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April 26th, 2022 at 6:14:31 PM permalink

Wordle April 26 4 tonight kind of threw me for a bit

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April 26th, 2022 at 7:05:32 PM permalink

Regarding Smarty Pants...

When the user enters a puzzle number, and then clicks the red SUBMIT button, wouldn't it be advisable at that time for the system to clear out any prior guesses and feedback scores still on the screen?

I find myself doing this myself, which seems awkward. After I play a game, if I want to play again, I enter a new puzzle number and click SUBMIT... but then I find myself also taking the time to clear out the data on the screen from the prior game myself... since it just seems and confusing for those guesses and feedback to be there. The user shouldn't have to do that.

That's my only suggestion at this time. I've played half a dozen games and everything seems to be okay. I've tried to make it crash by entering letters in both uppercase and lowercase, by entering words with more than six letters, with numbers, with apostrophes, etc.

Oh, one more question. How much longer will we see "Solution Changed" in the Comment Section? I assume that comment is for us who have already solved a few of the puzzles from the past day or two. However, if a brand new user sees that comment, they probably won't know what it means.

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April 26th, 2022 at 9:31:08 PM permalink

Quote: EdCollins
When the user enters a puzzle number, and then clicks the red SUBMIT button, wouldn't it be advisable at that time for the system to clear out any prior guesses and feedback scores still on the screen?

Good suggestion, thank you. I just added code that when the user enters a game number, all fields except the game number get blanked out.

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Oh, one more question. How much longer will we see "Solution Changed" in the Comment Section? I assume that comment is for us who have already solved a few of the puzzles from the past day or two. However, if a brand new user sees that comment, they probably won't know what it means.
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I put it there to let the user know that clicking the "submit" button accomplished something. Kind of like how in Berlin if the player hits the crosswalk button, something happens, I think a light comes on that says something in German translating to "please wait." It feels good to know the system acknowledged that I'm standing there waiting, even if pressing the button may not reduce my waiting time.

In other news, games 1 to 5 are fresh words, not the same ones when the game was doing daily words. Here is my solution for SP game #1.

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April 26th, 2022 at 10:47:24 PM permalink

Good guess today

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April 27th, 2022 at 4:52:41 AM permalink

Three

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April 27th, 2022 at 5:00:43 AM permalink

Smarty Pants rookie. First puzzle solved in three.

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April 27th, 2022 at 6:21:09 AM permalink

Four

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April 27th, 2022 at 11:03:10 AM permalink

Wordle 312 4/6

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April 27th, 2022 at 12:03:55 PM permalink

Decent score, but took me a long time.

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April 27th, 2022 at 4:00:20 PM permalink

Wordle 313 4/6*

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🟨🟩🟨⬜⬜ YGYBB
🟨🟩⬜🟨⬜ YGBYB
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WordleBot
Skill 90/100
Luck 59/100

Note: According to WordleBot, there is only one "99-pt skill" starting word in "hard mode", so that is why I haven't indicated how many letters are correct for my first guess.

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Turn 1: stream / ---W--
Turn 2: buckle / -----W
Turn 3: winged / B-W-BW
Turn 4: wooden / Correct!

Turn 1: skater / B--W-W
Turn 2: strong / BWBB--
Turn 3: sprout / Correct!

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April 27th, 2022 at 4:43:37 PM permalink

Smarty Pants game #3 -- score = 5

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April 27th, 2022 at 4:47:58 PM permalink

Delete spoiler didn't take

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April 27th, 2022 at 4:51:52 PM permalink

5 April 27 little rough

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April 27th, 2022 at 8:24:12 PM permalink

Smarty Pants #4 -- Score = 6.

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April 28th, 2022 at 3:01:08 AM permalink

Since only 100 words are currently used as a solution to the puzzles, this chart isn't very useful... but I thought I'd put it together anyway. (If the 100 words were known, a chart of those letters from those words would be somewhat useful.)

