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OMG, this is the game that I want Mission146 to review!

Does Wincraps make you do buy-ins to give you a session bankroll? If so, what buy-ins would you have had to have done to have played that live?



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I can start WinCraps with most any buy-in, the default is lower and I've forgotten what it was, maybe $1,000 or $5,000 or $10,000, but I set it for $100,000 so I could worry more about sticking around that figure when times get tough.

For the $3,000 max on the felt, a buy-in of $30K would be minimum for me, but I'd make it much higher, maybe in the $90K range.



If I'm gonna be betting on Bubble Craps with $2 + $2 Odds on the PL, and $1 + $2 odds + $1 PB on the point for 2 Come bets, the total on the felt would be $12 at one time. So my minimum buy-in would be $120, but I should plan on making the buy-in around $500 (with a different betting strategy that goes to higher bets) if I get ahead with beginner's luck.



If I'm at at a $10 table, I'd have $20 + $20 odds on the PL, and $10 + $30 odds on the 2 Come bets, the total on the felt would be $120 at one time. So my minimum buy-in would be $1200, but I should plan on making the buy-in around $4,000 (with a different betting strategy that goes to higher bets, and includes $30 on the PL where on the Bubble Craps it skips from $2 to $4 and excludes $3 on the PL because I can't bet $1.50 on the Come).



I've gotten from $102,000 to near $107,000 playing the table amounts on WinCraps last night, so that'd be equivalent to turning $200 into $1,000 on the Bubble Craps with a slightly different chart. The dice have to be with me for me to win. The local Bubble Craps has speeded up their dice shaker so it's not easier to lazily throw 7's on the Come-out all day, but it does seem much easier to inadvertently throw a 7-out. Other players are betting the Don'ts, even when they shoot. I can roll 21 times trying to hit my point of 4 and not hit it, so I can still get into Hot Shooter mode, usually at least once an hour if I'm shooting alone.



I've said many, many times before that WinCraps will put me on a winning streak so it can figure out my betting habits, then it will turn on me horrendously & never-endingly. Like I start betting Don't Pass, I win for awhile, then suddenly it's Hot Shooter time and I'm making 8 points and winning a dozen come-out bets. I don't trust WinCraps to be a harbinger of what I'll find on Bubble Craps or real tables, and I wouldn't trust online craps either. But I can cobble together some winning strategies that may work for a day on WinCraps before it goes utterly sour.

Mr.CC: I have great respect for your math intellect and for the way you can communicate. Having said that, why do you play WinCraps at levels of wagers you would probably never approach in reality at the casinos? What is the benefit of the above sessions that could be of value to a player playing for real? If you were Jeff Bezos rich, would you play like that?



I, too, have WinCraps and play almost every day for "practice" using the basic default buy-in of $1,000. For me, it keeps it "real" and allows me to experiment with my strategies which I can carry over to the casino. Unlike many who use WinCraps "simulations," (millions of rolls/hands) to determine HA/HE which, IMO, cannot come close to reality, I use the game as a tool to prep me.



tuttigym

I start out at $100K because that's how far I've won up to previously on WinCraps. I've got a 2nd player on the machine that I ran up to over $575K (from over $1.3 million behind) in one session. I'll be taking my time trying to figure out how to play that going forward. I like to think there's a high limit room somewhere that can accept my big bets some time, if I ever get there. In the meantime I still do try to focus on turning $10K into $100K, but it'd be cool to go from $200K to $2 million or more.

I am sorry I was not clear in my previous comment. Does your real play at the table in the casino mirror your WinCraps play?



tuttigym

I'm playing the home game until I can get a winning streak together at the casino and start using what I learned at home, in the casino. It helps to be prepared to win, and luck is what is needed for that to happen, in addition to systems/strategies that I know so well.

BTW, my local casino was closed for quite awhile during the pandemic and table games didn't return until people were vaccinated in the summer of 2021. Since Delta came around when the school year started last fall, it isn't safe to be out and about. In 2020, the governor locked down New York State for far less than what it's being open for now.

At 3:12 he had just won 34150 coins. But at 03:13 that disappeared? Looks like he edited out losing that?



[Ignore that. Seems I'd rolled into another video.]

OD: I can't find the thing you're talking about at the time point given. I think this video was edited from a longer 2+ hour livestream and these are the highlights. He did cashout a few times to get vouchers. Towards the end he was putting in $1,000 at a time, and I don't know where you can find $1,000 bills much less $1,000 vouchers. Maybe the new FastPay system allows him to add that $1,000 onto the credit meter at the push of a button. Maybe he went to the casino ATM and purchased a small handful of $1,000 vouchers beforehand.

At 22:54 he has 45K credits, then the next scene he's back at $1,000 at the denomination screen.

At other casinos, the machines may have a $3K credit limit you can't go over, so any non-handpay jackpot that puts you over $3K will be spit out as a voucher. Most casinos don't have the PIN handpay feature, so you'll be waiting around for a handpay.

One slot-tuber suggests playing the 5 or 10 multipliers (on Lightning Cash High Stakes) because the chips in the bonus rounds are higher, like 12,500 or 25,000 and you could hit 2 of them. On a 10 cent denom, 25,000 x $0.10 = $2,500. He says he gets a bit ripped-off on the progressives, but the high chip values make up for it.

Ignore my comment above. I'd rolled into another video.

I can't find either of these machines at my local casino. The casino mostly has lower denomination machines of 1, 2, 5, 10 cents, not higher denominations of 10, 25, 50, 100 cents.