Fun and Frustration in Las Vegas
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44 members have voted
Quote: rxwineMaybe there is real action at higher prices. Did you ever ask?
No. I think you're thinking of strip clubs in Tijuana.
Quote:Those places don't make a lot of sense to me, except for getting ripped off paying for overpriced champagne which is what I usually hear about.
Me neither.
It's a hard job, but someone needed to do it ;-)
Quote: WizardHuge disagreement from me. At a Vegas strip club a lap dance on the floor will last two minutes, cost $20, and nothing will happen.
In the VIP room you'll pay about $250 for 20-30 minutes. There you can touch her upstairs and she will likely be totally nude. However, you'll still be totally dressed and leave frustrated.
In my opinion Vegas Strip clubs are terrible way to seek sexual satisfaction. They're fine if you just want to look but they offer a terrible value for more than that.
But they are a perfect counterpart to Vegas casinos!
1) Get the customer excited
2) Take his money
3) Leave him frustrated
All tease, no please. What could possibly be more Vegas than that?
I actually wasn't writing about Vegas. I haven't been to a strip club there. I was writing about A.C. in the early 90s. Maybe it's changed but I don't think so. Fairly recently I've been to a club in Baltimore and it was basically the same as A.C. It's possible the east coast is very different than the west. I paid a minimum of $20 for about 15 minutes which I would usually repeat to a maximum of $60 for about 20 minutes. Plus tip. As I indicated earlier it wasn't just a tease but it's probably not for everybody. Different clubs have different levels of tolerance for what is allowed. Maybe I got too far off the subject by writing about A.C. Here is a New York Times story from 2001 about Pat Ewing at an Atlanta strip club. I'm sure the girls knew who Ewing was and that he paid big because they knew he was a star baller. It would be wrong to assume that everybody is paying big bucks to get what he got. What happened to him there is not at all unusual. It is unusual for a strip club owner to get prosecuted. Usually the police are paid off or look the other way for various reasons. In Baltimore police headquarters is but a stone's throw from the Baltimore Block. And you can believe anything goes in the strip clubs there. In Baltimore the greeter is outside the door and sends an electronic signal to the bartender or hostess if the police are coming in and the couples then separate. The police usually come in just because they want to watch the girl on the stage. A lot of the girls in Baltimore look really hardcore but not all. Some are gorgeous. Some are college students trying for tuition money. You can pick and choose. In fairness to the police I would say that they have a strategy of limiting sexual activity to certain places and certain areas.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/24/us/in-testimony-patrick-ewing-tells-of-favors-at-strip-club.html
Neither. It's a form of journalistic fair use.Quote: AyecarumbaDoes the context in which the slapper cards are re-published on this site, as well as leaving the phone number in the image, constitute an endorsement or a copyright/trademark violation?
Quote: WizardOuch!!! To be honest, I'm quite sure you're right. I could have a lot more fun my single years if I weren't terrified of rejection.
Great article.
Quote: WizardI offered to Josh, the site owner, to make it more PG, but haven't heard back yet. In my defense, this is a site about Vegas so I think everybody should be able to take it that comes here. It also is duly noted that yours is the only vote for "Some images were too graphic."
A problem is that the title images for articles are supposed to be short and wide. Of all the hooker cards I gathered except Jena were tall and narrow. BTW, I was out there in the 109-degree heat on Monday afternoon gathering those cards. The things I do for you guys. I have several more images I didn't use, upon request.
With apologies, I also voted that some images were too graphic for this well-written and informative article. This might be a Vegas site, but the kids could pass behind me any time! I don't think people visit WoV expecting to have to look over their shoulders to make sure nobody is around before scrolling down an article.
Quote: Mission146With apologies, I also voted that some images were too graphic for this well-written and informative article. This might be a Vegas site, but the kids could pass behind me any time! I don't think people visit WoV expecting to have to look over their shoulders to make sure nobody is around before scrolling down an article.
Yah I agree, I don't think the images add much to the article. It's not about being offended, it's about reading articles at work or in public and not expecting boobies to pop up.
Quote: lilredroosterI actually wasn't writing about Vegas. I haven't been to a strip club there.
The caliber of the women, what they will do, and what it costs varies enormously from one part of the country to another. I'm familiar with the clubs on "the block" in Baltimore and that experience just doesn't compare to Vegas in any way. Please don't say that Simon's article is wrong because it doesn't match the experience in Atlantic City or Baltimore.