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Quote: ksdjdj
Wordle 313 4/6*

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🟨🟩🟨⬜⬜ YGYBB
🟨🟩⬜🟨⬜ YGBYB
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WordleBot
Skill 90/100
Luck 59/100

Note: According to WordleBot, there is only one "99-pt skill" starting word in "hard mode", so that is why I haven't indicated how many letters are correct for my first guess.

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Turn 1: stream / ---W--
Turn 2: buckle / -----W
Turn 3: winged / B-W-BW
Turn 4: wooden / Correct!

Turn 1: skater / B--W-W
Turn 2: strong / BWBB--
Turn 3: sprout / Correct!

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But the picture you post does indicate how many letters you got right on your first guess. We can see the yellows and greens even if you don�t write the letters.

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April 28th, 2022 at 5:03:06 AM permalink

I wonder what the worst starting word could be. So, I tried one guess here. Took a shot at a bad second word too.

Wordle 313 X/6

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A Q, and double F, should make the rest of the puzzle harder I think. I tried busting out a bad second choice as well, to see what would happen. Slight misplay with SWEET, I knew there was no double E, but by then I just wanted out.

QUIFF
GROPE
ENACT
THESE
SWEET
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April 28th, 2022 at 5:12:49 AM permalink

Quote: EdCollins
Since only 100 words are currently used as a solution to the puzzles, this chart isn't very useful... but I thought I'd put it together anyway. (If the 100 words were known, a chart of those letters from those words would be somewhat useful.)
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That shouldn't matter about the 100 words. They were drawn from a pool of thousands of words, which I randomly shuffled and took the first 100 that the average person who know what it meant.

As to Wordle, got a 4 today.

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April 28th, 2022 at 8:54:26 AM permalink

Quote: Mosca
I wonder what the worst starting word could be...

The absolute worst starting word in Wordle will depend upon the criteria used to determine what is considered "worst," just like there is different criteria to determine what is the "best" starting Wordle word.

For example, if you just want to find a word which, on the average, lowers the number of possibilities left, ROATE ranks right up there near the top. (I haven't found a better word.) ROATE, on average, will leave just 60.1 words remaining after it is played. (From the staring number of 2,308 possible words.)

That number is even better than WordleBot's favorite word, CRANE, which, on average leaves 78.7 words remaining.

However, leaving the fewest words remaining isn't necessarily "best," as you know. (According to WordleBot, "On average, more and smaller groups means faster solving.") One also could take into account and consider the best word is the one that leaves the largest number of "groups" that remain, or the word that leaves the lowest average group size, or the word that leaves the fewest "largest group," or the word that gives the most Bits of Information. (See WordleBot's analysis for some of these terms and comparisons of its chosen word and yours, for any Wordle puzzle.)

That being said, for whatever criteria is used, these words probably rank somewhere near the top of the worst starting Wordle words: IMMIX, JUGUM, KIBBI, KUDZU, OXBOW, PZAZZ, QAJAQ, XYLYL, ZIMBI, ZIZIT, ZOPPO, ZUZIM. (Yes, all of these words are valid Wordle guesses.)

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April 28th, 2022 at 10:06:18 AM permalink

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I wonder what the worst starting word could be.

I get the worst is FUZZY (which was the name of my beloved childhood teddy bear). This uses the method of awarding two points for a match in position and one point for out of position.

Here are the top 40 worst starting words. Wasn't #9 the solution about six weeks ago?

Rank	Word	Points
1	fuzzy	1919
2	fizzy	2139
3	jumbo	2194
4	jiffy	2229
5	jazzy	2230
6	whiff	2269
7	dizzy	2277
8	jumpy	2283
9	nymph	2382
10	buxom	2400
11	humph	2433
12	fluff	2439
13	unzip	2465
14	puffy	2471
15	affix	2487
16	pygmy	2508
17	bluff	2527
18	pizza	2536
19	gumbo	2573
20	lymph	2577
21	quick	2594
22	vivid	2611
23	mummy	2626
24	gummy	2629
25	inbox	2636
26	chump	2647
27	buggy	2661
28	mucky	2663
29	vying	2690
30	dummy	2707
31	guppy	2710
32	skiff	2713
33	widow	2717
34	thumb	2719
35	wimpy	2734
36	plumb	2737
37	dumpy	2740
38	humus	2742
39	glyph	2745
40	gruff	2745

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April 28th, 2022 at 10:33:15 AM permalink

Quote: EdCollins

Since only 100 words are currently used as a solution to the puzzles, this chart isn't very useful... but I thought I'd put it together anyway. (If the 100 words were known, a chart of those letters from those words would be somewhat useful.)
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Here is my list of the best Smarty Pants starting words, assuming all words in the list are equally likely to be solutions.

