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December 8th, 2020 at 3:34:06 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames



Please provide the probabilities if you think it's so easy to do, unless your math skills are stronger than the best mathematicians on this forum, you stand no chance of completing the task.



Did you not know TElliot is a Phd in mathematics? He may or may not be the best math guy on this forum but I would guess he is much more skilled than you. He also has over 30 years of doing this stuff.

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December 8th, 2020 at 3:48:03 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Did you not know TElliot is a Phd in mathematics? He may or may not be the best math guy on this forum but I would guess he is much more skilled than you. He also has over 30 years of doing this stuff.

Has MDawg found a new persona?



No, but even if he is a Ph.D. mathematician it still doesn't matter. There are many Ph.D.'s who have attempted & failed to solve these probabilities (I know of one on this forum). I took this problem to U.C. Davis & their entire math department couldn't solve this problem lol. I am the worlds leading expert in combinatorial statistics. But I digress, I'm a specialist in this field, not to say my other math skills are average but I'm only an expert in 1 branch of mathematics & there are plenty of games that require different math skills to analyze.

Also, don't forget that I solved this problem by hand with no programming. If TElliot can solve these probabilities within 24 hours then I will eat my own words & never mention this challenge ever again. But honestly in excited that he his here on this forum but I've been looking for a good challenger to take on this problem going on 6 months now!
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December 8th, 2020 at 3:51:51 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

No, but even if he is a Ph.D. mathematician it still doesn't matter. There are many Ph.D.'s who have attempted & failed to solve these probabilities (I know of one on this forum). I took this problem to U.C. Davis & their entire math department couldn't solve this problem lol. I am the worlds leading expert in combinatorial statistics. But I digress, I'm a specialist in this field, not to say my other math skills are average but I'm only an expert in 1 branch of mathematics & there are plenty of games that require different math skills to analyze.



Bullshit.
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December 8th, 2020 at 3:52:53 PM permalink
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Bullshit.



Please prove me wrong 🙏

I have the answers so I'll know if your lying ;)
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December 8th, 2020 at 4:00:30 PM permalink
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Bullshit.

Warning CM. You know that's inappropriate language here. No action from me this time, but please desist.
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December 8th, 2020 at 4:00:41 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

Please prove me wrong 🙏

I have the answers so I'll know if your lying ;)



You are becoming a parody of yourself. I just assumed you were some cocky kid trying to get a job at IGT. Apparently I gave you way too much credit. The people you are dealing with here are all experts in their fields. TEliiot, CrystalMath, Wizard, Gordon. These guys are the experts and you are just a person yelling "look at me".
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December 8th, 2020 at 4:04:09 PM permalink
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You are becoming a parody of yourself. I just assumed you were some cocky kid trying to get a job at IGT. Apparently I gave you way too much credit. The people you are dealing with here are all experts in their fields. TEliiot, CrystalMath, Wizard, Gordon. These guys are the experts and you are just a person yelling "look at me".

Hi Drich, AIUI, Wizard might treat this as a personal insult. Please be mindful of that and take this as a warning.
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December 8th, 2020 at 4:06:12 PM permalink
Here is something you don't know about me. I have a universal method for deriving a complete statistical analysis of probabilities to any defined group with any amount of elements within any amount of sets. The theorem is being nominated for an Able prize by this year's winner Hillel Furstenberg, who I reached out to by email sharing my research which he requested that it be formally published before nominated.
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December 8th, 2020 at 4:13:26 PM permalink
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You are becoming a parody of yourself. I just assumed you were some cocky kid trying to get a job at IGT. Apparently I gave you way too much credit. The people you are dealing with here are all experts in their fields. TEliiot, CrystalMath, Wizard, Gordon. These guys are the experts and you are just a person yelling "look at me".



I'm confused, who said they weren't experts???

All in saying is I believe I'm the expert in this particular field.

It almost sounds to me like in order to be an expert you need to have built a reputation but I don't believe that to be true in the slightest.

