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billryan
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February 26th, 2022 at 8:03:01 AM permalink
The CDC released a map showing which counties could reduce their mask mandates and the situation in Arizona has taken a sudden turn. Up until now, the center of the state- the I-10 corridor between Phoenix and Tucson had been the hardest hit portion of the state, along with the Navajo Nation. Now it has reversed. The two cities have been given the go ahead to reduce precautions, while the outer parts of the state are still deep orange/even red. New Mexico, which was previously all red has now gone mostly yellow. Cochise County, which was once a yellow island in a sea of red is now dark orange.
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February 26th, 2022 at 8:35:17 AM permalink
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So you project being biased on everyone because you are biased. Yup, that argument works.
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February 26th, 2022 at 8:57:29 AM permalink
The Washington Post: U.S. "excess deaths" (by govt. mortality stats) top 1M over a two year period . The vast majority of which were from covid. The stats expose swollen numbers of deaths from heart disease, hypertension, dementia, and other ailments. The CDC's analysis estimates 208,431 excess deaths from all the non-covid 19 causes since the start of the pandemic (2 year period). A CDC official (Robert Anderson) stated that many people who died of covid were elderly, sick, or very frail, and even without the pandemic, some might not have survived across the two-year span of the pandemic, and therefore are not, strictly speaking, "excess deaths."

The CDC has found that 74% of covid deaths occurred among people age 65 AND OVER.

IMHO group think and hysteria, based on the above, is misplaced.

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February 26th, 2022 at 12:53:14 PM permalink
Agree. A lot of foolish talk from the Government getting us ready to be led like sheep in the future.
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February 26th, 2022 at 3:42:42 PM permalink
Quote: tuttigym

The Washington Post: U.S. "excess deaths" (by govt. mortality stats) top 1M over a two year period . The vast majority of which were from covid. The stats expose swollen numbers of deaths from heart disease, hypertension, dementia, and other ailments. The CDC's analysis estimates 208,431 excess deaths from all the non-covid 19 causes since the start of the pandemic (2 year period). A CDC official (Robert Anderson) stated that many people who died of covid were elderly, sick, or very frail, and even without the pandemic, some might not have survived across the two-year span of the pandemic, and therefore are not, strictly speaking, "excess deaths."

The CDC has found that 74% of covid deaths occurred among people age 65 AND OVER.

IMHO group think and hysteria, based on the above, is misplaced.

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It's disconcerting that people keep forgetting having many people sick or dying all close together would have been massive actual major problem regardless of the fact of how soon they might of died from age and other causes. Let's compress all the deaths and illness into 6 months instead of 2 years. Do people think anyone else would need a hospital bed or a doctor in that 6 months? Are you going to get good care even if you get in with beds outside in tents? Are going kill all your medical people from overwork so you have even fewer working?

I say this, as it seems people seem to think letting it run rampant or not worry about it was the right move all along.
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April 20th, 2022 at 12:40:14 PM permalink
Breaking tweet:
10) more variants on the way. More trouble.

New lineages designated today. This is what happens when mass infection is the new idiotic pandemic strategy.

BA.1.1.18
BA.2.9.2
BA.2.34
BA.2.3.4
BA.2.33
BA.2.32
BA.2.31
BA.2.30
BA.2.29
BA.2.28
BA.2.27
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April 20th, 2022 at 2:10:06 PM permalink
For all the discussion about the need to rely on science, I never see any science in any of these proclamations of new strains. Are natural immunities developed from previous infections by earlier strains of any use in inhibiting these strains? And if so, how much? What is the relative transmissibility and virulence of these new strains? (I get the impression these are somewhat more transmissible than the original omicron strain but even less virulent. Is that correct?)

At some point:
- almost everyone has developed some degree of natural immunity
- this seems to look more like the influenza
- the existence of vaccines and availability of medical therapies makes this kind of a "meh"
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April 26th, 2022 at 4:43:49 AM permalink
Dr. Birx on TV rn saying being infected doesn't prevent future infection due to variants.
1 million American fatalities from COVID approaching and will be reached within hours. <4K deaths to go.
Dr. Birx says people over 70 years old are dying at the highest rate from COVID rn, and cases in NYS are rising over the past month.

Yeah, central NYS is turning red with new cases over 50/100K per day per county.

Vaccines will have to become regular because they don't last all that long.
With 2/3rds of Americans vaccinated and less than half boosted, and kids with very low vaccination rates, this pandemic will continue unabated for years.
Herd immunity for this disease is over 95% vaccinated.
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April 26th, 2022 at 5:44:27 AM permalink
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your post above omitted something very important_____________covid cases are now much less serious___________at least in the U.S.

in January of 2021 the U.S. was averaging more than 3,300 deaths per day

this is from today from the front page of the online edition of the New York Times

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April 26th, 2022 at 5:53:00 AM permalink
Just before Omicron became dominant, Delta was at 50K new cases per day. Omicron put it at over a million new cases a day. I got my booster in January to protect against that. Did people getting their boosters early this year drop Omicron cases back down 95%? I don't know what runs this pandemic except that every variant that becomes dominant is more contagious than the last and for the unvaccinated, it isn't any less dangerous.

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