Ranks	Word	Points
1	BANTER	7623
2	BAITER	7616
3	BAILER	7509
4	BASTER	7495
5	BANDER	7479
6	BOATER	7419
7	BALDER	7412
8	CARTED	7373
9	BAITED	7334
10	CANTER	7329
11	BARITE	7326
12	CARIES	7238
13	BAILED	7227
14	BASTED	7213
15	BARGED	7206
16	CASTER	7201
17	CARTEL	7192
18	BANGER	7162
19	BLARED	7152
20	BONIER	7147
21	BOATED	7137
22	BLADER	7131
23	ANTLER	7110
24	RAISED	7101
25	BARLEY	7093
26	BATHER	7060
27	CANTED	7047
28	BRACED	7031
29	BARKED	7026
30	BARFED	7003
31	BADGER	6994
32	BANKER	6982
33	BAREST	6978
34	BIASED	6961
35	BASHER	6953
36	ARISEN	6950
37	DANCER	6945
38	BORATE	6936
39	SACRED	6933
40	VARIED	6928

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April 28th, 2022 at 11:40:09 AM permalink

Wordle 313 4/6

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April 28th, 2022 at 2:17:38 PM permalink

I just made an improvement to Smarty Pants, where the solution is broken into letter tiles and colored appropriately.

So far, I only made the change for the first turn. Please have a look at let me know if you find any mistakes. Once I'm happy I did it properly, I'll update the other seven turns.

Thank you.

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April 28th, 2022 at 2:41:42 PM permalink

Quote: Wizard
I just made an improvement to Smarty Pants, where the solution is broken into letter tiles and colored appropriately.

So far, I only made the change for the first turn. Please have a look at let me know if you find any mistakes. Once I'm happy I did it properly, I'll update the other seven turns.

Thank you.

Wow, that looks great. Much more appealing and user-friendly.

I did not find any mistakes in the three games I played.

If it's possible to lighten that shade of green just a tad, that would be better. It's a little hard to see the black font text against that dark green background. However, if that green were just a shade or two lighter, that would help.

Also, If it's possible to center the individual feedback letters, within those boxes, that would look better in my opinion. (Or reduce the width of the box so it looks centered?)

Spoiler for Puzzle #43:

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April 28th, 2022 at 3:10:29 PM permalink

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Wow, that looks great. Much more appealing and user-friendly.

I did not find any mistakes in the three games I played.

If it's possible to lighten that shade of green just a tad, that would be better. It's a little hard to see the black font text against that dark green background. However, if that green were just a shade or two lighter, that would help.

Also, If it's possible to center the individual feedback letters, within those boxes, that would look better in my opinion. (Or reduce the width of the box so it looks centered?)
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Thank you for the suggestions. I just implemented them. Hopefully you like the new "lime" shade of green better.

Note to myself: chartreuse is another option. Speaking of which, I always confuse cerulean and chartreuse. Do women have that problem?

Updated turn 2 to the new format.

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April 28th, 2022 at 4:36:21 PM permalink

Smarty Pants is now completely redone in the new formal for all eight turns.

Here is my first game under the new format, with a score of 3.

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April 28th, 2022 at 5:41:06 PM permalink

Decided to swing for the fences and honor wizards teddy bear after my dismal 5 yesterday and almost no help from usual starting word. 2 today April 28 thanks Mike

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April 28th, 2022 at 7:22:00 PM permalink

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Decided to swing for the fences and honor wizards teddy bear after my dismal 5 yesterday and almost no help from usual starting word. 2 today April 28 thanks Mike

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Fuzzy thanks you. He still looks over me to this day, on a shelf in my house.