The worst part is you haven't even thought about what if I was telling you the truth? Should I just keep my discoveries to myself unlit I'm somehow famous and then start telling people that I can solve combinatorial problems by hand that most use computers for? Do I sound like a liar to you? Do I sound delusional? Because if not maybe you should take my claims a little more seriously.
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December 8th, 2020 at 4:14:45 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

Here is something you don't know about me. I have a universal method for deriving a complete statistical analysis of probabilities to any defined group with any amount of elements within any amount of sets. The theorem is being nominated for an Able prize by this year's winner Hillel Furstenberg, who I reached out to by email sharing my research which he requested that it be formally published before nominated.



You sound like a person trying to get someone to do the math for you.

Publish your math here and everyone will say either you found a great method or they will probably show you a better and easier way to solve it. These people get paid tens of thousands of dollars to do gaming math.
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December 8th, 2020 at 4:15:50 PM permalink
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Hi Drich, AIUI, Wizard might treat this as a personal insult. Please be mindful of that and take this as a warning.
Cheers.



Thank you, I will gladly accept any punishment that the moderators believe I deserve.
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December 8th, 2020 at 4:18:16 PM permalink
I've got a great way to tell if I'm full of it! Let's all try and solve these probabilities & I nobody can then I think it's obvious I'm the combo king of WoV. Or you guys could just talk to Donguy since I sent I'm 3 two hour videos of me explaining in detail about my theorem. I haven't spoken to him since I submitted the videos but he subscribed to my channel & I'm assuming he would have said something by now if he wasn't convinced.
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December 8th, 2020 at 4:20:48 PM permalink
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You sound like a person trying to get someone to do the math for you.

Publish your math here and everyone will say either you found a great method or they will probably show you a better and easier way to solve it. These people get paid tens of thousands of dollars to do gaming math.



Way too scared to share prematurely. However, I could share the 4 card hand probabilities with you in private if that would help?
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December 8th, 2020 at 4:30:48 PM permalink
Ok, I really didn't want to post this. I wanted people to solve the 4 card hand ranking probabilities also :/

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December 8th, 2020 at 4:45:30 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Thank you, I will gladly accept any punishment that the moderators believe I deserve.


I as well.
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December 8th, 2020 at 4:53:08 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

Here is something you don't know about me. I have a universal method for deriving a complete statistical analysis of probabilities to any defined group with any amount of elements within any amount of sets. The theorem is being nominated for an Able prize by this year's winner Hillel Furstenberg, who I reached out to by email sharing my research which he requested that it be formally published before nominated.

in other words it's not being nominated because you haven't published it and when I suggested an appropriate Journal you told me that it was mostly in your head and not written down. Until you write it down formally and publish it, all you have are words in your head. I've got lots of words in my head too, fortunately I've managed to write a few down over the years.

Here's the deal, publish anything in a major mathematical Journal, anything at all, and then I'll have a look at your problem. Prove that you have at least a modicum of skill by publishing something in a major journal. If you want me to be interested in your work, give me some respect by first proving yourself worthy of my attention.

Publishing in a major journal is very difficult, I have published in some of the best out there, often it's taken up to two years from submission to print. But that's what it takes, and you've got to be willing to do that. This is the last good advice I'm going to give you. Publish or perish.
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December 8th, 2020 at 5:20:41 PM permalink
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Way too scared to share prematurely. However, I could share the 4 card hand probabilities with you in private if that would help?



That wouldn't interest me at all. I am not much of a gaming math guy. I can solve simple poker games and reel slots but that is not my forte.
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December 8th, 2020 at 5:29:56 PM permalink
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in other words it's not being nominated because you haven't published it and when I suggested an appropriate Journal you told me that it was mostly in your head and not written down. Until you write it down formally and publish it, all you have are words in your head. I've got lots of words in my head too, fortunately I've managed to write a few down over the years.