Quote: Mission146With apologies, I also voted that some images were too graphic for this well-written and informative article. This might be a Vegas site, but the kids could pass behind me any time! I don't think people visit WoV expecting to have to look over their shoulders to make sure nobody is around before scrolling down an article.
Point well taken. Until the big boss asks me to change it, or does himself, let the record show that only 4 of the 34 people who voted (11.8%) said the images were too graphic.
On a somewhat related note, I never read any articles, unless they are mentioned and linked here. The reason is simple: There is no index or other organization to them.
It is this lack of organization that has kept me from complaining that the Introduction to Casino Poker article I wrote has never been included in the articles section.
Quote: DJTeddyBearI agree that the photo used on the articles home page is too graphic, but once the title of the article has been read, any reader who clicks in should not be shocked by what he sees.
well the featured image on the articles index page is pretty graphic
https://wizardofvegas.com/article/
Quote: DJTeddyBearOn a somewhat related note, I never read any articles, unless they are mentioned and linked here. The reason is simple: There is no index or other organization to them.
The organization on this forum has always bothered me. There are way to many folders/subtopics - most of which don't even get any action.
Quote: gamerfreakwell the featured image on the articles index page is pretty graphic
https://wizardofvegas.com/article/Quote: DJTeddyBearOn a somewhat related note, I never read any articles, unless they are mentioned and linked here. The reason is simple: There is no index or other organization to them.
The organization on this forum has always bothered me. There are way to many folders/subtopics - most of which don't even get any action.
.. Just like a casino ..
Quote: DJTeddyBearIt is this lack of organization that has kept me from complaining that the Introduction to Casino Poker article I wrote has never been included in the articles section.
Sorry if it was I who forgot about that. Is it too late now?
Of course not. All that info is still valid.Quote: WizardSorry if it was I who forgot about that. Is it too late now?Quote: DJTeddyBearIt is this lack of organization that has kept me from complaining that the Introduction to Casino Poker article I wrote has never been included in the articles section.
But I'm serious about the lack of an index. Very frustrating.
Quote: WizardPoint well taken. Until the big boss asks me to change it, or does himself, let the record show that only 4 of the 34 people who voted (11.8%) said the images were too graphic.
It's up to six, and I would suggest that those who voted, 'Good topic but bad article,' or, 'Bad topic and bad article,' could have arguably been voting such, in part, because of the images.
Quote: Mission146I would suggest that those who voted, 'Good topic but bad article,' or, 'Bad topic and bad article,' could have arguably been voting such, in part, because of the images.
I'm one of those. The site may bill itself as "an informative travel guide about Las Vegas," but I think of it as a gambling site. I'm no prude, but I think a 'How To' guide for prostitution is beneath you.
To me it evokes images of a tipsy, first-time visitor giddily collecting porn slappers' cards.
Try polling the site's 9 female participants and see what they think.
To that I ask: Why are you reading about prostitution in Vegas when the kids are around anyways? They could come up and see the pictures, or they could come up and start reading along side you all the same, no? Seems like something that could be read more privately on your phone or when they're gone.
Perhaps they're graphic, perhaps not... If you click the link about local Vegas prostitution, you know what you're getting in to =).
Try polling the site's 9 female participants and see what they think.
Many people, female and male think prostitution should be legalized everywhere. It would be wrong to assume that because a person is female that she would object to this article. There are few people who think that it is realistic that prostitution could be eliminated or even greatly minimized. When there is that much demand and that much supply there will be business. Those who perpetrate the most horrible kinds of exploitation in this business should be severely punished. But many are willing participants. The escort employed by Eliot Spitzer, former Governor of NY was an educated woman whose father was a doctor. Spitzer is one of those politicians who railed vehemently against this business. I'd be willing to bet big money that a great many politicians and others who talked down the Secret Service agents who were caught with hookers in Colombia have themselves employed this service. As far as porn goes, Comcast is one of the biggest merchants of porn. All of the giant hotel chains make it available as one of their offerings. Because giant corporations are involved doesn't make it right but they are just responding to demand. I for one do not feel that it is the place of a State or Federal Government to restrict a transaction between two consenting adults. Regulate it; yes; but restrict, no. Again, certain horrible things such as sex slavery or the exploitation of children should be severely punished.