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April 28th, 2022 at 7:54:59 PM permalink

Smarty Pants #7 was a tough one. Took seven turns to see green.

I want to scream.

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April 28th, 2022 at 8:41:37 PM permalink

Wordle 314 3/6*

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Skill 88/100
Luck 81/100

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Turn 1: STREAM / ---YYY
Turn 2: CAMPED / -GY-YY
Turn 3: MADAME / Correct!

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April 29th, 2022 at 4:00:20 AM permalink

Wordle 314 3/6

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Wordlebot is now behind a paywall for me, on two different browsers, even after deleting cookies. NBD, just �internet annoying�.

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April 29th, 2022 at 2:28:59 PM permalink

Three for me today in Wordle. I'm mad at myself because of a bad second turn.

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April 29th, 2022 at 3:32:24 PM permalink

"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)

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April 29th, 2022 at 5:28:27 PM permalink

Slight variation on my usual starting word which helped..only 2 choices after guess 2. Got lucky. 3 today April 29

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April 29th, 2022 at 5:51:00 PM permalink

Wordle 314 3/6

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April 29th, 2022 at 6:13:40 PM permalink

Three on Friday
Wordle 314 3/6*

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STEAM
BLAST
TRASH

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April 29th, 2022 at 8:14:38 PM permalink

Wordle 314 2/6

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Used my usual starting word and . . .

roast
trash

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April 30th, 2022 at 12:48:08 AM permalink

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April 30th, 2022 at 4:38:35 AM permalink

Wordle 315 6/6

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Phew. That was a tough one for me.

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April 30th, 2022 at 5:54:57 AM permalink

Tough one today. Five.

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April 30th, 2022 at 6:35:35 AM permalink

Five for me as well.

I came up empty on back-to-back probing words.

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April 30th, 2022 at 7:20:45 AM permalink

Wordle 315 6/6

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Now I�m trying their starting word. I like using my random starting word better.

CRANE
ARDOR
STARK
HARPY
GARUM
LARVA

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April 30th, 2022 at 11:08:40 AM permalink

I'm proud to say that Smarty Pants now has the same feature as in Wordle where the alphabet appears at the bottom, color coded to show that status of each letter. Below is an example. Keep in mind it's impossible to complete a game with any yellow in the alphabet (right?).

Please try it out and let me know if you find any mistakes. There is separate code for all eight turns, so something may work correctly for one turn, but not another.

Do you think I should arrange the alphabet in keyboard order, like Wordle does?

Thank you.

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April 30th, 2022 at 11:09:05 AM permalink

Today is a good example of how Wordle handles a double letter.

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April 30th, 2022 at 3:53:00 PM permalink

Lucked in to a 3 today April 30 tricky double letter

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April 30th, 2022 at 4:52:26 PM permalink

Wordle 315 4/6

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April 30th, 2022 at 4:53:49 PM permalink

P.S. you guys shouldn�t be giving off clues after you�ve solved the word of the day. Good thing I don�t read this first. But you�re saying too much.

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April 30th, 2022 at 5:03:01 PM permalink

Quote: Wizard
Do you think I should arrange the alphabet in keyboard order, like Wordle does?

If you were to put it to a vote, then I would probably vote Yes. My reason is, it's not often you see the alphabet with the letters A-M on one row and then the letters N-Z below it. These days, for many of us of course, it's much more common to see the alphabet displayed as it looks on a computer keyboard.

However, I got used to it after just one game. It won't be problem at all for anyone to immediately find the letter they are looking for, no matter how it's displayed.

Q W E R T Y U I O P
. A S D F G H J K L
.. Z X C V B N M

vs.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M
N O P Q R S T U V W Z X Y

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April 30th, 2022 at 5:12:16 PM permalink

If you DO change the format to resemble a QWERTY keyboard, you will have to see if you can slant the second and the then the third row a bit... so the A isn't directly underneath the Q... and the Z isn't directly under the A, for example.

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