Here's the deal, publish anything in a major mathematical Journal, anything at all, and then I'll have a look at your problem. Prove that you have at least a modicum of skill by publishing something in a major journal. If you want me to be interested in your work, give me some respect by first proving yourself worthy of my attention.



This is clever in that you're attempting to challenge the challenger when we already established earlier that I lack the skills & the time to publish. The entire point of bringing up my research is to find someone to help me publish. It's rather embarrassing to me to admit I don't think I have the skills to publish my research. Even Ramanujan needed Hardy to publish his research, & he was an excellent writer in English.

He is a question I pose to WoV (because it seems like everyone is a culprit of this against me), why is it that everyone assumes something that I never said??? I never said I didn't have my research written down??? You make me out to sound like a lunatic! I said I don't have much of it written in "WORDS". All of it is written down, all of it! But my research is anything but publishable & I think Donguy will attest to that.
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December 8th, 2020 at 5:31:56 PM permalink
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That wouldn't interest me at all. I am not much of a gaming math guy. I can solve simple poker games and reel slots but that is not my forte.



I'm confused? Then why did you ask to see my research if you lack the skills to analyze it???

Btw I posted the 4 card hand ranking probabilities earlier the last time I responded to your comment in a spoiler section for everyone to see ;)
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December 8th, 2020 at 5:54:07 PM permalink
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I never said I didn't have my research written down??? You make me out to sound like a lunatic! I said I don't have much of it written in "WORDS". All of it is written down, all of it! But my research is anything but punishable & I think Donguy will attest to that.

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One thing to note is that I have a language processing disorder and much of my research isn't even written in words.

I suppose "words" needs a definition. If it is in symbols and code that you invented from scratch because of your language disorder, it will be tough to get that published, for sure. Nevertheless, even with your language disorder, you have a surprising level of acuity in composing your thoughts for a message board. I'm surprised with your skill here that you can't use the same skill to put your papers into "words."
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December 8th, 2020 at 6:00:24 PM permalink
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I suppose "words" needs a definition. If it is in symbols and code that you invented from scratch because of your language disorder, it will be tough to get that published, for sure.



No, it's all in math symbols with very few translations. Some of it is not in symbols but rather expressed through visual methodology. Mathematic notations are not words.

Btw thank you for the advice, & your right. It is just publish or perish :/

P.S. I'm not saying math isn't a language because that's dumb.
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December 8th, 2020 at 6:42:01 PM permalink
Guys can you tell me the truth, do I write or talk funny because of my lpd or is it just a struggle to find the correct words?

I'm trying to figure out why everyone seems to misunderstand me when taking the time to make sure my wording, by definition, is correct.
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December 8th, 2020 at 8:43:32 PM permalink
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Guys can you tell me the truth, do I write or talk funny because of my lpd or is it just a struggle to find the correct words?

I'm trying to figure out why everyone seems to misunderstand me when taking the time to make sure my wording, by definition, is correct.



I don't think you even want to communicate. Communicating requires receiving and transmitting, and I don't feel you try to do either. You just want to keep attention on yourself. The circus gets boring pretty quickly.
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December 8th, 2020 at 8:54:18 PM permalink
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I don't think you even want to communicate. Communicating requires receiving and transmitting, and I don't feel you try to do either. You just want to keep attention on yourself. The circus gets boring pretty quickly.



Attention on my work maybe but attention on myself is ridiculous. I barely talk about myself which if anything has led people to just fill in the gaps themselves with assumptions.

On a side note, I am very pleased with the hastened comments about my research now that I have provided the 4 card hand ranking probabilities. Silence is a good thing since nobody is talking garbage anymore. I bet there are plenty of people right now who are struggling to replicate my results ;)
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December 8th, 2020 at 9:10:47 PM permalink
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I've got a great way to tell if I'm full of it! Let's all try and solve these probabilities & I nobody can then I think it's obvious I'm the combo king of WoV. Or you guys could just talk to Donguy since I sent I'm 3 two hour videos of me explaining in detail about my theorem. I haven't spoken to him since I submitted the videos but he subscribed to my channel & I'm assuming he would have said something by now if he wasn't convinced.


