you something to drink?’ ”
Quote: TumblingBonesThere's an interview in today's Bloomberg Businessweek with the Resort's new owner Bruce Deflik. Sounds promising:
Quote:He says he doesn’t have the “arrogance” of previous owners, who were looking to attract clients seeking a resort experience. The idea wasn’t crazy: Las Vegas casinos rely less on gaming revenue than Atlantic City’s do. But Deifik says the Revel emphasized the resort side at the expense of casino customers. Initially, at least, it didn’t have a VIP lounge for high rollers, nor did it have food choices aimed at its Asian players, inexpensive dining options, or a smoking area. It required customers to stay at least two nights. “If I have a room in inventory and you want to spend one night,” Deifik says, the only thing to say is, “ ‘Thank you for coming! I’m so happy you’re here! And can I get you something to drink?’ ”
I do believe they will be eager to please. I am expecting big things from Ocean Resort. They usually say under promise and over deliver, but Ocean is setting their own bar very high. I am very excited to check out the property in less than a week!
Quote: ECoasterMeanwhile, the Showboat is opening almost 500 more rooms, new restaurant options, a fitness center, and a big arcade next week....
Is it still connected to the Hard Rock (as it was when it was the Taj)?
Quote: aceofspadesIs it still connected to the Hard Rock (as it was when it was the Taj)?
Yes.
Over at Ocean Resort Casino their full William Hill sports book in the center of the casino will open six weeks after opening as they complete its construction. On opening they will have a temporary area that will accept sports wagers until the main book is complete.
Both properties began "soft play" today at 10AM. As mentioned in earlier posts, today and tomorrow are invite only preview days.
Quote: Jmarch79According to the Press of Atlantic City, Hard Rock Hotel & Casino will not offer sports betting upon opening. Property President, Mark Harkness' response is also suspect when asked if they will add it eventually, "We're not opening with sports betting but it's something we're taking a very hard look at for the future." Based on that answer, I am speculating that they may have an issue adding it due to their stadium licensing agreement with the Dolphins. You can see the full article here.
Over at Ocean Resort Casino their full William Hill sports book in the center of the casino will open six weeks after opening as they complete its construction. On opening they will have a temporary area that will accept sports wagers until the main book is complete.
Both properties began "soft play" today at 10AM. As mentioned in earlier posts, today and tomorrow are invite only preview days.
Thanks for the continuing updates
Quote: Jmarch79My pleasure. Full on property reviews (with pictures) will be posted throughout the weekend.
I'll be doing a TR when I get there next week
Quote: aceofspadesI'll be doing a TR when I get there next week
Awesome! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Are you staying at Ocean or Hard Rock?
Quote: Jmarch79Awesome! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Are you staying at Ocean or Hard Rock?
Oceans (but, in my heart, it will always be Revel)
I am not sure how much of the decor will be changed (aside from the carpet)
Quote: aceofspadesOceans (but, in my heart, it will always be Revel)
I am not sure how much of the decor will be changed (aside from the carpet)
I am not sure either, but that's not necessarily a bad thing - the same decor will make you feel like you never left. Best of luck when you're there!
Quote: Jmarch79I am not sure either, but that's not necessarily a bad thing - the same decor will make you feel like you never left. Best of luck when you're there!
Wishing you positive variance as well
Quote: Jmarch79
Both properties began "soft play" today at 10AM. As mentioned in earlier posts, today and tomorrow are invite only preview days.
Did anyone go today yet? Are they checking for invites at the door?
Quote: BozAre you going to Ocean this weekend Ace, if you are OK putting it out there publicly.
Not going until next week - will be doing a TR
I like their strategy of making you tier match first, this way you're on property twice.
Quote: sodawaterDid anyone go today yet? Are they checking for invites at the door?
Rumor has it that Ocean Resort Casino is not checking for invites.
Quote: Jmarch79Rumor has it that Ocean Resort Casino is not checking for invites.
Watching Fox 5 in Philly doing a live report right now and they are reporting while there were invitations as said, they were inviting anyone in who walked by. Reports are the tables and slots were packed as was the cafe with nowhere to sit. $5 Max at the tables and they had to pull people from the slots at 10PM due to gaming. But they allowed people to stay and walk around.