Well, that or fruits and vegetables.
EDIT -- or casino chips
Quote: RomesI understand people come from different viewpoints, such as having kids potential at home, etc...
To that I ask: Why are you reading about prostitution in Vegas when the kids are around anyways? They could come up and see the pictures, or they could come up and start reading along side you all the same, no? Seems like something that could be read more privately on your phone or when they're gone.
Perhaps they're graphic, perhaps not... If you click the link about local Vegas prostitution, you know what you're getting in to =).
You click on, 'Articles,' and there is a picture, essentially, of a naked woman. I certainly did not expect that to happen. When reading the actual Article, obviously, I went elsewhere in the house.
Quote: WizardOkay, I hope you prudes are happy, I changed the cover image. However, I make no apologies for keeping the images inside the article. If you click on an article about prostitution, then I think you should be able to take it.
I concur with that, I have no problem with any such images once one has clicked on the article. My only issue was the image on the main articles page, Not Safe For Work.
EDIT: That's barely an improvement. Couldn't we have something like a massage parlor sign or one of those provocatively posed neon woman signs instead? We look like a porn site, especially since I use and prefer the dark color scheme!
Quote: Mission146EDIT: That's barely an improvement. Couldn't we have something like a massage parlor sign or one of those provocatively posed neon woman signs instead? We look like a porn site, especially since I use and prefer the dark color scheme!
Oh, for crying out loud, you can't see anything good on that truck.
I think the world would be better served if we didn't continue to promote sex as something to be hidden and ashamed of,.anyway. Americans are weird about it compared to nearly every other nation. Which is why prostitution is so expensive here, I guess.
The escort employed by a married Computer Executive in Santa Barbara was a well educated daughter of a Silicon Valley mogul and just happened to leave a trail of heroin deaths behind her, if there had been an audio track to the film, she would certianly have receive d the death penalty.Quote: lilredroosterThe escort employed by Eliot Spitzer, former Governor of NY was an educated woman whose father was a doctor.
Quote: RomesTo that I ask: Why are you reading about prostitution in Vegas when the kids are around anyways?
For my part, I didn't mention children; don't have any.
Quote: lilredroosterMany people, female and male think prostitution should be legalized everywhere...
Start the thread, have the discussion. You infer that I'm against prostitution, I am not.
Mike & the mods consistently advise posters to "keep it PG." In light of that, I simply find a Hookers for Dummies article in what I think of as a gambling site as incongruous and a bit coarse.
Keep in mind that this is also a Vegas website. As such, it's almost surprising that this subject hasn't come up sooner.Quote: CalderMike & the mods consistently advise posters to "keep it PG." In light of that, I simply find a Hookers for Dummies article in what I think of as a gambling site as incongruous and a bit coarse.
Quote: beachbumbabsFWIW, I think the truck is the perfect image. You see them every day prowling the Strip; it's exactly as startling and provocative as seeing it in person. And yet it's seen by thousands of children daily.
I think the world would be better served if we didn't continue to promote sex as something to be hidden and ashamed of,.anyway. Americans are weird about it compared to nearly every other nation. Which is why prostitution is so expensive here, I guess.
That's directly correlated to this country's high degree of religiosity. Societal restrictions on sex--most notably, the sense of shame that the Catholic church has managed to tie to it--reinforce power bases. Keep the people frustrated and ration out their relief very carefully. That's how you dominate and control a society. It's no coincidence that Republicans play the religion card every chance they get.
Quote: DJTeddyBearKeep in mind that this is also a Vegas website. As such, it's almost surprising that this subject hasn't come up sooner.
I agree. The site is supposed to be about all things Vegas.
True. But one thing about it that IS unique to Vegas is the almost universal belief that it's legal in, ahem, Sin City.Quote: CyrusVProstitution is not unique to Vegas.
Quote: DJTeddyBearOn a somewhat related note, I never read any articles, unless they are mentioned and linked here. The reason is simple: There is no index or other organization to them.
It is this lack of organization that has kept me from complaining that the Introduction to Casino Poker article I wrote has never been included in the articles section.
Maybe something like this:
| Author | Category | Title | Quick Link |
|---|---|---|---|
| JohnnyQ | Attractions | Sky Combat Ace | https://wizardofvegas.com/article/sky-combat-ace/ |
| DJTeddyBear | Gambling | Intro to Casino Poker | https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/poker/7713-introduction-to-poker-in-a-casino-poker-room/ |
Except I guess you can't click on a link inside a table.