Er, I haven't had a chance to look at your videos - for some reason, the YouTube app on Roku doesn't show them when I go to your channel's page.
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December 8th, 2020 at 9:22:04 PM permalink
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Er, I haven't had a chance to look at your videos - for some reason, the YouTube app on Roku doesn't show them when I go to your channel's page.



lol, so you can only view them through the links I sent you. The videos are unlisted sir, no point in keeping the theorem a secret if the videos are public 👀
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December 8th, 2020 at 9:32:55 PM permalink
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Er, I haven't had a chance to look at your videos - for some reason, the YouTube app on Roku doesn't show them when I go to your channel's page.



So go to your Roku's web browser and type in the exact URLs ;)
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December 9th, 2020 at 5:24:41 AM permalink
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I am the worlds leading expert in combinatorial statistics.



Seriously, you aren't this message board's leading expert in combinatorial statistics...
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December 9th, 2020 at 6:38:21 AM permalink
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Ok, I really didn't want to post this. I wanted people to solve the 4 card hand ranking probabilities also :/


I decided to code up a few of these. 4-card hands.

Hand Number Frequency Cumm. Prob Cycle
--------------------------------------------------------------
Color_Quad 25 0.0006376% 0.0006376% 156849
Quad_Flush 100 0.0025502% 0.0025502% 39212
Suited_D2T 300 0.0076507% 0.0076507% 13071
Fools_Hand 3920800 99.9891639% 99.9891639% 1
-- 3921225 100.0000000% 100.0000000% 1


It is easy but tedious to code each hand rule. Each hand requires a few lines of new code. Remember that I don't claim that I am smart to be able to do this. My position all along has been that this is a fairly simple problem.
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December 9th, 2020 at 8:43:36 AM permalink
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Seriously, you aren't this message board's leading expert in combinatorial statistics...




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December 9th, 2020 at 9:10:35 AM permalink
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I am the worlds leading expert in combinatorial statistics. But I digress, I'm a specialist in this field, not to say my other math skills are average but I'm only an expert in 1 branch of mathematics & there are plenty of games that require different math skills to analyze..

"Combinatorial Statistics" is not a formal area of mathematics, like "algebraic geometry" or "statistical mechanics." For example, there is no Wikipedia page on "combinatorial statistics".

If you read the wiki page on Combinatorics, you don't even see a single mention of "combinatorial statistics" as one of the identified sub-disciplines related to combinatorics. Nor do these two words appear adjacent to each other anywhere on the page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorics

2.1 Enumerative combinatorics
2.2 Analytic combinatorics
2.3 Partition theory
2.4 Graph theory
2.5 Design theory
2.6 Finite geometry
2.7 Order theory
2.8 Matroid theory
2.9 Extremal combinatorics
2.10 Probabilistic combinatorics
2.11 Algebraic combinatorics
2.12 Combinatorics on words
2.13 Geometric combinatorics
2.14 Topological combinatorics
2.15 Arithmetic combinatorics
2.16 Infinitary combinatorics

Likewise, Amazon.com does not list a single book on the subject of "Combinatorial Statistics."

There are a couple of links to "combinatorial statistics" if you do a Google search, but again, this is more anecdotal than a definition of an area of mathematics.

Being the world's expert in something that doesn't exist is quite a feat!

By the way, I am the world's leading expert on the topology of the empty set, so-called emptorial topology. Some people think my expertise is pointless. No joking, my research areas as a professor were in algebraic number theory, computational number theory and elementary number theory. You'll find those discussed on Wikipedia if you're at all interested.
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December 9th, 2020 at 9:12:26 AM permalink
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I'm confused? Then why did you ask to see my research if you lack the skills to analyze it???



