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March 8th, 2022 at 3:18:57 PM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

Like yesterday, I received nothing but solid green clues. Like yesterday, after my initial guess there were only two words left.

UNLIKE yesterday, this time I chose correctly.



Only SHEET and SWEET were possible after the first guess.




After three games, I definitely prefer MasterMind. Instead of being told that the S and the E the T were correct, it's just more fun for me to be told that three letters are correct... and for me to have to determine which three letters those are.


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March 8th, 2022 at 5:35:10 PM permalink
Can anyone suggest a good generic starting guess for nerdle?

What I am looking for is something with a multiplication and division sign plus as many digits as possible (preferably not a zero, which is rarely in the solution).
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March 8th, 2022 at 6:59:00 PM permalink
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Can anyone suggest a good generic starting guess for nerdle?

What I am looking for is something with a multiplication and division sign plus as many digits as possible (preferably not a zero, which is rarely in the solution).
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March 8th, 2022 at 11:06:15 PM permalink
About 2 to 3 weeks ago, a family member told me about Wordle.
After a few tries, I decided to search for " best opening wordle guesses" and found the links below:

link_1, link_2, link_3 , and link_4

Note: I have only looked carefully at "link_4"
Note 2: "link_3 , and link_4" are related you tube videos

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Update ( 1215 am, Pac Time):
Also, I try to do the puzzles without any "solver assistance", but when I get stuck (about 40% of the time) I use these ones, see links below:

link_5 , link_6

Note: I only recently found the site in "link_6", but I think it is the better/easier one so far.
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March 9th, 2022 at 12:13:25 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Quote: EdCollins

Like yesterday, I received nothing but solid green clues. Like yesterday, after my initial guess there were only two words left.

UNLIKE yesterday, this time I chose correctly.



Only SHEET and SWEET were possible after the first guess.




After three games, I definitely prefer MasterMind. Instead of being told that the S and the E the T were correct, it's just more fun for me to be told that three letters are correct... and for me to have to determine which three letters those are.


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Two turns -- sweet!

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I got that one in 3: crate > sleet > sweet

Note 1: Most of the time I put an s on the end of my 2nd guess when it is possible, but this time I started with an s and got lucky (though not as lucky as Ed).
Note 2: I haven't looked at the official 2000+ words that the answer can be, yet (so I don't know if the "s at the end for the 2nd guess" is a good strategy or not?).
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March 9th, 2022 at 12:14:09 AM permalink
Wordle 263 4/6

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I had a 50-50 choice after row 2... but again chose poorly.



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March 9th, 2022 at 12:28:53 AM permalink
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Wordle 263 4/6

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I had a 50-50 choice after row 2... but again chose poorly.




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I got it in three, but I used an online "solver/helper*** ", on the 2nd and 3rd attempts.

***: I don't think doing this is cheating, but I think it may be worth splitting the thread into "Wordle assisted" and "Wordle unassisted", if enough people post their Wordle results to this forum?
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March 9th, 2022 at 12:33:38 AM permalink
ksdjdj,

You said you haven't looked at the list of 2,309 Wordle words. Maybe you don't want to do so. However, if you're curious about whether an 'S' at the end of your second guess is a good strategy or not, click my spoiler button, which gives my opinion.

I noticed that four-letter words that end in S have all been removed from the list. For example, BALLS is not a valid Wordle answer, nor is BIKES. Because these words have been removed, there are just 36 valid Wordle answers that do end in S.

(abyss, amass, amiss, basis, bless, bliss, bonus, brass, chaos, chess, class, crass, cress, cross, dress, dross, ethos, fetus, ficus, floss, focus, glass, gloss, grass, gross, guess, humus, locus, lupus, minus, mucus, press, rebus, torus, truss, virus)

Compare that with 253 words that end in T, 364 words that end in Y, and 422 words that end in E.

So no, I don't necessarily think putting an S at the end of your second guess will gain you anything. I don't think it will necessarily lower your search space significantly, as you initially suspected it might. But, of course a lot depends upon what your first guess is and what's left.

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March 9th, 2022 at 1:33:57 AM permalink
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ksdjdj,

You said you haven't looked at the list of 2,309 Wordle words. Maybe you don't want to do so. However, if you're curious about whether an 'S' at the end of your second guess is a good strategy or not, click my spoiler button, which gives my opinion.

I noticed that four-letter words that end in S have all been removed from the list. For example, BALLS is not a valid Wordle answer, nor is BIKES. Because these words have been removed, there are just 36 valid Wordle answers that do end in S.

(abyss, amass, amiss, basis, bless, bliss, bonus, brass, chaos, chess, class, crass, cress, cross, dress, dross, ethos, fetus, ficus, floss, focus, glass, gloss, grass, gross, guess, humus, locus, lupus, minus, mucus, press, rebus, torus, truss, virus)

Compare that with 253 words that end in T, 364 words that end in Y, and 422 words that end in E.

So no, I don't necessarily think putting an S at the end of your second guess will gain you anything. I don't think it will necessarily lower your search space significantly, as you initially suspected it might. But, of course a lot depends upon what your first guess is and what's left.


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Very helpful, for the 2nd guess I will only put an s at the end on rare occasions now.
Also, I just found this link >>> https://gist.github.com/cfreshman/a7b776506c73284511034e63af1017ee <<< after searching "list of possible wordle words*** ".

***: I originally searched using "list of wordle words" but that didn't give me what I wanted (the first result was a link to the "current and future answers").
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March 9th, 2022 at 4:16:58 AM permalink
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I got it in three, but I used an online "solver/helper*** ", on the 2nd and 3rd attempts.

***: I don't think doing this is cheating...



a) I would classify using a word list or solver/helper as 'cheating'
b) Who cares if one cheats? it's a puzzle. Everyone has their own method. I don't "cheat", but I have given up a few times and not solved that day's puzzle

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