Interviewed a guy who gushed over how nice Hard Rock is and is going back today.
Sounds like Caesars and Trop are going to feel the heat.
lol
Quote: 100xOddsseen at soft opening:
lol
That's what soft openings are for. If things like this come up, they fix them.
Quote: BozWatching Fox 5 in Philly doing a live report right now and they are reporting while there were invitations as said, they were inviting anyone in who walked by. Reports are the tables and slots were packed as was the cafe with nowhere to sit. $5 Max at the tables and they had to pull people from the slots at 10PM due to gaming. But they allowed people to stay and walk around.
Interviewed a guy who gushed over how nice Hard Rock is and is going back today.
Sounds like Caesars and Trop are going to feel the heat.
Very cool, thanks! I've heard awesome things about Ocean. I believe Borgata is going to take a decent hit as well. These two new properties would compete with them in terms of amenities.
Quote: 100xOddsseen at soft opening:
lol
Meet the new boss...
Quote: 100xOddsseen at soft opening:
lol
So shouldnt the soft opening have had a sign for the Soft Rock Casino
Quote: darkozQuote: 100xOddsseen at soft opening:
lol
So shouldnt the soft opening have had a sign for the Soft Rock Casino
LOL
Grand Opening Celebrations are still tomorrow. The guitar smashing and ceremony at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino will begin at 11AM. The ribbon cutting and invite gala at Ocean Resort Casino will begin at 1PM.
This is a very, very exciting time for Atlantic City.
I get the impression he does not want a sports book on property and is leaning more towards offering the mobile platform to take bets.
Quote: aceofspadesDoes the new Oceans have a Starbucks or other such coffee vendor?
They currently have a little coffee kiosk open called "The Grind"...Starbucks will open in August.
Full trip report to be posted today. It was a long weekend. Too much to cover.
Quote: Jmarch79They currently have a little coffee kiosk open called "The Grind"...Starbucks will open in August.
Full trip report to be posted today. It was a long weekend. Too much to cover.
Nice, and my TR will commence mañana
"Ocean Premier just got even more rewarding! Tier Match with us and receive $25 in free play for Gold, $50 in free play for Platinum, and $100 in free play for Black card holders.
Tier Matched with us already? Don’t worry, you didn’t miss out! Your free play has been loaded to your account for use on your next visit."
Sweet. Another hundy for my next trip. Again, better late than never Ocean!
Edited at Jmarch request. bbb
Also, all Ocean blackjack tables hit soft 17 except one in the high limit room? I don't like the sounds of that
Quote: aceofspadesYou said Ocean VIP check-in is near the elevators? Which floor?
Also, all Ocean blackjack tables hit soft 17 except one in the high limit room? I don't like the sounds of that
VIP check-in is on the lobby level in a room besides the elevator bank that goes only to the top few floors.
All pits at Ocean except for HL and one pit by the Ocean Premier Card desk are H17.
Quote: Jmarch79VIP check-in is on the lobby level in a room besides the elevator bank that goes only to the top few floors.
All pits at Ocean except for HL and one pit by the Ocean Premier Card desk are H17.
The elevator banks are by the parking garage - which elevators are you talking about?
Quote:All games except one pit in front of the Ocean Premier Card desk and in high limit hit soft 17.
All pits except the two mentioned above are H17.
Quote: aceofspadesThe elevator banks are by the parking garage - which elevators are you talking about?
The elevators that take you up to the guestrooms. There is a special bank; those only go up to the top few floors. To the left of that bank, there is a room with a desk and two computers. That is VIP check-in.
Quote: Jmarch79Ocean Resort Casino:
- The Ivan Kane’s Royal Jelly party pit has girls dancing in g-strings on catwalks and on the bar.
While I enjoyed the view, I don’t remember ass cheeks being exposed in its previous incarnation.
Decent blackjack rules and girls dancing in front of you seems +EV if you ask me.
Pictures will follow tonight
cant wait...
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