So, if at first you don't succeed:
ARTICLE INDEX
DJTeddyBear - GAMBLING - Intro to Casino Poker
JohnnyQ - ATTRACTIONS - Acrobatic Plane Rides
OK, now somebody get the intern to work on this !
Quote: DJTeddyBearTrue. But one thing about it that IS unique to Vegas is the almost universal belief that it's legal in, ahem, Sin City.
Not exactly. There's an almost universal belief that the cops won't enforce any laws against prostitution within Clark County. This is pretty much true. Most of the time, solicitation, etc. is just a "bonus charge" that is layered on top of something else. It's very, very rare to see the local authorities do anything about prostitution per se. After all, it's part of the city's image that you can be naughty without any legal consequences (financial, yes).
There is an elaborate system of payoffs involved in Vegas prostitution. The bartender who lets the girls sit at his bar gets a twenty when they score a trick. The valet parking guy who tells the visitor where to find the hookers gets a kickback later. And the cop who drives right by the street hookers and merely winks gets, uh, "compensated" as well. Prostitution is actually a thriving sector of the Vegas economy. The local powers that be (the casino government) no more want to shut it down than they want to shut down all the crap games.
Such "prostitution busts" are easy pickings for the Vice Squad.Quote: onenickelmiracleBreaking news, Backpage.com was seized by the government, seems all similar sites are self-closed.
Most prostitution brings other crimes as well. Drugs, ripoffs, assaults, blackmail.
Often police tend to keep streetwalkers in a certain district. With Cyberspace there is no "neighborhood blight" except that when tricks show up at certain motels there can be other crimes taking place at the motel or at the trick's then-empty home.
So for the large part there is no need to have the cops look too hard at Cyberspace Vice, but its easy to make arrests and get good press so the cops are prone to do it.
When times were really bad in Vegas, dozens of hookers could easily be outside the casino entranceway and the higher priced ones inside at the various bars, lounges etc.
In other cities control is easier but with Vegas the numbers are so high and there is little chance of a repeat encounter so a prostitute has little incentive to just get her money and perform the requested services. The prostitute will always make more money and make it more easily by using drugs or pimps to rob her clients and toss their rooms. Hookers running out of a Vegas hotel room clutching chips, drugs and a wallet in one hand as well as the john's pants in the other hand is not a good situation for the casino.
The funniest incident I ever heard of was the hooker who ran into a cab, threw two hundred dollars to the driver and yelled 'more if you get me out of here NOW". Cabbie locked the doors and radioed his dispatcher. When LVMetro showed up they were unable to find the man's wallet but then one of the cops lifted the woman' wig which prompted the response " I didn't know it was there ".
I assume as long as you have a positive attitude and are well hydrated that every sexual encounter is a great one!Quote: WatchMeWinHave you ever heard the Mantra 'What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas'? Extremely popular ! The very essence of this tag line stems from , I would venture to guess, sex. Whether with a prostitute , or with a Mistress, or trying to hook up with some strange, or even going wild with your significant other. Everyone loves sex... they just do. Whether with the same sex or not, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, we all want some as$#!... and if some people have to pay for it, why not? Not everyone is Brat Pitt... ish!
Quote: RomesI assume as long as you have a positive attitude and are well hydrated that every sexual encounter is a great one!
It's always worked for me!
Quote: rainmanSTD's happen in Vegas and I'm pretty sure they don't stay there.
..... but it was due to sex.
Quote: onenickelmiracleBreaking news, Backpage.com was seized by the government, seems all similar sites are self-closed.
I also read that Craigslist has discontinued their Personals section because they were threatened with being prosecuted for prostitution.
So what are fat, bald, ugly, and broke dudes with no personality supposed to do? They have to pay for it! If both parties are willing and able, should not be an issue. We are such a 'righteous' society!
Quote: WatchMeWinHave you ever heard the Mantra 'What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas'?
The only thing that "stays in Vegas" is my money!
Quote: DRichI also read that Craigslist has discontinued their Personals section because they were threatened with being prosecuted for prostitution.
Haha... I remember like 10-12 years or so ago when Craigslist was considered a legitimate place to meet normal people. It was usually the only way I could get a date!