Because there are four or five people on this forum that are skilled in the trade. They will either tell you how great your method is, or they may be able to offer you some ideas on ways to improve it.
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December 9th, 2020 at 11:30:56 AM permalink
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Seriously, you aren't this message board's leading expert in combinatorial statistics...



Can you please answer why you believe that to be the case? Is it because I don't have the reputation as the Wizard does that I couldn't possibly be that knowledgeable in one particular field of study? Doesn't it make sense to just refrain from giving your opinion till you have the facts? T me it's obvious you (& plenty of other WoV members) are going to owe me a FAT apology.
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December 9th, 2020 at 11:37:33 AM permalink
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Quote: USpapergames

Ok, I really didn't want to post this. I wanted people to solve the 4 card hand ranking probabilities also :/


I decided to code up a few of these. 4-card hands.

Hand Number Frequency Cumm. Prob Cycle
--------------------------------------------------------------
Color_Quad 25 0.0006376% 0.0006376% 156849
Quad_Flush 100 0.0025502% 0.0025502% 39212
Suited_D2T 300 0.0076507% 0.0076507% 13071
Fools_Hand 3920800 99.9891639% 99.9891639% 1
-- 3921225 100.0000000% 100.0000000% 1


It is easy but tedious to code each hand rule. Each hand requires a few lines of new code. Remember that I don't claim that I am smart to be able to do this. My position all along has been that this is a fairly simple problem.



You just proved nothing!!!!!!!

Any mathematician can figure out the probabilities to the least likely hand rankings to the most likely hand rankings!!!! The only difficult probabilities are the hand rankings that are in the middle of the ranking list which is in between easy & difficult to obtain. That's because those rankings are filled with other hand rankings probabilities which you would need to sort out which hand rank trumps the others!

Believe me when I say you couldn't write a program to solve the 4 card probabilities if you had a month, & you couldn't do the 5 card probabilities if you had a year and the world's best computers. And yet I did it by hand in less time & I had to invent a method to do it!!!
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December 9th, 2020 at 11:39:36 AM permalink
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I'm down for it, seriously great idea!!! WoV athletes, who will accept the challenge?
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December 9th, 2020 at 11:50:10 AM permalink
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"Combinatorial Statistics" is not a formal area of mathematics, like "algebraic geometry" or "statistical mechanics." For example, there is no Wikipedia page on "combinatorial statistics".

If you read the wiki page on Combinatorics, you don't even see a single mention of "combinatorial statistics" as one of the identified sub-disciplines related to combinatorics. Nor do these two words appear adjacent to each other anywhere on the page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorics

2.1 Enumerative combinatorics
2.2 Analytic combinatorics
2.3 Partition theory
2.4 Graph theory
2.5 Design theory
2.6 Finite geometry
2.7 Order theory
2.8 Matroid theory
2.9 Extremal combinatorics
2.10 Probabilistic combinatorics
2.11 Algebraic combinatorics
2.12 Combinatorics on words
2.13 Geometric combinatorics
2.14 Topological combinatorics
2.15 Arithmetic combinatorics
2.16 Infinitary combinatorics

Likewise, Amazon.com does not list a single book on the subject of "Combinatorial Statistics."

There are a couple of links to "combinatorial statistics" if you do a Google search, but again, this is more anecdotal than a definition of an area of mathematics.

Being the world's expert in something that doesn't exist is quite a feat!

By the way, I am the world's leading expert on the topology of the empty set, so-called emptorial topology. Some people think my expertise is pointless. No joking, my research areas as a professor were in algebraic number theory, computational number theory and elementary number theory. You'll find those discussed on Wikipedia if you're at all interested.



Your right, my research almost creates a new branch of mathematics on its own, and I'm not joking! But in all actuality, this is just not the case, for combinatorial statistics is a merger of 2 branches of mathematics & its own sub-branch of mathematics. I believe that is the correct way to describe my life's work.

