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October 28th, 2011 at 12:50:08 PM permalink
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Isn't that what the Mormons claim too? About what time did the errabundo Jews arrive in North America, and how did they get there?



Errante.

You understand I do not correct you each and every time.
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October 28th, 2011 at 1:10:43 PM permalink
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You understand I do not correct you each and every time.



Entiendo
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October 28th, 2011 at 1:13:20 PM permalink
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Isn't that what the Mormons claim too? About what time did the errabundo Jews arrive in North America, and how did they get there?



I doubt that the Mexica wanted to be thought of as the lost tribe of Israel.


There is a long history of Jews in Charleston, South Carolina. The charter of the Carolina Colony, drawn up by John Locke in 1669, granted liberty of conscience to all settlers, expressly mentioning "Jews, heathens, and dissenters." It is probable that some Jews came originally, but the earliest record of a Jew in Charleston was 26 years later when one was a translator.

The original Jews were Sephardim, who had been thrown out of Spain in 1492 as part of the vision of the Catholic monarchs of wiping out Moslems and Jews and setting, and of the Anglicans by their descendants.

The Jews helped make Charleston the only urban place above 2500 people south of Virginia in the first census of 1790. A total of 16,359 people were in the city.

In The Jews of Nineteenth Century Charleston: Ethnicity in a Port City is recorded one of the first instances of a "Jewish Princess" . I saw a play about the impact on the old Jewish communities when the Ashkenazi immigration began to occur.

These are the diaspora countries with the highest percentage of Jewish population.
Gibraltar (24.0 per 1000 or 2.4%),
United States (20.1),
Canada (11.9),
France (8.8),
Uruguay (6.7),
Argentina (5.3),
Hungary (5.2), and
Australia (5.1).

There are also 80K-300K Jews in
Britain, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Brazil, and South Africa
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October 28th, 2011 at 1:25:42 PM permalink
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These are the diaspora countries with the highest percentage of Jewish population.

United States (20.1)



I find it hard to believe that the US is that high.
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October 28th, 2011 at 1:38:18 PM permalink
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I find it hard to believe that the US is that high.



Sorry, I was quoting a document about 10-15 years old. In the meantime the Jewish population has declined, and the US population has increased. A more accurate number would be closer to 17 in 1000 people, down from 20.1 in 1000.

I did say in the line above that these numbers were per 1000 people. There is no diaspora country after the holocaust where Jews constitute more than 2.5% of the population. There are not that many of God's chosen people.

That's why the numbers in the bible of Jews who left during the Exodus are considered to be outlandishly high. It is inconceivable that there were that many Jews in Egypt during the time of Moses.

According to Exodus 12:37-38 NIV, the Israelites numbered "about six hundred thousand men on foot, besides women and children," plus many non-Israelites and livestock. Numbers 1:46 gives a more precise total of 603,550. The 600,000, plus wives, children, the elderly, and the "mixed multitude" of non-Israelites would have numbered some 2 million people.
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October 28th, 2011 at 1:43:40 PM permalink
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I find it hard to believe that the US is that high.



Te debes tres oraciones en Español :)
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October 28th, 2011 at 2:04:32 PM permalink
First, I didn't notice the last time the numbers were per 1,000. I thought you were saying 20.1%. Totally my mistake, as your post was quite claro.

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Te debes tres oraciones en Español :)



Oy!

1. Quien escribe el libro de amor? = Who wrote the book of love?
2. Yo soy la morsa = I am the walrus.
3. Quiero ser por debajo la mar en un jardin de el pulpo en la sombra. = I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.
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October 28th, 2011 at 2:13:19 PM permalink
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Oy!



I thought I'd let you police the others, but who polices the police? :)

Quote:

1. Quien escribe el libro de amor? = Who wrote the book of love?



¿Quien escribiÓ...?

Quote:

3. Quiero ser por debajo la mar en un jardin de el pulpo en la sombra. = I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.



"Quero ESTAR bajo EL mar en EL jardín DEL pulpo..."
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October 28th, 2011 at 4:39:07 PM permalink
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Quiero ser por debajo la mar en un jardin de el pulpo en la sombra.
Quiero ESTAR bajo EL mar en EL jardín DEL pulpo..



estar - esta -> estacion
ser - es -> esencia

La palabra "sea" no es "el mar", "sea" es " modo presente subjuntivo" de "ser"

"no me sea" == "that I may not be"

Solo le pido a Dios -
Que el dolor no me sea indiferente
Que lo injusto no me sea indiferente
Que la guerra no me sea indiferente
Que el engano no me sea indiferente
Que el futuro no me sea indiferente
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October 28th, 2011 at 4:57:29 PM permalink
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estar - esta -> estacion
ser - es -> esencia

La palabra "sea" no es "el mar", "sea" es " modo presente subjuntivo" de "ser"

"no me sea" == "that I may not be"

Solo le pido a Dios -
Que el dolor no me sea indiferente
Que lo injusto no me sea indiferente
Que la guerra no me sea indiferente
Que el engano no me sea indiferente
Que el futuro no me sea indiferente



¿Qué?

As near as I can tell, you're saying the word "sea" does not refer to the sea. I know that. However, "I'd like to be under the sea" translates into Spanish as "Quisiera estar bajo el mar," regardless of how alike "sea" as in ocean and "sea" as in ser may look.
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