Btw Topology is a ridiculously hard field of study & I don't even remember what emptorial means from college :/ But if any of my experience has rubbed off on me it's been my experience trying to gain credibility for my research & I'd hate to be like others have been to me & simply discredit your claim without justification. So I want you to know I believe you & I hope you also gain the credibility you deserve.
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December 9th, 2020 at 11:51:08 AM permalink
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Because there are four or five people on this forum that are skilled in the trade. They will either tell you how great your method is, or they may be able to offer you some ideas on ways to improve it.



Or they steal my method & try and publish my work as their own! I'm it happens to college students from their professors all the time, what makes you think it won't happen to a stranger???
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December 9th, 2020 at 1:26:17 PM permalink
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Can you please answer why you believe that to be the case? Is it because I don't have the reputation as the Wizard does that I couldn't possibly be that knowledgeable in one particular field of study? Doesn't it make sense to just refrain from giving your opinion till you have the facts? T me it's obvious you (& plenty of other WoV members) are going to owe me a FAT apology.



I believe that you aren't this board's leading expert on combinatorics because you think this problem is hard. Many members here don't think so. I have every confidence that half a dozen of them could do this, and do it without much issue. If it's hard for you and easy for them, they're better than you.
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December 9th, 2020 at 1:27:24 PM permalink
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"Combinatorial Statistics" is not a formal area of mathematics, like "algebraic geometry" or "statistical mechanics." For example, there is no Wikipedia page on "combinatorial statistics".

If you read the wiki page on Combinatorics, you don't even see a single mention of "combinatorial statistics" as one of the identified sub-disciplines related to combinatorics. Nor do these two words appear adjacent to each other anywhere on the page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorics

2.1 Enumerative combinatorics
2.2 Analytic combinatorics
2.3 Partition theory
2.4 Graph theory
2.5 Design theory
2.6 Finite geometry
2.7 Order theory
2.8 Matroid theory
2.9 Extremal combinatorics
2.10 Probabilistic combinatorics
2.11 Algebraic combinatorics
2.12 Combinatorics on words
2.13 Geometric combinatorics
2.14 Topological combinatorics
2.15 Arithmetic combinatorics
2.16 Infinitary combinatorics

Likewise, Amazon.com does not list a single book on the subject of "Combinatorial Statistics."

There are a couple of links to "combinatorial statistics" if you do a Google search, but again, this is more anecdotal than a definition of an area of mathematics.

Being the world's expert in something that doesn't exist is quite a feat!

By the way, I am the world's leading expert on the topology of the empty set, so-called emptorial topology. Some people think my expertise is pointless. No joking, my research areas as a professor were in algebraic number theory, computational number theory and elementary number theory. You'll find those discussed on Wikipedia if you're at all interested.



I love that this is 95% F-off and 5% dad joke.
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December 9th, 2020 at 1:47:39 PM permalink
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I believe that you aren't this board's leading expert on combinatorics because you think this problem is hard. Many members here don't think so. I have every confidence that half a dozen of them could do this, and do it without much issue. If it's hard for you and easy for them, they're better than you.



So your saying they could do it & they choose not to? Don't you think if they could they would have done it by now and proved me wrong already? Are you aware Shackleford himself spent hours just trying to solve a sub-portion of this problem & got now where? I'd rather not post the evidence to this again but surely someone here knows this, right?
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December 9th, 2020 at 2:12:31 PM permalink
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So your saying they could do it & they choose not to? Don't you think if they could they would have done it by now and proved me wrong already? Are you aware Shackleford himself spent hours just trying to solve a sub-portion of this problem & got now where? I'd rather not post the evidence to this again but surely someone here knows this, right?



Yes. It isn't interesting and there is no benefit to them doing it. Why take the time? And I don't believe that Mike tried and struck out.
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December 9th, 2020 at 2:31:25 PM permalink
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Yes. It isn't interesting and here is no benefit to them doing it. Why take the time? And I don't believe that Mike tried and struck out.



Can you please remove yourself from this thread? Anyone who is going to call me a liar, I wish to never read another one of their comments for the rest of my life.
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December 9th, 2020 at 2:44:06 PM permalink
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Can you please remove yourself from this thread? Anyone who is going to call me a liar, I wish to never read another one of their comments for the rest of my life.

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December 9th, 2020 at 2:50:23 PM permalink
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Here ya go USPG... https://wizardofvegas.com/block/rdw4potus/



Thank you! Wow, that was fast ;)

Can he still comment in the thread? Nvm, looks like he can't which is definitely a thing for the thread ;)

It's sad because I thought we starting to become friends but now he is just backstabbing me.
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December 9th, 2020 at 2:57:20 PM permalink
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Thank you! Wow that was fast ;)

Can he still comment in the thread and make fun of me?



I can comment. I suspect that making fun of you is against the forum's rules. So are trolling and thumbtacking, both of which you're getting pretty close to.
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December 9th, 2020 at 4:02:51 PM permalink
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I can comment. I suspect that making fun of you is against the forum's rules. So are trolling and thumbtacking, both of which you're getting pretty close to.


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December 9th, 2020 at 4:13:42 PM permalink
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rdw4potus can still post on the thread. You won’t see those posts unless

someone quotes them.

Here ya go
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December 9th, 2020 at 4:32:48 PM permalink
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So your saying they could do it & they choose not to? Don't you think if they could they would have done it by now and proved me wrong already? Are you aware Shackleford himself spent hours just trying to solve a sub-portion of this problem & got now where? I'd rather not post the evidence to this again but surely someone here knows this, right?



So now we are you employees who have deadlines to provide deliverables to you? You are the one who said 4x5x5 is infinitely harder than 25x4. I wrote a bit of code before breakfast this morning that proved you are wrong. I easily handled four of your four-card hands with a 4x5x5 deck. including doublets, suited, colored. Now, you say that is worthless. You demand that I do the whole set of four-card hands, which you say "Believe me when I say you couldn't write a program to solve the 4 card probabilities if you had a month".

How can you even evaluate my capabilities? How can you prove difficulty? You should accept my telling you that it is straightforward but tedious. You have no domain experience and I have decades of experience. You are clueless in this domain. If I do code the rest of the cases before breakfast tomorrow, you will certainly make new demands.

The five card hands will be a trifle if I do the four card hands. I must be nuts to even respond to your baseless taunts.
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December 9th, 2020 at 4:41:15 PM permalink
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So now we are you employees who have deadlines to provide deliverables to you? You are the one who said 4x5x5 is infinitely harder than 25x4. I wrote a bit of code before breakfast this morning that proved you are wrong. I easily handled four of your four-card hands with a 4x5x5

deck. including doublets, suited, colored. Now, you say that is worthless. You demand that I do the whole set of four-card hands, which you say "Believe me when I say you couldn't write a program to solve the 4 card probabilities if you had a month".

How can you even evaluate my capabilities? How can you prove difficulty? You should accept my telling you that it is straightforward but tedious. You have no domain experience and I have decades of experience. You are clueless in this domain. If I do code the rest of the cases before breakfast tomorrow, you will certainly make new demands.

The five card hands will be a trifle if I do the four card hands. I must be nuts to even respond to your baseless taunts.



I believe you think it's easy but if you actually did the work you would have a difficult time matching my results. Please 🙏 do the work before you have an opinion because to me it sounds like you have thought of a solution of how to program these hand rankings but actually hasn't done the work to prove your correct. A good friend of mine Jim Thompson who worked for IBM as lead programmer for 35 years couldn't make a program that could evaluate the correct hand ranking, let alone some of the probabilities to the hand rankings.

If you could get your program to come up with the same answers as I did by hand then I would be impressed. Big seriously 5 card probabilities you have no chance at! Half of the hand rankings are 5 card hands!
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